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I've started eating off my food/grocery preps exclusively starting today.     (preppers)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.3 years ago (+7/-0)
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Two years ago, my groceries cost about, eh, $150 to $175 every 4 to 6 weeks, depending on what I ate, how busy I was, etc.

Today, for 3 to 4 weeks, my grocery bill is anywhere from $300 to $400. This does not include pet food and meat for the pets (I have a puppy and a cat and both get meat and high quality food daily).

Fuck. That.

I have enough groceries to last me a year, give or take, and have been building my stock for the last 4 years with the help of my garden (at 1600 sq. feet). I originally stocked up in case of unemployment and topped that up in the event of a collapse. I'm firmly of the opinion that we're now watching a global collapse in slow motion and that in a year I will have far more pressing concerns than whether or not I should get more groceries.

So, after I came back from visiting family over Christmas, I ordered my final batch of groceries, topping everything up and stocking up pet supplies like a motherfucker. Close to $600. Two years ago, it might have hit $400 and that was only if I added some expensive "luxury" items.

By the way, nearly every store where I live is out of canned cat food of any quality and it's starting to be completely out of stock on chewy.com as well. Sure, they have stock but it's easier to find "out of stock" than "in stock." At least this past week anyway.

Being the time efficient moron that I am, I have my groceries delivered. The first shopper who went for just cat food said they were out. This was Costco. She went asking around and the replies were "We've been waiting and waiting but it's still sitting out in the middle of the ocean!" Cue Biden "I did that" sticker.

If you've been thinking of stocking up your pantry, it's not too late but it will now cost you dearly.

Edit: I've also gone ahead and ordered a few expensive things I've been putting off including a replacement phone (the one I'm using is 6 years old and starting to have hardware problems).
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One month passive solar heater update     (pic8.co)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.4 years ago (+52/-0)
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https://pic8.co/sh/MWFUJh.png


Link goes to this month's power bill.

I added black corrugated pipe (plastic) over the clear vinyl air hoses giving me what seems to be a 2 to 5 degree increase in the amount of warmth coming out (temp on hand/skin estimate - it is warmer but I didn't measure it). Further, corrugated pipe is stiffer so this straightens out the pipe layout so it's not snaking all over the place (no ups and downs in a passive system which means smoother air flow overall). The insulation effect of the pipe combined with the black heating effect in sunlight means that I'm not spending heat trying to heat the pipes (and perhaps getting some kind of help from the corrugated pipe as well). I'm still not getting passive air movement without the solar panels/CPU fans but it hardly matters since if there's not enough sun to drive the panels and fans, there's usually not enough sun to make as much of a difference in heat generation. I only half-assed the installation since I didn't really want to make a full-on production of mounting the pipes so if I did it right, I might get another 1 to 2 degree increase in temperature (the ends are lose and not sealed on the corrugated pipe). Further, expansion and contraction from heat and cold cycles has cracked the acrylic in most of the mounting points leading to undesired heat transfer in unhelpful ways. I suspect I should have drilled the mounting holes larger to account for expansion. For now, I just covered the cracks with electrical tape and will replace the acrylic next spring when I remove the unit from the window. When I do this, I will replace the acrylic with either a thicker piece or a double pane of the same current thickness (not sure yet which).

I also added foam weatherstripping along the mounting bracket and lined the inside with two layers of cardboard to help insulate the weakest part of this and prevent cold from leaking in.

With all the changes, I can now walk up to the "vent" and stick my hand in night or day and it is room temperature instead of being colder and somewhere between inside and outside temps.

Regarding power:

It's not been warm enough to use the AC in either month and average temperature is only 6 degrees higher in December (huh??).

Power usage is 21% of last month. That's a significant amount of change and not representative of an average increase of 6 degrees between the two months. Total amount for power usage is $27.05. For reference, the main part of my house is heated with natural gas (forced air electric fan) and usage has gone from $10.70 (just the cost to keep the gas on) to $47.35. The amount billed this year is barely more than last year but there's already been a rate hike since last year and with current economic predictions, there will be more soon. So what we're seeing is a massive decrease in electrical usage with an expected corresponding drop in the usage of natural gas even if the amount paid for natural gas is higher.

With the addition of the corrugated pipe, I've been able to keep my heat set between 60 and 64 instead of 64 to 66 without (and 70 to 72 without the passive heater at all). In fact, I am now keeping it off most of the day.
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I made a passive solar heater using aluminum cans. The results are better than I expected.     (preppers)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.5 years ago (+39/-0)
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This is the heater

This is the general way to make one (Not my video) though I'll leave out for now largely useless details like whether or not to use glass or an acrylic pane ($76 for the size I needed but the price drops rapidly as you get smaller) and so on.

Mine has a little bit more and a bit more attention to detail. For example, silicone caulk and metal tape, reflective insulation board, two 12 volt solar panels to panel 2 12 volt CPU fans to push air a little more. $20 per panel, $12 for 4 fans though I only used two ($6 total).

Total cost was definitely less than $200 since I had most of the parts lying around anyway but I don't have a solid price on how much I spent since it's been a "back project" I piddled with for the last 4, maybe 5 years. This spring I kind of kicked it into higher gear - call it a gut instinct plust tired of it taking up so much space in the workshop - and now we're looking at a much higher cost for natural gas (at least) this winter which is what heats the main part of my house.

Using an extremely scientific and not-prone-to-errors meat thermometer, the temperature air I get out of it is between 150 and 160 degrees. The fans kicked on and provide a bit more push on the air than I initially expected and this doesn't seem to lower the temperatures any since it's still outputting about the same heat as smaller units you see people showing you how to make. The benefit I hope for with a larger unit is to still put out more heat in colder weather with less sunlight than smaller units can handle because I'm using this to heat living space and not a greenhouse or workshop.

The solar panels aren't as sensitive to light as I'd really like but I still get about 6 hours of push out of them and by the time the light is dim or not direct enough to power them, it's not really heating the cans inside either so that's fine. The fans kick on around 10 AM and cut off around 4.

I've had it up three days by this point and the day/night temps finally got to a point where I thought I could get you some good numbers. The part of the house it's heating is the first floor, somewhere around maybe 1500 square feet (seven rooms total). The house is "L" shaped so one part of the house (study, living room, dining room) benefit more than the rest (kicthen, foyer, bathroom, 2 bedrooms) but the difference between the two parts stays at just 1 degree.

This morning, at 7 am, it was 27 outside and the heater had already kicked on for the morning schedule to heat the house to 68. I turned off the heater and did periodic temp readings throughout the day.

7 AM -> 27 outside, 68 inside

9 AM -> 36/66

10 AM -> no reading but solar kicks on and the heater is still off.

11 AM -> 44/66

12 PM -> 48/66

2 PM -> 52/65

5 PM -> 51/66

It would seem that at least for early winter, late spring, this heater is going to be very useful for holding the house temperature high enough that I don't need to use the house heater. This does not indicate that it will be as useful when temperatures are sustained in the 30s or lower though I suspect that as long as I have enough sunlight that it will cut into how much I need to use the heater.

I plan to insulate the output hoses with corrugated plastic pipes, maybe wrap it in some thin insulation as I do this though I'm not sure about that part. It's not permanently mounted to the house and the hoses go to a window frame insert for a portable AC unit which is basically thin but stout plastic and that is a source of heat loss that I could stand to insulate.

In any case, the heater allowed me to go all day without using the house heater. With natural gas and other heating fuel costs predicted to hit sky high prices this winter, I should be cutting a lot off of my heating cost.

The bastard might be ugly and people driving by might wonder "WTF IS that??" but it works.





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Homemade electrolyzer     (www.youtube.com)
submitted by Her0n to preppers 3.5 years ago (+1/-0)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d85OX6yEwE0

Use saltwater instead of fresh to get chlorine gas.
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Bushfire bunkers save lives     (www.abc.net.au)
submitted by paul_neri to preppers 3.5 years ago (+1/-2)
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Update on the egg experiment     (preppers)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.5 years ago (+11/-1)
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It turns out that 7 out of 18 eggs were fine and were, oddly, all in the same part of the carton which randomly happened to be where I started pulling eggs from. Either mineral oil application was fine on those but not the others, it was a storage problem, or the 11 remaining had imperceptible cracks that allowed mineral oil to seep in. The ones that weren't fine were VERY obviously not fine (either runny like water or red/brown) while the others were pretty much like I'd bought them yesterday. Out of curiosity, I cooked one of the runny ones up (scrambled) and it appeared to cook just fine (scrambled like a good egg, smelled fine from start to finish) but I didn't trust it to eat it. Since it's sealed (naturally), I'm guessing we don't need to worry about salmonella or botulism but just that it's.... bad. They all smelled fine though so I have absolutely no fucking clue unless it was mineral oil just fucking them up through cracks.

Now to be fair, I read a few sources on how to do that with the mineral oil and they all said "Don't do it more than a year." So... now we know!

I would say that if you want to try that, try it for a couple months at a time, increasing until you find a limit instead of packing away dozens and then finding out that maybe half of them survived a year later and absolutely make sure that they don't have shit cracks you can't see. I have another 36 in the second fridge that I'll pull into grocery rotation in maybe 6 months and update you.
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Some of this food shortage stuff is becoming a lot more realistic (and immediate) then your average prepper larping.      (invidious.snopyta.org)
submitted by 3Whuurs to preppers 3.5 years ago (+9/-0)
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I've been running a two year experiment with eggs and I'm not sick or dying.     (preppers)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.5 years ago (+10/-0)
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http://prepared-housewives.com/preserve-eggs-with-mineral-oil/

So I did that. Coated eggs with mineral oil and stuck those bastards in my fridge for two years. The eggs are good and safe and I'm eating them now.

Ladies, don't do this, have a guy do it for you. Mineral oil will fuck with your estrogen. Or at least wear rubber gloves.
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Thought I'd share a few pics of some (only some) of my preps original content     (preppers)
submitted by totes_magotes to preppers 3.5 years ago (+34/-0)
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Today, I'm focusing on the food part. Later, I'll post different preps. My hope is that we can discuss certain preps, why, and whatnot.

So... first up, my grocery store.

https://pic8.co/sh/v1r47Y.png

Carts are $79 to $120 depending on what model you get. Stocking it up was hella expensive but took place over the span of 2.5 years by buying two of everything I needed at any time and then buying extra of things I didn't normally stock. I have no idea how much I've spent on these groceries but I'd estimate maybe ... $1000? More? In any case, I have food enough to last me a year easily but I'm planning that in a bug-in scenario, I'll have a few people helping watch my back so I need to feed them too. Which means two more people drags that down to about 4 months. Also great if unemployment hits.

From left to right, we have:

1. Spices, condiments, juices, drinks, coffee, carton milk, gatorade, soda. Comfort foods go a long way in the mental department when things go to shit.

2. Canned food. Soup, veggies, pork and beans, and so on.

3. Baking and starches. Mashed potatoes, ramen, flour, sugar, pasta, and a few jars of freeze dried veggies, canned meat also.

4. Freeze dried goods and water. I have a freeze dryer. Things here range from freeze dried meat, shelf stable meat, freeze dried pizza, freeze dried fruit and veggies. Freeze dried ice cream and cookie dough are here too.

In the background and the next photo:

https://pic8.co/sh/RQsfzn.png

The battery for my solar backup. This will power most of the house for just shy of three days assuming it's dark and deeply overcast (not generating power). The can of soup is for size reference.

On to (some of) the frozen stuff...

https://pic8.co/sh/L8OCNg.png

Inventory (not shown) is on the freezer door

This is one of three units I have. This one is a freezer, the other two are refrigerators. This one is mostly meat, milk, bread with a few other tidbits. That top shelf there is almost exclusively steaks and hotdogs.

The second shelf is various other meats including pork and chicken.

The next shelf down is milk (4 gallons), chicken that I fucked up and bought twice as much as I thought I was (for a total of 20 pounds of frozen chicken), tomato juice from the garden, more meat.

Bottom, behind the grate: breads. Bagels, bread, english muffins, and so on.

Door: Meat, tomato sauce and home made spaghetti sauce, pork, cheese, read-to-eat biscuits, stocks and broths.

The next photo is a pic of the water I have stockpiled just for the toilet should the mains go down: https://pic8.co/sh/wm2vY1.png

You don't store drinkable water in milk jugs.

And finally, puppy tax: https://pic8.co/sh/sYE1Ua.png

She's a West German Shepherd and growing like a weed at 5 months old. I'm slowly introducing her to schutzhund training. In short, protection and guard work and many police and military dogs are not only West German Shepherds but also go through the same training. She likes long walks, sticks, her tennis ball, and is obsessed with feet. Sorry fellas, she's mine so go find your own lady. I've had to teach her to bark, bite. She picks up on most things I teach her in about 5 minutes (along with hand signals) but requires a lot of reinforcement on some of them. She's still too bitey and hyper to learn "down" but sit and "paw" are second nature to her now. Also gasp and "what's that" will get her barking. I'm training her "hide and seek" and when she finds me, she has to bark before she gets praise. This not only exercises her mind but teaches her to observe hiding places and alert me if people are present and staying still.

Edit: Fucking catbox. Updated photos
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40 days on a tin-bean diet     (www.youtube.com)
submitted by paul_neri to preppers 3.5 years ago (+2/-4)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYsTlfhDSDY

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2 hours ago (+0/-0)

Yes everyone smirks when I say I live on a diet of chilli beans (1 tin a day) but flattus doesn't seem to be an issue for me, at least. [raving about myself] People have been incredulous that I seem happy eating a tin of beans a day but my body seems to have adjusted to them and I get anxious if I go without that tin of beans.
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MaryXmas 1 point 24 minutes ago (+1/-0)

Once you eat them on a regular basis, you gut biome knows how to process them. If you never eat beans, yes you might explode like a balloon.
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Found a great source.      (www.mredepot.com)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+3/-0)
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A few items worth considering     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+4/-0)
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Someone referenced large black garbage bags recently. I was thinking also, all of those plastic grocery bags, the good ones that you can reuse. Fold them up neatly and stuff them in a box. Also, zip lock bags and aluminum foil. Things you wouldn’t be able to step out to get if shit gets weird.
What other household things do we take for granted?
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Stocking up on nuts     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+5/-0)
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Buying different nuts, peanuts, mixed, whatever. Plan is to dump them in to food saver bags with desiccant and stuff them into buckets. You can damn near live off of nuts. I see it as a good reserve.
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Consider stocking up on things you don’t need, that someone else might     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+18/-1)
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I’m mostly thinking ammo here. Besides all your 9 and 223, why not have something you can trade with? Say, some .380, or some .32. Maybe some .44.

Just a thought.
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Anyone here consider storing booze?     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+17/-0)
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Solely as trading fodder. I have started doing so, and only buying shit I would never get into. Who knows, a handle of cheap whiskey could buy a few days worth of food, medicine or ammo. My investment is $12.99 going in, and it keeps, forever.
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A good spot welding kit for a smart kid that you like... Or a dumb kid that you hate.     (www.youtube.com)
submitted by Master_Foo to preppers 3.6 years ago (+-2/-1)
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Question: what do you know about storing seeds? Are store bought seeds, like from The local hardware store any good to keep? And if so, how should I keep them? I have room to grow if needed, and acces to water.     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+8/-0)
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Storing beans     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+8/-0)
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I just ordered some beans, three types, black, pinto and kidney, dried of course. They are coming in bulk and I will vacuum seal 2lb bags with desiccant packets and seal them in buckets. Should hold for years.
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Canning     (preppers)
submitted by 1Icemonkey to preppers 3.6 years ago (+7/-0)
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For the short term, I have begun to can. I’ve started with beef pot roast, and will soon do some carnitas, (pork roast, or, “little meats”)

Just for the protein factor, I only care to do meat stuffs for now. I’m not so sure about the effort/reward factor on veggies yet. Grains I figure I have a hold on.

The main idea for the pot roast stuff is the ability to have a quick meal after a long day. Also, some for reserve.
Any thoughts?
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How much instant coffee per person per year if I drink 1 cup a day?     (preppers)
submitted by Yargiyankooli to preppers 3.6 years ago (+2/-1)
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I do not drink instant coffee usually. What is the right amount to store for a year per person who drinks one cup a day?

Any recommendations on brands or flavor?
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bought my first container of bottled water ever [Taiwan is preparing for an invasion]     (www.abc.net.au)
submitted by paul_neri to preppers 3.6 years ago (+1/-5)
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/taiwan-foreign-minister-warn-war-china-global-geopolitical-order/100511960

and every time I go to the supermarket I plan to get another 10 litre container until I have a little supply for the start of World War 3 which is imminent. The idea is that when China knocks out all the electronic components that keep the water flowing I'll have enough water until I rig something up to catch rainwater. But the young couple next door worry me. They have a few kids and parents with kids will kill to ensure their brood survives so they'll probably see me and the missus as expendable and take our water by force! I'd share my water with them if they needed it to stay alive but I suspect they'll do us in. I hope they move before war breaks out.
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Celebrity Preppers     (m.youtube.com)
submitted by VitaminSieg to preppers 3.6 years ago (+4/-0)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A1OcM87qEBs

My 1st thought was the appropriate response to the fear porn aspect of this. My 2nd thought was that these shitty people aren't aware of the cyclical micronova, the high current z pinch, the unlocking of the crust, the 90 degree tilt of the earth, the continental wave, etc. They're building their bunkers because they're iNdiVidUaLs without a tribe and nation; and the rest of us who are a part of a tribe and nation will come take their shit following the disaster. Kim Kardashian and George Clooney have no choice but to hide, from us, in a bunker. (Bezos & Musk have their tunnels for other reasons, namely because they're pedos trafficking children for frazzledrip and adrenochrome. We shall roam the earth freely as they cower in the depths.
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Old but gold: LDS Prep manual (volume 8) from 2012 [PDF warning]     (files.catbox.moe)
submitted by NeedleStack to preppers 3.6 years ago (+18/-0)
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https://files.catbox.moe/hwx0fc.pdf

This booklet doesn't just tell you how to store food and water and how to set up emergency sanitation.

It also goes into psychological (and spiritual) problems that come up during hard times.

A couple of excerpts:

"This is an example of Normalcy Bias, a survival mechanism our brains are equipped with that can place us in grave danger when we’re faced with something traumatic. Sim- ply put, it causes our brains to insist that all is okay. Every- thing will return to normal. For most of us who have never faced true peril, Normalcy Bias tells us that nothing bad will ever happen. “This is America!,” some people insist when I tell them about the possibility of a deeper Depression or hyperinflation. Incredibly, the most obvious warning signs are ignored."

and

"How long would you survive if you could never buy groceries again? Now consider how much worse that scenario would be if everyone you know was faced with the same question. It may have more relevance than you think. The food distribution system in industrialized nations has a complexity which baffles the mind. Thousands of suppliers coordinate with thousands of distributors to send food to millions of retailers for billions of consumers. But is there enough redundancy in the system to ensure the contin- ued viability of commercially delivered food to your table? What if that incredibly complex system bottlenecked or crashed? Would you literally starve to death?

It has been estimated that the average grocery store has less than a one week supply of food. We have all seen shelves stripped bare following hurricanes or other natural disasters. There is rarely starvation in those settings because aide pours in from unaffected surrounding areas. But what if the shortages were on a regional or national level?"

and

"Level 5: Can Survive Indefinitely from their Home during an multi-year SHTF or TEOTWAWKI (“The end of the world as we know it”) situation

Has a fully functioning large garden or small farm for food production
Is able to can and store the results of food harvest for the coming year
Is able to harvest seeds for next year’s planting
Is able to raise multiple generations of farm animals (cattle, sheep, horses)
Has horses for local and distance travel
Has enough ammo to last a generation (10,000+ rounds per weapon)
Has spares of each weapon and lots of extra magazines Able to generate their own fuel (bio-diesel, alcohol) Likely has fully functional solar power bank with deep storage batteries
Has natural on-site water sources for farm and home
Has home-based business to generate income
Is able to build new building and make any necessary repairs to existing buildings
Is able to provide excess food for charity
Has a secondary residency (such as mountain cabin) for full bug-out
Is prepared for minor surgery and child birth at home Has stores of gold and silver for barter
Is able to produce their own clothing (from raw wool or raw cotton with spinning wheel and small loom)"
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Bug people? Hive mind has advantages over individualism sometimes     (files.catbox.moe)
submitted by Cunt to preppers 3.7 years ago (+33/-1)
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Wasps attacking hive     (preppers)
submitted by 2017Fallout to preppers 3.7 years ago (+5/-0)
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Anyone got any advice on stopping wasps attacking bee hives?