Remember how a while back zelensky wanted assurance that putin wouldn't target him?
He could start by putting out a claim that the u.s. pressured him to ask for that assurance. The immediate implication is the u.s. itself planned to hit Putin, but didn't want Putin killing their puppet in ukraine. Zelensky could also threaten to put this claim out if the u.s. doesn't support him or make an effort to make it clear he wasn't behind it.
This pulls double duty because on the off-chance this was a false flag by russia itself, both russia and the u.s. have the opportunity to pin the attack on any nation they like in the face of a claim by zelensky.
And if zelensky DOES carry out the claim, he can choose which nation supposedly pressured him into asking for a no-hit assurance from putin, making that nation immediately suspect.
I'm mostly put this idea out there as a fuck you to D.C.
[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 07:22:12 ago (+1/-0)
I was thinking Option 3 - that Russia was preparing to lob a tactical nuke at Bakhmut and the Ukrainian forces but then I learned the Russian regulars are still there so...rules that out unless they withdraw too but something's going down as Putin is going to do something using the "drone attack" as the pretext imo e.g. cut off telecommunications to Europe.
The drone attack seems to be a false flag. How on earth slow-moving drones could get anywhere near the Kremlin? But then...the was Mathias Rust!
Thats missing the bigger picture: If zelensky employs this "get out of jail free card", and russia persists going after him, rather than escalating, then thats evidence it was a false flag, or russia is using it as an excuse to go after him. The follow up is that if the u.s. defends him, then the u.s. is in fact instigator, where if the u.s. doesn't defend him then it suggests he IS the instigator.
It's the prisoners dilemma.
All the brits have to do, to irrevocably hurt the u.s. for say the fed's war against the euro, is for them to have their go-betweens in the u.s. government indicate zelensky is in fact the source of the bombing.
zelensky, left to twist in the wind, will see this as a final betrayal, and having enlisted other nations now, will balk and counter by putting it at the feet of the u.s. He'll calculate that the u.s. will demure to keep the war effort going, because without him the looting of the u.s. treasury stops, and meanwhile in congress and the senate is too dispersed and strangled by the DOD. He's that arrogant. Count on it.
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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 06:56:59 ago (+0/-0)
Wagner Group will leave Bakhmut
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[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 07:16:49 ago (+1/-0)
If wagner pulls out of bakhmut it could mean three things:
1. whoever commands them has turned against putin
2. this was all a game between russia and the u.s. to loot and split up ukraine
3. they are preparing for a new large operation that hasn't been announced yet.
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[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 07:22:12 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 04:33:40 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 04:25:54 ago (+0/-0)
Sir, I think you a drawing a long bow.
The drone attack seems to be a false flag. How on earth slow-moving drones could get anywhere near the Kremlin? But then...the was Mathias Rust!
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[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 07:13:41 ago (+0/-0)
Thats missing the bigger picture: If zelensky employs this "get out of jail free card", and russia persists going after him, rather than escalating, then thats evidence it was a false flag, or russia is using it as an excuse to go after him.
The follow up is that if the u.s. defends him, then the u.s. is in fact instigator, where if the u.s. doesn't defend him then it suggests he IS the instigator.
It's the prisoners dilemma.
All the brits have to do, to irrevocably hurt the u.s. for say the fed's war against the euro, is for them to have their go-betweens in the u.s. government indicate zelensky is in fact the source of the bombing.
zelensky, left to twist in the wind, will see this as a final betrayal, and having enlisted other nations now, will balk and counter by putting it at the feet of the u.s. He'll calculate that the u.s. will demure to keep the war effort going, because without him the looting of the u.s. treasury stops, and meanwhile in congress and the senate is too dispersed and strangled by the DOD. He's that arrogant. Count on it.
But hell, maybe I'm reaching.
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[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2.1 yearsMay 5, 2023 02:15:16 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] yesiknow -1 points 2.1 yearsMay 4, 2023 20:28:23 ago (+0/-1)
If Putin wants to take out Zelensky it's because Putin's jews want to take out Zelensky.