submitted by paul_neri to AI 3 daysMay 31, 2025 07:11:25 ago (+17/-0) (www.news.com.au)
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/anthropic-ceo-warns-ai-could-wipe-out-1-in-2-white-collar-jobs-in-next-five-years/news-story/3196841292011f2147be15b6e186a289
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 7 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:21:01 ago (+7/-0)*
The best explanation that helped me understand AI was a guy using chess as an example. A human could at most play chess 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. AI can play chess 24/7/365 and play millions of games a day. Now apply that logic to everything.
A doctor can at most see maybe 30 or 40 people a day. If they work 7 days a week, that's 240 patients a week. Regardless of how many human doctors work these schedules, they would still only have the ability to learn from their own experiences. If there were AI doctors placed in every town, that AI doctor would work 24/7 and each AI doctor could be connected to all the other AI doctors. Its ability to diagnose and treat patients would excel at rates beyond our comprehension. The AI doctor would see trends of seasonal colds in real time.
Now imagine this AI doctor costs $20 to see and requires no insurance. It can perform surgery, it's a dietitian, pharmacist, dentist, physical therapist, podiatrist, mental health specialist, can deliver babies with ease, speaks every language fluently, and never makes a misdiagnosis. Who the fuck would roll the dice with seeing a regular doctor, most of who currently use computers to type in your symptoms so the computer can spit back out a diagnosis.
Not only will all those medical professions be quickly wiped out, but medical insurance, medical lawyers, and the hundreds of support roles. 22 million healthcare jobs in the United States, where will 22 million people find new jobs?
What about all the schools and people who teach healthcare? What about all the government agencies that oversee healthcare or healthcare programs like Medicare or Medicaid?
Roughly 5 million people are employed in the Pharmaceutical industry. When the AI doctor can literally create the perfect drug for their patient in real-time, that industry has no purpose.
I guess 30 million people can go work in Amazon factories after this, except they are working towards full AI automation and will most likely employ zero people in the future. It doesn't matter how great you are at managing a warehouse, AI can learn from managing hundreds of warehouses simultaneously, something no human has the ability to do. It will become better at managing warehouses than any human that has ever existed and it will continue to learn 24/7/365.
Millions of artists and industries associated with artists have already been wiped out with literally no safety nets whatsoever. All of those people are simply fucked with no recourse and nobody is talking about it. Will they start talking about it when you lose your job?
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 2 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 11:54:24 ago (+2/-0)
The biggest thing that needs to be talked about now and no one is talking about it is some new economic model that needs to be developed because the old arguments of capitalism versus communism both depended on their being an element of labor for humans to trade
When humans have no labor to trade you have to devise a whole economic model and you have to throw all the old definitions out the window. And if it's going to work and masses of people aren't going to starve then it's going to have to include some component of people getting a universal basic income or some kind of percentage of a tax put on robot labor and distributed back to the people. And it won't be communism because it won't be labor versus Capital because labor won't be a part of it. And capital really won't be a part of it either because Capital won't be needed either once robots start self-assembling.
So this is the one thing that no political party and no economist and no one is talking about really.
I do think Elon musk has said that it's going to be a problem and he may have been the one who suggested that the answer is to put a tax on all industrial output and redistribute that tax amongst all people so they have money to buy the industrial output.
And of course this kind of thing does exist today people who are stockholders get dividends and nobody calls them a communist and the residents of Alaska get a percentage of the revenue from Alaska's oil output every year or usually a thousand or $2,000. And no one calls them a communist.
It's just what you do to make a circular form of exchange continue to work so people have the means to purchase the industrial output the robots will make. Otherwise the whole system collapses.
But there are no leaders in any political party talking about making this change which is going to be drastic and which is going to have to be made extremely quickly.
Like within the next 2 years it's going to need to start.
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 3 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 12:24:54 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] TheNoticing
[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 13:47:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NeverHappened
[ - ] NeverHappened 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:38:31 ago (+1/-0)
However, once we societally acknowledge that we can't all work anymore and figure out how to go on it could be so amazing. As someone in healthcare, I cannot wait for a reduction of humans working in medicine. People are retarded.
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 0 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:47:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:45:07 ago (+1/-0)
China, India? Ya know all the countries that come here to take American jobs. I'm sure it works in reverse right? 🙄
[ + ] GreatSatan
[ - ] GreatSatan 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 10:18:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:51:28 ago (+0/-0)
Great, digital niggers. How can I discipline a digital nigger?
[ + ] PuddinTame
[ - ] PuddinTame 0 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 17:36:54 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] TheRealBuddha
[ - ] TheRealBuddha 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 12:54:52 ago (+1/-0)
The AI just oversees the robots.
There will be all sorts of components that these cars won't even need. All they need are seats, safety equipment, and maybe some entertainment. If we can automate traffic enough, you can even do away with the safety equipment.
As for what will humans do? Well, hopefully stop procreating.
I get a kick out of it when people say that Bill Gates wants to reduce the population. He does. He doesn't mean he wants to kill them, he just means that we should stop breeding so much. (He also saves a ton of lives with his work on malaria.)
Even the rich people tend to find something constructive to do with their time. They don't just lay around and get high. They find hobbies, socialize, create, etc... All sorts of people are already working when they don't have to.
You might end up with a premium for handmade goods, much like we already pay. These people would be getting their needs met already (likely through UBI). They won't have to make things, but they'll want to. It's just in our nature to create and be productive.
Sure, a subset of the population is going to just lay around and get high. That's fine. We already criminalize bad behavior. So, we might as well.
Yeah, that's a bit of a novella, but I wanted to touch on some similar things and write less.
AI itself can't fix a car. A trained AI working with robots can fix a car - certainly so if the car is optimized for it. It'll fix a car faster and better than any human ever did.
Now, if we get to keep our car collections and our old ICE automobiles, you'll need a specialist human. I am prepared for that outcome.
[ + ] SirNiggsalot
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[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 13:40:19 ago (+1/-0)
While it's not explicitly stated that Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, is Jewish, his mother is Jewish-American.
Here's what is known about his background:
Mother: Elena Engel, his mother, is a Jewish-American woman born in Chicago. She worked as a project manager for libraries.
Father: Riccardo Amodei, his father, was an Italian leather craftsman.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 13:35:31 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] paul_neri
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[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 11:50:30 ago (+1/-0)
And of course it's true and everybody knows
And the important thing to realize is that it's not all going to happen in at the 5-year time mark. It's actually starting this year with huge numbers of firings already happening as company owners realize they can replace half their sales workforce and a lot of their page call centers in a lot of other things with these AI voice box that can fully interact intelligently with humans on the other end of the phone without the human knowing.
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 11:29:36 ago (+1/-0)*
[MANIACAL LAUGHTER]
Good.
I don't seem to be able to recall any of those fuckers crying for all the blue collar workers who's jobs got outsourced.
Now we're supposed to weep for the white collar workers who are soon going to find themselves AI-sourced?
I'd say, "Learn to code", but, well, you know...
The simple fact is that the vast majority of those jobs are just bullshit paper-shuffling make-work.
The world isn't going to end due to a sudden lack of useless power-point slides that nobody ever paid any attention to anyway.
(Wouldn't this also be a very strong indication that all those H1B visas are no longer necessary and can be sent back now?)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 10:07:58 ago (+1/-0)
However in controlled economies how do they keep people employed?
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:49:55 ago (+1/-0)
Remember all those snobs telling the miners and factory workers "learn to code"?
Sure hope all those snobs are about to be told "learn to HVAC".
[ + ] Trope
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[ + ] Clubberlang
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[ + ] Tallest_Skil
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[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 3 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:10:35 ago (+3/-0)
There are a ton of inefficient businesses in our economy but our education system only teaches people how to be worker bees. A good ten percent of office workers can be replaced by a spreadsheet. Foreigners get preferential treatment for starting businesses.
[ + ] BushChuck5002
[ - ] BushChuck5002 3 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:17:15 ago (+4/-1)
As in life, the business World moves on the will of 3%.
Most businesses are as NPC as most people.
[ + ] BushChuck5002
[ - ] BushChuck5002 3 points 3 daysMay 31, 2025 09:15:23 ago (+4/-1)
It's already happening. I haven't had to subcontract any graphic design, or artistic works at all for the last 18 months.
AI is pretty much maintaining my website, and social media, so I don't pay someone for that any more.
I'd say AI has already removed my need for at least a half dozen companies I used to routinely do business with.
[ + ] Clubberlang
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[ + ] big_fat_dangus
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[ + ] BushChuck5002
[ - ] BushChuck5002 -1 points 2 daysJun 1, 2025 08:28:42 ago (+0/-1)
This fat creepy faggot literally stalks my comments page 24/7
That's some sad, creepy obsessive faggot shit, eh?
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
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