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It is tornado day in Oklahoma.

submitted by Anotherone to whatever 7 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:03:33 ago (+19/-0)     (whatever)

You new to severe weather? Let me help you to anticipate danger.

When conditions are favorable for tornadoes it begins at sunrise, there will be a lot of moisture in the air, and it will be unusually warm.

Look for green sky. Often times before a tornado forms something in the atmosphere makes the sky turn green. Don't know the science.

If you are observing the tornado and you see it getting larger that means it is headed towards you.

DO NOT RELY ON TORNADO SIRENS FOR WARNING.

Don't attempt to outrun a tornado, you will likely lose that race. I have seen a tornado roll a whole oil rig 4 times in El Reno OK, and it was going 71mph across the ground.

If you insist on watching a tornado make sure you are not putting anyone else in danger, pretty fucking nigger to do that. Also turn your phone sideways, none of that nigger video format.

https://files.catbox.moe/shnf7a.jpg

This is from the London KY tornado.

Notice it is night time, these are the most dangerous because often times they (tornados) are rain wrapped and you cannot see them.

You observe for power flashes, transformers will blow and it has a distinct blue color with a bit of purple.

Other day someone suggested MaxVelocity on YouTube, he is pretty damn good, he also networks with multiple spotters to bring live feeds which are useful.

When you are watching news and they start speaking weather nerd, key phrases are "area of rotation" "feeder band" and many more. Area of rotation means that conditions are favorable a touchdown is imminent.

Feeder band is what the storm draws for fuel.

https://files.catbox.moe/j75n0j.png

This is the most extreme example to give, but if you notice the "hook" that is called a "hook echo" tornado will be in that pocket, the part where it goes out on the radar is the "feeder band".

Now the myth that before a tornado you hear a train, I always hear trees snapping myself, and houses breaking apart, but to each their own. Might not even get rain or hail before the tornado too.

Another hazard https://files.catbox.moe/l6dzkn.jpg

This shit! Fist sized chunks of spike ice coming at you near terminal velocity. This was taken Friday night in Mustang OK, abd weather center is saying up to softball size hail today.

I have seen football size in my life once.

Edit

https://www.youtube.com/live/rsHZyZ1TWNc?si=Nk3_yz7HYrIty8jO

This is a live feeds from what I belive is the best weather team in Oklahoma.


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[ - ] Rob3122 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 15:44:23 ago (+0/-0)

Why do people risk living in an area that gets tornados every year?

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 15:58:32 ago (+0/-0)

https://www.youtube.com/live/rsHZyZ1TWNc?si=Nk3_yz7HYrIty8jO

You can watch our news live and just listen to these people. Because we dont have anywhere else to go. It is our home, where we grew up and while I get that doesn't mean much to some people.

It does to people in Oklahoma. People in Kansas, many southern states even. We care about each other.

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 3 hoursMay 19, 2025 14:17:17 ago (+0/-0)

That first picture you linked, the only reason you could see it at all was because of the lightning. That's fucking terrifying.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 15:11:31 ago (+1/-0)

Same tornado different angle

https://files.catbox.moe/9xsbak.jpg

[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 3 hoursMay 19, 2025 13:51:54 ago (+2/-0)

I met this hot nurse from OKC couple days ago

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 15:09:37 ago (+1/-0)

100% she has a baby daddy and tattoos to prove her lack of self control

[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 15:14:37 ago (+2/-0)

no baby daddy, she's vacationing solo. she does have tats tho.

[ - ] dirtywhiteboy 0 points 54 minutesMay 19, 2025 16:27:37 ago (+0/-0)

Did you PIHB

[ - ] Ussliberty86thereturn 2 points 4 hoursMay 19, 2025 13:10:12 ago (+2/-0)

I drove right down rangeline in Joplin about 13 min before the monster touched down.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 4 hoursMay 19, 2025 13:20:15 ago (+1/-0)

Lots of Joplin is still the way it was after that day, its why I made this post. With the current way our system is, no one will make it out safe and intact.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 11:49:49 ago (+1/-0)

Also turn your phone sideways, none of that nigger video format...

👍

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:55:06 ago (+1/-0)

I enjoy WeatherNation as background noise. Based out of Colorado, their weather coverage is more sensible than others.

Des Moines had an outbreak one day - local news used the varios DOT cameras to pan around and show all the different ones spinning up. Over a dozen, nobody really caring too much. None were huge luckily.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:57:10 ago (+1/-0)

Big problem is that more people dont take it seriously. I am not saying you need to freak out and panic, but it is detrimental to stay aware on days like this.

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1 hourMay 19, 2025 15:32:59 ago (+1/-0)

green sky

Earlier last week while getting to the car, oldest noticed how green everything looked. It was 6:30am, but still checked radar for any sort of whatthefuckery.

It's amazing how many people have no idea if it will even rain in the next week, let alone nasty weather.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 16:19:48 ago (+0/-0)

That is why I made this post, many never needed to think about weather. With this we can share information and maybe just maybe save some nigger faggots life?

I like that possibly.

[ - ] TheNoticing 1 point 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 14:22:11 ago (+1/-0)

Over a dozen tornadoes? Jesus fucking christ.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 15:28:46 ago (+0/-0)*

All shown from the various DOT cameras. It was an experience.

Edit: I in no way endorse living in Iowa. Your shit will be destroyed eventually.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 15:59:28 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 59 minutesMay 19, 2025 16:22:23 ago (+0/-0)

That is called a "tornado outbreak" these are happening more and more frequently as well. Not sure of the metric used to determine such a classification.

You can search live feeds across YouTube for chasers. Reed Timmer is likely the best, but also the biggest fuck head.

[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:27:16 ago (+1/-0)

I have seen football size in my life once.

Please tell me you have pictures? I would love anything you can share on hail / tornado formation.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 2 points 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:55:39 ago (+2/-0)

Was in the early 90s that I saw it, but some pineapple size hail was in Texas last June...it was massive.

https://files.catbox.moe/fsyne8.jpg

This is my porch roof in 2023 after a hail storm. That is metal by the way.

https://files.catbox.moe/y19an8.jpg

This is one i got myself in 2011 or 2012, it was taken with an IPhone 3gs and was less than 100y from it. Dibble OK


[ - ] Anotherone [op] 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 16:00:27 ago (+0/-0)

https://www.youtube.com/live/rsHZyZ1TWNc?si=Nk3_yz7HYrIty8jO

This is likely the best weather team we have in Oklahoma. This is live, and there is a big mofo tornado near Ada now.

[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 7 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:20:08 ago (+1/-0)*

I did the math on it a long time ago - using standard wikipedia-tier equations for a round cross section, supporting a round piece of hail (round because equations are idealized) required some insane airspeed figure, like 270 mph. Remembering that hail doesn't instantly form, and requires at least some period of 'incubation', basically makes hail formations in modern cumulonimbus clouds theoretically impossible, as the internal airspeeds have been charted and the ranges of airspeed known (generally never above 100mph).

It is worse when you remember hail gets far larger in size than golf balls.

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You can easily double check this yourself without needed math background. Have your favorite AI of choice draft up the equations, then plug them into a symbolic solver (don't have the ai try to solve these - ironically they are bad at math) like Wolfram Alpha and have it chart airspeed for you vs diameter. Under a half inch it is plausible, but it just gets insane past an inch.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 2 points 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:24:29 ago (+2/-0)

Good news is that radar imagery can show hail cores in black and deep purple now, they can see debris balls from tornados up to an F2 now as well.

They can also predict the size of the hail stones in storms pretty accurate.

[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 6 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:38:58 ago (+1/-0)*

I should have clarified that it doesn't make it literally impossible - just theoretically.

There is a lot of strange with air and weather. Did you ever see my old post on 'nobody knows why planes fly?'

This is where it used to live on catbox, but they removed it: https://files.catbox.moe/7rpb01.png
The pomf reupload: https://pomf2.lain.la/f/zk71up6p.png

Well, I had a followup to that - nobody knows why clouds float - that I never published. In short, why clouds levitate probably has a lot to do with why hail can form at this size.

EDIT: Instead of sitting on it forever and never releasing it (@Tallest_Skil, looking at you), here is the unfinished episode 2 on clouds. I stopped as it quickly turned into me writing a freaking research paper and at the time I was already getting sick of doing that IRL. https://pomf2.lain.la/f/7phdh7.png

[ - ] prototype 1 point 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 15:14:57 ago (+1/-0)*

On angle-of-attack: I would think the velocity of the air relative to the top of the wing would be important.
Remember gas pressure means pressure applied in all directions.
As a wing accelerates forward a new force is introduced, pressure on the front of the wing.
This current is relative to the movement of the wing.

Wind over the top surface of the wing is going to exert less force not just downward, but upward as well.
The sheet of air moving above the upper part of the foil is also going to have a sheet of air above it moving slower relative to it.

The skipping stone theory would only hold therefore if the pressure exerted below the wing exceeded the static pressure of the air above the wing.

This does however lend credence to the venturi effect.

The 'mirrored surface' need not be a part of the plane. The air above the wing that is moving slower than air immediately over the wing provides the constriction necessary.

You could test it by flying into a headwind at the same speed of the headwind. If this explanation holds merit, then under these testing conditions you should observe some loss of lift relative to the ideal.

Under this modification the shape of the wing doesn't have to be ideal, and accounts for both flat surfaces producing lift, and wings that are inverted also providing lift. What matters is the relative forces generated between the pressure below the wing and the pressure above the wing relative to the free air above the wing.

In any case these theories explaining lift are all partially true approximations of what is happening when lift occurs.

[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 34 minutesMay 19, 2025 16:48:04 ago (+1/-0)

On angle-of-attack: I would think the velocity of the air relative to the top of the wing would be important.

Correct. Actually, it is the only thing that matters. When doing force-diagrams on a wing, you always use the wing as the stationary frame of reference, and the only thing that changes is the incident air.

As a wing accelerates forward a new force is introduced, pressure on the front of the wing.

This is called 'drag'.

The 'mirrored surface' need not be a part of the plane.

Believe it or not, NASA used to have a website where they debunked the 3 theories (of course, not volunteering anything better). I summarized those theories and their problems from their pages. My post in OG Voat may have archive links to them, if you care to look.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 4 hoursMay 19, 2025 12:44:30 ago (+0/-0)*

Hail forms because its not just falling. It goes back up. As well.

60k feet high.

[ - ] aleleopathic 0 points 38 minutesMay 19, 2025 16:43:33 ago (+0/-0)

Hail forms because its not just falling. It goes back up. As well.

Certainly. The problem (theoretically speaking) is the average airspeed needed to levitate an 'ideal' shape of ice - it isn't even in the range of what is measured within clouds.

The updraft airspeed would need to increase even further to cause ascent, as well.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 4 minutesMay 19, 2025 17:17:25 ago (+0/-0)

Which is why when we see these things on radar we call them ice cores. Centers of circulation so dense and powerful it unmistakable

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 11:50:51 ago (+0/-0)

It is worse when you remember hail gets far larger in size than golf balls.

I was in Altus OK in the late 90s and can confirm softball sized hail.

[ - ] drstrangergov 2 points 7 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:07:32 ago (+2/-0)

lol that's awesome.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 1 point 7 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:11:01 ago (+1/-0)

It can be no doubt. However it is important to remember that this happens to people, good and bad.

It will likely happen to them today.

[ - ] drstrangergov 2 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 11:48:13 ago (+2/-0)

it occurs to me that people like us that have prepared and are ready for hard times may become hardened to people who havent. things are unraveling fast. nature does not fuck around. be careful out there.

[ - ] Anotherone [op] 2 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 11:50:28 ago (+2/-0)

Well it isnt that we so much prepared, we have likely experienced it before and as to gatekeeping information we attempt to help others.