antichrist must come first and persecute and defeat the saints that will trigger christ's second coming.
Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
those hoping for a quick escape (aka the rapture) will be for a rude awakening
thank you but i'll give all the credit to God that allowed me to have this understanding and let me tell ya this is not the only kerfuffle
i'm currently battling for the faith in an orthodox youtube channel.
they cannot believe that the bible is the final authority when it comes to matters of faith and christian life.
they also defend the use of iconoclasm at their churches despite the prohibitions of the bible to worship images. the best they can come up with is that God allowed the israelites to have the arc of the covenant so in their minds iconoclasm is justfied....
wrong!
there's no such commandments in the new testament as christians often worshipped in private houses and later on in hiding in catacombs because of the persecutions by the jews and romans.
they claim that luke made icons of christ which i dont see any evidences for and on the contrary we find this gem in romans
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
and in acts
Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
one more last thing...now i understand why God will allow antichrist to persecute the church so that the persecution will purify the church because its current state is atrocious. we are so carnal minded nowadays and yes include myself in this
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
see the word tried in there? the CONvid persecution is just the early "taste" of this great persecution that will encompass the whole world. and most zionist christians are waiting an exit escape which shall not happen
the rapture that they see in Thessalonians is the second coming of the lord.
jesus appears in the sky. gathers his elect both alive and dead and heads down to defeat antichrist in the same day since his coming will suspend space and time on earth.
peter talks about the elements melting
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Isaiah 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Luke 21:25 ¶ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
in short. God is going to pull the plug on the whole creation in the second coming of christ.
the other judgements will come later after antichrist and satan are in the lake of fire
the great white throne judgement
Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Matthew 25:31 ¶ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
same throne? there many things that i dont understand yet but yes he will surely pull the plug on this fallen creation
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The only light that will fix it will come from Russian territory.
Which means we are all fucked either way.
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those hoping for a quick escape (aka the rapture) will be for a rude awakening
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i'm currently battling for the faith in an orthodox youtube channel.
they cannot believe that the bible is the final authority when it comes to matters of faith and christian life.
they also defend the use of iconoclasm at their churches despite the prohibitions of the bible to worship images. the best they can come up with is that God allowed the israelites to have the arc of the covenant so in their minds iconoclasm is justfied....
wrong!
there's no such commandments in the new testament as christians often worshipped in private houses and later on in hiding in catacombs because of the persecutions by the jews and romans.
they claim that luke made icons of christ which i dont see any evidences for and on the contrary we find this gem in romans
and in acts
one more last thing...now i understand why God will allow antichrist to persecute the church so that the persecution will purify the church because its current state is atrocious. we are so carnal minded nowadays and yes include myself in this
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
see the word tried in there? the CONvid persecution is just the early "taste" of this great persecution that will encompass the whole world. and most zionist christians are waiting an exit escape which shall not happen
the rapture that they see in Thessalonians is the second coming of the lord.
jesus appears in the sky. gathers his elect both alive and dead and heads down to defeat antichrist in the same day since his coming will suspend space and time on earth.
peter talks about the elements melting
in short. God is going to pull the plug on the whole creation in the second coming of christ.
the other judgements will come later after antichrist and satan are in the lake of fire
the great white throne judgement
same throne? there many things that i dont understand yet but yes he will surely pull the plug on this fallen creation
sorry for the long post