Goats, if you haven't yet connected with Aether, I think you should. I make this announcement occasionally, as many people still haven't heard of Aether. It is an excellent place for Voat to regroup in the future, and in my opinion, should be where we gather usually.
The main reasons to use Aether include the following:
Free Software - Released under a Free Licence Distributed - No central choke point Free Speech - Supportive of Free Expression Strong Resistance to Censorship - It is very difficult indeed to censor Aether Engineering - Well made You can read and post even when offline
If you are curious, then you are well suited to Aether.
Pro-Tips:
/b/Voat is here - arrive and say hello: aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d
By default, everything is nsfw, so in settings, enable viewing of NSFW subs
Enable viewing thumbnails of links, if you like
Back up your configuration to use Aether on other systems, and in case of corruption
* Subscribe to subs, eg:
/b/Covidhoax /b/Politics /b/Science /b/News
Read the "About Aether" info on the homepage for more info. If you have questions, please let us know and we will try and answer!
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:15:07 ago (+1/-0)
Having Aether run in a browser has already been accomplished! The project is called "Aether Universes" and is a for-profit venture by the developers with the goal of making profits sufficient to fund continuing development on Aether itself, which is available gratis.
Aether Universes will eventually have some convergence with Aether. It is viewed as an important way of onboarding people to Aether.
This whole post feels like an advertisement to me.
It clearly is, I don't think they're hiding that, but it doesn't bother me. I don't mind you vetting them though...I just don't mind people posting potential solutions to problems we have.
And to quote them:
If you look at the spec of Aether and still think a centralized, http website is still a better place for Voat, well I would like to hear your reasons.
That is quite a witty answer. However, we really don't know. Also, unfortunately, things don't "go to shit", they just "go". Anyway, you are personally invited to Aether.
I don't post much here anymore for the same reasons I suggest people move to Aether. Thanks for trying Aether earlier. Did you give the unofficial Java version a test? https://codeberg.org/engidea/aetherj.git
It is a public information announcement. Call it an advertisement, if you like. If you look at the spec of Aether and still think a centralized, http website is still a better place for Voat, well I would like to hear your reasons.
We definitely do want you and all the other Goats. Though Aether currently has some overdue development needed to meet all of Voat's needs (Android App and supported means for archiving over 6 months) Aether is a much stronger platform than here. The anonymity alone screams out to anybody sensible.
Is it also open source? Seems like it would be, but I don't see that mentioned. If so, can you link to their github or whatever they're using? I'm interested in learning about the distributed nature of it.
If something is Free Software, one of the 4 requirements (Freedom 1) is that the source is readable by a human, and Aether supports all 4 Freedoms:
Freedom 0 - Use - in any way you like Freedom 1 - Read -humans can read the code Freedom 2 - Share - Freely share exact copies of the code to help your neighbour Freedom 3 - Improve - Free to change the code to make it suitable for yourself
Aether is produced using a collaborative methodology (Open Source co-operation) where users can contribute code and suggest improvements. You can find the source here:
Cool, thanks for the response. I managed to find that place and looks good. Created an account and everything. I'm really interested in it because of a long term "radio internet" concept I'm developing. It looks like, as long as computers can connect to each other, even if it's not using the actual Internet, the system should still work, right?
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:55:50 ago (+1/-0)*
That is a really interesting question! Using radio, for example, SDR (Software Defined Radio) to act as the link between Aether nodes, instead of using the internet... The best place to ask that is in /b/Meta on Aether, or on Aether's https Forum site.
Keep you client running, as it takes a while to pull in the info from other nodes. Also, at the bottom left, check "Status" to see if you are getting through your firewall ok. (Look at incoming connections, etc.)
It might be possible using "Pager" frequencies and tech...
The tech is all there, it's just a matter of combining it all in the best way, and the real hard part, I thought, writing a program like Aether, but...maybe that part has been done :)
I'm going to familiarize myself with the program and eventually start asking questions. Thanks for posting about it. It looks really exciting. Even beyond the radio stuff...just the distributed nature of it is key.
That is great to hear! Also, if you like distributed systems, check out https://getsession.org One advantage Session will soon have is that it will be supporting Lokinet, which is like a low-latency i2p, so suitable for e.g. real time video streaming or, in your case, radio live chat. Session is also thoughtfully constructed.
@voater, thanks for looking into Aether enough to work out that it uses a minting process, and for raising your (unfounded) concerns. Aether isn't a crypto-coin mining application. It uses the minting process as a way of preventing spam. If you perform an action on Aether, like create a post or upvote something, a design decision was made so that some CPU work would be necessary. This helps prevent bots spamming and people abusing the network.
One of Aether's many virtues is that it has almost no spam.
Hello, @beece. That is a fine bit of Aether history you found there. It is quite funny, and Goats here ought to find it amusing.
From the timestamp, you can see this occurred about a year ago, when voat.co shutdown. It was an exciting time, and I was hopeful that the community might move to a stronger, more anonymous, far more durable platform: Aether. I encouraged Voat to try Aether then, and there was a BIG invasion.
What happened?
Voat did its thing on Aether, stress testing the limits of Free Speech there as usual. Not a single Voat post was censored! (As far as I remember.)
There is a broad church of people on Aether, with all sorts of political views. Some complained, some wanted posts removed, but due to the moderation system, which is engineered to allow the community to impeach and remove 'power mods', none of the posts were actually censored.
It was well over 6 months now, so the Voat invasion has "gone stale" and you can't see it anymore really, except for a few comments on the forum.
It is another good reason why Voat should move to Aether.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 3 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 13:59:27 ago (+3/-0)*
Needs app, and doesn't work on Android.
If they want to go big, figure out how to run in it through a browser
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:15:07 ago (+1/-0)
Aether Universes will eventually have some convergence with Aether. It is viewed as an important way of onboarding people to Aether.
https://aether.app/
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 5 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:42:29 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:13:48 ago (+2/-0)
It clearly is, I don't think they're hiding that, but it doesn't bother me. I don't mind you vetting them though...I just don't mind people posting potential solutions to problems we have.
And to quote them:
I'd like to hear them too.
[ + ] bosunmoon
[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 16:35:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] -1 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 16:47:53 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] bosunmoon
[ - ] bosunmoon 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 16:49:55 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:25:39 ago (+2/-0)
I've tried aether around the shutdown, it sucked for reasons already mentioned in this thread.
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 16:56:30 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:27:05 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] -2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:51:56 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:04:48 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 17:24:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 17:49:56 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 19:21:15 ago (+2/-0)
ahahahahhahahahha
bahahahahahhahaha
are you part of kape?
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] -2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:14:57 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:31:28 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PhimoticEmbrace
[ - ] PhimoticEmbrace 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 16:33:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 17:20:08 ago (+2/-0)
Besides, you don't want us. Did you not see what we did to the last site?
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 17:47:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:19:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:38:18 ago (+1/-1)
Freedom 0 - Use - in any way you like
Freedom 1 - Read -humans can read the code
Freedom 2 - Share - Freely share exact copies of the code to help your neighbour
Freedom 3 - Improve - Free to change the code to make it suitable for yourself
Aether is produced using a collaborative methodology (Open Source co-operation) where users can contribute code and suggest improvements. You can find the source here:
https://getaether.net/opensource/
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:49:05 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 14:55:50 ago (+1/-0)*
Keep you client running, as it takes a while to pull in the info from other nodes. Also, at the bottom left, check "Status" to see if you are getting through your firewall ok. (Look at incoming connections, etc.)
It might be possible using "Pager" frequencies and tech...
Also, try asking: aether://user/53b2b786cae5665b7a22822a3365dd935920c25aa8f9b301ccd8c644fea1bcf3
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 1 point 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:03:59 ago (+1/-0)
I'm going to familiarize myself with the program and eventually start asking questions. Thanks for posting about it. It looks really exciting. Even beyond the radio stuff...just the distributed nature of it is key.
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 15:33:17 ago (+0/-0)
One advantage Session will soon have is that it will be supporting Lokinet, which is like a low-latency i2p, so suitable for e.g. real time video streaming or, in your case, radio live chat. Session is also thoughtfully constructed.
[ + ] voater
[ - ] voater 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 21:29:23 ago (+0/-0)
Advertise on Reddit nigger
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 27, 2021 08:48:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] voater
[ - ] voater 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 28, 2021 09:30:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] -1 points 2.4 yearsDec 27, 2021 02:37:07 ago (+0/-1)
One of Aether's many virtues is that it has almost no spam.
[ + ] voater
[ - ] voater 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 27, 2021 05:21:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 27, 2021 08:42:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 26, 2021 19:40:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aetherian
[ - ] Aetherian [op] 0 points 2.4 yearsDec 27, 2021 02:51:52 ago (+1/-1)*
From the timestamp, you can see this occurred about a year ago, when voat.co shutdown. It was an exciting time, and I was hopeful that the community might move to a stronger, more anonymous, far more durable platform: Aether. I encouraged Voat to try Aether then, and there was a BIG invasion.
What happened?
Voat did its thing on Aether, stress testing the limits of Free Speech there as usual. Not a single Voat post was censored! (As far as I remember.)
There is a broad church of people on Aether, with all sorts of political views. Some complained, some wanted posts removed, but due to the moderation system, which is engineered to allow the community to impeach and remove 'power mods', none of the posts were actually censored.
It was well over 6 months now, so the Voat invasion has "gone stale" and you can't see it anymore really, except for a few comments on the forum.
It is another good reason why Voat should move to Aether.