Many people saw the Saturn 5 rockets take off. Many people can calculate just from looking at the film how fast they were going and whether they would reach orbit and they would. And if you're going to build something like that and you're going to stack all that weight in it and you're going to launch it and it can reach orbit then you're going to go ahead and go to the moon. You would have already spent all the money in the engineering cost to make that happen you would go to the moon. Now there's no doubt that they were films made to educate the public about how it was going to happen and there were some made in stages that were broadcast by the networks while there was not a live feed from the rockets and they were shown before and after the event but that doesn't mean we didn't go to the moon. Anybody who sits down with a calculator or even a slide rule can simply do the calculations that show that the rocket weight and speed as it was leaving the launch pad and going up into an arc was enough to put in an orbit and once again if you've got a Saturn 5 three stages in orbit then you already spent the money to go to the moon so the cost to faking it would have been as expensive as the cost to go there.
The three body problem does not invalidate the Apollo missions. Just because the calculations are complex, that fact does not make the Apollo mission impossible. It's what is called a red herring fallacy.
"A red herring fallacy occurs when an argument is presented that may seem relevant to the issue at hand, but in reality, it is not logically connected and serves to distract from the main point."
Yeah, rockets are a thing. And yes, spending billions of other people's money isn't hard.
Making it all the way to and back from the moon is actually hard though. Just ask the Soviets. You know the guys who invented space travel.
If you really want to get educated on why the official story of the Apollo program doesn't quiet add up look into the following:
-the photographic film should have been vacuum and radiaton protected but wasn't
-traversing the van Allen belt should have require a modicum of radiation shielding (if only as precaution)
-the LEM was designed with the capacity (but apparently not the need) to haul a fucking space car mounted off center even though every bit of weight is paid for dearly. What exactly did they need the buggy for other than showmanship? They had multiple landings spread over hundreds of miles so it can't have been the need to collect diverse samples...
Van Allen HIMSELF, the guy the Van Allen belts were named after, said that due to the trajectory used, they were not an issue.
Seems important, right? That the guy who discovered them has publicly stated this multiple times.
So just because you do not even know that simple fact, makes everything else you say equally suspect.
The fact that the Youtube videos that you think are "informing" you about the Apollo program didn't tell you what I just told you, should get some gears grinding in your head.
I understand, you want to believe(the world is not THAT bad, right?) and rewrite very simple logic with long-ass bullshit. 380 000 km, 6 times. After 50 years only 1000 km.
The Apollo program was an enormous nation-wide undertaking involving over 400 000 people. All (((congress))) cares about is sending every single shekel to Ukraine. Who and WHY do you think someone would be funding a project of that size to run back and forth to the moon!? For what? Oh dear lord give me strength to bear your nonsense arguments.
There’s a documentary called, ‘a funny thing happened on the way to the moon’. All the standard moon hoax stuff was mentioned. Concerning the lander, two things were interesting. They only tried flying it once on earth, and they crashed it. Whatever those cables controlled was theoretical, when put to the test it was uncontrollable.
Second weirdness is that the spacesuit oxygen backpack was wider than the hatch on the lander. On the footage, you never see them enter or exit. They’re on the ladder, either having just exited, or about to enter. It’s the little details like that that bother me. That and NASA disposed of ALL the design schematics. Very odd.
Did this documentary mention that the Bochum observatory in Germany independently recorded both telemetry and audio from the Apollo program with their radio telescope, coming from the moon.
I bet it didn't, because if it did, it would refute their theories.
Many independent astronomers also photographed or observed the Apollo spacecraft at their predicted locations in the sky during various points of the program.
See, many of these documentaries will load you up with all sorts of theories, but they leave out many inconvenient facts that go against their ideas.
A properly objective documentary would present ALL the facts, and analyze them objectively from all sides. A funny thing happened is not an objective documentary. It sets out to "prove" something from the start, without an objective analysis.
Many people saw the Saturn 5 rockets take off. Many people can calculate just from looking at the film how fast they were going and whether they would reach orbit and they would. And if you're going to build something like that and you're going to stack all that weight in it and you're going to launch it and it can reach orbit then you're going to go ahead and go to the moon. You would have already spent all the money in the engineering cost to make that happen you would go to the moon. Now there's no doubt that they were films made to educate the public about how it was going to happen and there were some made in stages that were broadcast by the networks while there was not a live feed from the rockets and they were shown before and after the event but that doesn't mean we didn't go to the moon. Anybody who sits down with a calculator or even a slide rule can simply do the calculations that show that the rocket weight and speed as it was leaving the launch pad and going up into an arc was enough to put in an orbit and once again if you've got a Saturn 5 three stages in orbit then you already spent the money to go to the moon so the cost to faking it would have been as expensive as the cost to go there.
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 2 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 16:11:53 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 3 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 16:25:20 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 3 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 18:08:45 ago (+5/-2)
Right right?
Ohhh we erased the telemetry data<<<< why the fuck would you do that.
The three body problem ... there is no math to solve the problem
YOU FUCKING IDIOTS WE DIDNT GO TO THE MOON
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 0 points 11 monthsMay 13, 2024 07:39:35 ago (+0/-0)
"A red herring fallacy occurs when an argument is presented that may seem relevant to the issue at hand, but in reality, it is not logically connected and serves to distract from the main point."
[ + ] jerkofalltrades
[ - ] jerkofalltrades 1 point 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 17:34:38 ago (+2/-1)
Making it all the way to and back from the moon is actually hard though. Just ask the Soviets. You know the guys who invented space travel.
If you really want to get educated on why the official story of the Apollo program doesn't quiet add up look into the following:
-the photographic film should have been vacuum and radiaton protected but wasn't
-traversing the van Allen belt should have require a modicum of radiation shielding (if only as precaution)
-the LEM was designed with the capacity (but apparently not the need) to haul a fucking space car mounted off center even though every bit of weight is paid for dearly. What exactly did they need the buggy for other than showmanship? They had multiple landings spread over hundreds of miles so it can't have been the need to collect diverse samples...
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 0 points 11 monthsMay 13, 2024 06:49:01 ago (+0/-0)*
Seems important, right? That the guy who discovered them has publicly stated this multiple times.
So just because you do not even know that simple fact, makes everything else you say equally suspect.
The fact that the Youtube videos that you think are "informing" you about the Apollo program didn't tell you what I just told you, should get some gears grinding in your head.
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 20:02:10 ago (+1/-1)
380 000 km, 6 times. After 50 years only 1000 km.
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 18:05:00 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 0 points 11 monthsMay 13, 2024 06:40:50 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 14:05:48 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] gat
[ - ] gat 1 point 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 18:05:32 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 18:26:21 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager
[ - ] PearofAnguishJuniorManager 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 21:07:55 ago (+0/-0)
Second weirdness is that the spacesuit oxygen backpack was wider than the hatch on the lander. On the footage, you never see them enter or exit. They’re on the ladder, either having just exited, or about to enter. It’s the little details like that that bother me. That and NASA disposed of ALL the design schematics. Very odd.
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 0 points 11 monthsMay 13, 2024 07:09:35 ago (+0/-0)
I bet it didn't, because if it did, it would refute their theories.
Many independent astronomers also photographed or observed the Apollo spacecraft at their predicted locations in the sky during various points of the program.
See, many of these documentaries will load you up with all sorts of theories, but they leave out many inconvenient facts that go against their ideas.
A properly objective documentary would present ALL the facts, and analyze them objectively from all sides. A funny thing happened is not an objective documentary. It sets out to "prove" something from the start, without an objective analysis.
[ + ] parrygrin
[ - ] parrygrin 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 16:44:39 ago (+0/-0)
This one tackles the question from the angle of the technical difficulties involved in a fake.
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 15:03:10 ago (+0/-0)
Come one we all know it was fake, RHCP even said so in a song.
[ + ] Smedleys_Butler
[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 19:14:37 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 16:25:32 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] VitaminSieg
[ - ] VitaminSieg 2 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 22:14:16 ago (+2/-0)
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[ + ] GetFuckedCunt
[ - ] GetFuckedCunt -1 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 22:28:42 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] RevengeOfNeri
[ - ] RevengeOfNeri -1 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 17:18:35 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] jerkofalltrades
[ - ] jerkofalltrades 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 17:39:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 18:12:39 ago (+2/-2)
Shut the fuck up you God damn morons we didn't go to the moon
[ + ] RevengeOfNeri
[ - ] RevengeOfNeri 0 points 11 monthsMay 12, 2024 21:58:06 ago (+1/-1)