“A key period in human evolution wasn't in Africa” – David Reich
Someone mentioned OoA in a post so I thought I’d share what I recently heard David Reich say. For anyone following archeo-genetics, the field that has taken over the conversation of the evolution of humans, you know David Reich of Harvard is the top name in this discipline. That doesn’t mean his always right or that I always agree with him on his positions. He’s the establishment. Yes he’s a jew.
But its important to note when the establishment starts changing its tune. Here he is basically admitting that OoA is wrong — its myopic and arbitrary. Gene flow among homonins has been continuous in many directions across africa and eurasia for 2 million years and its been proven with archeo-genetics. “Human” adaptations in homo species likely did not emerge in africa.
Careful. The same people who are pushing the "Out of Africa is bullshit" narrative are at the same time trying to get you to believe the origin is in Israel. Note: The nose checks out.
The actual answer is: It's not so relevant where the common ancestor came from. What matters is that the Germanic people became Germanic in Northern Europe.
Germaness is a recent development. What occured in our ancestry from 3 million to 3000 years ago is also relevent.
The same people who are pushing the "Out of Africa is bullshit" narrative are at the same time trying to get you to believe the origin is in Israel. Note: The nose checks out.
The new model is multiregional hypothesis. It doesn’t argue that there’s a single origin at all.
What occured in our ancestry from 3 million to 3000 years ago is also relevent.
Yes, but why stop there? Why not go all the way back 3.3 billion years to when we were bacteria? The reason we start/stop at 5,000 years ago is because we are Ethnocentrists and we draw a line at the Battle Axe Culture. At that point, you could say the first ape to become officialy human is just trivia, unless we are having a conversation about ALL humans. And as Ethnocentrists, we don't tend to care, because we aren't trying to be human anymore. We are trying to speciate into Ubermensch. And that requires genetic isolation from other humans.
Humans were great while they lasted. Now it's time to focus on the future race of the Ubermensch.
Yes, but why stop there? Why not go all the way back 3.3 billion years to when we were bacteria?
Because that time frame concerns the evolution of humans and genus homo which is highly relevant, whereas your narrow focus of germans seems arbitrary.
If you can understand the evolutionary mechanisms working on homonins during that time period (multiregional hypothesis, cold winters theory) then you can develop theories which account for the german case and all other cases. Dum-dum.
The reason we start/stop at 5,000 years ago is because we are Ethnocentrists and we draw a line at the Battle Axe Culture.
No thats arbitrary.
Now it's time to focus on the future race of the Ubermensch.
Ok, next level, lets do it. But youre not in charge of the eugenics program because you’re evolutionarily ignorant.
Can you think of another race of humans who are capable of creating a future face of Ubermensch? If you can, it's because they are copying the achievements of the Germanic Volk. 99.99% of patents created in the last 200 years were from people with Germanic genetics.
At some point, you have to admit that all speciation events have a gray area, but eventually one group breaks off and becomes distinct from other groups. I say this has already happened, it SEEMS arbitrary until you realize that Germanics are fundamentally different from all other humans.
All it takes now is genetic isolation and we will become the Ubermensch.
"99.99% of patents created in the last 200 years were from people with Germanic genetics"
You just fucking made that shit up. You are a liar and have no credibility. How many patents do you personally have? I have 8, I bet you have fucking none because you are full of shit.
Can you think of another race of humans who are capable of creating a future face of Ubermensch?
Sure, theoretically any population, if you have enough time. You just have to replicate conditions or artificially recreate a similar selection process ( laws, genetic screening)
At some point, you have to admit that all speciation events have a gray area, but eventually one group breaks off and becomes distinct from other groups.
No thats exactly what doesn’t occur. Braided stream model, not tree
I say this has already happened, it SEEMS arbitrary until you realize that Germanics are fundamentally different from all other humans.
If you've gone through the chore of reading his book, (which hagena clearly hasn't), you know it's a very tedious exercise in Reich making astute points then trying to contradict them with "but muh sample size tho".
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The same people who are pushing the "Out of Africa is bullshit" narrative are at the same time trying to get you to believe the origin is in Israel.
Note: The nose checks out.
The actual answer is:
It's not so relevant where the common ancestor came from.
What matters is that the Germanic people became Germanic in Northern Europe.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 1 point 8 hoursMay 12, 2025 18:46:50 ago (+1/-0)
The new model is multiregional hypothesis. It doesn’t argue that there’s a single origin at all.
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You figured it out.
Why not go all the way back 3.3 billion years to when we were bacteria?
The reason we start/stop at 5,000 years ago is because we are Ethnocentrists and we draw a line at the Battle Axe Culture.
At that point, you could say the first ape to become officialy human is just trivia, unless we are having a conversation about ALL humans.
And as Ethnocentrists, we don't tend to care, because we aren't trying to be human anymore.
We are trying to speciate into Ubermensch.
And that requires genetic isolation from other humans.
Humans were great while they lasted.
Now it's time to focus on the future race of the Ubermensch.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 4 points 8 hoursMay 12, 2025 19:09:39 ago (+4/-0)
Because that time frame concerns the evolution of humans and genus homo which is highly relevant, whereas your narrow focus of germans seems arbitrary.
If you can understand the evolutionary mechanisms working on homonins during that time period (multiregional hypothesis, cold winters theory) then you can develop theories which account for the german case and all other cases. Dum-dum.
No thats arbitrary.
Ok, next level, lets do it. But youre not in charge of the eugenics program because you’re evolutionarily ignorant.
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If you can, it's because they are copying the achievements of the Germanic Volk.
99.99% of patents created in the last 200 years were from people with Germanic genetics.
At some point, you have to admit that all speciation events have a gray area, but eventually one group breaks off and becomes distinct from other groups.
I say this has already happened, it SEEMS arbitrary until you realize that Germanics are fundamentally different from all other humans.
All it takes now is genetic isolation and we will become the Ubermensch.
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You just fucking made that shit up. You are a liar and have no credibility.
How many patents do you personally have? I have 8, I bet you have fucking none because you are full of shit.
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Whatever you accuse me of being, it will never be as bad as being a @PostWallHelena alt.
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Sure, theoretically any population, if you have enough time. You just have to replicate conditions or artificially recreate a similar selection process ( laws, genetic screening)
No thats exactly what doesn’t occur. Braided stream model, not tree
Haha. No. Difference is degree not kind.
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They could never do it without Germans existing first.
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