That is a really interesting question! Using radio, for example, SDR (Software Defined Radio) to act as the link between Aether nodes, instead of using the internet... The best place to ask that is in /b/Meta on Aether, or on Aether's https Forum site.
Keep you client running, as it takes a while to pull in the info from other nodes. Also, at the bottom left, check "Status" to see if you are getting through your firewall ok. (Look at incoming connections, etc.)
It might be possible using "Pager" frequencies and tech...
It is a public information announcement. Call it an advertisement, if you like. If you look at the spec of Aether and still think a centralized, http website is still a better place for Voat, well I would like to hear your reasons.
If something is Free Software, one of the 4 requirements (Freedom 1) is that the source is readable by a human, and Aether supports all 4 Freedoms:
* Freedom 0 - Use - in any way you like
* Freedom 1 - Read -humans can read the code
* Freedom 2 - Share - Freely share exact copies of the code to help your neighbour
* Freedom 3 - Improve - Free to change the code to make it suitable for yourself
Aether is produced using a collaborative methodology (Open Source co-operation) where users can contribute code and suggest improvements. You can find the source here:
Having Aether run in a browser has already been accomplished! The project is called "Aether Universes" and is a for-profit venture by the developers with the goal of making profits sufficient to fund continuing development on Aether itself, which is available gratis.
Aether Universes will eventually have some convergence with Aether. It is viewed as an important way of onboarding people to Aether.
@system, please look at Aether and invite the community over there, if nothing else, as a place to regroup. On engineering grounds alone, a distributed application for a community like ours is a strong idea:
Voat really should end up on Aether. The arguments are compelling. https://getaether.net
If any of you still haven't heard about Aether, read the FAQ there and be sure to enable nsfw in settings.
By sharing the CID (Content Identification) in the IPFS hash, other people can help make the content available. (Use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) and a VM (Virtual Machine) and seed content using ipfs-desktop:
https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-desktop
And please consider making Aether Voat's new home:
https://getaether.net
Don't use the Odysee page to upload content there, use a LBRY compliant client, for example the official one at https://lbry.com or a Free fork which has had LBRY Inc's blacklist removed here:
Unlike using Odysee's webpage tool, uploading with a client informs the blockchain that the content will also be available from sources other than Odysee.com, so it would be retrievable if censored/masked.
Use a VPN if you are pinning (publishing content) and run your IPFS node inside a VM (Virtual Machine). We should be sharing IPFS CIDs (Content Identification) hashes to share content, and using IPFS as our CDN (Content Delivery Network).
Here is an example of an IPFS tool to make the process simple:
https://imageserver.link/
You can create your own instance of imageserver.link
*looks*,but in Aether, everything is nsfw by default, so you need to go into settings to enable things like viewing of thumbnails and the nsfw communities. Even /b/Cooking is nsfw! Then you need to actually subscribe to those communities. Try /b/Covidhoax /b/Vaccines /b/TechnologyNewsNetwork /b/History
If you want to experiment, try posting in /b/Sandbox
Introduce any new sub you create in /b/LookAtMyNewSub
Some instructions here:
https://meta.getaether.net/t/solved-import-export-profile-one-user-multiple-devices/420
/b/Voat is here:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
I am sure many people here are familiar with Voat, the community of Goats which formed as a breakaway from Reddit. When voat.co closed (as might catbox, one day) System provided a new site, voat.xyz. voat.xyz is now known as talk.lol
My own view is that that compelling engineering reasons make Aether the best place for the Voat community. If you look at Aether's FAQ, you will see why.
Chromium is, like Brave, a fork of Chrome. The Brave Browser project was started by Brendan Eich, the founder of the Mozilla project, which created Firefox. (He grew disillusioned by the politics at Mozilla.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
I am not happy with Google being upstream of so many browsers, but at the moment, Brave is relatively good. You might like to try LibreWolf, which is a based fork of Firefox:
Here is an image hosted on IPFS: QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo
You probably can't see it, if you haven't setup IPFS yet. If you have IPFS running, you can view that image without HTTP. (Brave browser supports IPFS now, by the way.)
Here is the same image served via HTTP instead of ipfs:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo
You can see the ipfs CID hash beginning Qm is the same.
If you valued that image, and wanted to help ensure that it was available to others, you could pin it on IPFS, using ipfs-desktop, for example. This would mean that your device would download the file, and then, when other people want it, would serve it to them by uploading it.
The ipfs-companion extension is not necessary. It is a convenience. If you don't want a GUI, you don't even need ipfs-desktop, but it is great to have.
If you use Brave browser (the fork of Chrome), ipfs is now integrated:
Brave users
You can run IPFS directly in your browser — no need for IPFS Desktop or the command line. Open Companion Preferences and set the IPFS node type to “Provided by Brave”.
If you create a dump of images to share, please always pin the file to IPFS (easily achieved using ipfs-desktop), and publish the CID (Content Identification) hash when you announce the dump.
You can use it with a Free fork of the LBRY client:
https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases
Here is ipfs-desktop:
https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-desktop#install
Finally:
Aether! If you are not yet aware of Aether, you should be, and if you don't understand why, read the FAQ. Aether should be where Voat lives...
Aetherian -2 points 2.4 years ago
No, I don't know.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61c8bb499ba68
Aetherian 1 point 2.4 years ago*
That is a really interesting question! Using radio, for example, SDR (Software Defined Radio) to act as the link between Aether nodes, instead of using the internet... The best place to ask that is in /b/Meta on Aether, or on Aether's https Forum site.
Keep you client running, as it takes a while to pull in the info from other nodes. Also, at the bottom left, check "Status" to see if you are getting through your firewall ok. (Look at incoming connections, etc.)
It might be possible using "Pager" frequencies and tech...
Also, try asking: aether://user/53b2b786cae5665b7a22822a3365dd935920c25aa8f9b301ccd8c644fea1bcf3
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61c8bb499ba68
Aetherian -2 points 2.4 years ago
It is a public information announcement. Call it an advertisement, if you like. If you look at the spec of Aether and still think a centralized, http website is still a better place for Voat, well I would like to hear your reasons.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61c8bb499ba68
Aetherian 0 points 2.4 years ago
If something is Free Software, one of the 4 requirements (Freedom 1) is that the source is readable by a human, and Aether supports all 4 Freedoms:
* Freedom 0 - Use - in any way you like
* Freedom 1 - Read -humans can read the code
* Freedom 2 - Share - Freely share exact copies of the code to help your neighbour
* Freedom 3 - Improve - Free to change the code to make it suitable for yourself
Aether is produced using a collaborative methodology (Open Source co-operation) where users can contribute code and suggest improvements. You can find the source here:
https://getaether.net/opensource/
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61c8bb499ba68
Aetherian 1 point 2.4 years ago
Having Aether run in a browser has already been accomplished! The project is called "Aether Universes" and is a for-profit venture by the developers with the goal of making profits sufficient to fund continuing development on Aether itself, which is available gratis.
Aether Universes will eventually have some convergence with Aether. It is viewed as an important way of onboarding people to Aether.
https://aether.app/
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61c8bb499ba68
Aetherian 0 points 2.5 years ago
You should be on Aether: https://getaether.net
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=619e980a46ebf
Aetherian 0 points 2.5 years ago
@system, please look at Aether and invite the community over there, if nothing else, as a place to regroup. On engineering grounds alone, a distributed application for a community like ours is a strong idea:
https://getaether.net
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=619e980a46ebf
Aetherian 0 points 2.5 years ago
Voat really should end up on Aether. The arguments are compelling. https://getaether.net
If any of you still haven't heard about Aether, read the FAQ there and be sure to enable nsfw in settings.
/b/Voat:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=619e980a46ebf
Aetherian 1 point 2.5 years ago
Voat should be on Aether
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=619e980a46ebf
Aetherian 1 point 2.5 years ago
Aether is the natural home for Voat. Goats, here you are: https://getaether.net
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=619e980a46ebf
Aetherian 0 points 2.6 years ago
IPFS
https://imageserver.link
By sharing the CID (Content Identification) in the IPFS hash, other people can help make the content available. (Use a VPN (Virtual Private Network) and a VM (Virtual Machine) and seed content using ipfs-desktop:
https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-desktop
And please consider making Aether Voat's new home:
https://getaether.net
/v/pics viewpost?postid=61722202d3c5f
Aetherian 1 point 2.6 years ago
Thanks! What I think should be pinned on the Front Page is Aether:
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=6110f3369caf9
/v/news viewpost?postid=616ce20477ac6
Aetherian 1 point 2.6 years ago
The two strongest solutions against censorship currently are LBRY (many are familiar with Odysee.com) and IPFS (Inter Planetary File System).
LBRY
https://odysee.com/@FreeSoftware:1/IPFS+LBRY-Experiment:e
https://cdn.lbryplayer.xyz/api/v4/streams/free/IPFS+LBRY-Experiment/eaf79012b853ce6432422fa7de3a17856566f357/2f41c6
Don't use the Odysee page to upload content there, use a LBRY compliant client, for example the official one at https://lbry.com or a Free fork which has had LBRY Inc's blacklist removed here:
https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases
Unlike using Odysee's webpage tool, uploading with a client informs the blockchain that the content will also be available from sources other than Odysee.com, so it would be retrievable if censored/masked.
IPFS
https://odysee.com/@FreeSoftware:1/HowToIPFSandLBRY:2
Use a VPN if you are pinning (publishing content) and run your IPFS node inside a VM (Virtual Machine). We should be sharing IPFS CIDs (Content Identification) hashes to share content, and using IPFS as our CDN (Content Delivery Network).
Here is an example of an IPFS tool to make the process simple:
https://imageserver.link/
You can create your own instance of imageserver.link
https://github.com/ekumahost/ImageServer
/v/news viewpost?postid=616ce20477ac6
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
*looks*,but in Aether, everything is nsfw by default, so you need to go into settings to enable things like viewing of thumbnails and the nsfw communities. Even /b/Cooking is nsfw! Then you need to actually subscribe to those communities. Try /b/Covidhoax /b/Vaccines /b/TechnologyNewsNetwork /b/History
If you want to experiment, try posting in /b/Sandbox
Introduce any new sub you create in /b/LookAtMyNewSub
Some instructions here:
https://meta.getaether.net/t/solved-import-export-profile-one-user-multiple-devices/420
/b/Voat is here:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
I don't think Voat is dead here. Voat is certainly alive on Aether.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
This is a notable comment, and people should heed @ZorbaTheGreek: if you use IPFS to pin content on your machine, be sure to use a VPN for it.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 2 points 2.7 years ago
Brave browser has integrated ipfs support. I think Opera might too.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
There is a Firefox Extension for IPFS companion, or you could stick with the command line interface, since you don't like Extensions.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
I am sure many people here are familiar with Voat, the community of Goats which formed as a breakaway from Reddit. When voat.co closed (as might catbox, one day) System provided a new site, voat.xyz. voat.xyz is now known as talk.lol
My own view is that that compelling engineering reasons make Aether the best place for the Voat community. If you look at Aether's FAQ, you will see why.
https://getaether.net
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 1 point 2.7 years ago
Chromium is, like Brave, a fork of Chrome. The Brave Browser project was started by Brendan Eich, the founder of the Mozilla project, which created Firefox. (He grew disillusioned by the politics at Mozilla.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
I am not happy with Google being upstream of so many browsers, but at the moment, Brave is relatively good. You might like to try LibreWolf, which is a based fork of Firefox:
https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io/
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago
Here is an image hosted on IPFS: QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo
You probably can't see it, if you haven't setup IPFS yet. If you have IPFS running, you can view that image without HTTP. (Brave browser supports IPFS now, by the way.)
Here is the same image served via HTTP instead of ipfs:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo
You can see the ipfs CID hash beginning Qm is the same.
If you valued that image, and wanted to help ensure that it was available to others, you could pin it on IPFS, using ipfs-desktop, for example. This would mean that your device would download the file, and then, when other people want it, would serve it to them by uploading it.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago*
The ipfs-companion extension is not necessary. It is a convenience. If you don't want a GUI, you don't even need ipfs-desktop, but it is great to have.
If you use Brave browser (the fork of Chrome), ipfs is now integrated:
Brave users
You can run IPFS directly in your browser — no need for IPFS Desktop or the command line. Open Companion Preferences and set the IPFS node type to “Provided by Brave”.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=615aa7f2b893f
Aetherian 0 points 2.7 years ago*
IPFS (Inter Planetary File System) is the solution for archiving problems:
https://odysee.com/@FreeSoftware:1/HowToIPFSandLBRY:2
https://odysee.com/@FreeSoftware:1/IPFS+LBRY-Experiment:e
https://cdn.lbryplayer.xyz/api/v4/streams/free/IPFS+LBRY-Experiment/eaf79012b853ce6432422fa7de3a17856566f357/2f41c6
If you create a dump of images to share, please always pin the file to IPFS (easily achieved using ipfs-desktop), and publish the CID (Content Identification) hash when you announce the dump.
You can use it with a Free fork of the LBRY client:
https://github.com/paveloom-f/lbry-desktop/releases
Here is ipfs-desktop:
https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-desktop#install
Finally:
Aether! If you are not yet aware of Aether, you should be, and if you don't understand why, read the FAQ. Aether should be where Voat lives...
https://getaether.net
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6159e69c1e60c
Aetherian 1 point 2.7 years ago
Thank you, @system , for helping ensure there was a place for Goats when Voat closed.
A centralized, http site, is not the strongest home for Voat. The best place I know is Aether:
https://getaether.net
There are strong engineering and security reasons for Goats to move to Aether. Many already have.
See previous posts for reasons why.
When you get to Aether, visit /b/Voat
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
Ask questions there, and if you want to test the limits, try there too.
See you there!
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6130940c26e7a
Aetherian -2 points 2.8 years ago
Ruqqus: Please visit Aether, a fine new home for you, and for Goats too!
https://getaether.net
When you arrive, join /b/Voat and ask questions there:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=61211d59f0d4a