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Car brands lost buyers due to junk redesign disasters     (cars)
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The sudden shift to what many perceive as ugly, disjointed car designs could, in some views, be linked to the Frankfurt School’s cultural theories, which some critics argue promote a nihilistic, almost Satanist ideology that rejects beauty, intelligence, and perfection in art and design.

This school of thought, associated with thinkers like Theodor Adorno and Herbert Marcuse, is said by some to deconstruct traditional aesthetics in favor of chaotic, subversive forms, potentially influencing modern corporate design to prioritize shock value or anti-traditionalism over timeless elegance.

While no direct evidence ties the Frankfurt School to automotive design, some fans on X speculate that such cultural ideologies could indirectly shape trends, leading brands to abandon intelligent, perfected designs for polarizing, less coherent ones, as seen in cases like BMW’s massive grilles.

Car Brands That Lost Buyers Due to Redesign Disasters

Below is a list of car brands that faced significant buyer backlash or sales drops due to drastic, poorly received design changes, with specific models and reasons for the loss:

BMW:

Redesign Disaster: Shift to oversized kidney grilles, split headlights, and complex designs (e.g., 4 Series 2020, 7 Series 2022, XM SUV 2022), replacing the sleek E46 3 Series/E39 5 Series (1990s–2000s).

Impact: Alienated enthusiasts who loved BMW’s elegant, driver-focused look. X posts call the 4 Series grille “beaver teeth” and the M2 “a Roblox character.” No major global sales drop (~2.5M units in 2024), but purists in North America/Europe switched to Audi or Porsche.

Why It Sucked: Chased trends (e.g., bold grilles for China, Neue Klasse EV aesthetics) over loyalist preferences, seen as a betrayal of BMW’s “Ultimate Driving Machine” identity.

Jaguar:

Redesign Disaster: 2024 rebrand with a minimalist logo, no “growler” badge, and the Type 00 EV concept, ditching Jaguar’s classic feline styling (e.g., XJ, XF).

Impact: Sales crashed 98% in some markets (e.g., 49 cars in Q3 2024 vs. ~125,000 in 2020). X posts, including Elon Musk’s, slammed the “soulless” design. Buyers fled to Mercedes or Tesla.

Why It Sucked: Erased Jaguar’s luxury heritage for a generic EV look, alienating its core audience.

Ford (Edsel):

Redesign Disaster: Launched in 1957 with a “horse-collar” grille and odd styling, meant to be bold but seen as tacky.

Impact: Sold only 118,000 units over three years, costing $2.9B (2017 dollars). Discontinued in 1959 as buyers rejected the ugly design.

Why It Sucked: The grille and bloated look didn’t match mid-price car expectations, turning off Ford/Chevy buyers.

Pontiac:

Redesign Disaster: Shifted from sporty designs (e.g., GTO, Firebird) to generic models like the Aztek (2001), with clunky, mismatched proportions.

Impact: Aztek sold ~120,000 units over five years; Pontiac’s image tanked. GM axed it in 2009 as buyers chose Honda or Toyota.

Why It Sucked: The “hideous” Aztek (per X/reviews) killed Pontiac’s performance legacy.

Chrysler (Plymouth):

Redesign Disaster: 1990s–2000s shift to rebadged Dodge/Chrysler models (e.g., Neon), with bland styling vs. earlier retro designs.

Impact: Sales collapsed; Chrysler killed Plymouth in 2001. Buyers picked Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic.

Why It Sucked: Generic designs erased Plymouth’s affordable, distinctive identity.

Oldsmobile:

Redesign Disaster: Moved from “Rocket V8” designs to rebadged, soft-styled GM models (e.g., Alero, Aurora, 1990s–2000s).

Impact: Sales fell to ~150,000 units by 2003; GM ended Oldsmobile in 2004. Buyers chose Lexus or Acura.

Why It Sucked: Generic designs lost Oldsmobile’s sporty edge.

Mercury:

Redesign Disaster: 2000s models (e.g., Grand Marquis, Cougar) were rebadged Fords with minimal styling changes, losing mid-luxury appeal.

Impact: Sales dropped to 93,000 units in 2010 (1% market share); Ford axed Mercury in 2011. Buyers chose Ford or Lincoln.

Why It Sucked: Lack of unique design made Mercury irrelevant.

Toyota (Scion):

Redesign Disaster: Quirky designs (e.g., xB, tC, 2003–2010) became mainstream Toyota-like (e.g., second-gen xB, 2011; FR-S, 2012).

Impact: Sales fell to ~45,000 units by 2015; Toyota killed Scion in 2016. Buyers went to Subaru or Mazda.

Why It Sucked: Generic redesigns killed Scion’s youthful vibe.

Mitsubishi:

Redesign Disaster: Eclipse Cross (2017) turned the sporty Eclipse coupe into a generic, bulbous crossover.

Impact: Sales lagged (~20,000 units/year in the US vs. 70,000 for the old Eclipse). X posts called it “a disgrace.” Fans chose Honda or Subaru.

Why It Sucked: Betrayed the Eclipse’s sporty legacy for a dull SUV.

Citroën:

Redesign Disaster: 2000s shift from quirky designs (e.g., DS, 2CV) to conventional PSA models (e.g., C4, C5).

Impact: Market share dropped below 5% in Europe by 2010. Buyers chose VW or Renault.

Why It Sucked: Lost eccentric design DNA, becoming generic.

Lexus:

Redesign Disaster: The “spindle grille” introduced in 2012 (e.g., ES, RX) was polarizing, with aggressive, oversized lines replacing smoother designs.

Impact: While Lexus sales grew overall, specific models like the ES saw slower growth in some markets; X posts called the grille “overdone.” Some buyers opted for Mercedes or Audi.

Why It Sucked: The bold grille alienated fans of Lexus’s refined, understated look.

Audi:

Redesign Disaster: Early 2000s models like the A6 (C5, 2004) adopted softer, less distinctive styling compared to the sharp B5 era, and later models (e.g., Q5 2020) felt overly generic.

Impact: Limited sales dips in Europe; fans on X criticized Audi for “losing its edge.” Some switched to BMW or Mercedes.

Why It Sucked: Safe, homogenized designs diluted Audi’s sleek, progressive image.

Why These Redesigns Were Disastrous

Lost Identity: BMW, Jaguar, and Mitsubishi abandoned iconic aesthetics (e.g., BMW’s shark-nose, Jaguar’s feline grace) for trend-chasing or generic looks.

Misread Market: Edsel, Pontiac Aztek, and Scion delivered tacky or bland designs that missed consumer desires.

Badge Engineering: Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and Mercury used rebadged, uninspired designs, losing distinctiveness.

Trend Over Heritage: BMW, Jaguar, and Lexus chased global/EV trends, ignoring loyalists who loved classic designs.
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Top Attorney Testifies: Hospitals Were 'Paid' to Kill Covid Patients     (rumble.com)
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https://rumble.com/v6uomfl-top-attorney-testifies-hospitals-were-paid-to-kill-covid-patients.html

i suspected this since the whole bs started as soon as the govt began to pay hospitals per convid cases i knew then that this would happen. these ppl, administrators, nurses and rest reserve to be in jail all those ppl that participated in this
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intelligence had confirmed that within days Iran would have produced enough fissile material for multiple bombs.     (www.msn.com)
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MN Senator and State Rep. Murdered by Assassin Dressed Like A Cop     (poa.st)
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https://poa.st/objects/b556f065-09b7-4441-b94a-5dc0d853a2be

The conspiracy theories are gonna flood in.
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MAGA Warns of 'Jihadi Sleeper Cells' in US After Israel Strikes Iran     (OccidentalEnclave)
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Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman killed, State Sen. John Hoffman in grave condition in 'targeted political violence'     (abcnews.go.com)
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Which one of you goats pulled this off? All victims were jewish democrats.
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Minnesota Political Assassin - Leftist Vance Luther Boelter was appointed Governors Workforce Development Board by "Tampon" Tim Walz in 2019. - (Jewdar check in progress)     (x.com)
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There's our boy looking out for the American people!      (www.thegatewaypundit.com)
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Top Doctor Blows Whistle: Hospitals Boosted 'Covid Deaths' by Euthanizing Patients     (rumble.com)
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BREAKING VIDEOS: Bricks Delivered to Protest Zones in Chicago Before “No King” Rally – Chaos Incoming?     (www.usasupreme.com)
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https://www.usasupreme.com/breaking-videos-bricks-delivered-to-protest-zones-in-chicago-before-no-king-rally-chaos-incoming/

Nah... Like the News said, It's just our Imagination

The question is, who dropped them off….
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I checked up on some friends. The most interesting and beautiful people I've known are mostly lonely. The most diabolical duplicitous people I know are in a "happy" marriage     (America)
submitted by Saintdindufromthelandofnuffins to America 29 minutes ago (+1/-0)
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Some of these beautiful interesting people it is very difficult to imagine what exactly goes wrong between them and the opposite sex. Then again I've never really been single very long so I probably have the opposite problem. But some of these were very funny people who it is sad to imagine them being alone
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black cop calls black chicagoan the n word     (files.catbox.moe)
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I’m not a gamer but I do keep a copy of my favorite video game on the shelf in my office.     (files.catbox.moe)
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pose comitatus out of the window: Exclusive-US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows     (www.yahoo.com)
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-us-marines-carry-first-215221622.html

national guard or the police should have done this not the marines since trump didnt even declare an insurrection.
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Bonnie Parker of Bonnie and Clyde fame, working as a waitress at Marco’s Cafe in Dallas, Texas - circa 1929.     (files.catbox.moe)
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Bonnie Parker of Bonnie and Clyde fame, working as a waitress at Marco’s Cafe in Dallas, Texas - circa 1929.
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Well, would you look at that! It is Friday again already. Man these weeks go by fast in the summer. It is time for the Friday Night Guitar Thread. You all know what this is by now. It is time for you to play us a tune. Music is for sharing. Get in here. Show us your musical chops!      (Guitar)
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Once again, it's time for the FNGT!

If you don't know how this works, click this link.. If you already know what's going on, you probably don't need to. That link will take you to another site to give you some additional information and tell you about some of our off-site features. That's also the site where we will host the weekly guitar threads, should Upgoat.net go down.

NOTE: That site is by invitation only. If you want an invite, ask a regular participant (such as @TheRealBuddha or myself)

If you already know what's going on, you probably don't need to click any of those links. You can still visit to see if any changes have been made, as that's also where we kept the archives and have a second forum.

By the way, we're down to just two of us. If you want to help, let us know.
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1999 Miller Park crane collapse     (files.catbox.moe)
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On July 14, 1999, a massive crane named Big Blue collapsed while lifting a section of the retractable roof for the new Miller Park baseball stadium in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The accident killed three iron workers and injured five others.
The crane, which was lifting a section of the stadium roof weighing over 450 tons, collapsed due to several environmental factors, including wind speeds of 20-21 mph with gusts up to 26-27 mph, and the crane sinking about a foot into the soil when it initially lifted the roof section earlier that day.
The incident led to significant financial consequences, including over $500,000 in fines and a lawsuit settlement of over $99 million, and delayed the completion of Miller Park by a year.
The collapse also highlighted critical issues in crane safety and management, leading to important lessons for the construction industry.
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Introducing Sub: Yardwork     (Yardwork)
submitted by Trope to Yardwork 53 minutes ago (+5/-0)
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Somewhere between Gardening and Tellvoat is an appropriate sub for talking about the work we do on our yards. Worked your ass off all day in the yard? Post a photo or talk about it here.
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Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum. Habemus Paedo     (files.catbox.moe)
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Reminder - Israel (a non-signatory member with a stolen, rogue, uninspected nuclear weapons program and stockpile) has pre-emptively attacked a signatory member of the U.N. Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.... WITHOUT ANY PROOF IRAN WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE TREATY.      (en.wikipedia.org)
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Reminder - Israeli Jews just bombed 95% of Gaza to rubble... Israel getting hit with a few missile strikes is nothing compared to what war-mongering Jews have visited upon the Palestinians.     (theworldwatch.com)
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MALE Elementary School Bus Driver Dressed in School Girl Outfit Confronted by Parents, Calls His Bus the ‘Lolita Line’     (www.thegatewaypundit.com)
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Are you sure it was a leftwinger appointed by tim walz, that killed a democrat?      (whatever)
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First I will direct you to this:
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=67e8c2dc6116b

Wherein a different man entirely, keyed a car, and then they arrested some other guy.

Comments varied, but the common sentiment is that "the news even said witnesses identified the man."

Newsflash: The news lies.

Then I will remind you of all the covid lies.

I will also remind you that timothy mcveigh didn't act alone, if he was even responsible. Assuming he was, we can reasonably conclude, the same way an intelligence agency would analyze OKC, that he had accomplices. Ones the FBI were very keen on not following up on, and the media quickly, and explicitly labelled a "conspiracy theory."

Then I will remind you that they, the newsmedia, openly lied about a girl in texas dying of measles.

Then I will remind you of the lockdown procedure in washington D.C. which was a transparent fear-reflex after Luigi's killing, to prevent copy-cat attacks.

And what does that say?
It says 1. the GOP are rump party of superficial opposition 2. The DNC is the outer party of an intelligence junta running the u.s. government by fiat. 3. It is patently obvious they are terrified of the middle and rightwing population, which are heavily armed relative to the government. 4. Their mode of operation transparently evinces a design to project apparent invincibility because this is what late-stage empires and oligarchies do, deny their own fallibility and mortality, in hopes it acts as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.

I will remind you that in any event where anyone who is right, christian, or white, kills an outer-party member (such as a DNC member), they can, will, and always have found a 'leftwing' manifesto.
They can, will, and always have promptly deleted the targets facebook account, and any other platform details.
They can, will, and always have ignored questions, dismissed any doubt as conspiracy theory, and out-right manufactured evidence,
while actively withholding and redacting (for as long as possible) any and all information contrary to the profile of the attackers.

The left are a small, well-controlled, easily duped, and deftly redirected insurgency of retards, malcontents, misfits, and losers.

The 'right' are by-and-large the middle-majority of america.

The only question to ask is: If you were a vulnerable regime composed of ruthless, spineless, inter-tangled career criminals, acting as the diposable face of a completely unaccountable corporate-intelligence junta, would you prefer when something goes down that
1. the attacker were a moderate/middle america 'rightwinger', sympathetic to the public, and easy martyr-material to inspire revolt, or 2. a fucking lunatic minority leftwing weirdo that the populace hates?

It is obvious.

Therefore any attacks we see in the news, will ALWAYS
1. come with some leftwing literature in their hideout/vehicle/home

2. be pinned on someone who is leftwing

3. have a leftwing manifesto.

The "no kings" pamphlets in the guys car gave it away. It was too fucking obvious. Regime's officials are borderline incompetent.

If any goats had done this (God forbid), or anyone on the right in general, ask yourself:

Would the outcome be the same?

Doesn't matter if they caught the actual guy who did it, the only question is:

Would the profile of the attacker be the same?

Theres your answer.
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Block the Shills of Voat     (AnonTalk)
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Reminder: Hal Turner was an FBI informant. Hal Turner has frequently posted commentary that would get people other than him 10 years in prison. Hal Turner never posts on saturday. Because, unlike what he claims, Hal Turner is neither white, nor christian.     (whatever)
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He also has a radio show, on an official radio channel.
The contract for which, if he were legitimate, would have been cancelled a long time ago.

Hal Turner is controlled opposition.

He gets early scoops because he is still in intelligence, or the lowest run, an informant.

I have never given him money for his services, never will, and neither should you.
He likely already collects your money, through taxpayer funds, of the intelligency agencies signature reduction program.

Hal Turner is an associated of Vox Day who I won't go into here.

Vox Day is an associate of Sargon of Akkad, who had a run in office, and who said things that has got other citizens locked up for years, but for which Sargon got off light.

This is also why I often write 'The "alt" media is as controlled as the mainstream media."

None of these motherfuckers deserve an ounce of your time or money. They are all traitors to the last man.

Whoever says "I can help" offers help with one hand, while carrying poison in their other.
Whoever says "no man is an island" encourages and invites weakness into your midst, and like wormtongue, looks to ruin others.

In a world full of weak and ineffectual half-men, owned like the worthless unwelcome two-faced bastards that they are, you SHOULD be an island. Be a fortress. Bristling with the will and the way to reject all comers, all fair weather friends, one who accepts no half measures.
One who rejects out of hand, the friendship, kindness, gifts, and assistance, of those who have sold their souls to the devil to work for tyrants and the collectivist spineless wills of lesser men.