submitted by we_kill_creativity to Goats_on_Aether 3 yearsApr 16, 2022 22:16:57 ago (+3/-1) (board)
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d/thread/816ae0232c27d4174bce2b1bc182c291915b52931716a0225372a05a223f9113
[ + ] account deleted by user
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[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 28, 2022 20:48:39 ago (+0/-0)
EDIT: Well I forgot what the post was and just remembered, here's the link to system's post: https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=625b0fb8ec31e
That's what I posted to the Voat board on Aether.
[ + ] AetherUser
[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 22, 2022 15:20:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 12:59:17 ago (+0/-0)
If people are using Aether's search tool, it might be easier to navigate to the above thread by pasting in the hash after /thread/ :
816ae0232c27d4174bce2b1bc182c291915b52931716a0225372a05a223f9113
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 3 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:24:12 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 13:02:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] -1 points 3 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:46:54 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3 yearsApr 17, 2022 01:13:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 12:50:07 ago (+0/-0)
In this case, Aether does directly fix the real problems, which come about due to centralization, proprietary infrastructure, lack of weak anonymity and reliance on an authority which has to be trusted.
You seem to not have investigated this at all, yet feel happy to misinform people.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 14:46:08 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 15:16:31 ago (+0/-0)
Power Mods
One problem which Aether has attempted to solve is "Power Mods", people who grab and then abuse power over a community. Aether has provided for that possibility with a system whereby communities (subverses, as they are called on Voat) can impeach and vote out the moderator, if they don't agree with their actions. All moderation actions are open to view by the community. Impeachment like this doesn't work as intended when the communities are small, so hasn't fully been implemented, yet.
Curation
When Voat came to Aether, there were the usual calls to introduce censorship and banning. I don't think anybody was banned in the end. All the accounts who wanted bans were visible though. Equally, when so-called 'Progressives' came to Aether after a purge at Reddit, they were ignored too. Things sorted themselves out quite well.
Pr0n
Voat has eluded this problem by being text-only. By default, you don't see thumbnails, though this can be changed in the settings. Aether doesn't host images, so there aren't any issues to worry about like that.
Junk*
Low quality content disappears after 6 months without interaction. Spam and poor content don't remain visible when they go stale.
Aether has worked well with low - no moderation because in Aether's case it hasn't been necessary. I agree with you though that curation of content is important and may become needed in future. The best way to approach it, I think, is to conceptualize it as deliberate attacks by spammers, who receive a financial reimbursement and who are equipped with bots. The Whitepaper for Plebbit has had some discussion relating to this. The proposed approach is to use (self-devised) CAPTCHAs (Completely Automated Public Turing Tests) and community activism. Aether's approach is to make spam costly by requiring a computational task for every interaction, which could be defeated by incentivizing the bots.
If you see a platform as doomed due to its inherent flaws and vulnerabilities, you don't want to put in the downvoting labour required to delay its inevitable destruction. One problem is the mentality of the users, who want only to enjoy content provided by others and not to do any moderation or pave the way for others on a better engineered platform.
Plebbit does look promising. https://github.com/plebbit/whitepaper/discussions/2
https://gab.com has really taken off lately too, it is like Voat now in many ways.
[ + ] AetherUser
[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 22, 2022 15:28:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] -1 points 3 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:47:39 ago (+0/-1)
What did you say that would suggest I shouldn't try out a new platform?
[ + ] Reawakened
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[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 13:03:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] -1 points 3 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:48:10 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 12:46:30 ago (+0/-0)
It is somewhat akin to package installers. You might use synaptic for .deb files, but npm (node package manager) for javascripts and perhaps pip for python packages. It is like people have never installed anything but a .deb here.
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 1 point 3 yearsApr 27, 2022 18:57:23 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] MagicMushroom
[ - ] MagicMushroom 0 points 3 yearsApr 28, 2022 04:05:18 ago (+0/-0)
AstroBotany is good fun. You have a garden there with plants you can water and feed. There is a public garden too, and you can help the wilting plants.
gemini://astrobotany.mozz.us/
Some websites are now supported on gemini, for example the excellent Techrights:
gemini://gemini.techrights.org/
Here are some links:
Lagrange Gemini Browser
https://github.com/skyjake/lagrange
Mirrored on Gemini:
gemini://gempaper.strangled.net/mirrorlist/
Remini (Browse Reddit)
gemini://gemini.bunburya.eu/remini.gmi
gemini://pon.ix.tc/capsules.gmi
gemini://geminiquickst.art/
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 28, 2022 19:42:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AetherUser
[ - ] AetherUser 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 22, 2022 15:24:46 ago (+0/-0)
What LaGrange will endeavour to do is open an AV1 link in an associated software package, like VLC or whatever you are using on your computer.
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 22, 2022 18:49:00 ago (+0/-0)
Soon can be a relative word. I know you don't have a crystal ball, but what's your estimation on how "soon" AV1 could become commonplace
So if you had a video you were trying to stream on LaGrange it would attempt to open it in VLC on your computer and you'd end up watching it in VLC? I'm somewhat a noob to this, but theoretically couldn't a VLC...idk...plugin? be developed to be integrated into LaGrange so it would just play in LaGrange?