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Voat Should Use IPFS For Files and Images

submitted by Aetherian to whatever 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 03:06:26 ago (+3/-1)     (whatever)

Because IPFS (Inter Planetary File System) is very well engineered, distributed, censorship resistant, redundant, resilient, proven, easy to use, etc. With IPFS, if you value some content, for example, a meme, you can pin it too, helping make it available to others, speeding delivery of the file.

Ideally, Voat would integrate some IPFS functionality onto the site to make the cultural shift to using this technology easier. For example, a "Pin to IPFS" button for images.

Remember, YOU ARE THE ARCHIVE! If you use IPFS, you would hopefully be uploading the files you value enough to pin to other people too.

Here are a few notes and links to get people started:

#ipfs-desktop
This is an excellent tool to make pinning and retrieving files easy:
https://docs.ipfs.io/install/ipfs-desktop/#install-instructions

#ipfs-companion
An extension for your browser to facilitate online use of IPFS (Pro-Tip: after you install it, in settings, select "can read and change site data when you click the extension", or you might end up having lag with pages. Install and launch ipfs-desktop first, and permit it through your firewall.)
https://docs.ipfs.io/install/ipfs-companion/#install

#Hardbin
Paste text, for example links:
https://hardbin.com/ipfs/QmR2NPtsbbnRHbsLsAjrnvGSS3hySLXrQsSqpM99Do8hAt/

#ImageServer
Demo site so you can practice pinning images to IPFS
https://imageserver.link/

#Galacteek
Awesome tool with a huge amount of IPFS functionality. Publish blogs on IPFS, create an IPFS website, chat.
https://galacteek.gitlab.io/download/#v052

#Awesome IPFS
Site showcasing some nice IPFS related software
https://awesome.ipfs.io/

If you have any questions, I would be happy to try and answer them.


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[ - ] ZorbaTheGreek 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 09:10:41 ago (+1/-0)

I've been using IPFS for a year now. Decentralized is the way to go. My only problem with it is that it's not very private. Like, at all. It is censorship resistant, but it isn't private. Your IP is visible if you host or serve any image.

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 15:40:23 ago (+0/-0)

This is a notable comment, and people should heed @ZorbaTheGreek: if you use IPFS to pin content on your machine, be sure to use a VPN for it.

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 07:51:58 ago (+2/-1)

I need to look into this more, but off the start, this looks like a great idea. Yeah, no one will really use it initially, but hopefully it can catch some traction. We've all seen enough upload sites go down along with all the linked content.

[ - ] ShitsInHoneypots 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 09:38:14 ago (+0/-0)

Voat? What are you talking about?

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 10:33:32 ago (+0/-0)

I am sure many people here are familiar with Voat, the community of Goats which formed as a breakaway from Reddit. When voat.co closed (as might catbox, one day) System provided a new site, voat.xyz. voat.xyz is now known as talk.lol

My own view is that that compelling engineering reasons make Aether the best place for the Voat community. If you look at Aether's FAQ, you will see why.

https://getaether.net

[ - ] ShitsInHoneypots 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 13:03:08 ago (+0/-0)

Voat is dead, dude.

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 19:36:34 ago (+0/-0)

I don't think Voat is dead here. Voat is certainly alive on Aether.

[ - ] ShitsInHoneypots 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 08:07:00 ago (+0/-0)

Just checked out Aether. Looks dead as fuck.

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 5, 2021 08:29:35 ago (+0/-0)

looks,but in Aether, everything is nsfw by default, so you need to go into settings to enable things like viewing of thumbnails and the nsfw communities. Even /b/Cooking is nsfw! Then you need to actually subscribe to those communities. Try /b/Covidhoax /b/Vaccines /b/TechnologyNewsNetwork /b/History

If you want to experiment, try posting in /b/Sandbox

Introduce any new sub you create in /b/LookAtMyNewSub



Some instructions here:
https://meta.getaether.net/t/solved-import-export-profile-one-user-multiple-devices/420

/b/Voat is here:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d

[ - ] DonaldJTrump 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 09:31:15 ago (+0/-0)

IPFS is awesome but the lack of built-in browser support means uptake isn't likely. Some devs on GoatPen are building out a decentralized tech that works over HTTP without any plugins. I'm sure they'll share with System if he wants it.

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 11:26:47 ago (+2/-0)

Brave browser has integrated ipfs support. I think Opera might too.

[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 03:48:16 ago (+0/-0)

Here is an image hosted on IPFS: QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo

You probably can't see it, if you haven't setup IPFS yet. If you have IPFS running, you can view that image without HTTP. (Brave browser supports IPFS now, by the way.)

Here is the same image served via HTTP instead of ipfs:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU5CzRAcuyRZH3tkncYxe6Qaut4EDDZETrD2aYfeTN7mo

You can see the ipfs CID hash beginning Qm is the same.

If you valued that image, and wanted to help ensure that it was available to others, you could pin it on IPFS, using ipfs-desktop, for example. This would mean that your device would download the file, and then, when other people want it, would serve it to them by uploading it.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 03:26:38 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 03:39:08 ago (+0/-0)*

The ipfs-companion extension is not necessary. It is a convenience. If you don't want a GUI, you don't even need ipfs-desktop, but it is great to have.

If you use Brave browser (the fork of Chrome), ipfs is now integrated:

Brave users

You can run IPFS directly in your browser — no need for IPFS Desktop or the command line. Open Companion Preferences and set the IPFS node type to “Provided by Brave”.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 07:21:40 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] beece 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 08:29:00 ago (+1/-0)

What browser are you running @NicotincAcid?

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 08:36:35 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Aetherian [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 08:59:53 ago (+1/-0)

Chromium is, like Brave, a fork of Chrome. The Brave Browser project was started by Brendan Eich, the founder of the Mozilla project, which created Firefox. (He grew disillusioned by the politics at Mozilla.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

I am not happy with Google being upstream of so many browsers, but at the moment, Brave is relatively good. You might like to try LibreWolf, which is a based fork of Firefox:

https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io/

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 09:12:02 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 09:31:23 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 4, 2021 10:39:18 ago (+0/-0)

There is a Firefox Extension for IPFS companion, or you could stick with the command line interface, since you don't like Extensions.