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August 16ths a moonless night.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 9 months ago (+2/-1)
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Good time as any for something to happen involving poland, and belarus.

That or 7 days after a new moon.

Which would be..today.
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The KGB And Mossad's many links     (odysee.com)
submitted by prototype to chatter 10 months ago (+4/-1)
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https://odysee.com/@dCo3lh0:5/Putin,-Bibi,-and-The-Bolsheviks:3

May or may not be genuine, not checked. Just posting for future reference.
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major leak about biden may be coming. bigger than the bribery news.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 10 months ago (+4/-3)
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thats the chatter I hear. Apparent revenge for the DOJ trump leak.
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Chinese troops on assault helicopters? Somewhere dusty, packed dirt common, not much clay though. Submarines move at midnight.      (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 10 months ago (+2/-2)
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Mid atlantic, transponder.
Virginia navy bases? Definitely north east coast.

Just some chatter I'm hearing.

Heading to a meeting, otherwise I'd elaborate.


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potential assassination coming in russia?

leopards on the hunt.
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just a title, no body content. keyword frequency uptick "able danger"     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 10 months ago (+0/-4)
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The emptying of nato airbases, giving sat phones to select congressmen and senators, nato air practices, sending law makers home, all of it is a headfake against russia.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 11 months ago (+2/-1)
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Thats what it looks like.

When you cut through the endless doomporn. The 'alt-media' being flooded with predictions from glowies, and people who were associated with them in the past (navy vet talking heads, 'anonymous' sources, airforce guys), we see the same pattern that always ends the same:

Remain in crisis. Remain in stasis.

Thats their goal domestically.

As other things on the periphery, that are actually damaging go full throttle, like the abandonment of our borders and the torture
of political dissidents, and the disinformation produced by 'regulatory' agencies (mass censorship).

Whatever is happening in europe is meant to keep us distracted.

The regime is falling, it's massively losing credibility. They've lost control of the social-distraction narrative (yes, the regime itself pushed the lgbtq and in turn gave press to the parents-rights movement/anti-groomer). They did this intentionally to distract from the economic headwinds, the bank collapses, and bolster support for the right arm of the DNC (the GOP), knowing
none of these changes will affect the uniparty or the regime. Instead its blown up in their face, into full-blown boycotts
and radicalization of the public in general.

They're hoping by pushing the envelop as far as possible, they can 1. avoid a pushback exploding in their face domestically, 2. by agitating russia until russia does something big and giving justification to the regime to respond.

This is the u.s. federal regime acting desperate.

If I'm correct, then the charges against trump get dropped, he runs for office domestically, loses narrowly, is forced basically at gun point to endorse someone else who has "trump's blessing". And in 2028 they take us to war.

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Colorchange 'revolutions' very likely coming to russia and/or china within the next 24 months.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 11 months ago (+1/-2)
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Priority filter is detecting a frequency uptick in two new keywords across 100+ sites and their comment sections: "Hades" and "Cerebus".     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 11 months ago (+4/-2)
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Make of it what you will.

edit:
Cerberus

fuck.

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Whats 'spiritual' about the religious war we are in against the regimes of the west?     (www.theburningplatform.com)
submitted by prototype to chatter 11 months ago (+0/-0)
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Ace in the hole.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 11 months ago (+4/-3)
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The who, the what, the where. Legit.
Some real hot coffee.

Sorry to be cryptic goats.

Voat just wants the glowies to know that we know that you know we know--and what exactly it is we know.

And that this goat in particular figured it out, same way I figured out that russia would attack ukraine two weeks before when all the experts were adamant they wouldn't. The same way I figured out india would violate u.s. sanctions to trade with russia. The same way I figured out the u.s. and israel would launch an attack against iran three days before it happened.

edit: my question is why the fuck are the ****** helping america?

edit: beece wanted to point out that I wrote "russia would attack iran", which was a mistake on my part. Meant to write "russia would attack ukraine."
Thanks beece.
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Predictions for between may and july     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+7/-4)
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A border flare up between either pakistan and india, or india and china (1-in-6 chance)

Another mass murder event by a transgender, 1-in-2.5

A riot by the right in the u.s. over parent rights, 1-in-4.

New far reaching environmental-regulation announcements, 1-in-3

A significant escalation between nato, and russia, even surpassing existing escalations. Russia explicitly calls out and denounces either the u.s, israel, or britain, 1-in-2

Another jordan-neely type event, 1-in-1.5

Another .25 basis point rise in interest rates, 1-in-2.5

$4/gal gas nationwide in the u.s. by mid summer. 1-in-2

More riots against the u.s. supreme court, 1-in-2

Further attacks on pro-life centers, 1-in-3

Further arrests of people even more tenuously connected to J6, range in the dozens to the low hundreds. 1-in-4

Kevin McCarthy fails to release any meaningful J6 video on-the-whole, called a "big nothingburger, confirming what we already knew, that J6 was an insurrection!" by the media. Alternatively, or in addition, hammed up by the GOP, to little ultimate affect. 1-in-2
Another J6 member dies in custody, 1-in-3.

Thats all for now.
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Predictions for 2024     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+4/-1)
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A new attempt to put Trump back in office. If they don't, it'll still appear close.

"The great american comeback" 2.0

High inflation.

Wage hikes.

Large riots over wages.

Lots of new loans, and lots of new business bankruptcies.
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FOIA Request Prosecutor's Searches On Potential Jurors Political Donations/Background Checks For The J6     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+1/-0)
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The proof is in the pudding. If juror's were being selected or rejected, it would start
with checks on their background and political donation history.

That'd be pretty solid circumstantials for jury tampering.
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The Whole Plan, Starting From Bakhmut And Ending In Domestic Terrorism.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+4/-1)
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or "What The Move In Bakhmut Is Actually About, And Other Hot-takes"

This is a long read, so I've broken it up into sections for those only
interested in a particular topic. However most of the sections are tightly
coupled, so bear with me and read on if you want the big picture.
If you find spelling-issues or anything of the like, let me know.

WAGNER

They're bringing in chechens, while shipping out wagner.
I thought this might be a loyalty issue but it's not,
otherwise wagner would have been removed from its leading
role long ago, instead of being starved for ammunition.

What this says to me is that some of the rumors that russia
is having logistics issues are true, but not for the reasons
you might think. Why would they deprive their best fighters so far?

This isn't simply a holding pattern.

It's them stockpiling.

Which means bakhmut was a distraction this entire time.
It was a distraction to buy-time.

The russian's were always expecting escalation, and preparing
for it every second of every minute of every hour of every day.

But why buy-time with a distraction?

Remember all those troops they conscripted? People with no military experience?
The distraction was to buy-time to train them.

This explains the relative hard tone they've taken towards the u.s. in the
diplomatic sphere: they expected the effort to fail and the u.s. to be set on its
path to oblivion so they went directly to using threats instead.

If this is the case then we can follow up with a little further discussion,
namely the drone strike against putin.

THE ATTACK ON PUTIN

The operative question to ask is who benefits the most from an attack like this?
The second question to ask is why use hardware that cheap?
Unless the biggest risk was the identity of who sent it (and who made it) would
undo the desired effect. Which means--its not who we think it was.

And who benefits? The u.s. government first, simply because now it escalates, right
when the war was petering out (ukraine running out of options, zelensky fleeing, the
spring offensive going no-where). The regime in the u.s. gets to continue looting
through their laundry man zelensky, who in turn sends it back in part to those
in the u.s. that are part of it, as well as to israel, which in turn sends it on
to britian and london banks.

THE BANKS

Wait what? Thats right, british banks. And here
we go into a long aside, so bear with me. See whats happened is the brits established the
eurodollar, basically a counterfeiting scheme. And what they do is for every dollar of u.s.
currency, they put it into foreign reserves, and then use it as a backing asset to issue
eurodollars in the dollars place. Effectively they can use the eurodollar as weapon to
leverage the u.s. into any conflict, because the brits always have their native currency
to fall back onto. The eurodollar is a gun held to the head of the u.s.
The federal reserve attempted to decouple from this financial sabotage by raising interest
rates, which while in british foreign reserves effectively causes them to lose money
(amongst other things). And as a result the brits are using assets in the u.s.
government to prolong the ukrainian war, have money sent to zelensky, who pays back
a percentage to those assets, sends the rest on to israel and affiliates of israel, who
in turn forward it to the brits, who--stuff it into their foreign reserves I imagine,
which weakens the eurodollar by inflation, relative to the u.s. dollar.
What happens then? Bad money flees the eurodollar for the dollar and u.s. assets.
Which makes everything more expensive on our side. They're hoping to use a "little bit of inflation" in britain to cause a lot of inflation in the u.s., as retaliation for
the u.s. hoping to use a little bit of interest rate rises to cause a lot of interest
rate rises (bad debt/defaults) in britain and the U.K. (and not specifically the E.U.).

FOREIGN DEFAULTS

Why are we trying to cause foreign defaults? To destroy all the dollar-denominated debts
backed by foreign reserves. Why? So they don't come flooding "on shore" to the u.s.
when the u.s. financial system experiences another shock. Someone at some time realized
this was unsustainable (probably took a look at the derivatives market) and decided
this had to happen. Which means war was going to be the answer from the beginning, rather
than a mere unplanned reaction to the bad debt. Which explains why we're starting to
onshore some of our manufacturing again, and why all sides seem intent on sending
their older equipment to destruction first--biding their time and holding the newer
stuff in reserve. This is probably the clearest indicator I've seen yet.

We've seen this playbook before, three factions causing a region to be unsustainable
for business development and profit, so one faction, the weakest one is eliminated.
This is what happened when britain financed the 'young turks' to kill the armenians,
in order to persue a rail line for oil. This is britains playbook.

CHINA

If its britains playbook, british banks likely have a heavy hand in the ccp. China in
some fashion must answer to them. It has been interesting to observe how much of the
subversion in the u.s. has found its footing in universities originally founded by
the british, with endowments and large social networks extending out into the financial
system, who run much of wallstreet and k-street, all in part or in whole owned by
blackrock or vanguard, with heavy buy-in from the chinese.
All run by zionists, who incidentally call a nation home, that was absolutely setup first
and foremost on the prerogative of none other than britain itself.

So did the u.s. use a low-cost drone to attempt to attack putin? No.
Putin has already concluded this too. The u.s. would want to make it obvious
while blatantly denying it. I know this because thats what our regime does with unpopular but unofficial policies domestically. Thats the u.s. regime playbook. Thats how the intelligence
agencies think. We would have used something expensive, but made by a secondary nation,
not necessarily the u.s.

MONEY LAUNDERING

Putin knows the u.s. wouldn't escalate if we didn't have to either, simply because the
u.s. or elements of it, are busy looting, sending the money to zelensky so they can launder it back to him. You might be forgiven for thinking biden sending money to transgender pakistanis to learn english actually indicates him and his immediate cronies are out of the loop on this, and simply being goaded like useful puppets into the war, which would indicate this is
mostly looting by congress and the senate, but actually thats something less relevant at the moment: the fact its pakistan indicates they're using the money for intelligence, which probably means this is a minor signal to muslim nations that we want to cozy up to them further, and this doubles as a covert threat to india, that if they don't play along we
can perform a color revolution on them too--which in turn tells me the u.s. state department and cia is either extremely arrogant and incompetent (because they don't realize india is
going to do everything in its power to avoid taking sides and thus avoid a war with china, its neighbor), or the heads of those agencies (or their immediate advisors) are compromised
by british intelligence, because nothing would be more ruinous to u.s. relations with a major partner, india, than say, kashmir being annexed by pakistan, or india suffering a color change
operation. Nothing would be more destabilizing, or push india more readily into chinas arms,
then us pulling something like that.

COLOR CHANGE

The other element is the transgender element, which is both a minor and major thing to look at. It's a minor element, because it acts as an appeal during 'election' season--appearances
are at least still superficially important (otherwise they wouldn't have fought so hard to deny that we no longer have actual elections in the u.s.)
This indicates two things: The transgender issue is itself a broader confirmation that the
u.s. intelligence apparatchiks really do use social issues to manufacture violent movements
as pawns in domestic and foreign politics. And second the u.s. population and its perception
of the legitimacy of the u.s. government writ large, absolutely does threaten the stability
of the u.s. both domestically and abroad. They are scared of us and see us as a threat on
all fronts, economically, socially, religiously, politically, and militarily.
Otherwise they wouldn't have needed violent street gangs (antifa, blm, et al) to enforce their politics over the last seven years. They couldn't do it directly, see? Precisely because they wanted legitimacy. This indicates finding ever-new and more effective means of denying
the regimes legitimacy and alienating the public, is the most efficient and powerful means
we have to destabilize and take down the regime.

NATURAL GAS

Meanwhile the intensification of the war requires
russia to sell more oil and natural gas. What did
the u.s. do to soviet russia decades ago? Established
ties with saudi arabia to undermine the price of oil.
Which in turn starved russia for cash.
What are we doing with natural gas? Sending it to europe
to undercut the price of russian natural gas.
And also attempting to 'go green'--to undercut foreign
oil and natural gas now that theres too much competition
we can't control.
Thats what the green push is about, at least on the surface
level, to speak nothing of bankrupting us in service to
foreign nations that effectively own and give commands to
elements of the regime in the u.s.

IRAN

Ancillary to this discussion, but I wouldn't be surprised
if elements of Iran provided the drone-in-question, as retaliation
for russia refusing to back up iran when the u.s. and israel
attacked. Russia had to choose to back up an ally or refuse to
enter into a multifront war. It chose the latter. Probably as
john bolton intended.
With the overtures of the u.s. to the middle east, domestic
elements of the regime pulling away from israel (and thus britain)
in favor of the islamic sphere, is it any wonder Ilhan Omar was selected for congress?
Of course not, this is the u.s. playing the middle during a decoupling.
And in light of that it makes perfect sense that the u.s. is monetarily
attacking the euro, the eurodollar, and by extension britian, while
giving the cold shoulder to israel. It would also explain our sudden
foray into Iran, aiding israel. The policy seems bifurcated and insane,
but it isn't if you consider that the u.s., if it is in the middle
of decoupling from british financial elements and israeli global geopolitics,
would have every reason to appear as non-threatening as possible.
The cabinets are stacked with british-affiliated zionists, the u.s.
has ostensibly given into the brits desire to get us into another war,
(while both russia and the u.s. have tiptoed around escalation, mostly
bluffing and grandstanding whenever it was possible to do).

A STRETCH BUT I'M PROBABLY NOT WRONG

The regime has brought jihadists into the u.s. among the southern invasion, who have no care at all for the law and can thus be used to terrorize both the christian-supporters of zionists in the u.s. but also to terrorize the zionists themselves. This comports with the regime's
earlier use of antifa and blm as irregular pseudo-militant elements, and confirms
my earlier beliefs the u.s. would pursue an intensification of this strategy by using
muslim terrorists--who would in turn utilize the existing gang networks, both gangs-proper (bloods, crips, new generation) and the 'street patrols' of antifa and blm, while also
being driven by disgust towards antifa/blm, thus also co-opting any minor risk for
the rise of third-positionist counter-revolutionary movements against the regime, and eliminating the useful idiots that helped them co-opt the u.s. to begin with.


WE RETURN TO WHERE WE STARTED
All of this feeds back into the predominate view that there is a strategy in place, long in the tooth, to bring the u.s. to its knees in favor of china, with russia firmly pushed into the former's sphere of influence long-term. Global disputes are not sufficient by themselves.
Issues of international import are certainly cause enough to initiate the abandoning of the u.s. dollar, but the dollar itself will still live on domestically, making up a significant, if much more minor, chunk of global trade. Even after something like a bankruptcy or default.

Unless..

Unless the u.s. falls internally into conflict. It's the zimbabwe model. And we've seen
talk of that very nation, in reference to our social ills, but not what the explicit goal
for it was. The take down of the u.s. dollar globally must coincide with the takedown
of the u.s. domestically. A government whose very legitimacy is imperiled by none other
than open civil war and genocide going on in its streets (and im not talking about the low level killings being committed by transexuals or radicalized blacks)--is a government whose
currency every remaining nation will outright question. The myth of the petrodollar and the u.s. military will be all-but dead, outright on life support, never to be resurrected, if
these things come to pass.

Some elements in the alt-sphere talking about this are simply reading the tea leaves.
Others are intelligence putting it out there to front run any conflict into one they
can control (a false civil war) in order to preserve internal order long-term and
thus save the dollar domestically (and whatever position we can retain in global trade).

But this much is certain: This is the long-term plan by the regime, and by our enemies.
It is going to happen and I've explained why, in detail. It is already carved like holy
writ, into stone.

THE RESTRICT ACT

Basically the non-co opted (non-regime) elements of the u.s. government have almost lost
the information war outright, as well the social-issues war. We realized too late
we were under attack, not for years, but decades and were co-opted into it, right up
to this final phase. In order to pull off the final phase, they'll need complete
information control where possible. They won't need to reach 100%, as long as they can get
within a couple percentages of reaching the entire public without being front-run by open-source intelligence and journalists.
Likewise, the elements of the u.s. against this plot, having very nearly lost the infowar both
in the mainstream, and in the alt-sphere, hope that by passing something like the restrict act, it will do more damage to the regime than it will to them.
Therefore both sides have an incentive to pass this bill, thinking it will be their ultimate weapon.

The truth is, the restrict act is none other than the cyber equivalent of the patriot act.
And for the cyber equivalent of the patriot act, we must have the cyber equivalent of another
9/11. Having seen this, having seen the run up to the "cyberattacks" narrative, with all
the supporting rational so far, we must conclude this is foregone. It is coming, for all
the reasons mentioned in the last 15,000+ characters I've written.

The total doom mongering about "long term blackouts" is just that, softening us to the "cyber pandemic", which might last three days, or two weeks. Neither the regime, nor non-regime elements, will tolerate a systemic risk of losing control of the u.s. unless they know they
can reestablish control.

This likewise is necessary to establish centralized digital currency (and credit cards and bitcoin were a precursor to that), a two-fer: control the money, control the information.
Likewise, this in turn is necessary to impoverish the middle class, radicalizing them in
favor of other modes of government (the transition from socialism to communism or totalitarianism). This also pulls double duty by restricting their ability to retain guns (which require ammo, not just to shoot, but also to train). Lastly, once free speech
is de-facto dead in the u.s. (thanks to social credit), the roll-up of gun rights, and the
rest of the bill of rights, goes with it in a matter of ten, maybe fifteen years at the most.


And now you know the whole plan and why everything you see happening, is happening.

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News Blackout: Anyone have the video of the s300 missile battery hit by russians in kyiv?      (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+6/-1)
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Think I got the details right on that one. Happened last night.

Looked legit like a tactical nuclear weapon the way the shock and fireball expanded.

And now I can't find the video anywhere despite searching for the last hour.

If it is what I think is, with the u.s. tip-toeing around this war, then theres been a total blackout on this particular event for good reason. Would also explain why zelensky fled to finland.
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What Zelensky could do to get out of being blamed for the attempted assination of Putin     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+3/-1)
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edit: 'assassination', god damn it.

Remember how a while back zelensky wanted assurance that putin wouldn't target him?

He could start by putting out a claim that the u.s. pressured him to ask for that assurance.
The immediate implication is the u.s. itself planned to hit Putin, but didn't want Putin killing their puppet in ukraine.
Zelensky could also threaten to put this claim out if the u.s. doesn't support him or make an effort to make it clear he wasn't behind it.

This pulls double duty because on the off-chance this was a false flag by russia itself, both russia and the u.s. have the opportunity to pin the attack on any nation they like in the face of a claim by zelensky.

And if zelensky DOES carry out the claim, he can choose which nation supposedly pressured him into asking for a no-hit assurance from putin, making that nation immediately suspect.

I'm mostly put this idea out there as a fuck you to D.C.
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Engineering The Current Thing     (unintendedconsequenc.es)
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How did the drone get near Putin's residence without air defense shooting it down? Was the crosssection too small or perhaps the transponder signal was duped to look like another plane?     (chatter)
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Off the wall predictions (2023-2026)     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+2/-2)
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Trump will not be selected in 2024 for president.
Biden will not be reselected.
Kamala will not be selected.
Desantis will not be selected.
Hillary will not be selected.

The figure will in some respects be similar to mitt romney, but a lot more moderate and 'inspirational' (a white obama). He will come out of left field and the right will be fooled by him.

A senate candidate (congress member) or an existing senator will face a massive scandal and ultimately go to prison for bribery networks and other charges. The scandal will engulf and entangle dozens of figures in congress and the senate threatening the credibility of both parties.

The smith-mundt modernanization act will be repealed, with heavy resistance from the CIA, and DOJ, as well as the media itself.

BTC will hover between $23k to $37k.

A city and region within either oregon or washington state will experience a large scale industrial disaster, equivalent to the level of contamination found in some superfund sites.

Saudi Arabia will join BRICs to gain a more favorable position before other middle eastern nations are able to join first.

Belgium or a nation that is similarly geographically, historically, geopolitically, and economically positioned, will experience nuclear terrorism. Russia will be blamed, but the charges will not stick. The perpetrators thereafter will remain apparently unknown and for years, until eventually the international right is blamed by western regimes. It will turn out to have been environmentalists, armed by western agencies in collaboration with particular middle eastern nation's intelligence.

The border will be opened wide, though general amnesty will not pass. It will become a common crossing for muslims fleeing war in their home countries.

Technocratic surveillance will ramp up significantly, as will restrictive environmental policies (limiting camping in many states fo carbon emissions). Governors will be slow to stop this federal interference, despite any words to the contrary. Satellites normally used for monitoring wild fires, will instead be used in conjunction with land management to crack down on "illegal camping".
We will see some examples of overreach here, regarding camping, gun ranges, and farming on private property.

There will be mass retirements of existing police owing both to pension uncertainty and renewed attempts to "root out right wing extremist hate groups."
2023-2024 are the year that "the thin blue line" and "back the blue" cease to generally move the needle for the majority of conservatives, with an even split among them on the issue.

The national average for gas will reach $4.13 and stay there for some time (early 2024).

We will see a new wave of bankruptcies and the homeless crisis become exponential.
There will be talk of if we are "potentially heading toward another 2008", while talk among regular people will be about how 2008 is already repeating.

The war in sudan will intensify enormously, and russia will clean its hands of the matter. The u.s. will seize this chaos as a distraction and a new potential excuse to extend and renew operations in the middle east.

Edit:
The pacific will experience a major fishery collapse due to overfishing by asian nations.

That is all for now.


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it didnt happen     (archive.is)
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Huge explosion over Dnipro     (warnews247-gr.translate.goog)
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America is going post-weimer (national socialist), heres why     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 year ago (+5/-1)
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The american elite are faced with a dilemma. Our ability
to print infinite dollars (and export inflation) is going away.
The russian conflict was the nail in the confine, but our trade
war with china also assured a decoupling anyway. They might put
trump in to end the war in ukraine, assuming the regime can decouple
from foreign influence (ccp, britain, and israel), but trump
would just magnify the war with china instead. Rock meet hard place.

The other problem is public obligations: social security, the pension
system, and welfare, military and military benefits, not to mention all the other payouts the petrodollar
sustained.

Most of the regime officials in the u.s. are pro-israel or are themselves dual-citizens.

Ironically, the only way to solve their dilemma is to eliminate from power/influence/existence some internal factions in order to reconsolidate and maintain control.

Their options are
1. whites
2. blacks
3. hispanics
4. some other minority group

The whites make up the majority, the whites are heavily armed, the whites make up the primary donators class, the middle class, the welfare class which supports the regime's criminal element, and most importantly, the whites are the ones who support the pensions and the unions, which are the base of the powerbrokers in the u.s.

The whites cannot therefore be eliminated.

The blacks meanwhile are a large minority, 14%, are also a major component of the welfare system that supports the regime's criminal element (election engineering, drug trafficking, weapon trafficking, human trafficking, prison population to support the unions, ebt to support payouts to the food producers, etc).
The blacks are violent, heavily armed, and hold some sway with the religion components of the nation. The blacks cannot be eliminated.

The hispanics also meet these criteria.

What other major group could the nation target?

The same that post-weimer germany did.

The alternative is an east coast/west coast split, which would see the existing ruling regime standardize the already existing but unacknowledge power-divide in the u.s.
This is highly unlikely.

The removal of dual-citizen influence, the abandonment of zionism, will likely happen because zionism depends on supporting all the divides already mentioned. Zionism is a roadblock to nationalism, be it national socialism, or civic nationalism. It presupposes its power on importing foreigns, making minorities socially/morally/economically unquestionable, creating an unofficial 'class' system between the races, and defending its "racial allies" at all costs. Therefore, assuming the first major three demographics cannot be removed in order to save u.s. elite's territorial control, without provoking zionists (neoliberals/neocons), then the next logical conclusion is that the u.s. will abandon zionism and take an explicitly antizionist stance soon (within the next 5-10 years).

This is not without precedent, and in fact, assuming global zionism has its roots in britain (as a proxy for british soft power), then there is already example to go by.
This is nothing more or less than an extension of the war we already fought against them for independance. The war never ended, and therefore we must conclude some final severing of their influence here.

If that is the case, then a precursor sign we can look for is pro-communist sentiment rising in the u.s. to counteract this push, while an east/west divide within the conus
develops geopolitically over support for ESG (blackrock/vanguard being extensions of british zionist financial warfare against the u.s.)
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Words of the day: \"Blind\", \"blindsided\"     (chatter)
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coming up a lot in the priority queue.
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(LONG post) Screen, Tent, Tent,DOD, Central Position - A brief take on counter-infiltration     (chatter)
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Smoke Screen To Big Tent. Big Tent To Defense In Depth. Defense In Depth To Central Position:

The premise is simple: in an environment of pervasive social/economic/political suppression, through large scale opaque organizations (letter agencies, NGOs),
this situation resembles that of the central position strategy.
And while this may seem hopeless, in a diffuse environment, this becomes
a degenerate approach under deliberate counter-effort.
What would otherwise be outposts are reduced to screening forces.

Screening forces are easily broken, and easily demoralized. Under tight recon
requirements, vis-a-vis the sociological/political/economic equivalent of guerillas,
home field advantage converts pensioned and little-motivated 'dynamic' methodologies
into essentially static forces. Strategy for the regime, here, becomes a sort of noose
of diminishing returns, the loss of which accelerates with well-directed opposition.

What is advanced is a simple idea - all the organizations infiltrated? All the social
movements spied on? All the political groups monitored, threatened, entrapped, and
shutdown? These are numerous, many thousands of them exist locally across
the territories of the illegitimate u.s. regime.

It should be imperative to approach these groups, to recruit them, minimally.
The goal is to have them keep their ears to the ground, get them to assess their
available resources, and put them on minimal tasks.
This may seem counter-intuitive, but what is does is this:

1. decisively lowers the barrier to recruitment
2. minimizes the legal attack surface regime agencies use against populist movements.
3. provides a seductively-simple on-ramp for new and existing organizations and their
increasing involvement
And finally
4. embeds regime secret police directly in the movement.

Wait what? Thats right, in this case, number four is fact, desirable.

Under the correct conditions, the greatest asset of the u.s. regime is in fact its
most dangerous achilles heel. It is startling once you see it for what it is.
If you look at reports for example, of the proud boys, and various militias over
the last twenty-thirty years, the regime's secret police went so far as to embed
agents in groups as little as three or four people. The lack of "terrorism" in
the u.s. and the west is so paltry in comparison, we can only conclude these
behaviors are widespread policies that exist, not to prevent violence or illegal
action, but to act as nothing more than unlawful outright suppression measures against
things such as populist movements, boycotts, general strikes, and counter-political
movements to a government that has become wholly unresponsive, and utterly unaccountable
at any level whatsoever.

Therefore, why would it become desirable to provoke the maintenance, and even
intensification of these anti-natal and anti-populist policies?

Again, under the correct conditions, and with the correct counter-strategy, which
I will identify here, these 'embedded forces' of informants throughout american society,
become a resource and effective opportunity for shutting down the regime.
For example, one estimate puts the DOD's informant network
at 70k+, while the FBI employs an estimated 20-30K paid full and part time informants,
many even authorized to commit serious crimes, even purjury.

How can this geopolitical landscape be utilized to shutdown the regime in the u.s.?

THE BASICS

The existing policies of suppression, large-scale informant networks, and legal warfare
against organic organized movements, atomize the social, political, and economic landscape. This is inarguable. The utilization of silo-ing today allows high level
actors within the alphabet agencies (and associated NGOs) to, if they so desired,
kill, maim, coerce, threaten, blackmail, frame, bribe, or effectively rendition
anyone who opposes them--whether or not they do these things is another matter,
though ample evidence, enough to indict countless NGOs and alphabet agencies, exists
for anyone that doen't have their blinders on. Likewise the secretive nature
and the silo-design of information operations is such that wherever large scale
RICO-style crimes are (or could be) engaged in by these very agencies, high-level
and mid-level bureaucrats and officials no longer even need to throw up a smoke screen
after the fact in order to hide the intention of these policies, and programs from
lower level officials and agents. No, the silo system and state secrets guarantees that no one within the three letters who is low on the totem pole will even know of
such crimes to begin with, and if they ever do become so much as suspicious, they
are easily let go, or like any other sufficiently dangerous dissidents in the u.s., silenced in one manner or another.

But with every cloud, a silver lining. The very same atomization of society, reminiscent
if not in symbol and name, than in operation, to east germany under the communists--
that atomization results in something startling.

The state is spread startlingly thin. This would not be a problem if not for
the strategy of the 'central position' which they employed in the first space.
Into this gap enters a 'dead territory', that which is only superficially monitorable.
The regime is overwhelmed with information, so much so that it is reduced almost to noise.
The consequence is they are paralyzed about what to do.

This manifests in one of two approaches: They can ignore a great deal of it, and in the past they did. Or they can tamp down on dissent, increase division, apply further
secret police to ever greater suppression campaigns, and resort to even more
intense censorship of political, economic, social and religious thought, organization,
and action.

They have recently adopted the latter approach.

Because of this alienation in society increase.

The greatest initial cost of resisting an illegitimate and out of control regime is simply
man power.

The solution therefore is to start with recruiting not individuals, but entire small groups. The central positions 'screening' force of informants now becomes a system
by which they are pinned in place to one course and one outcome--the increasing irrelevance and exposure of their methods.

With each organization, in each area of operation, that is recruited, you will no doubt
take on more and more part time, and full time informants.

However because of the loose affiliation, strictly legal mission orders/activities given to each group, and limited contact, every group is
1. disposable
2. can quickly be disaffiliated
3. only dependent on a single contact, which can cut off contact
4. can be fed both true information to further the effectiveness of their participation, and false information which eventually feeds back to the regime and hampers their
efforts signficantly.

Here signficant effort is put into identifying informants, and rather than kicking them out, recruiting them into busy-work that misleads about organizational goals, keeps them busy, wastes resources, solicits resources from the state according to their policy
of providing resources to organizations they intend to setup/destroy--and in the process
those resources are instead allocated to legitimate means thus wasting agency budgets
and discrediting and demoralizing them.
Ideally this would look like them providing for example, money for weapons (which they intend to provide, talk about, or plant, not unlike they did with some J6 and proud boys), only for this to be exposed veritas style, or for this to be reported to the IRS or any other agency that will listen at all, exploiting inter-party rivalries for maximum exposure, such that it breaks the silo-effect of secrecy inter-agency officials use to commit crimes.

Likewise some percentage of informants (or likely informants) we identify should be
cultivated and 'moved up' in 'the organization'. They should believe they are moving
up, that they are "going deeper", while being exploited to misdirect the agencies and efforts of unlawful policies-of-suppression being committed against
political/social movements by illegitimate domestic federal police/intelligence
agencies.

In this way these agencies can be wielded against themselves and the very regime
and political rackets they have been co-opted into protecting.

This effect should be designed to maximize alienation by directing the coherence of the information to cause our short and midterm goals to be misidentified, to misidentify our
organizational charts, our money flows, our operational procedures, and everything else. The flow of information likewise should be designed to cause these suppressive and illegitimate agencies to misidentify bystander organizations as dissidents or extremists
as to maximize social instability and grievances in order to induce political upheaval
and economic instability. Likewise this should be used to damage politically,socially, and economic the credibility, stability, and public sentiment of their support networks,
political donors, NGOs, recruitment-flows to their organizations/campaigns/agencies/political parties/etc.

In the process their 'screening-force' of mass informants becomes our big tent movement
with the enemy right in reach, not for destruction, but for utilization toward a greater end.

This big-tent from here converts an offensive approach to a political/social/economic
"defense in depth", where the harder the regime's secret police attempt to shut down
populist movements, the more they harm their credibility, public support, and ultimately, their budgets. The goal is to reduce these agencies' budgets significantly, undermine public suppport for their pensions/bailouts, and increase political resistance to any further expansion of their workforce, capabilities, and legal powers.

THE FINAL PUSH

This is not where it stops though, because upon further insight, something else becomes
clear. This campaign, pushed far enough, long enough, itself manifests as the strategy
of the central position. You see, the informants, being the most easy to recognize, and
the most easily to interface with (the most reachable) are the outward face
of the illegitimate fourth (intelligence) and fifth branch (private sector) of the regime in the u.s.

Because they are the most visible, and lowest on the totem pole, by definition they are the weakest. By exploiting the central position created by the active persuit of
recruiting already-infiltrated or high-profile localized groups, while strictly
maintaining a public face and strictly legal operation, the atomization effect is
effectively neutralized.

In the central position strategy, a smaller force intercedes between two larger forces
before they can join together and defeat the one taking up the position between them. The smaller force then uses the relative advantage of its position to defeat the smaller of the two opponent forces. Extended to many forces, prioritized by size, this strategy converts to that of 'defeat in detail'.

In short, if this strategy is persued far enough, the u.s. regime will be forced into
two possible outcomes: a direct approach which will lead alienation of the populace and to large scale social unrest not unlike OWS or similar events. Or second,
they will be forced to dismantle the existing informant/social disruption networks,
leaving them dependant strictly on electronic control measures (Social media/media manipulation) which, with the failing public trust, and the failing dollar, will ultimately see a loss of control over populist movements entirely.

/legal bullshit/
Disclaimer (naturally): I am not a lawyer. This post, to the best of my intention and
knowledge, advocates no illegality. Consult a lawyer if you are unsure.

/End of legal bullshit/

This post is strictly for entertainment, and information-purposes only.
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Large scale chemical or radiological attack imminent in western europe or the u.s. 50-75% chance within the next 12-16 hours.     (chatter)
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1-in-3 chance normalized to past prediction accuracy. Long tail risk out to 21 days from now.

Factors include intensification of armenian war zone, concurrent war drills by adversarial nations, recent u.s. readiness changes, insider information about preparations for lowering DEFCON 3 (and 2 in some theaters), attacks on russian nuclear triad, previous narratives out of london wrt to uranium smuggling, israel redlining of iranian enrichment and followup attacks, discontinuation of nuclear treaties, war in syria, large attacks on nato comms arguably by russia (unlikely). Continual and growing abandonment of the petrodollar system. Escalatory situational planning esp. u.s. war gaming the loss of power projection over the failing dollar, israeli war scenarios involving the loss of military support from the u.s., and chinese scenarios involving limited windows to act on taiwan.

Potential targets are taiwan, CONUS (with the inclusion of hawaii), and western europe, with an emphasis on five-eyes nations excluding new zealand and australia.

More to come as new info and developments unfold.