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"Voat is an experiment" - Puttitout

submitted by system to whatever 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 14:49:28 ago (+68/-3)     (whatever)

Putt would say this throughout his reign as voat.co admin. It never made sense to me. An experiment? Was I the test subject?? Either way I didn't care. I was an addict, addicted to free speech. And if I could get it through this shadey connect(tion) then whatever, it was worth it.

Well Putt's experiment is over, which led me to doing experimenting of my own. One thing led to another and here we are.

What is the experiment?

To answer: Can a website which allows free speech exist today and be successful? What problems come with that? Basically a pulse check on America.

I'm sure this is exactly what Putt meant by "voat is an experiment".

Why his experiment ended/failed is beyond me. I can only state the current status of mine.

Running smooth. No major problems to report. However, the active user numbers are dwindling. This makes it easier for trolls to cause disruption.

Well why is it dwindling?

Is it the trolls themselves? This worries me more than anything TBH. It tells me that free speech cannot survive on it's own and needs to be coddled. If I have to coddle free legal speech in order to have a successful site, then the experiment has been concluded with an answer of 'no'.

Is it me? I try to be hands off unless I am forced to act. I detest mods and admins like AOU. If had to worry about which sub a thread was posted to and where to move it, or which account needs gray text for being too 'jewish' or whatever, then the experiment has been concluded with an answer of 'no'.

Is it the site itself? This I also don't understand. Yes the site needs work and isn't perfect, but I am donating my time solo here. Surely any quirk or minor annoyance can be over looked, I do it all the time for corporate software with millions invested into it. If you want glitz and glamour over raw uncensored speech then the experiment has been concluded with an answer of 'no'.

Are just people just tired of the constant barrage of news that comes out of a dystopian society? This I believe is the case. Sometimes I suffer from clown world fatigue and force myself to visit just to check up on things. Ultimately I'd love to grow to a point where political/news talk isn't the sole attraction. But that's a dream.

It's just sad to see the old voat.co userbase splinter and continue to splinter here. I really thought this place would pick up steam. I am running it from the heart.

Which is why I'm gonna say fuck it and just announce here and now that I am demodding sparklingwizzle. He seems like a cool dude, but he does not have the same vision for this website that I do.

Nougat will remain on as mod.

I want this place to grow. But it is not a business for me. It succeeding or failing will lie solely on the original question "Can a website which allows free speech exist today and be successful?". So far the answer is, yes, but only if you censor speech the core group of users wants, of course! The glowniggers arent the issue, but the trolls and sensitive users can be. If that's the case then let's drive this shit into the ground.


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[ - ] RMGoetbbels 27 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:16:56 ago (+27/-0)

A lot of Voats success and most of it's failure had to do with the users. The Users dedicated time and effort into what they loved. And those specific users are gone or nearly non existent.

Needlestack loved knitting and crafts and so she created a space for it all while circling the other subs. Rotteaux did his welding, amazing work. HPOP loved his degenerate craft so much he dedicated his life to it. He probably still has the worlds largest dildo in his ass. Oxox0007 was determined to create white homeland with certain politics and morals. Middlepath loved his greenshit.

Then there were the fucking morons. Kevdude always sucking putts dick. Gabara and his sbbh dickheads shitting up the place. Putt with his dumbass decisions, petty little pouts of which there were many.

I don't know if we'll get the good parts back? I'm in, I try to interact as much as I'm able even when I don't feel like it. Nothing is worse than taking the time to submit a post and have no one answer it. It's not from a lack of posts because there are plenty, Idk?

Voat was 7-8 years ago. Maybe we were all a little younger and hopeful? And now less so? Idk.

[ - ] rage 20 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:01:26 ago (+20/-0)

It seems obvious to me that what's missing are the intellectuals.

They got run off by a mixture of the above.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 11 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:22:03 ago (+11/-0)

...what's missing are the intellectuals.

You are correct. Why go through all the work of posting something intellectual when nobody grasps what you are saying? @Paradoxical003 tries like hell, but he gets too fucked up, rants, and doesn't make his point — or he makes too many divergent points.

This place is mainly a site to rant, vent, and post derogatory rejoinders. Muh, it is what it is....

[ - ] SaneGoatiSwear 25 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:57:50 ago (+25/-0)

This place is mainly a site to rant, vent, and post derogatory rejoinders. Muh, it is what it is....

We’re all jaded. Four years of Trump and then two years of Covid, it’s nothing but black pills and psyops. There’s not much to be said at this point that we don’t all already know. The last two years have been about survival in the real world for many of us, and we’ve resisted one of the most extreme psychological and biological warfare programs ever launched by the (((elite))) against humanity. We’ve done that by sharing vital information on places like Voat, but I believe most of us know that the time for high intellectual debate is past.

[ - ] Rotteuxx 10 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:00:26 ago (+10/-0)

This ^^^

Ppl from og voat are investing a lot more time i the real world instead of posting & commenting. All the ones i know irl sort of moved on.

Imo that's one important lesson smart goats should've all understood when lockdowns began 2 years ago, if you are to withstand the hard times ahead, you can't be fucking around online all the time.

Effort posting doesn't generate much discussion anyways, quick one liners in shitposts have to be the most common type of reply on the site. I see more intelligent content on twatter than here. Which reminds me, this guy Walter Chestnut recently got the ben hammer for posting his personal research on the spike protein, here's his substack:

https://wmcresearch.substack.com

[ - ] Clubberlang 6 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:06:00 ago (+6/-0)

if you are to withstand the hard times ahead, you can't be fucking around online all the time.

👍

[ - ] derpfroot 4 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:10:47 ago (+4/-0)

Ppl from og voat are investing a lot more time i the real world

There's really that little of fresh blood since then? Do we not play well with others or something?

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:52:20 ago (+0/-0)

"Do we not play well with others" - well the boys on Chat play rough!

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 01:41:20 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] DonaldJTrump 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 16:15:07 ago (+0/-0)

Glad to hear shit is happening in meat space besides in my circles. There's about 50 of us that meet fairly regularly and about a dozen planning a community. Big things are happening it seems. If any of those meat space communities you know would like to make informal links to other groups I can make that happen.

[ - ] rage 14 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:40:06 ago (+14/-0)

This place is a small handful of 120 IQ humans in a sea of 80-90 IQ humans.

The animals shit all over the floor. Constantly.

[ - ] Clubberlang 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:04:26 ago (+4/-0)

So virtual Portland?

[ - ] AryanPrime 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:32:44 ago (+2/-0)

anyone with a triple digit IQ left long ago

[ - ] rage 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:06:46 ago (+1/-0)

Maybe not left, but we sure stopped contributing.

[ - ] AryanPrime 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:33:50 ago (+0/-0)

no definately left

being a dunning kruger doesn't count...if you still live in a "Leftist" area, or live around blacks or latinos...you are low IQ and a dunning kruger and have no business living with our communities

Absolutely nothing matters more then the continuation of our culture and heritage...failure to make that your priority indicates either subversiveness or laziness, of which we have no use for either.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:50:47 ago (+0/-0)

7/10

[ - ] Epictetus 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:59:43 ago (+4/-0)

Even just basic civil discourse was shit by the end. I remember JustGrowIt spammed up with potatoes that looked like dicks, the faggot that told everyone 'looks like shit', and quasi spam for click farm blog posts.

A lot of us realized that the only place that wouldn't get shit up with low effort/IQ content was to go IRL.

I think IRL involvement probably cut out a lot of the effort posters. I'm not going to make a wall post of garden information and updates here, I have tons of real people that believe what I do to come over and look at it and help me out.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:24:08 ago (+1/-0)

I think IRL involvement probably cut out a lot of the effort posters.

I would much rather interact IRL. The conversations are less dramatic and pointless because you generally discuss topic that only affect your or are of personal interest. People who get caught up in the drama of places like this tend to have superficial and superfluous interactions IRL.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:02:18 ago (+1/-1)

Mmm, that depends.

Why go through all the work of posting something intellectual when nobody grasps what you are saying?

Without a reference or example I can't say for sure but from where I stand a lot of what those people post thinking is intellectual is more along the lines of opinion based bias they are trying to perpetuate.


This place is mainly a site to rant, vent, and post derogatory rejoinders.

I'm sooooo guilty of this.

[ - ] AryanPrime 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:26:14 ago (+2/-1)

"opinion based biases"

really? people make opinions about things? and then make decisions based on those opinions? Do you think it's possible actual real world information is included in those "opinions" being formed the way they are?

here's a simple fact friend...it's the jews...yes it is, no it's not anti semitic to say that, yes it is "every...single...time", yes if you start viewing the world through that lens you will literally be seen by those around you to gain predictive superpowers overnight.

[ - ] ParnellsUprising 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:22:45 ago (+2/-0)

That truly is the shame of it, too many people got run off in the earlier days of the re-incarnation of voat.

I don’t blame @system for that either, as he was trying to keep it open, but there was brigading and infighting, which definitely turns people off.

It would be nice to get a few key people that start generating interesting shit, like owlchemy, rip, and others that were previously mentioned.

I miss justGrowIt, astronomy, physics and the other myriad of topics that made the original voat possible and interesting. I’ll try and do my share, that is about anyone can do if they would like to see voat return to its former glory.

[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:39:02 ago (+1/-0)

Give it time. I think there's a lot of truth that most are just caught up in real life and the cesspool our gubmint's created for us. Also this is barely a year old. Anyone who's been "run off" may and probably most likely will return eventually. Give it time. It's a wonderful place and it will make/break depending on us. I wish I had more time to give it but... real life is getting in the way for me right now but I try to get on at least every day.

[ - ] oursenilepresident 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:19:33 ago (+3/-2)*

Jew shills paid to ruin free speech sites, ran people off, especially the intellectuals they targeted sequentially.

But...


A LETTER TO SYSTEM:

@system wrote :

Is it the trolls themselves?

Yes. I (try) left for 4 or 5 months and then did a experiment to measure if the site allowed Jew Naming or was overrun by Leftist shills, like Mumbleberry and his alts or Fed shills like ALS... and the result in December was SHOCKING!

December 2021 status where you ignored my plea to salvage this site from people controlling your site by downvoting the Jew Namers:

System Do your job please and ban Mumbleberry and his 4 to 6 alts. He posted nothing in 4 weeks. ALL MY CCP GONE in one day by Mumbleberry downvoting (or Jew shills or both) and now I am negative! I tried to save your site with memes yet you blame ME for mumbleberry and his 7809 downvotes

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=61c477796d08d

You basically cheered them on, though somehow 4 more months later, I learn that Mumbleberry and his 7809 downvotes was banned not for being a shill running downvote alts, but becuase of doxxing in an anon post?

THAT's PREPOSTEROUS lack of diligent admin action!
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You should have Identified the team of post downvoters of my fresh and valuable memes, many made by me, and started banning people running downvoting shill accounts.

You also refuse to ban ALS (TwiceBanned) and let him taunt you with lies in this very thread. I (try) left this site , basically for good, right after you let ALS and Mumbleberry back into this site to gang downvote me, a very valued content poster.

WHY ARE YOU NOT INSTABANNING ALL PROVEN ALS AND MUMBLEBERRY ALTS THIS MINUTE?!

ALS is indeed an alt named "TwiceBanned" and spewing lies in this thread and tormenting you.

FUCKING DELETE HIS SHIT, the SBBH shills are now proven leftist subverted, and the gangstalking downvoters of your best content providers are literal Jews and Feds.

I can't prove the incessant downvoter ALS is a Fed, and he might merely be a State cop, but he is a puritanical zealot enraged at line art in ( https://www.talk.lol/v/MarkRyden ) by @blumen4alles and RUINED your site all over claiming CP falsehoods.

(US SCOTUS protects line art not drawn from live models.)

ALS (TwiceBanned) is causing problems again.

How?

Disenchanting and 'divide and conquer' drama.

Its happening now!!! In this thread NOW!

ALS = https://www.voat.xyz/profile?user=TwiceBanned

Your entire site is fucked by you not protecting good content from the rampant downvoting by paid leftist shills.

I AM SORRY I NO LONGER LOG INTO THIS PLACE except 3 times or so per year, now, but you banning Mumbleberry ALMOST made me come back strong, so I did a single login and 1 comment a week ago : see? :

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=624b8fa4c8be0&commentid=624bbd0b8c750

I did the comment to see if my negated account could comment, and it could, so I mulled over coming back and helping this place survive... but now... to my horror.. I see you once again NOT INSTABANNING the paid leftist shills and Fed agent disenchanters.

ALS used to actually downvote my good handmade high effort Jew Naming memes!!!!! Is that the action of a "builder" here? NO IT IS NOT!!!!!

GETTING RID OF ANONYMOUS POST CONTENT DOWNVOTING would save this site.
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LIMITING ANONYMOUS POST DOWNVOTES to one per 4 hours, and all other downvotes being visible displayed name downvotes to all, would also save this site.
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Alt accounts who have not posted topic posts in over 2 weeks SHOULD NOT GET TO BE ANONYMOUS when downvoting topic posts against the same user too many times!
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Currently the Jews and Fed glowniggers totally chased off the more cerebral users of this site.

"SPACE IS FAK AND GAY" Flat earth fake accounts by Jews and Feds ran off many educated users in disgust. On Poal, flat earther accounts are labelled with flair to prevent them from annoying scientists and lowering site IQ.

I doubt you, system, even can genuinely notice that shills control this site and larp as real users. I warned you, as try, OFTEN about cynabuns and she was a major factor in me leaving your site, and I was thrilled you did something about her hanging around with the SBBH mob here, finally. It almost made me come back, so I did my test run on Dec 23 2021.

Dec 23 2021 I tested this site to see if a "new" users could post Jew Naming posts, and found such people cannot :

https://files.catbox.moe/xnwmni.png

On other sites, all my memes are extremely well upvoted and liked. But my testing here shows this site is infested with leftist shills and subversives like mumbleberry, TheSimulacra, etc.

here's an image of all my amazing variety of memes being mostly downvoted by brigades of paid leftists on voat.xyz (almost no jew naming is allowed on that site now effectively) :

https://files.catbox.moe/xnwmni.png

See? EVERY Jew naming meme was selectively downvoted!

OMG! Look! and its not just my Jew Naming posts not allowed on voat.xyz (talk.lol), its ANY post critical of Israel or Jews. I have proof of that in the following two links :

https://files.catbox.moe/au7mnz.png

part two:

https://files.catbox.moe/5q1kel.png

OH MY GOD!!!!
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Jews and Democrats are subverting this site. those links prove it. Not one anti-Jew actual post in top 50 posts that week.

I see now in mid April 2022 SOME Jew Naming is allowed to finally reach the front page here, but I think its becuase the paid leftists spend less time here now and focus on 8 other free speech sites (soon 10 in one month with arete and the new "4chan frens" replacement).


VOAT.XYZ should survive, and with control of downvoting shills of good post content it can survive.

Start with step one, banning a ban evader, TwiceBanned, who is fucking up the mood of this thread with 'Divide and Conquer' tactic of free speech vs legal erotica in NSFW designated forums. Its a 50:50 debate issue, and the Fed knows its divisive topic.

Whatever. I chimed in with my reply. Hopefully I wont wait another 4 months to see the replies within this thread.

I used to post tons of great stuff here as 'try' :
https://www.voat.xyz/profile?user=try

but the disenchanting post-downvotng shills were too much to tolerate, and cynabuns was cheering it on.




Good luck, system
======

Good luck, the site looks like its actually turning around for the better, now that some Jew Naming seems to reach the front page nowadays.

excuse all my typos

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:38:08 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 16:39:52 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] heygeorge 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:12:01 ago (+2/-0)

middlepath didn’t run off any intellectuals, nor HPOP, nor any user listed above. Nearly every name mentioned above is of above average intelligence by a considerable measure.

[ - ] rage 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:05:54 ago (+1/-0)

No shit.

I was referring to the third paragraph. Kevfaggot, Gabararetard, and to a lesser degree.. yes, even you.

Being ostensibly passive is still complicity, in your case.

[ - ] heygeorge -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:28:35 ago (+0/-1)

The users you mentioned again were mentioned above. You appear to have poor comprehension skills.

[ - ] rage 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:13:38 ago (+1/-0)

Oh. Ok. Intentionally obtuse mode. Got it.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:14:46 ago (+1/-0)

again, I don't have the answer although I wish I did. I like the idea and content of the site because it's unique, unfortunately.
I do know that once the Qtards came, and even before somewhat if I'm honest, were were losing (quality) people.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:53:11 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:59:40 ago (+2/-1)

Pedos! I see pedos everywhere!

They're still here. We have ruined our children and taught them that there are pedos lurking around every corner and behind every streetlight. It's like McCarthyism and the Red Scare.

[ - ] AryanPrime 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:30:19 ago (+8/-3)

pizzagate is real though...there is no denying it...it's literally on the FBI website, as compromised as it is...it's still there lmfao

"the red scare" you mean the time in American history when media had to push and gaslight hard to make White Americans not realize that it was jews in control of the soviet union?

or would that be a bad thing in your opinion? Also anyone who openly confesses they think mcCarthyism was bad is suspect, he is being proven right daily

if you can't name the khazarian usurping kikes you are suspect on this site...if you behave like one you are suspect, if you promote things we know to be lies, or try to project "conspiracy theory" onto factually proven things then you are suspect.

you do admit jews ran the soviet union right?

[ - ] RMGoetbbels -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 22:01:55 ago (+0/-1)

Look nigger, don't come swinging your cheap ass gaslighting dick at me motherfucker. All your bullshit accusations, attempting to smear my character and twist the subject to your advantage skirting my intent to fit your agenda. Fuck the fuck off cunt. I SEE YOU and now I'll track you.

and no, this isn't an "evasion" at the questions. It's contempt for the slimy cunt asking it. You don't know me. You don't know voat. You're an interloper. DIE.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 01:39:31 ago (+1/-0)

I don't see an answer to the question, newfriend.

[ - ] 3Whuurs -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:02:37 ago (+0/-1)

if you promote things we know to be lies, or try to project "conspiracy theory" onto factually proven things then you are suspect.

Lmfao….. wtf… this is exactly what pizzagate was. And you’re using exactly this hypocracy to accuse someone of not naming the Jew lol.
All pizzagate was, was extremely retarded conservatives being issued an excuse to have as much Jewish crime be exposed in front of them as Jews possibly can, while calling it pizzagate, instead of “Jews rape kids”. And here you are making the most hypocritical argument possible. Lol.

[ - ] Redhairin 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:15:37 ago (+4/-0)

"McCarthyism and the Red Scare" turned out to be very real. Whether or not Pedofest turns out to be so, or just another hyped-up Satanic Panic:
https://www.people.vcu.edu/~dbromley/undergraduate/spiritualCommunity/SatanicCults.html
...remains to be seen. At least with Pedofest there is more definite evidence than hysteria and anecdotes.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:48:38 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:35:29 ago (+1/-0)

That's bullshit! No true intellectual would be run off by spam. Granted it's annoying as fuck when these asswipes stink up the place with queer spam or pictures of some guy sucking his own dick but if you're smart enough to be here you're smart enough to overlook and pick and choose what you choose to interact with. If you ignore the bullshit long enough it will go away!

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:23:59 ago (+0/-0)

If we could suck our own dicks, no websites would exist.

[ - ] giantprick 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:23:08 ago (+1/-0)

They didn't leave, after the early stages of the internet they suffer from 2 effects:

1. They're so outnumbered you can't notice them anymore

2. As the internet gets older the discourse becomes stale. After a while the discourse becomes law and you literally can't discuss new ideas because the masses are so powerful in their collective stupidity

Basically, the intellectuals are all around, but your dopamine receptors have been so fucked you can't recognize them anymore. And no one can.

And just like how after 200,000 years of men building and establishing society, women came along in the last 100 years to say it was all their doing and men only held them back. And they win because the Jews will always subvert the natural order.

The internet is no different.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:18:23 ago (+0/-0)

I am a sexual intellectual

[ - ] dulcima 11 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:51:15 ago (+11/-0)

Good users have been chased off. Middle_path was here for a bit and a pack of retards started kicking him down immediately.

Cognitivedissident5 and katharzo were stalked and attacked daily.

The retards have taken over.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 6 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:12:44 ago (+6/-0)

I liked Kat. And cognitive. They got chased off? Admittedly, I don't pay alot of attention to the shipost trolling.

[ - ] dulcima 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:32:43 ago (+2/-0)

Nor I, but there are times where you can't help but see it.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:57:42 ago (+2/-0)

Ah, katharzo, my arch nemesis. There can only be one #1 Cat Lover at Voat. It is I! I am the Cat King.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:11:16 ago (+2/-0)

Yup and it will continue to happen.

[ - ] Native 8 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:52:31 ago (+8/-0)

The magic capsule is burst, I was a big content creator on voat and since then I just lurk. I have no desire.

Part of it, is the old user base on Voat now has kids and other real world projects that they are working on so being active is no longer appealing.

Still appreciate your work @system

[ - ] SaneGoatiSwear 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:01:25 ago (+5/-0)

Part of it, is the old user base on Voat now has kids and other real world projects that they are working on so being active is no longer appealing.

It’s pretty true, a lot changes for men in almost a decade. Added to that the pressure of the last two years in surviving and protecting your family from the covidhoax and vaccine, well, we don’t have much time for arguing with retards… or being creative

[ - ] CHIRO 3 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 02:04:58 ago (+3/-0)

Voat was a special place at a special time; you can't really take the phenomenon of Voat out of the context of its earliest phase or the Pao-phase of Reddit. There was a voltage in the air back then. After the 2020 election fraud came and went, together with Old Voat going down, I think a lot of the more intelligent users realized a few things, namely how fucked things really are, and that future attempts at a Voat-like community were running on fumes for many reasons. It wasn't just the admin and costs; I think there was a kind of lurking sense of futility.

It's useful to keep oneself updated on the 'news', but the best thing we can do physically, mentally, financially (etc.) is to spend more time IRL.

I think a lot of us can recall an experience where some old friend tried to recreate a moment - say, getting a bunch of old high school buddies together - and though everybody might have gone through the motions, everybody understood that you couldn't recreate a moment from a phase that had already died. To me, that's what all of this is like. We're a bit older now, a bit more hardened over with calcification from the same shit happening over and over again, with the same commentary appearing here over and over again.

At some point, you've got to spend more time trying to keep your dream alive out there, because the reunion party that fell flat gets more depressing the longer you stay.

[ - ] Native 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 10:17:06 ago (+1/-0)

Well stated

[ - ] HelpAcct123 0 points 1.4 yearsDec 13, 2022 10:48:00 ago (+0/-0)

Depressing, but accurate.

[ - ] DonaldJTrump 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:32:16 ago (+2/-0)

I think you're right saying that the community needs passionate people to drive it. That said, I'd argue that SBBH added something too. Chaos is useful.

[ - ] cyclops1771 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 22:01:00 ago (+2/-0)

even though gabara et al were retards, they also contributed a lot of content and comments and traffic and some oft needed humor that wasn't so focused on the fucking jews or the fucking niggers or the fucking leftists. It gets tiring and demoralizing.

Running those core people off, even though retarded, they truly loved voat.co and spent a lot of time with it. Those sbbh retards were pretty much the only ones who who ever on the preview site testing or coding new features.

A site like this needs the balance, otherwise it becomes a demoralizng echo chamber of fuckit, we're losing everything good. What's wrong with a little retarded fun now and then?

[ - ] MagicMushroom 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:36:36 ago (+1/-0)*

Voat is repeating the same mistake as old Voat: centralizing on a vulnerable http platform.

Voat is small, I would argue kept small, because it needs to reform on new platforms. The community began on Reddit, and had to leave. Then voat.co closed, and now voat.xyz is being undermined.

We need to look at the underlying failings, recognize them and establish an enduring presence on a platform which is able to support:

- Anonymity - Needed for Free Speech
- Distributed Hosting - So there is no throttle point to choke and extinguish the community
- Free Software Licence - So we can a) Use b) audit c) improve d) share the code for the platform

There is a strong solution already: Aether:
https://getaether.net

Download it and join /b/Voat:
aether://board/f2c944108971c509c3718a43e8bc77d95d3591746241b6a490e537f00122d98d

There is also another Reddit like platform in the works, which you should look at, if you care about the platform: Plebbit
https://github.com/plebbit/whitepaper/discussions/2

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:52:20 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] _Obrez 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:57:09 ago (+2/-1)

If people want a community like old voat back the issue is community itself, the biggest issue with voat and poal and image boards, places with free speech is that you will always have a caustic crowd and that leads to community corrosion and a purity spiral unless you have a constant or high influx of new users 4chan has the exact opposite problem of talk.lol eternal september, too many users coming in constantly eroding the culture so that every few years the site culture changes almost entirely.

Voat had a healthy influx for years but the deathspiral started after Christchurch and the site locked down. Putt probably refused to raise funds for a government psyop or invest anymore brainspace in a dying project.

When voat died the community split because poal had strict moderation with a generally chill admin who like Putt would go off rails and refuse to admit mistakes, Putt had enough people to keep him honest, it seems AOU doesn't but that strict moderation kept trolls out and impeded the corrosive effects of a free speech site but the purity spiral still hit. After talk.lol became a bit too corrosive the qtards became a new corrosive force with purchase on a choking poal and now user counts on bot sites dwindle. Too little moderation on one too much on the other but the community in either case has abdicated responsibility, communities themselves need to throw the smackdown at trolls, spammers, saboteurs, and retards but also need to have breathing room to tell moderation or admins they are doing a bad job or their policies don't work or are counter productive or inefficient there is also an issue with purity spirals and hypocrisy but seeing as both site's communities are too far down the spiral to be told of their flagrant hypocrisy ill just ignore that one.

If it isn't obvious the people who would slap down authority stayed here and are increasingly afraid to hassle the admin for fear he just pulls the plug and they got banned off poal because after being incessantly hassled AOU just bans all dissent and treats poal like his personal hugbox. The people who would police community went to poal because active moderation saved them the trouble for a time. AOU's no downvote rule has backfired tremendously though as the qtard plague which has hit every settles there now because the infestation can't be squashed with simple user driven methods and ao it drives off users just like it drove people off old voat.

After voat and 8chan fell from Christchurch the broader community has had wedges driven in by distance and subsequent purity spirals precluding variations on the same notions, no room for debate means no more debate and truth dies quietly as what was once whole splits like a starfish ripping itself apart.

Other factors like the ones discussed by others above and below all play parts but community dynamics have destabilized these sites and chilled engagement.

There is also the fact that content agregation sites have inherent sorts of community problems that require far more active moderation and rules and arent particularly great for community discourse writ large and image boards have their own flaws.

The realest solution is creating a synthesis with user created boards/subs and the owners chose how much imageboard versus how much content agregation.

How do you synthesize 4chan and reddit while maximizing their strengths and minimizing weaknesses?

You would need a fair sum of money and users to find out.

Another problem? I'm fresh out of time to further engage or effort post, we're all getting busier but in brief I'll say that if we want a healthy community like old voat we need to build something new and bring in the broader community marooned across the web not just on the nearest rafts to old voat, talk.lol and poal, we need oldfags from 4chan, that to the winds went to 8chan, 16chan, 9chan.tw, back to 8kun and 8chan.moe we need space for boomers from facebook and ways to moderate qtard shit and glowie pay-ops like flat earth and timecube and we need to get the youths interested somehow i have never used instagram or tiktok so im at a loss for that.

[ - ] selpai 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 14:46:36 ago (+1/-0)

All of the major points have been hit on here, except for one. Why should any user dedicate time, energy, and passion into a platform that they know won't be permanent? There are refugees here that have bounced between 4 platforms. From Reddit, to Voat, to Poal, to Talk... That's all that these platforms have proven to be. Refugee camps, where the population has dwindled with every migration.

I for one, don't believe in this platform. I have no idea of it's funding, programming, or operation, and the technology has proven to be vulnerable to surveillance, censorship, and legal pressure. If Voat was an experiment, then it has failed. It's time to move on.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 19 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:05:44 ago (+19/-0)

I like it here. I don't live on the internet, but for what it is worth, I spend the most internet time here. I think you have done a good job, I appreciate the hands off approach. Thanks again for the site.

[ - ] Belrick 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:32:36 ago (+4/-0)

20+ year vet of arguing online. Began with Christians pushing for creationism in school.

Gone from polite well meaning open honest discussion on both sides to straight up every site run by evil vile low iq mods backed by legions of sycophants.

Frankly I'm done with the human race.
Most of us will now die.

Words no longer matter. Words are for similar people to nut out minor disagreements.

The only act any of us should be making is preparing themselves for the fall.

Our nations are gone. Our institutions are gone. Our rights and societies are gone.

Nothing left to talk about other than suggestions for how to self prepare.

It's all up to us individually now.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:45:13 ago (+3/-0)

deez nuts nigga

[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:26:00 ago (+1/-0)

BASED

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:11:18 ago (+0/-0)

For what it's worth, I'm with you, bro.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:10:29 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks bud, for what it's worth.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 12 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:03:25 ago (+14/-2)

So you want mods that do absolutely nothing. You gave no guidance. No feedback. I marked a couple of posts as gore. I pinned a post trying to point out the trolls. The trolls are killing the site.

You are a fucking idiot.

You ran off katharzo and now I understand why. You provide no backing, no presence. You didn't even have the decency to say something to me in private. I hear from other people.

I actually believe you are one of the trolls trying to test us.

Choke on a dick.

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 22:42:29 ago (+3/-2)

You gave no guidance. No feedback. I marked a couple of posts as gore. I pinned a post trying to point out the trolls. The trolls are killing the site.

You know why I selected you and the issue I wanted help with. Trolling comes with the ability to post what you want, it's a natural side effect of the freedom. I thought most here were immune to it. I think it becomes more apparent when things are slow.. Their crap is more visible with less content being posted which causes less people to visit which causes less content to be posted. But it's only a temporary rut. It won't and doesn't last.


You are a fucking idiot.

Ok.

You didn't even have the decency to say something to me in private. I hear from other people.

Honestly I felt the same about you bringing this issue to the table publicly. Last night I was thinking about this very problem and the right way to go about making it better. I would have much preferred a private discourse between you and I. I think it would have been a lot more constructive.

I actually believe you are one of the trolls trying to test us.

Nope. The same trolls have been getting on my nerves as well. Like I said, a PM would've been nice. I imagine it would have involved us discussing possible solutions to the problem, without limiting the speech of users. We probably would have bonded. Oh well.

Choke on a dick.

See, it's shit like this. Your demeanor just doesn't vibe with me.

[ - ] giantprick 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:24:02 ago (+1/-0)

System with limited knowledge I'm leaning on your side, but do you really take the hands off approach like sparkling wiggle is saying?

I've been busy this week so idk what the drama is really about, but all I see is fracturing the fractured pieces of a people who really want society to go in a better direction

Is it just time to throw in the towel? Dwindling populations, no real coherent direction, and mods fighting with owners.

Pretty dark day

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:16:21 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:31:18 ago (+0/-0)

Rhetorical question

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:15:27 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:19:58 ago (+0/-0)

Quadrillionaire

not even a sextillionaire, get on my grindset poorfag

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 01:32:07 ago (+2/-1)

So you want mods that do absolutely nothing. You gave no guidance. No feedback.

You couldn't even be bothered to tell me one way or another why I couldn't take ownership of a dead sub from an ousted jew.

Go fuck yourself hypocrite.

[ - ] correctness 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:23:49 ago (+1/-1)

See... you go into offensive mode. WHY?

My side of story? My username matters? Fuck your site?

You always hated @system because @katharzo deleted account, but you kept all your anger inside?

Why did you brought her account in this debacle?

Edit: I just fucking with you.
You lost nothing and you can be mod again.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:13:12 ago (+2/-1)

See... you go into offensive mode. WHY?

He's an overly emotional, low-T user.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:22:35 ago (+2/-2)

"You are a fucking idiot." ; "Choke on a dick."
Yep, system made a right choice.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 9 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:22:01 ago (+9/-0)

I could give some critical feed back but I think there’s plenty of other folks here doing that. Sometimes I get depressed from the black pilling and bullying that happens around here. Sometimes I get sucked in to it. I am still committed to making this place work and I think you are doing a good job. I care about this place and most of the people here, although some of you can obviously go fuck yourselves. :D Happy Easter, or Ëøstre, or whatever.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:08:34 ago (+0/-0)

I thought the harassment against you was autists saying they thought you're cute

[ - ] TwiceBanned 9 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:18:52 ago (+16/-7)

Ive been lurking for a long time now, and visiting other places. And I'll weigh in, since i was an original goat, and an original user here, until YOU banned me.

Why did you ban me? Because YOU decided to allow CP and CP adjacent content, and ban the people who didnt like it. YOU chose to censor content and ban people already. YOU already chose to kill the free speech, in favor of content aimed at pushing everyone away. In favor of content that is illegal in some places. In favor of absolute degenerate jewish nonsense.

And thats where all your user went. YOU have chosen, repeatedly, to censor. Just in favor of the degeneracy every time.

Fuck poal and aou and their nonsense algorithm. But also, fuck talk.loli and your censorship of the people who spoke out against the degeneracy.

Just like libertarianism, unlimited freedom IS ACTUALLY A BAD THING. And certain things have to be actively stopped. This is a core reason the world is such trash anymore, because the "absolute freedom" retards allow their enemies the freedom to destroy everything good. Its just the reality of the situation.

Unfortunately, most of humanity is such trash, they can not be trusted with absolute freedom, as they abuse it and use it to harm others and inflict suffering and stop others from enjoying their non destructive and non intrusive freedom.

You let the trolls stay and shit the place up, but then ban and silence the people who speak against the trolls. You side with the problem against the solution.

Youd be trying to help and save the jews from hitler, while the jews get tyrone to rape and murder your family.

I expect to never use this account, or any account on this website ever again, and I'll have lost nothing, because what made these places great disappeared LONG ago.

Just dropping in to let you know why the place is unquestionably dying. Because YOU do censor already, its just you chose to censor in support of pedophiles and trolls. The decision was made, and it sealed the deal and killed the place. Just been the death twitches ever since.

[ - ] system [op] 10 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:35:41 ago (+11/-1)*

Why did you ban me?

Who are you?

Because YOU decided to allow CP and CP adjacent content

Wrong. The first person to ever get banned was for 'CP adjacent' content, a grown man going in for an open mouth kiss to a minor. And I remember people complaining it wasn't CP and I was 'going soft', my justification was an open mouth kiss is sexual, so I banned him for it. Can't remember the username but I am sure others here do.

, and ban the people who didnt like it.

Which users?

YOU chose to censor content and ban people already.

Who?

YOU already chose to kill the free speech, in favor of content aimed at pushing everyone away.

What are you even talking about? How does this have 6 upvotes?

In favor of content that is illegal in some places. In favor of absolute degenerate jewish nonsense.

Is this about blumans creepy images? Sorry but that is not CP and you are being dramatic as fuck.

And thats where all your user went. YOU have chosen, repeatedly, to censor. Just in favor of the degeneracy every time.

Another lie. Why does none of this have any actual substance to it? Because you're full of shit.

Just like libertarianism, unlimited freedom IS ACTUALLY A BAD THING. And certain things have to be actively stopped. This is a core reason the world is such trash anymore, because the "absolute freedom" retards allow their enemies the freedom to destroy everything good. Its just the reality of the situation.

Unfortunately, most of humanity is such trash, they can not be trusted with absolute freedom, as they abuse it and use it to harm others and inflict suffering and stop others from enjoying their non destructive and non intrusive freedom.


https://www.voat.xyz/rules


You let the trolls stay and shit the place up, but then ban and silence the people who speak against the trolls. You side with the problem against the solution.

Who are all these users I've banned and silenced again?

Ok it just dawned on me you're ALS.

You had your say for months. I put up with your constant daily harassment. Only when I realized you have been harassing Texasvet for 5+ year and continuing to do so did I make the decision to ban you. It would never ever stop, and I can't block you so that was the only option.

You are free to talk shit on a new account, like you are doing now. But you can't help being a dramatic little bitch.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 10 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:50:33 ago (+11/-1)

Like I've said before, blumen's pedo material might not meet the definition of something that can get him thrown in jail, but it's fucking filth and no one wants to see it. It absolutely has and will continue to drive users away from the site, and makes us a laughingstock. Do you have a legit interest in growing the site? Then get rid of that faggot and his kiddie porn, mutilated tranny gore, doxing users he doesn't like, and flooding. Take it seriously. No more excuses.

[ - ] Thisismyaccount 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:32:31 ago (+7/-0)

Well said dangus, the last 2 times he posted that filth it was postop tranny crotch shots and seniors porn. That douchebag is a confirmed degenerate. It takes a sick mind to hunt that shit down to post on any site like he does. You need to address that problem system. His followers may downvote me, but this something I have been wanting to say ever since he told people on here that it was "my frontpage", that's taking some liberty.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:11:43 ago (+1/-0)

Exactly

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 11:28:03 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Trumpman1488 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:07:36 ago (+0/-0)

Explain then why reddit grew so much while still having fucked up subs like jailbail.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:13:59 ago (+1/-0)

It's a completely different crowd.

[ - ] Trumpman1488 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:47:09 ago (+1/-1)

Voat crowd are snowflakes?

[ - ] TheMan -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 14:06:19 ago (+0/-1)

It's nice to see you are fine with banning someone who chases users off a site with their despicable and unacceptable behavior.
It's why you were and continue to be banned at Poal.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:34:23 ago (+1/-0)

Sweet, sweet poalsmoker tears. I require more.

[ - ] Monica 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:27:08 ago (+4/-0)

toobaditworks was banned for pointing out people spamming the site and taking over the frontpage.

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:33:39 ago (+2/-1)

The truth is he was banned for spam, which you could have easily found out yourself by checking his profile.

Next.

[ - ] Monica 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:46:59 ago (+4/-1)*

toobaditworks: "Why are less than 1 percent of voat/talk population 90 percent of the frontpage?"

Then the "spam" says "@Leafaeat cock you fucking spamming faggot. die.eat cock you fucking spamming faggot. die.eat cock you fucking spamming faggot. "

You call that spam... I call that freespeech and pointing out a spamming faggot. I didn't see any rules saying free speech was limited to saying it once per post.

He was tired of YOU not banning Leafa and the other frontpage spammer and talked shit to that spammer and posted about the spammer.

But here it is right in front of you and you still blame the users who tried to bring attention to the spam.

YOU protected the spammers and BANNED users bringing attention to it.

[ - ] Monica 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:43:44 ago (+1/-0)

What did it say?

[ - ] beece 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:44:13 ago (+3/-0)

I upvoated it simply because the person cared enough came back and shared what appeared to be their honest thoughts. I believe that you should be engaging and sorting it out system, not calling bullshit and calling them a little bitch. But that's me, do what you will. I remember a couple of Blumens post that some folks complained about, and I didn't see pedophilia. Stupidity sure, but not pedo.

[ - ] rage 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:00:13 ago (+4/-0)

OGVoat & NuVoat both appear to have suffered similar consequences of overly emotional admin decision making.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:41:55 ago (+0/-0)

I think you see that at almost all discussion forums where the admins are public and posting. It's one of the pitfalls of operating this way.

[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:37:54 ago (+1/-1)

"I believe that you should be engaging and sorting it out system, not calling bullshit and calling them a little bitch"

And this comment has up votes?

Why in the FUCK is the owner/admin not supposed to defend himself from false allegations (assuming that's the reality, and judging by systems rather thorough reply I'd say it's a fair one)?

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:29:31 ago (+1/-0)

Who is ALS?

[ - ] QuasiVoat 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:43:36 ago (+2/-1)

AntiLiberalSociety. Was an old goat; briefly went to poal. Generally cantankerous, fond of the downgoat button.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 18:20:21 ago (+1/-0)

Oh, yeah, that guy was difficult to deal with

[ - ] oursenilepresident -2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:12:38 ago (+1/-3)

AntiLiberalSociety is also JB5 (JosephGoebbels5) https://consumeproduct.win/u/JosephGoebbels5/ , a very high IQ anti-erotica zealot, who was banned for vote and rule violations twice on voat.xyz, banned once on (((Ruqqus)).

He downvoted my valuable content so much , over 340 times in one week or so, that eventually I and other intellectuals left this site. He even downvoted my Jew Naming memes I made. Some think he has a lot of traits that Feds share.

ALS smacktalks talk.lol and system all over the other free speech sites calling voat ( pedo.lol ), maliciously and partly lying about why he was banned twice.

Personally, if it was not for his destruction by starting 'divide and conquer' user fights over free speech vs. erotica in NSFW subforums, he would be more of a net-positive. His destruction is throughout this thread you are in this second, as a alt named TwiceBanned.

https://www.voat.xyz/profile?user=TwiceBanned

his downvoting chased away many intellectuals, with disenchantment and I think he selectively identified and targeted this sites intellectuals to cripple the site. Peculiar, because I can assure you that he exudes a high IQ vibe to me, himself.

@system needs to ban the ALS cancer now and ban TwiceBanned (als) a third time

[ - ] ShitAlt 3 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:11:23 ago (+3/-0)

Terrific, delete and repost is back again. Still trying to farm upvotes @try ?

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:10:55 ago (+2/-1)

Lol you retarded bitch. No. Not ALS. GreenSmoke, GreenSlug. And you can lie about it all you want. Everyone that was here knows it, no one that wasnt matters. If they still think you did the right thing, you deserve the losers that are still here. The sites dying, and you are why, and that event is why and everyone knows it.

Like i said, i dont plan to stay around, the place is shit, thanks to your bullshit and the faggots you let stay.

[ - ] system [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:20:30 ago (+1/-1)

So you're not ALS

GreenSmoke, GreenSlug.

And I've never seen these usernames in my life, those usernames are available here.

Literally no idea who you are or what you are going on about. You've provided no details or substance to your claims, and you continue to avoid doing that after I responded back to you point by point.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 14:54:02 ago (+0/-0)

Your dishonesty speaks far far more than anything else.

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:00:44 ago (+2/-1)

[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:37:54 ago (+0/-0)

Considering I'm not the admin responsible for the banning of both my old accounts, who knows what youve done to them.

Wow such an appeal to authority that can not be checked by anyone you make, hooooowwww very convincing!

Absolutely pathetic, and you reveal your own untrustworthiness by it.

Fact is, YOU banned me for calling out your pedo protection. I remade an account to continue calling you out, you banned me again, because youd rather protect pedo content than keep good users around. Look what you have wrought. Youve killed the place. Congratulations. Lie about it if you think you'll feel better. But no one that was here for it buys your bullshit and it shows, this place is done because the only people here who dont know what a pathetic liar you are, are the people who just left reddit, waaaay behind the curve.

"You avoid clearing this up" no, you keep making nonsense points asking for details for an event that was what, 2 years ago? Sorry, i left after you made it clear you are a kiddie fucker friend. You chose your associates. Youve decided, fuck America and everything it stands for, you decided you like the jews version better. Where everyone has ultimate freedom to be as degenerate as they want! You are a god damn disgrace to the notion of freedom, where decent people knew where the limits were, and still had freedom.

Your degenerate jewish filth is an abomination and dowa not represent America, decency, western civilization, white heritage, NONE OF IT!
You delusional kike puppet.

[ - ] TardWhisperer 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:33:51 ago (+1/-1)

All you have to do is link to or state the account which you claim you were banned on. But you can't because you are AntiLiberalSociety and that would make you a liar from your previous comments. Which you are, ALS, a liar. Sure you may have been GreenSmoke too, this sounds like ALS: https://searchvoat.co/v/whatever/1339942

There is no Child Porn on this site but I bet you can see some in the room or basement you are in right now.

[ - ] Centaurus 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 20:27:18 ago (+1/-1)

He has no intention of clearing anything up. Quit wasting your time bantering with him.

You should block him so you don't have to read his posts anymore.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 16:42:22 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] AOUsYamaka 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:46:54 ago (+5/-1)

He supports the wrong people and let’s them influence his moderation decisions. It’s bizarre.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:57:37 ago (+5/-1)

He made it VERY VERY clear that he would rather hangout with a bunch of pedophiles swapping nearly illegal pictures, and protect them, by banning literally everyone who called it what it is (pedophile content, and him supporting it being allowed makes him a pedophile enthusiast himself) than do the right thing and just be rid of the degenerate jewish bullshit.

"Oy vey, if you delete my post and ban me for posting naked children, you are an evil anti free speech censorship lover! Reeeeeeeee!"

"Hey, lets ban the child porn and just be done with it. No one here wants to see it. No one here wants to associate with it or anyone that posts it. If you want it to remain, you must be a pedophile, clearly."

"Reeeeeeeeeeeee you are all banned! Just not you, people posting pedophile content, you can stay."

This is an accurate retelling of the moment system killed nuvoat

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:28:20 ago (+4/-0)

I've never seen any of these posts that get people banned. I wish I had so I could judge for myself.

[ - ] SeanBox 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:08:36 ago (+2/-0)

I got banned just for calling @system a weak bitch. Made me stop participating.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:19:51 ago (+1/-0)

It was a long time ago. It boils down to, blumen posts pedo content, everyone but the local retards want it banned. System bans everyone for calling it pedo content and pretends he did the right thing, for freedom. System is a pedo sympathizer that would rather have blumens pedo content over basically the entire soul of old voat.

[ - ] rage 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:46:33 ago (+3/-0)

Justin said "Voat is just a social experiment".

Now, I'm very curious why system left this key piece out.

[ - ] account deleted by user 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:06:18 ago (+5/-1)

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[ - ] Broc_Liath 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:30:35 ago (+4/-0)

Simple solution would have been ban content sexualizing children and prevent users from making their own subs and have them request it. So say I am new user. I am interested in Gay ASCII art. Grant the sub and if I post Gay ASCII in sub jewconspiracy let the mods in jewconspiracy ban my ass from jewconspiracy and delete the post. Hand over more control to the moderators and not posting tied to points it's being abused.

I agree, I think child sexualisation is a reasonable line in the sand to draw.

I also fully support sub-monarchism as the best solution to the free speech problem.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:11:18 ago (+1/-0)

Agreed; we don't need that shit here. The world is full of GloboPedo crap and one thing that can differentiate this site is making degenerate shit unacceptable.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:21:23 ago (+0/-0)

Exactly. But myself and many others got banned for holding this stance. And the faggot pedo is here still trying to lie about it.

[ - ] rage 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:59:02 ago (+4/-0)

Poal's solution to this was to make downvotes visible to everyone. It weeded out the obvious bad actors immediately.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:34:59 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] rage 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:38:32 ago (+0/-0)

Something is better than nothing.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:24:08 ago (+0/-0)

Which means shills don't know
its happening, giving the regular user an advantage.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:17:09 ago (+0/-0)

account deleted by user

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:53:10 ago (+0/-0)

I study what gets censored on the Internet. I am on nearly every platform.

Your Poal hate is weird because there are plenty of other similar services to whine about.

Why not hate on Phuks?

Because it isn't competition.

Your agenda seems a bit obvious, don't you think?

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 14:09:52 ago (+0/-0)

account deleted by user

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 17:40:46 ago (+0/-0)

Hey, fuckface, you specifically downvote me so that I can't make any new posts.

If I had enough fake karma/Mossad Approval, I could actually use this site.

As it stands, it's unusable.

My name is to bring attention to propaganda tech issues. Unsurprising you're too fucking stupid to get it.

This is an unusable site and everyone is acting like it's a mystery why.

[ - ] QuasiVoat 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:40:43 ago (+2/-1)

I know we all hate Poal but @system this really, really needs to happen. As much as people pretend not to care about internet points, nearly everyone does, as evidenced by that they use the up and downvote buttons.

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:45:36 ago (+2/-0)

I really like this idea. I think it would eliminate many problems.

[ - ] QuasiVoat -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:52:26 ago (+0/-1)

:-)

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:12:04 ago (+1/-0)

This was an option early at voat that was rarely implemented. You had to tick the box, no one did. I generally don't downvote something unless it's bad, really bad, because downvotes don't really do anything. Look at dial, he's still here tugging away. Even at reddit the downvotes and the bans didn't really do anything meaningful.

Old voat required a 100 pts before you could downvote, I always felt it should be more. And it only allowed 10 upvotes a day which meant you had to be there for at least 10 days until........I think that system worked, somewhat.

Searchvoat has this option already although I don't think anyone uses it.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:30:52 ago (+2/-0)

That system didn't work, because the Q tards accumulated karma to survive massive downvotes and monopolize that ability against new users and dissenters.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:19:48 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:51:23 ago (+0/-0)

I agree it is still used against new users and dissenters. It's a problem.

I have been here since Day 1.

I was on Poal since day 1.

I was on Voat since day 1.

I just don't like namefagging unless I have to.

[ - ] Monica 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:23:14 ago (+4/-0)

I was banned for this: "You let the trolls stay and shit the place up, but then ban and silence the people who speak against the trolls"

[ - ] UrCoolerOlderBrother 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:09:17 ago (+2/-0)

Please elaborate. What happened? Be specific. What were you banned for? And what CP were you talking about?

[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:24:18 ago (+2/-0)

I was banned for calling system a pedo sympathizer for standing up for and banning others who spoke against blumen and the degenerate child porn they post. System still defends blumen and the degenerate child child. There are still users currently actively calling for the, rightful, banning of said degenerate posts.

System is a pedo protector. Its that simple. The degenerate shit isnt free speech, even if it was, pure freedom is fucking stupid concept anyways, and the degenerate child porn should be banned.

[ - ] TardWhisperer -2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:38:17 ago (+0/-2)

The child porn... it's EVERYWHERE I TELL YOU!

If you see it every where, you are a closet pedophile.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:39:58 ago (+0/-0)

If you dont see it in the material thats being discussed, then you are degenerate trash and you see nothing even when its right infront of you.

If you dont know what the material being discussed is, maybe shut the fuck up about shit you dont know about? Be glad you dont know? Let the people who do know talk without your braindead faggot mouth spouting off?

[ - ] TardWhisperer -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:47:15 ago (+1/-2)

I've seen v/MarkRyden there isn't any child porn there. You are demented.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:49:05 ago (+1/-0)

Your opinion is wholly without value if thats what you "dont see". You are not worth the effort to attempt to redeem

[ - ] TardWhisperer -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:53:46 ago (+1/-2)

There is nothing sexual about any of it. All it is is drawn and painted nudity. If you get sexually aroused by that material - that makes you a pedophile. I think you should kill yourself.

I have noticed you did not reply to my comment to you where I called you a liar. All you have to do is give the usernames you were banned under...

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:57:24 ago (+1/-0)

Already gave the usernames you retarded pedophile. System wants to pretend they were never used? There is literally nothing i can do to prove it beyond the memories of the people who were here at the time. Im not the admin. I dont have access to people accounts to clean sweep delete them and make them look empty.

The names were given. System showed he is a pathetic little liar, and everyone who was around back then knows it.

So, if it doesnt make YOU hard, it isnt child porn? You are saying child porn DOES make you hard? Way to admit to everyone that you are infact a pedophile.

[ - ] TardWhisperer -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 20:00:27 ago (+1/-2)

Neither of those names were ever active here so they could have never been banned from here. Lie better next time pedo. You used talk.loli just like ALS. Not fooling anyone dude.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:25:05 ago (+1/-0)

The only one I can clearly remember was a drawing of a naked girl wearing a TV as a skirt. It wasn't very realistic and I think it was some kind of commentary on the power of the media.

[ - ] Mopar_or_nocar24 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:34:52 ago (+2/-0)

Just like libertarianism, unlimited freedom IS ACTUALLY A BAD THING

Based and Authority pilled.

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[ - ] Broc_Liath 9 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:00:07 ago (+12/-3)

I'm sorry to hear wiggle's being demodded. I think he was being sincere, although pinning an opinionated post was a bad move.

I think you're doing a good job for what it's worth. I've strongly disagreed with some of your decisions but overall you seem to be trying to do the right thing.

Hard to say why user numbers are declining, I don't think it's you or the site. Could be people are just focussing harder on IRL stuff, these are tough times.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:09:13 ago (+3/-0)

What exactly did he pin?

[ - ] Broc_Liath 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:21:17 ago (+3/-0)

It's still up I think. Another user put up a callout thread accusing the users criticising christianity of being jews. He pinned it.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:32:48 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] mikenigger 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:46:37 ago (+4/-2)

trannies can't be jannies

[ - ] rage 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:03:16 ago (+3/-1)

Hiring someone statistically more likely to commit suicide than not is not a wise decision for any manager.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:19:02 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:40:39 ago (+0/-0)

So what? We need to cuck to optics?

The only way we won't get attacked is if we're harmless, in which case what's the point?

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:51:22 ago (+2/-0)

The entire reason I was drawn to Voat was the fact that there was an obvious "We don't cuck to optics" agreement among the community. I mean...calling everyone a niggerfaggot? It was both hilarious and genius.

I think part of, if not most, of why we're currently demoralized is that a lot of what we did worked. Not that hollywood movies got based...but that people largely stopped watching those movies. The comment sections on youtube are now largely based. Being based became pretty popular. At least online, if not in the real world and still we got Trump and corony.

The feeling I have is one of "Wow...we actually showed everyone what's going on and who and how and why and yet...there they go on the same path..." I personally went from trying to save the world to trying to save MY world.

I also have reached a point where I fundamentally don't give a shit if 75% of humanity suffers at this point, in fact, they've shown they really, REALLY deserve it. I would go so far to say that was the most fundamental reason for the Trump and Corony operations...to give "the masses" the chance to show they deserve it and for us to see it.

It's like I could fight for humanity, but I already did. Most of my energy these days comes from having the gumption to fight for my own since of dignity and that of the small group of people I think deserve my efforts. And it's a VERY short list of people.

Still...I'd like to think that the old "power users" of old Voat still valued the conversations we could have here amongst each other. I'm still not getting why THAT isn't happening. Like a smaller version of old Voat, but still very high quality.

[ - ] Wolfspider 8 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:12:55 ago (+8/-0)

I can have an open house and let anyone in that wants in. If some of them start intentionally vandalizing it, shitting on the floors, spray painting the walls, stealing things all just to fuck with me and the other people there, then I would escort them out.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:31:52 ago (+1/-0)

I made this exact point before i was banned.

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 08:14:08 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] ForgottenMemes 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:37:14 ago (+7/-0)

Well why is it dwindling?

Same reason all free speech platforms fail. There is no variety to the content. It's only what can't be said elsewhere. You're not going to come here to talk about gardening, the latest Ashes of Creation news, or look at grills in bikinis, you come here to say nigger and the holohoax is a lie. And if you're interested in vidya or fapping you'll get attacked by the purity spiraling fools who are happy to hate niggers and kikes all day every day.

No normalfags will ever come here, no one with a differing opinion at all will stay.

Reddit did one thing right back in the day, the default subs were ultra normie shit. Pics, news, sports, vidya, etc. These were heavily moderated and normalfag friendly. You could say nigger back then, or talk about how the holohoax was fake, but you had to take it to a non-default sub.

I'm not going to send my brother links here because he'll immediately get slapped with "gas the kikes race war now" and be annoyed. He was a big the_donald guy, so if where was some slightly less INYOURFACE right wing politics. He'd probably love this site.

The solution is to make about a dozen default subs, moderate them to be free speech, but "civil" and get people to post regularly enough that there's several new items every hour in each of them.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:03:38 ago (+3/-0)

Good insight. I came to old Voat when I read some jewmedia article talking about how 'the Q sub' on reddit got banned and Q told people to go to Voat. I didn't know much about Q, got curious and went to that sub. I hung out awhile, but soon realized that the Qtards were a lost cause. However, the 'negative' interaction between Qtards and other members of Voat got me interested in looking at other stuff. Soon I wasn't even bothering with the Qtard circle-jerks as I had found much more interesting, and realistic, stuff to interact with.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:30:38 ago (+7/-0)

I blame the lurkers.

They're too gay to defend themselves anyway.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:35:29 ago (+0/-0)

That's why fags like it in the ass. They're always running away and their gaping anus is the first hole an attacker sees.

[ - ] oldblo 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:04:46 ago (+7/-0)

I personally like the site and hope it stays for many many years.
If you want it to grow it needs advertisement.
I presume people would prefer not to risk bringing in strangers who might shit up the place. The bigger the attention the more those with an active investment in destroying a nice place like this take notice.
If you want a helping hand on the code side of things talk to the userbase. There are competent people here.
Just be sure to act with caution and keep a backup of everything.

[ - ] v0atmage 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:01:48 ago (+7/-0)*

Is it the site itself?

That's definitely not it. It's not like voat.co was feature rich (and it definitely was less stable than tlol). I think the splintering after voat.co is just really hard to recover from. Goats are now scattered among many platforms (telegram, poal, gab, etc.). Losing the HDL crowd here didn't help either but I understand why you didn't capitulate to them. I appreciate your minimalist take on managing the website but I also think you need some community driven policing for it not to turn into a pedo infested kike dystopia. Side note: I would consider adding features to the website if it were possible to do so.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 8 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:25:28 ago (+8/-0)

IMO, the place died when system sided with pedoscum against the community and started banning people for speaking against the pedo support. They already decided the place wasnt a pure free speech platform with no bans or censorship, but they decided the people who got banned were the ones speaking against the degeneracy, not the ones posting it. And its still that way isnt it? The pedo poster and trolls are still here, and everyone else is leaving...

[ - ] deleted 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 11:32:02 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:02:00 ago (+4/-0)

Im using this account til system bans me again. Like he banned me several times before for calling out the degenerate bullshit.

Yes, system allows pedophiles to post barely censored child porn. Havent heard if the new guy posting it got banned, but, blumen is still here and active yea? And tons of us got banned and arnt anymore yea? Thats system deciding thay blumen is the better user for posting their child porn than the rest of us who called it out.

If system bans that shit now, why didn't he then? Whyd he run off the majority of the users first in favor of the pedo content, just to later finally do the right thing, after they already banned everyone else.

[ - ] UrCoolerOlderBrother 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:19:03 ago (+2/-0)

What did Blumen post and why?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:30:51 ago (+5/-0)

Blumen posted a lot of art by this dude Mark Ryden. Its not exactly CP but its sick shit that makes people angry when they look at it. He claims he was making some free speech point. Alot of people, including myself, urged system to axe him. ALS/Antiliberalsociety/TwiceBanned was the most vocal. System wouldn’t and ALS left. Here’s the offending stuff. https://www.talk.lol/v/MarkRyden Anyway he stopped doing it mostly so most of us let it go. I did anyway.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:29:35 ago (+2/-0)

Not als ya vapid whore. You and I argued on our own plenty.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:08:41 ago (+1/-0)

Does your mom play the digerido?

[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:28:16 ago (+1/-0)

Nope.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:43:03 ago (+1/-0)

You don’t want to tell me who you are? Mystery man huh?

You and I argued on our own plenty.

That just does not narrow it down at all.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:27:19 ago (+4/-0)

IIRC Blumen got into a beef with somebody. He then started posting barely legal kiddie porn to make some sort of stupid point to that person. The kiddie porn issue took on a life of it's own and he has been labeled a pedo ever since.

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[ - ] we_kill_creativity 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:40:14 ago (+5/-1)

Losing the HDL crowd here didn't help either but I understand why you didn't capitulate to them.

Can you expand on this? What was the issue and how were they wanting system to "capitulate"?

[ - ] v0atmage 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:48:24 ago (+4/-0)

See the comment from @TwiceBanned. The HDL crowd wanted stricter rules on loli and pedo posting. When system didn't agree with their premise, they all collectively left to some other platform.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:52:32 ago (+8/-1)

He also banned SBBH. I can understand banning gabara for spam/vote manipulation, but banning them all was just guilt by association. Honestly surprised I wasn't banned in that wave: I hang out with them on other platforms.

[ - ] v0atmage 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:58:37 ago (+3/-0)

That's true, it was heavy handed, but he did rescind that ban eventually.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:42:59 ago (+3/-0)

I did notice the sub for reporting them was deleted, presumably much to mikenigger's chagrin. I wasn't aware he lifted the ban though.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:04:04 ago (+4/-0)

I didnt leave and wasnt part of HDL, but yes you are correct. I was literally banned and forced to leave, twice, because i wouldnt shut up and let system protect the pedophiles without getting any pushback.

[ - ] system [op] 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:11:35 ago (+4/-1)

They wanted porn gone completely. I refused, as voat.co allowed porn. They are the reason the adult tag exists.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:59:37 ago (+0/-0)

What platform did they go to?

[ - ] NationalSocialism 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:54:10 ago (+3/-0)

I listen to tlolocaust from time to time. I appreciate you and dangus for taking the time out to do it each week. You can code as well?

[ - ] v0atmage 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:01:33 ago (+5/-0)

I listen to tlolocaust from time to time. I appreciate you and dangus for taking the time out to do it each week.

Thanks! Sadly the recording for yesterday got fucked up so no podcast for this weekend. I think the jews did it.

You can code as well?

Yes, I am a developer by trade, although I wouldn't say reddit clones are my forte.


[ - ] NationalSocialism 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:24:09 ago (+3/-0)

Yes, I am a developer by trade, although I wouldn't say reddit clones are my forte.

I’m in favor of you having more input in to this site. You seem unbiased on many topics, but ultimately (why everyone is here) against clownworld in all forms. Clearly, you are passionate about having this site succeed. @system

[ - ] Monica 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:54:14 ago (+1/-0)

I can code reddit in my sleep.

[ - ] v0atmage 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:59:57 ago (+2/-0)

Great! Now fix those markdown parsing bugs on the double!

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 18:25:27 ago (+0/-0)

Where did Hiddenlol go?

[ - ] v0atmage 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 18:33:36 ago (+0/-0)

I tried checking searchvoat.co to dig up where they headed off to, but couldn't nail it down. If you really care just post to /v/asktalk and someone would know.

[ - ] Ifuckdolphinseverday 5 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:54:17 ago (+5/-0)

Losing my pet eft was somehow the universes way of foreshadowing the loss of my eternal companion. I have no words. I've been dead inside for years and she was the reason i kept going. Now that she is gone i just don't feel any need to continue, I've lost all hope and contrary to my prior assertions i feel no liberation only despair.

When everyone and everything you love around you dies, i suppose its good indication for my time too. Just the coward last in line and i hate myself for being here alone. For lying to myself that living another day was somehow a battle worth fighting and its this delusion of borrowed time that i now balance on.

Spend time with your loved ones. Have children now don't put it off. Make sure you tell them you love them every day, you'll never know when it will be the last time.

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 6 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:26:58 ago (+6/-0)*

It tells me that free speech cannot survive on it's own and needs to be coddled.

No, it’s simply a mischaracterization of the argument. Without protection, truth is drowned in lies. That’s the point. Fuck free speech. Not all speech is equal because not all statements are true. If not all speech is equal, some speech is objectively better. If that speech is attacked from all sides, it must be protected so as not to be silenced. Like white people. Go see how long a neighborhood lasts if it’s being raided by rape gangs every night without even the pretense of defense in its name. That’s why this site is dying. It’s why Voat died. It’s why every other site predicated on “free speech” died. Because instead of banning things that are wrong, we let them in, which makes it no better than the sites that ban what is right. I’ve been saying this shit for years. Also your formatting is preventing me from using paragraphs. It just deletes the entire post instead. As though it was never posted.

[ - ] system [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:35:39 ago (+2/-3)

No, it’s simply a mischaracterization of the argument. Without protection, truth is drowned in lies. That’s the point. Fuck free speech. Not all speech is equal because not all statements are true. If not all speech is equal, some speech is objectively better. If that speech is attacked from all sides, it must be protected so as not to be silenced. Like white people. Go see how long a neighborhood lasts if it’s being raided by rape gangs every night without even the pretense of defense in its name. That’s why this site is dying. It’s why Voat died. It’s why every other site predicated on “free speech” died. Because instead of banning things that are wrong, we let them in, which makes it no better than the sites that ban what is right. I’ve been saying this shit for years. Also your formatting is preventing me from using paragraphs. It just deletes the entire post instead. As though it was never posted.


You see ALS spewing lies with no substance and getting upvoted despite what happened in reality, so you are correct as fuck. Regardless I still believe what I believe. Will the truth shine through? Who knows, that's part of the fun. Let's find out.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:28:26 ago (+3/-0)

Reeeee everyone that still remembers my bullshit must be ALS reeeeee. Jesus, you really are pathetic arnt you?

[ - ] taoV 6 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:37:43 ago (+6/-0)

My theory on user numbers is that part of it is stale content. Voat had waves of different groups that led to lots of content and debate. People who were good contributors to other sites got kicked off, whent to Voat, and brought their other interests with them. I used to love the gardening and DIY stuff. Now the main attraction is finding out what the jews did today. I'm going to look for some way to contribute something in terms of content, and hope other people do the same. It disrupts the trolls too, becuase then they have to decide which bridges to fling shit from.

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:57:40 ago (+2/-0)

My theory on user numbers is that part of it is stale content. Voat had waves of different groups that led to lots of content and debate. People who were good contributors to other sites got kicked off, whent to Voat, and brought their other interests with them. I used to love the gardening and DIY stuff. Now the main attraction is finding out what the jews did today. I'm going to look for some way to contribute something in terms of content, and hope other people do the same. It disrupts the trolls too, becuase then they have to decide which bridges to fling shit from.

Yeah the internet was a different beast back then. Everyone has found their corner of the internet or a different way to cope, so that enthusiasm is gone. The internet in general is getting stale. That's not a bad thing.

[ - ] taoV 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:38:57 ago (+1/-0)

Point well taken. I still see some value in this though, in the mean time.

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:16:52 ago (+1/-0)

Why engage on a website where the admin values pedo posters and pointless trolls far more than people who only ever posted content and had deep long discussions dozens upon dozens of comments deep? Why be active on a website where the admin is very clearly lying hoping that all the old users actually are gone so none of the new users can call out the BS?

Its pathetic. Pretending things didnt happen the way they did, pretending people who were there weren't. Its pathetic. System is sitting in a busted down rotten trailer home, with three pedophile bums, blaming all his woes on boogeymen.

Cant even be man enough to tell the truth about my former accounts, that the faggot kiddie fucker personally banned cuz his little child touching feelings got hurt. It's like i said, the people that were here will remember me, none of the new people matter, and if system is so dishonest he wants to lie about it, he deserves the disaster that hes created.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 15:54:49 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 16:09:44 ago (+1/-0)

This concept that "well the jewdicial system says its ok, so it must be ok!" Is absolutely degenerate.

You people that cling to this are not worth saving. The only thing that matters to you degenerates is the legality of something, nevermind the morality of it. If the jews tell you its fine, then you are fine with it. Absolutely pathetic.

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:00:28 ago (+1/-0)

This notion you, and other retarded faggots, have, that because you yourself are doing nothing of importance, then everyone you ever talk to online is also doing nothing, is fucking retarded.

We get it, you are a useless faggot that feels like nothing matters so you do nothing but bitch online. Guess what? No matter how hard you project, that doesnt mean everyone else is as much of a loser as you are.

You have no idea what I do to further the cause, nor will i tell you what i do. You have no idea who i speak with, who i work with, and what we do to fix the problems. Though you make it abundantly clear that you do nothing and assume everyone is a do nothing faggot like yourself.

It just isnt true. And it would be absolutely retarded for me to tell you what it is i do.

[ - ] deleted -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 21:40:53 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] TwiceBanned 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 21:50:53 ago (+1/-0)

Not at all what I do. Where do you get the notion that that is what I do?

[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:21:52 ago (+5/-0)

I too have the clown world fatigue.
I rarely bother to check any of the news now, since it is literally the same shit over and over, from both sides of the aisle.
My time now isn’t really spent on the internet like before. There are far more important things to be doing with my time.

It’s not the site nor you

[ - ] AryanPrime 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:22:32 ago (+5/-1)

Maybe if you understood the most basic fact of all

Jews subvert...you created something that is antithetical to the global jewish world order...the idea that idea's can be freely discussed...because then you might decide to start discussing the global jewish world order.

Anything that is antithetical to the jewish world order will be brigaded, posts will be downvoted, handshakes will gaslight and threaten people both online and IRL, they will attempt to get you onto a third party site, usually with malware, that will allow them to either "See your face" or "have your location" and then all of a sudden weird shit starts happening to those people IRL.

This is why you see a high amount of anti-Christian rhetoric on this site, because many people who wake up to the jewish world order start looking into Christianity and find many jewish lies subverting the narrative about it, a couple of examples

1) Christianity is anti-usury/anti-race mixing/anti-pharisee. Talmudic babylonian "jews" are the pharisee spoken of in the bible. To say "Jesus was a jew" is to fundamentally not understand the story of Jesus, in fact, to say that, you have to understand it, and actively and maliciously usurp it by promoting a false narrative.
2) The term "christcuck" is used specifically against Christians to try and gaslight them into thinking Christianity "worships" a jew, when in fact, the bible calls on Christians to wage war against "The pharisee". Anyone who uses this term is specifically trying to demoralize Christians on here.

The real problem I suspect, is that there is a truth in this reality that people are too afraid of staring in the face. That so long as you seek truth, kikes will stoop to any level to gaslight/distract people from coming to Jesus

Really think about it...look at White people in America

Jesus promotes big families - jews hate Whites having big families
Jesus promotes loving your neighbour - jews hate non Whites looking at Whites with anything but distain and hatred, so they promote that so Whites no longer treat non Whites as "neighbours" aka promoting racial hatred

Jesus promotes following the laws of God, not man - jews hate the idea of White societies promoting God's law because then they can't rape children without being shot on sight.

Jesus promotes having faith in him because he is the true "child of god" - jews constantly pretend to be the "children of god" aka chosen people to try and trick god into giving him their blessing (yes they actually believe god exists, is all knowing, but they can trick him...yes these people are psychotic). They hate the idea of knowledge of jesus still existing because then there is a counter claim against their "we are the most loved of god" argument.

Many people on this site wanted a site free of pornography...it's not like it isn't hard to find if you want it...and yet people purposefully come on and post that shit...

Porn is how kikes mock jesus, promoting porn is promoting the mockery of jesus

That's why your user base is "dwindling" people are looking for a pro-Christian world view and community...far too many people openly mocking it here so they left, and new ones are not coming in

However, you fundamentally fail to realize why that is a problem...because for the last 2 years the book of revelation has had quite a few "coincidences" appear IRL, enough in fact that people are actively seeking a more Christian messaging in anything they view.


To finalize and summarize...free speech can work fine when arguments are made "In Good Faith" which means you don't argue something you don't believe in to be true, and if you are shown evidence that your belief is mistaken, youshould change it

however, with jews knowingly and maliciously lying aka chutzpah, is it any wonder these people use the idea of others believing in "In Good Faith" mindsets to gaslight people...like for example, trying to provide an "official looking" source of information to convince others to change their mind, when in fact it's nothing but a surface level fabrication?

I would say if you want to improve this site...educate yourself on what most "liberal jews" promote, and ban the promotion of that...just as a test mind you...see if my theory is right

Ban the promotion of feminism/black nationalism/non White immigration to White countries/racemixing/pornography/anti-White rhetoric in general/Jesus was a jew lie/


the idea that khazarians (aka ashkenazi) have anything to do with the bible, they in fact manipulated it after the fact to their own benefit, they converted to judism in 742.AD. The "old testament" that you have been presented with is just talmudic belief structure cleverly disguised due to, over time, having it's text slowly injected and the old text removed.

I'm willing to bet a million monopoly dollars your site gets better if you do that...by promotion I obviously don't mean sarcasm, but constant and consistent behavior promoting these things or trying to shame/gaslight anyone who is promoting Christian morals and values.(however many "instances" would constitute "consistent behavior" i dunno you pick your site lol)

It's time to pick a side. Either promote jewish ideology or reject it, the "userbase" is determined by that.

Gab has decided to reject it...is doing very very well...take note.

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[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:29:53 ago (+0/-1)

upvoted you. I guess living in a log cabin far from the madding crowd makes a man more tolerant. Human beings complain about anything and everything 'cos it's in our nature. Even if some state of being is 99% satisfactory we'd still bitch endlessly about the 1%. Sorry for bringing my wife into it.

[ - ] Ragnar 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:02:20 ago (+4/-0)

Bruh, you are being way too philosophical and deep here. I am not saying you shouldn’t be or it’s bad, just that people like me with real life problems come to this site to chill and get our news in a fun relaxed fashion. After a hectic day or week where I have to censor every fucking word coming out my mouth, and have to deal with a lot of family responsibilities, I just want to come here and be able to speak my mind and laugh at all the uncensored jokes.

I think you are doing a great job keeping this site afloat, and nobody cares about the features. I hope you keep this running for many years.

Anyway, sad re demodding. Mr. Sparkles is a good boy.

[ - ] paul_neri -2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:24:58 ago (+0/-2)

Now Ragnar...just breathe deep and hold off on the love-outpouring for once and tell me why sparkles lost his job. Something to do with a post he made?

[ - ] Thought_Criminal 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:21:47 ago (+4/-0)

"Are just people just tired of the constant barrage of news that comes out of a dystopian society? This I believe is the case. Sometimes I suffer from clown world fatigue and force myself to visit just to check up on things."
+1

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[ - ] beece 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:41:21 ago (+4/-0)

Interesting, that was user Trys parting take @ 6 months back.

[ - ] JurassicFart 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:27:05 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] oldblo 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:35:54 ago (+0/-0)

I still cant get over how try in all seriousness used his alt as an example of how the site was controlled by disruptive jews. I guess someone thought the info being on two different sites meant no one would ever notice the whole thing.

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[ - ] system [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 07:38:59 ago (+2/-3)

FREEZE PEACH!!

Oh look, an SRS reddit tranny.

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[ - ] system [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:29:17 ago (+1/-2)

Bend the knee to God or fuck off.

"God". Who's god? My god or yours? You can't authoritatively enforce good morals. That leads to a dark and bleak place. Humanity has to want it, and that time will come. Your desire to lick boots, as long as they are "holy boots" worn by a "good tyrant" makes me sick.

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[ - ] system [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:33:33 ago (+1/-2)

Actually I can.

If you have the ability to feel superior while ignoring the whole "dark and bleak place", sure, for a time.

Doesn't seem like you've learned anything from history. You hate this country and what it stands for, don't you?

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[ - ] system [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:44:25 ago (+1/-2)

Ignore it? Why would I ignore it? I'd fucking embrace it because a dark and bleak moral world is always better than a bright and vibrant degenerate fucking New Babylon.


You use the same justifications as the rich losers in this world who call for a new world order. Think you are all superior and know better than everyone else? Why aren't you on their side? Maybe you are? Either way I spit in your face just like I spit in theirs. You worship the wrong god, the evil one. You are scum.

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[ - ] Centaurus 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:41:25 ago (+3/-0)

It seems like certain people want to bring back the old voat, and all of its bad aspects as well. The harassment is retarded, and the whining is too. It forces everybody to police themselves so as not to get the attention of the loudmouths (who in my opinion are no different than their left wing counterparts). As to why more people haven't gravitated to here since the end of old voat, your guess is as good as mine. Maybe part of the problem is that people do not even know this site exists. But how do you advertise for a site such as voat? I have to know someone pretty well, and be convinced they are not shining me on, before I would mention voat -- old voat or new voat. We are pretty hardcore. There aren't many of us around, percentage wise. Think of all the retards who still use sites such as Fakebook and Twit-er, even after they know how evil those fuckers are. The planet is a stinking shithole.

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[ - ] dulcima 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:29:40 ago (+1/-0)

The world seems on a precipice so it could all change. A major natural disaster for instance would wake up people, and fast. No one would want to deal with trannie garbage.

There's also Civil wars or putin going nuclear too.

[ - ] zr855 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:41:48 ago (+3/-0)

Place seems pretty good to me. The bigger sites have people creating content and less people discouraging women from joining. Essentially bread and circus works for a reason.

[ - ] Version6 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:36:38 ago (+3/-0)

Plainly, its the lack of posts. Users need to post more. Including me.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:20:26 ago (+1/-0)

Same here bro, i comment, rarely do i make a post.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:26:19 ago (+3/-0)*

Really appreciate the free speech, and the site is technically really nice.

Those who wish to destroy a free speech site use the same tactics, calls for violence, illegal material, and lastly bad quality posts, stressing the owner.

Consider though lives have been save by some of the content sharing.

Calling leftist groomers preventing harm to children, warning of the side effects of the mRNA Vax probably saved lives, dispelling the narrative in calling for war with Russia.

These attacks always happen heading into an election period, it's often AI bots.

[ - ] Qwertytoal 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:49:34 ago (+3/-0)

Thanks for your hard work and sticking your neck out.

I have a feeling its a mix of reasons, as many complicated questions curtail complicated or mixed answers.

But the ones that stick out in my life are, the tiresome feeling that yes we are exercising our freedom of speech but we are doing so in basically am echo chamber. How many of us are speaking on this site to people that are on the fence? Or that are full blown crazy liberal but just maybe we may change their minds.
Also, many of the people who were undecided are more or less in turtle mode, not wishing to share with anyone, their personal opinions.
The other is time and energy. Many of us here are seeing the pattern of whats to come and are doing what we can to prepare ourselves and our families, to keep them fed, warm, clothed and homed in a secure home on a secured piece of land. That simply takes time and energy.

Those of us preparing are not going to share too much of what we are doing in preparation. As that may compromise our situation. We are all very aware of the sneaky cowards who hide amongst honest and good wholesome people/users, waiting for a slip up so they can "DOX" them and cancel culture takes care of the rest. Personally, it isnt really fear, its more that I see and think of all ive done, effort time and money and personal sacrifice, and i see that the possibility of having all of that taken away or even a portion destroyed... thats a hard consequence to be ok with, when i also know its not just me i may risk, but my family and close friends, as we all rely on one another now and more so later.

You are doing a great job, places for freedom of speech are important, but maybe try to be happy with what you've accomplished thus far. I know all of us are truly happy.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 17:48:38 ago (+1/-0)

This site is unusable. 6 months in and I still can't post a submission.

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 7 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:32:13 ago (+7/-0)

Anyone who wants positive things or cute animals just goes to one of the mainstream queer sites with 100,000x the traffic. Duplicating functionality isn’t going to get us anywhere.

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[ - ] JurassicFart 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:33:45 ago (+1/-0)

Only faggots want more -aww- content poisoning this site, go back to reddit kike

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 11:55:36 ago (+2/-1)

The proof that we are hungry for positive and wholesome content are the upvotes.

Imagine giving a single flying fuck about thumbsy uppies. Go back to reddit, then.

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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:21:22 ago (+1/-0)

[strawman because he can’t understand what was actually said]

Go back to Reddit and share cat pictures there. We have no obligation to entertain your bread and circus delusions.

[ - ] Spaceman84 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:04:24 ago (+3/-0)

What can be done about the faggot kikes shitting up the place? Ban the account and they just make another. Perhaps deleting their posts without banning them would prove frustrating for the shitheads.

[ - ] oldblo 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:07:43 ago (+5/-0)

We have the downvote button. If the community thinks someone is fucking it up thats always an option.
As for those who rapid fire pure spam a time limit before new posts are made might be a good idea.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:27:29 ago (+2/-0)

The last time the community came together and tried to self regulate, system banned huge swaths of us, for what? For speaking against the pedo content and the pointless spamming trolls. System sided with pedo troll scum against the users that made voat what it was. That was the death blow and its just been a slow death twitch since

[ - ] oldblo 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:06:40 ago (+1/-1)

I saw people demanding the entire site be ran the way they wanted for the sake of censoring things that were allowed on old voat.
Do what we want and do it now or our whole oh so important group walks is not an attempt at self regulation. Its an ultimatum to the site owner.
In more than one way System did the right thing.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:34:13 ago (+3/-0)

All we wanted was the pedo shit gone. And i say we, as the greater we, cuz i wasnt part of hdl or soapbox. I was just a user, tired of being on a website that valued child porn more than being a decent hangout for free speech enthusiasts.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:28:51 ago (+2/-0)

So, where do you dwell now?

[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:39:24 ago (+2/-0)

Honestly, no where in particular. AOU banned me for calling out the bullshit algorithm. System banned me cuz hes a pedophile. I was on searchvoat briefly, but what a waste of time that was. I'm on my 4th YouTube account now, but im reaching the normies and npcs at least. Busy with life mostly though. I lurk here and poal for websites to look at to kill time, but both are fucking pathetic ghosts of their former selves.

[ - ] oldblo -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:41:43 ago (+1/-2)

Sorry you feel that way but I see it contrary to how you do.
If you want a so called free speech enthusiast hangout that likes to censor the things you detest I encourage you to use Poal.
They have a great selection of content, a nice layout, and a decent sized amount of users.
Just dont post anything someone important finds revolting or contrary to their personal values.

[ - ] TwiceBanned 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:46:43 ago (+2/-0)

THIS is the faggy bullshit killing the free world.

Reeee allow all the degeneracy or freedoms dead!

Thus the world decays to the modern cesspool it is. Thanks, freedom.

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[ - ] oldblo -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:29:02 ago (+0/-1)

It would be nice if that were true but its not.
Excluding the willfully blind the facts should be extremely clear to anyone that frequents this or that site.

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[ - ] MrPancake 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:25:08 ago (+0/-0)

It only failed because he gave up.

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[ - ] Gigglestick 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:31:32 ago (+2/-0)

I still pronounce putt as put.

As in Put Tit Out

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:35:55 ago (+0/-0)

I still pronounce putt as "FAGGOT!"!!

[ - ] rage 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:56:22 ago (+2/-0)

I choose not to frequent NuVoat, for the simple reason that the same bad actors that destroyed OGVoat remain dominant.

Their demonstrable predisposition towards running off users that contribute unique content has remained on-point throughout the years.

Do I think there is a better way of dealing with them? No, because I prefer they spin their wheels here with very little users, instead of spending more time on the alternatives that are thriving without their attention.

Unfortunate scenario, but appears to be reality.

[ - ] chrimony 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:53:34 ago (+2/-0)

Kl0wn W0rld fatigue is real. Most stories I just give a pass to, because it's the same shit, different day. I stopped reading dindu stories months and months ago, or pretty much any fucked up bullshit that's the same old, same old. No point reading a different flavor of depressing or angering stories that you can do nothing about.

Trolls don't matter. Thumb's down and move on. They only seem like they matter when content has petered out.

All that said, it's good to have a place that allows for free speech (except in those few cases where you failed to uphold your end of the bargain).

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:28:00 ago (+2/-0)

Hey. Hey. Hey. Test

More than one line?

Two lines?

Text? Why are my comments being cut off?

[ - ] system [op] 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:44:10 ago (+3/-0)

I just ran into this as well. I think I fixed it.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:37:20 ago (+0/-0)

Looks

all

fixed!

[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:56:19 ago (+2/-0)

LordNuggie is based as fuck, we praise Him.

[ - ] system [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:48:47 ago (+2/-0)

LordNuggie is based as fuck

I agree.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:37:48 ago (+2/-0)

The inmates run the asylum. Bad move system. It’s going to get way worse.

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:23:44 ago (+2/-0)

He's an alright guy just spergs out. Think a lot of people gave up went back to faggit and kike book

The jews did 9/11 you nigger faggot

[ - ] frankenham 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:19:26 ago (+2/-0)

I've been noticing more and more Reddit-esque posting here.

Lame screenshots of text conversations, oh cute doggos!, T H O T P A T R O L etc

Just really stupid, low/no effort posting, copy and pasted straight from Reddit.

I think these kikes spam this shit to drown out actual conversation. They can't shut down Voat, but they can kvetch so loud they drown out the goats who are here for legitimate reasons.

[ - ] mikenigger 2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:16:09 ago (+5/-3)

Thank god that anti-semite is gone

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 04:05:19 ago (+1/-0)

I wonder. what we'll get? Something seemingly cool, but worthless?

[ - ] v0atmage 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:34:39 ago (+0/-0)

now do it with random capslocking.

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:34:22 ago (+0/-0)

You may be a fag but not because of this comment. Well said.

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[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:03:45 ago (+1/-0)

"Are just people just tired of the constant barrage of news...This I believe is the case...Ultimately I'd love to grow to a point where political/news talk isn't the sole attraction."

Well that's news to me as I thought politics/news is a healthy message-board component but what is the preferred content-alternative? The bros hate talking about their lives.

Be interesting to know SparklingWiggles sin.

Lord Nougat no longer speaks to me as much now he's a Mod. Got a bit snooty imo.

"censor speech the core group of users wants, of course...trolls and sensitive users can be [the issue]... let's drive this shit into the ground"

How are the core-users determined? Empty vessels can make the most noise. As for "sensitive users", while some posts go too far even in my very tolerant opinion, I thought the hallmark of a goat was a tough, thick skin? Voat/TLoL isn't for sooks.

It seems to me the only issue with the site is the hard-core porn we've seen recently - it doesn't add any value imo. I think Joe's girlie pics would be ok without showing labia. No need to see pics of sexual intercouse, masturbation imo.

So... perhaps there's a need for a rule-change in respect of hard-core porn?


"Queeri pls leave."

Sorry dangus I didn't mean to intrude.




[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:24:24 ago (+3/-0)

I've always been snooty.

It's a lord thing.

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:44:27 ago (+1/-0)

Ive seen no porn here in a good while. Not that I go looking. So it cant be much of an issue.
The site already carries an adult content filter. It has done plenty enough to cater to those who dont want to experience such things.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:02:50 ago (+1/-0)

An experiment? Was I the test subject??

If its free...

[ - ] knightwarrior41 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:53:01 ago (+1/-0)

okay i have joined because i want to answer this question, at least partially

putt didnt care about the growth of the site. how do i know this? i ran 3 subverses and one of them was making alot of noise in the google rankings (V/CRIMENEWS)and as soon as that began to happen....bam putt delisted the site from google


to me the old voat was nothing more than a honeypot of some sort. it was never about free speech or site growth

many people also wanted to pledge money and time for the website and putt outright refused and then it came the QTARDS ...and thus was the END

[ - ] Yargiyankooli 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:11:17 ago (+1/-0)

I must say that I am just busy now that it is warmer out. I think there is a subsection of us that actually do things that limits our internet use. I have only had a break just now and I see two new stickys. But I can really only check once a day for 10m now.

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[ - ] Mestizospic86 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:38:38 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks for being open and transparent about this. Thanks for doing this from you heart. If I could donate to you I would but I'm sure there are some on here that can donate to help keep things running.

[ - ] beece 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:34:30 ago (+1/-0)*

[quote]:"If that's the case then let's drive this shit into the ground."[/quote]

Drive away brother. I'm staying in the passenger seat and appreciate it all. Thanks! @ system.

[ - ] ruck_feddit 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:54:40 ago (+3/-2)

Good decision on wiggle, finally. Keep the site running smoothly, and we'll see what happens. Hopefully, something good.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:58:22 ago (+3/-0)

What did sparklingwiggle do? I never noticed any modding from either of them.

[ - ] Gaydragon -2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:26:57 ago (+0/-2)

He was a fash.

[ - ] 11hrr 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:22:52 ago (+1/-0)

I just thought this new voat was sketchy and the new owner was shadowy, so it could easily be some kind of honeypot. Kinda nice to see a post like this, which makes it seem more legitimate. Maybe there were other posts from the owner like this one, in the past, but I didn't notice them. I was going to Poal since Voat closed down, and it's "different", but better than nothing. I like Gab.com too. I'm pretty happy that this place looks just like Voat did, kinda starting to feel like it too.

[ - ] Garrett 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:02:47 ago (+1/-0)

Well voat is similar to pol i think and pol seems to be doing well.. so i dont think its fully the content

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:12:08 ago (+0/-0)

I feel like the TRS guys could probably send some brainshare this way, but for a while they always endorsed Poa.st, and these days it sounds like half of them are on Poal, but I’ve never heard them name drop us before.

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[ - ] v0atmage 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 09:34:06 ago (+1/-0)

Take your meds, Dial.

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[ - ] TardWhisperer -2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 21:42:56 ago (+0/-2)

Meds as in suicide pill.

[ - ] GhostCow 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 11:53:32 ago (+0/-0)

Dial gay

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:31:02 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Ozark 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 12:15:14 ago (+0/-0)

Simmer down.

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[ - ] oppressed 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 03:43:17 ago (+0/-0)

Most of the world are normies and normies dont want free speech. You're not reaching new people.

[ - ] oppressed 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 03:40:17 ago (+0/-0)

IF you continue to allow violent speech you could get shut down and arrested. Just censor illegal speech.

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:36:09 ago (+0/-0)

I think that monarchies get a bad name. Systems left to their own devices tend to be unstable, or rather find a stability not to your liking. Freedom can work in the real world because people can strike back at people disrupting it. Online there's little one can do.

On the other hand, a virtual space doesn't need to obey the laws of physics. It could filter things out based on association and trust. Rather than try to stop bad elements, let people filter it out.

[ - ] patchCodeUnsuccessful 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 00:31:10 ago (+0/-0)

The site's gone to shit because it's so far behind the information train that cross posts of twitter and facebook crap ends up here.

This is not a place to find new information.

So, why bother spending any time here. Same thing happened to 4chan, same thing happened to 8kun, same thing happened everywhere. Tells you that we're all downstream of better sources, and those sources have been gagged.

[ - ] ShitsInHoneypots 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:10:38 ago (+1/-1)

Hi AOU. You are a faggot.

[ - ] TardWhisperer -1 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:08:50 ago (+1/-2)

Every virtue-signalling retard that commented here should be gassed. You know if you are one.

The internet sucks now, smart phones ruined it.

F

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[ - ] MAGANDN 0 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:17:14 ago (+0/-0)

Yep, the answer is no and AOU is a jew nigger lover. All of that is 100!

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[ - ] UncleDoug -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:09:25 ago (+2/-3)

I am demodding sparklingwizzle

lol

Someone is going to eat a big tub of mint choc chip ice cream tonight.

[ - ] Gaydragon -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 19:14:02 ago (+3/-4)

@sparklingwizzle BTFO'D! LMAO XD

[ - ] account deleted by user -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:05:42 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:17:42 ago (+0/-1)

Good

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique -2 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 16:51:10 ago (+0/-2)

I'll tell you exactly the problem.

Literal Mossad agents do everything in their power to make free speech forums unappealing to average people.

SITE Intelligence Group. Flashpoint Intel. Other cutouts take US taxpayer dollars to monitor "online extremism" and create spaces friendly to extremists.

But there aren't enough extremists, so they use these spaces to nuerolinguistically program people into being the type of bad guy they need to villainous your site.

Kike, nigger... whatever. If you find your thoughts repeating shit Mossad agents are posting you've lost the neurolinguistic programming challenge.

While these things should be allowed, the constant saturation and repetition is a psyop and you are providing a free platform for Mossad agents to carry out their operation.

Users dwindle as their tactics become ineffective because they are the ones bringing users to participate in the operation.

If you take measures, like AOU, they ketch about not being able to run their psyop, which is why your site is a poal hate board more than anything else.

Your board is used to attack Poal constantly by literal Mossad agents.

I already exposed these agents on Voat where they lost their fucking minds trying to attack me as a source of information.

Then, I baited them into exposing themselves on Poal.

Where did they go? Here.

You have a Mossad problem and every site has a Mossad problem.

If you don't bend over for their messaging, they will target you and drive you literally crazy.

The glowniggers are the trolls and sensitive users. You have to learn to ignore them.

If you really want to fuck them up, you can do what 4chan did... where a site wide replacement was implemented for "nigger", changing it into "roodypoo".

You can change their NLP messaging.

You can also implement algorithms to identify people gaming votes. This is what destroyed voat... made it unreliable. There is a reason Poal does it. To catch Mossad red handed.

Keep in mind, if you effectively eliminate their participation, they will lash out.

Your user base will diminish... but it will have a chance to grow slowly and steadily.

You also need serious automated marketing and people who will help advertise your site.

I have nothing to donwith running Poal, but I do experiment with trying to drive traffic there so that shills can expose themselves.

If you don't have a systematic way of exposing shills, you will just be reddit or controlled opposition to show normies reddit is safe from niggerfaggotkike rhetoric.

[ - ] QuasiVoat 6 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 17:51:46 ago (+7/-1)

If you take measures, like AOU, they ketch about not being able to run their psyop, which is why your site is a poal hate board more than anything else.

utterly foolish. people hate aou because he lies flagrantly, is a petty tyrant, destroyed what boobs built, bans you for upvoting, bans you for downvoting, steals your points while lying about it, greys out/ llimits site functionality because he doesn't like you, all the while not admitting to it. There have been so many old, trustworthy goats who have confirmed all the shenanigans, that at this point you have to be willfully blind to not be aware of it.

[ - ] dulcima 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 18:55:01 ago (+5/-0)

It's bizarre the way they keep denying it.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:56:32 ago (+0/-0)

Why do you selectively cry everyday about Poal? Why not complain about Saidit.net? Phuks? Reddit?

Seems weird. You don't have to use Poal, but it seems pretty Mossad like to need a place to whine about it.

You have your own space, here, right? So you don't have to worry.

To the average person, you seem like a Mossad concern troll.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 18:27:03 ago (+1/-0)

You're the one who's quickly beginning to seem like mossad. It's as if you want us to go back to AOJew's (((poal))).

I study what gets censored on the Internet. I am on nearly every platform.

Sounds like a mossad agent.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 19:02:04 ago (+0/-0)

Then why would I doxx other Mossad agents, the first day or two this site was open on this site?

Why would I doxx Mossad agents AND their security firms?

You are a real piece of shit, with your projection.

I've taken active measures against you fucks.

I guess this is your way of crying about it?

Again... why don't you complain about reddit or ruqqus or phuks?

You don't because you hyperfocus on Poal because you're a shill.

The only other possibility is that you're so low IQ is that you've fallen for the mind control of other shills.

I study what Mossad censors, and you accuse me of being Mossad?

I think that says it all.

Feel free to kys.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 20:10:50 ago (+2/-0)

Seems like I struck a nerve. mossad indeed. The jig is up, chaim.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:13:21 ago (+0/-0)

Struck a nerve espousing aa useless site and projecting your self hating Jerry onto others?

Hurr durr. That's the total of your contribution to any site.

What articles have you written?

When have the shills doxxed you?

When have you been dragged into court?

Never. Because you're one of them.

[ - ] IfuckedYerMum 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:52:01 ago (+1/-0)

None of that is even remotely relevant, and none of it has happened to you. Stop acting like a tough guy; no one buys it. And stop acting like a kike if you aren't. Your AOJew dick sucking is utterly pathetic, as is the bullshit you make up. You're entire purpose here is to promote poal and put down voat. Give it a rest already and fuck off back to poal since it's such a superior place that gets the best of mossad.

[ - ] QuasiVoat 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:05:25 ago (+1/-0)

If you're not aou, you do a damned fine impression- ignore the core argument (about aou's fuckery) call everyone you don't like mossad or a 'concern troll'. I'm surprised you didn't completely give yourself away with a 'lol'. aou's a weak bitch who can't engage with the content of an argument, so he disgraces boob's memory by turning the place into an extremely limited-speech hugbox for himself. Weak and pathetic.

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 27, 2022 14:53:01 ago (+0/-0)

You are doing what you accuse me of.. deflecting from the fact that Mossad has factually been exposed as using these sites as part of their extremism investigator gift.

Then, you go around acting like one... reverse accusations and bullshit threats.

You are the fags who can't stick to qn argument and, instead, cry about Jews without ever naming a single one by name.

So, prove you're not a Mossad shill and name some Jews. Should be easy, right?

I'll start...

Robert Maxwell, father of Ghislaine Maxwell. Look into his involvement with designing US text books.

Leo Frank. Pedophile. His lynching was a turning point that spawned the ADL.

Eliezer Ben-Yehuda. Also a child abuser. Locked his kid up so he could only speak Hebrew. Spawned the propaganda arm of Israel.

Sigmund Freud. His creation of an international association of psychologists have done more harm to mankind than nearly any other group of people. They have weaponized psychology against every man, womab and child and are the managers of modern warfare and modern politics.

Adolf Hitler. That's right. Fuck you. Rothschild bastard who lost the war intentionally to wipe out 80 to 100 million white Europeans. In 1913, in Vienna, the 11th Zionist Congress planned WWI and WWII as a layered consolidation plan, where they created a series of treaties to have a domino effect, dragging every nation they could into war. Hitler was there. Stalin was there. Tito, Trotsky, Freud, Ferdinand... everyone needed was there.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 20:19:02 ago (+5/-0)

Aou drove me off Poall with his algos. Im not an israeli. Im a regular person

[ - ] QuasiVoat 4 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:30:17 ago (+5/-1)

'algo' means aou got salty

[ - ] Trumpman1488 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 05:08:19 ago (+0/-0)

You are a Queen!

[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 13:54:32 ago (+0/-0)

So... ignore Poal. Reddit is worse. Why not complain about reddit 500 ijes a day on this site?

The concern trolling is obviously its inauthentic.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus -1 points 2 yearsMay 11, 2022 20:56:32 ago (+0/-1)

Women aren't people, are you even trying?

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[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 9 points 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 15:17:34 ago (+9/-0)

There are consequences to shitposting. You ruining experiences for everyone else who doesn't shit post is a bitch move. You could have just stuck to your hobby sub, but you didn't. Reap the whirlwind.

[ - ] Centaurus 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 21:57:24 ago (+1/-0)

There is a "exclude from All" button before you post something. Use it if you don't want people downvoting certain threads you make.

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[ - ] Centaurus 1 point 2 yearsApr 16, 2022 23:54:43 ago (+1/-0)

If your posts are for a select crowd, and there is a sub for that crowd, and when you post to All you get downvoted because they don't share your hobby, then why are you posting it to All? I don't see the point in that.