Alec Baldwin Indicted on Involuntary Manslaughter Charge in 'Rust' Shooting - Upgoat

Similar reason why i collect fresh cigarette butts from public ashtrays. Never know when some 'forensic evidence found at the scene' might be useful as a subterfuge.

True story i recall years ago in NZ, some guy was convicted of a murder based on his shoe prints, hair samples and cigarette butt found at the crime scene (iirc) Years later after he had been convicted and jailed - it came out another guy from the halfway house he resided in at the time - took his shoes and wore them that night, after also taking some of the guys hair from a hair brush and his butt from a lounge ashtray and placed them at the scene.
Literally recall the initial court case - police prosecutors fizzing at the overwhelming forensic evidence pointing to the perpetrator - despite the dudes claims of innocence. Lol

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[ + ] Crackinjokes

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 04:15:14 ago (+1/-0)

I think there have been several criminals in different movies that would go to barber shops and collect bagfuls of hair to leave at crime scenes

[ + ] dassar

[ - ] dassar 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 16:35:07 ago (+0/-0)

Yea, life imitates art imitates life kinda thing.

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[ - ] 2017Fallout 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 04:55:54 ago (+1/-0)

I wondered where this was going at this point "after also taking some of the guys hair from a hair brush and his butt"

[ + ] KyleIsThisTall

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 01:53:50 ago (+0/-0)

I grow my hair and donate it to charities that make wigs for kids!

[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:08:26 ago (+2/-0)

You ever wipe down everything before putting it away? I’ve had friends like that who thought that was a thing, like it being in your safe or at your house doesn’t matter.

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[ + ] VitaminSieg

[ - ] VitaminSieg 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 20:57:23 ago (+2/-0)

Right, but the whole 'science' of matching prints is bogus.

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[ + ] VitaminSieg

[ - ] VitaminSieg 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:04:07 ago (+3/-0)

And yet they're both taken as gospel in court.

[ + ] canbot

[ - ] canbot 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:47:19 ago (+2/-0)

Then why does the defense not show that the data is flawed?

[ + ] KyleIsThisTall

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 01:52:34 ago (+3/-0)

Talmud

[ + ] VitaminSieg

[ - ] VitaminSieg 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 13:40:02 ago (+0/-0)

Judges won't hear it. It makes their job easier.

[ + ] KyleIsThisTall

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 01:52:05 ago (+3/-0)

Remember when iphone fingerprint unlocking first came out and people were using rubber gloves with sharpies to unlock them

[ + ] Prairie

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 19:04:06 ago (+0/-0)

Interesting, are you suggesting it might be Baldwin? That would be a big twist.

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[ + ] observation1

[ - ] observation1 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 02:51:31 ago (+1/-0)

This wont stick. If youre an actor playing the part of a cowboy and your producer hands you a prop gun to shoot somebody in an upcoming scene then its a prop gun.

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[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 05:46:45 ago (+2/-0)

He shot the person behind the camera. Who happened to have done a documentary on human trafficking.

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[ - ] namefagsrgay 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 10:48:08 ago (+1/-0)

She was a good one. She got fired from the show I worked with her on because she kept fucking off on the directors long winded bullshit to go do more important things.

[ + ] Crackinjokes

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 04:13:05 ago (+1/-0)

It really depends on how reckless he was being with the prop gun. If he was playing around and pulling it people and pulling the trigger before the actual scene was being shot then he'll be convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

[ + ] namefagsrgay

[ - ] namefagsrgay 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 10:45:31 ago (+1/-0)

Almost all the guns used on set are real. I worked that job and actually worked with this woman as well.

All the guns are either supplied by the armourers, rented, or actually purchased by production under the names of the armourers.

My friends got a lot of sweet free guns from that job, and we definitely went and shot all the cool ones on the weekends.

The difference is the people hired by this production were retards.

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[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 12:25:15 ago (+1/-0)

Another tragic case of gun violence ! Damn guns going around killing people

[ + ] Belrial

[ - ] Belrial 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 07:03:28 ago (+0/-0)

All prop means is that it belongs to the studio. Real guns have been used as props for a.long time.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 5 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 22:32:57 ago (+5/-0)

Alec Baldwin has killed more people than my guns have. The irony is thick. He should have taken an NRA safety course.

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[ + ] KyleIsThisTall

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 01:56:50 ago (+2/-0)

He was the EP of that film. He should have had 3 different people check that gun, including himself

[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:10:11 ago (+1/-0)

I believe it was scripted that he raise and level the gun at the camera, therefor aiming at the producer right at the people at the camera.

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[ + ] dassar

[ - ] dassar 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:36:27 ago (+2/-0)

He was fcking around like a retard - and literally thinking it wasn't loaded purposely pointed it at the chick in question and pulled the trigger as a 'it's just a prank bro' that went sideways.

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 01:50:09 ago (+3/-0)

Good. Smug prick

[ - ] NedsHead 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 23:57:42 ago (+3/-0)

I saw a report that his wife fell pregnant just after this incident, so killing made him horny?

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[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 15:56:25 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah, that makes sense.

[ - ] Leveraction 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 19:30:53 ago (+3/-0)

Piece of shit should have had murder #1 charges

[ - ] VitaminSieg 3 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 19:19:33 ago (+3/-0)

Not directly punished for his bad acting, but this will do, this will do.

[ - ] 2017Fallout 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 04:59:03 ago (+2/-0)

I wonder what she knew that got her publically executed

[ + ] TheYiddler

[ - ] TheYiddler 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 05:48:34 ago (+3/-1)

She did a documentary on human trafficking.

[ + ] Peleg

[ - ] Peleg 1 point 1.4 yearsJan 20, 2024 10:38:28 ago (+1/-0)

I'm having a hard time remembering. Was it the same documentary that Anne Heche was working on, you know, right before she "got drunk and died in a car wreck"?

[ + ] 2017Fallout

[ - ] 2017Fallout 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 21, 2024 13:46:25 ago (+0/-0)

Do you know the name of the documentary?

[ - ] Conspirologist -6 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 16:56:29 ago (+1/-7)

This is bullshit. The only one responsible of murder it the whore responsible for guns on set. But nobody talks about her.

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[ + ] AtomicForeskin

[ - ] AtomicForeskin 2 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 17:21:39 ago (+5/-3)

The context of acting in a movie and thinking it’s a prop because it always is a prop and there is a professional whose job it is to make sure it’s a prop changes all that. Obviously.

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[ + ] AtomicForeskin

[ - ] AtomicForeskin 0 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 18:06:41 ago (+2/-2)

“Company that modifies guns to not be able to deliver a projectile”

Exactly

Why would an actor ever think he has been handed a gun that could actually kill someone. The legal system uses a know or should have known standard. A reasonable person in that situation would never think he is being handed something that can kill. Now the fact that someone intentionally loaded live ammo is interesting and if Baldwin’s prints are on that ammo then there is a strong case to be made.

Working in some sort of law enforcement simulation scenario is not the same thing as being on actor in a movie. I’m not even going to waste my time making that distinction for your low iq ass.

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[ + ] Prairie

[ - ] Prairie 5 points 1.4 yearsJan 19, 2024 18:56:15 ago (+5/-0)

I think this needs to be taken further. You must check every object in case it's a covert gun, to be sure it doesn't fire. /s

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[ + ] Prairie

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It's just a joke man. Baldwin pointed and pulled. Someone loaded it and mixed it with stage weapons. And people on set had warned of poor safety well before that, and someone ignored that. They are all responsible, but Baldwin was the most direct cause.

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Seethe harder, autistic fucktard.

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