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[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 17:56:07 ago (+0/-0)

What are you basing this on?

Seriously.

Even from an atheistic view, if God is an idealism projected and mirrored from the all-powerful nature that a young human perceives a parent to have, it follows that the concept of God exists prior to self-awareness, not after.

And just as a nursery may be designed to cultivate safety, security, and growth that originates from the design and work of parents, so too would the natural world (including the inherent created nature of parents) be a designed creation from an ultimate uncreated creator to cultivate good things.

Even the notion that the concept of God reflects our feeling towards parents points backwards to the principle that the ideal form exists and speaks through created things.

Like Plato's Forms, you can argue that transcendental Pi doesn't actually exist and that projections themselves are the only real numbers, or you can accept that it is true that Pi exists, it is just not something we can express fully through our shadowed reality.

[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 11:46:31 ago (+1/-1)

God created you, silly.

Talk about putting the cart in front of the goat

Catch 22 really.

One can create a god in their mind but for only one purpose….to save one’s soul when death arrives.

Eternal bliss and all that…

Or conversely, one can adopt an existing ideal of god….to save one’s soul when death arrives.

Same bliss eternal

As a (former) gambler, it’s impossible to deny the possibility of the supernatural.

We know far less than we think we do about this universe….

I wager kikes burn in Hell…

Amen.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 1 point 1 monthMar 9, 2025 12:24:58 ago (+1/-0)

God created you

If there can be only one God, then "creation" can only happen within aka whole separating into partials. That's not creation (out of nothing), but transformation (within everything).

A jew suggests creationism aka creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothing) to tempt consenting gentiles into de-nying (nihilo; nothing) everything perceivable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatio_ex_nihilo ..."The Tree of Life, or Etz haChayim (עץ החיים) in Hebrew, is a mystical symbol used in the Kabbalah of esoteric Judaism to describe the path to HaShem and the manner in which he created the world ex nihilo (out of nothing)."

And here's a jew suggesting NOTHING to his (sein) field (feld) of goyim cattle... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnaRtNMGMI

[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 12:40:11 ago (+0/-0)

I did not suggest there can only be ONE god.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 12:43:59 ago (+0/-0)

Hence me using implication (if/then) over reason (can vs can't). As for one...if energy implies one; then what does two imply?

[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 14:41:15 ago (+0/-0)

Multiples..duh

I’m not an evangelist in the slightest. I think it ignorant to disregard ANY possibility.

One or a million gods makes zero difference when you allow any to exist.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 15:27:56 ago (+0/-0)

Multiples..duh

If energy implies internal power, then multiplication comes after division, hence division into being allowing intercourse for off-spring aka multiplication of divided beings.

I’m not an evangelist

a) -ist implies ones consent to a suggested -ism, hence ones use of NOT implying a nihil-ist consenting to suggested nihil-ism.

b) Evangel implies ev/es (essence; being) + angel/angle (difference in direction between intersecting lines) aka difference (life) within direction (inception towards death). Inter (within) sect (seco; to divide), hence being within the division (life) of line (inception towards death).

I think it ignorant to disregard ANY possibility.

Both ignorance and possibility (potential ability) imply each ONES free will of choice, hence any/oi-no - "unique; one"... https://www.etymonline.com/word/any

One or a million gods makes zero difference when you allow any to exist.

a) To allow or deny tempts one to ignore being LOWered into ALL, hence representing the possibility/potential to grow...unless denied/ignored.

b) Zero implies ones de-nial (nihilo; nothing) of all perceivable for suggested nihil-ism, hence zero/sifr/cipher - "empty; nothing"... https://www.etymonline.com/word/cipher#etymonline_v_13714

[ - ] reptillian 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 23:02:27 ago (+0/-0)

If energy implies internal power, then multiplication comes after division, hence division into being allowing intercourse for off-spring aka multiplication of divided beings.


So we are all a divine division; a division of divine.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 10, 2025 07:11:59 ago (+0/-0)

we are all

Each one within all...suggested pluralism (we) tempts singular (one) to ignore self discernment by joining others.

a divine division; a division of divine

a) DI (divide) VIS (vision) ION (action) aka action dividing into visual reactions.

b) Few tempt many to seek divination by joining each other, which establishes a conflict of reason (divine vs profane) aka two sides against each other contradicting the divine divide from one another as profane aka per (forwards) fano (temple).

c) From the Christian perspective...divine implies whole (God) dividing into each partial (Christ), hence anointing each one from one another. The trick..."joining" Christianity annuls anoint-ment.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 19:13:23 ago (+0/-0)

If there can be only one God, then "creation" can only happen within aka whole separating into partials. That's not creation (out of nothing), but transformation (within everything).

This is going to go over 99.9% of people's heads, but yes, it's a good comment.

Protestants aren't necessarily beholden to creatio ex nihilo. It is spelt out in deuterocanon.

"beseech thee, my son, look upon heaven and earth, and all that is in them: and consider that God made them out of nothing, and mankind also:" - 2 Mac 7:28

And compare:

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Gen 2:7

There is a required reconciliation to these passages that necessitates 2 Mac 7:28 is discussing "created from nothing" as a discussion of absolute starting point and "formed from misty ground dust + breathe" as a mid-point within the creation process for mankind.

If we look at the Catholic Catechism:

"We believe that God needs no pre-existent thing or any help in
order to create, nor is creation any sort of necessary emanation from the divine substance. God creates freely 'out of nothing': If God had drawn the world from pre-existent matter, what would be
so extraordinary in that? A human artisan makes from a given material
whatever he wants, while God shows his power by starting from nothing to make all he wants." - CCC 296

The Catholic perspective is at odds with your premise, although I agree your premise by itself is self-consistent from a different metaphysic model not contemplated by Catholic Christianity.

If you think of Plato's the Forms and then imagine God as simultaneously the source of light and the object source from which the shadow scenes are cast, neither the light source nor the true object are present in the shadows on the wall, only the energies that come from them. That is to say nothing of the divine substance is actually divided from in order to create.

If you are asking "what about that wall?", it is only a convenience for the metaphor, you don't actually need anything for the pattern to cast on. The example is crude, as will any example, because it is not natural or intuitive for us to imagine something created ex nihilo.

If you must imagine something, a singularity of 0 size might be the closest proxy.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 11, 2025 06:05:11 ago (+0/-0)

Protestants aren't necessarily beholden to

Consenting to Protestantism implies a BEing HOLDing onto a suggestion.

look upon heaven and earth, and all that is in them

a) To look/lock implies artificially beholding what nature separates from one another.

b) Suggested "all is in" inverts ones perception within all perceivable. ALL cannot be within anything...it's each one coming into being within all.

consider that God made them out of nothing

To con-side implies "siding together", which tempts one to deny being (life) in-between sides (inception/death), hence separated from one another. Ones de-nial (nihilo; nothing) shapes "out of nothing" thought.

It is spelt out in deuterocanon

a) Being implies in-stru-ment within sound...few craft the spelling of words to distract many from sound. Sound moves perceivable and perception apart; words tempt consent and suggestion together.

b) Deutero/dwo - "two" tempts ONE to ignore self discernment as one (partial) within all (whole). If God implies first; then second doesn't imply addition to God, but seco (to divide) aka a separation of whole into partials.

In other words...whole (perceivable) dividing into partials (perception) implies singularity; while one consenting to another ones suggestion implies plurality. Consenting to a suggestion tempts one and one together aka dual-ism.

the Lord God formed

Which implies flow (inception towards death) forming (life) aka a trans-form-ation (transfer of form within action).

the breath of life

Aka motion internally separating momentum (inception towards death) into matter (life), hence spirit/spiro (to breathe) going in and out of being aka through aka A-CROSS.

became a living soul

Soul/sole (one and only), hence living coming into being within the process of dying. It's being suggested as "living soul" to distract solid (living) from fluid (dying). Consenting to a suggested living soul establishes a dying soul, thereby a) contradicting soul/sole (one and only) and b) establishing a deuteronomy (law of two).

absolute starting point

Absolute/absolve implies release of form (life) within flow (inception towards death) aka each life sentenced towards point of death. A sentence doesn't start with a point, but while being SENT/SEND into sentience.

Start (inception) and finish (death) implies the same motion for each different matter (life) within.

Few suggest "point" to distract many from sentence/sentience...making a point; appointments; come to the point; pointing out etc. are rhetorical spells tempting with suggested outcomes away from perceivable origin.

If we look at Catholic Catechism

Consenting to a suggested -ism by word of mouth (catech/katekhizein aka oral instruction) tempts one to ignore that motion separates catholic/cathode and anode aka kata (down) + ana (up) hodos (way) from one another. Up the way implies living; down the way implies dying.

believe that God needs

God implies need; each one within a want (form) within need (flow).

nor is creation any sort of necessary emanation from the divine substance.

Create/creare/ker (to grow) + ion (action)...only reactions (partials) within action (whole) can grow during loss. Emanation (life) within necessity (inception towards death)...a divine/division of substance (flow) into essence (form).

If God had drawn the world from pre-existent matter, what would be so extraordinary in that?

God implies pre-impressing motion; drawing/pulling momentum (inception towards death) for expressing matter (life). Motion causes effective matter...God implies motion; Christ implies matter; Spirit implies momentum of motion breathing life through matter. The suggested words "god, spirit; christ" tempt perceiving matter to ignore perceivable momentum, which corrupts discernible motion.

As for extraordinary...order (inception towards death) and chaos (life) aka loss/growth aka action/reaction aka living/dying aka need/want aka balance/choice can only come into being within motion. Being implies extra (life) ordained (inception towards death) within main/base/foundation/whole/sole/energy/all/god etc.

"A human artisan makes from a given material whatever he wants, while God shows his power by starting from nothing to make all he wants."

a) God implies given need aka natural...an artisan ignores natural (perceivable) for artificial (suggested), hence choosing want over need.

b) God implies start (inception) and finish (death) for each Christ (life) within. Only temporary matter perceives ongoing motion from a differentiated position, hence from in-between start and finish.

c) Make/mag implies magic/mason/amass/match/mingle/mongrel aka equalizing differences by artificially putting together that which nature sets apart from one another.

The Catholic perspective is at odds with your premise

a) Premise implies before (pre) being send (mittere), hence before implying each forwarded (inception towards death) being (life) aka odds (choice) within even (balance) aka ones perception within all perceivable.

b) Ones consent to suggested catholiscism tempts one to choose a side (cathode over anode), which positions ones odd choice into an uneven imbalance (cathode vs anode) called "reason".

I agree your premise by itself is self-consistent

a) Agree implies versus disagree...hence not by oneself, but against another. Choosing to hold onto a side contradicts premise aka pre + mise (action/reaction aka balance/choice). You represent the mise (perception) within pre (perceivable)...agreeing or disagreeing with suggested tempts you to ignore that. Your agreeing or disagreeing mind chose to bind itself to the suggestion of another, hence not operating by itself as "free" will of choice anymore.

Reason (agree vs disagree) or implication (if/then) implies imbalance or balance for ones free will of choice.

b) Self-consistent implies a contradiction in terms...con (together) contradicts self (apart).

from a different metaphysic model

Being implies difference (perception) within sameness (perceivable)...a model implies likeness (suggestion). Few tempt many with suggested models to give consent "alike", which in return equalizes differences among many.

Equalizing differences represents the main modus operandi for few to destroy many aka tikkun olam (healing the world by bringing together) aka e pluribus unum (out of many, one) aka united states; united nations; european union; united kingdom; soviet union; unisex; unicode; uniform; universe; unicef; usb (universal serial bus); unilever aka replacement migration; mongrelizatino; melting pot; miscegenation aka "there comes a time when we need to heed a certain call; when the world has to come together as one" etc.

In short...few collectivize many together, while nature separates each one from another.

If you think of Plato's the Forms and then imagine God as simultaneously the source of light and the object source from which the shadow scenes are cast, neither the light source nor the true object are present in the shadows on the wall, only the energies that come from them.

a) Energy (internal/inherent power) implies singular aka whole for each partial coming into being within. Flow/form aka loss/growth aka impression/expression imply the inherent powers within energy. All is one in energy aka there can be only one aka one for all and all for one aka alone...ALL(in)ONE.

b) Light implies source aka motion (light) > momentum (spectrum) > matter (rays). Being implies each ray/race within the visible spectrum of light. Few mix white (pure light) and black (absence of light) together to obfuscate the visible spectrum of light. One cannot see pure light (white), nor the absence of light (black), while within the visible spectrum of light. The artificial suggestion of white and black tempt one to ignore naturally perceivable aka ones discernment (white) or ignorance (black) representing purification or absentmindedness.

That is to say nothing of the divine substance is actually divided from in order to create.

a) Actual divides into re-actual; substance divides into essence; sound divides into saying; order divides into chaos; everything divides into each thing etc.

b) Chaos creates by ignoring order...order (inception towards death) destroys whatever chaos (life) creates. Taking suggested creationism (out of nothing aka nihil-ism) out of that, while using implication...if order (ongoing loss); then chaos (temporary growth), hence each ones struggle to grow (living) during loss (dying).

c) Fictional (suggested information) tempts one to ignore actual (perceivable inspiration)...the former tempts ones consent to hold onto it; while the latter moves through one and cannot be held onto.

Few suggest fictional (words) to distract many from actual (sound)...spell-craft.

"what about that wall?"

A mason of free (will of choice) utilizes suggested information as bricks, and consent as mortar, to build walls of ignorance within others. It's this internal wall of ignorance within gentiles which each jew externally bewails by a) cramming wishes into the cracks and b) fertilizing it aka fuck/fugge - "joint"

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugger_family (fugger was originally spelled fucker)
- https://masonrycontractors.fugen.com.au/

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 monthMar 11, 2025 06:48:41 ago (+0/-0)

Your chatbot gets things wrong (like calling "self-consistent contradictory). It looks like you are manually entering chunks to see what it says.

There isn't anything in that reply that touches on the substance of what I said. It spends most of its time breaking down words, looking for etymologies, and generally missing the forest for the trees.

As AI prose poetry it's neat, but there's nothing in it that compels further dialogue.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 11, 2025 08:07:18 ago (+0/-0)

Your chatbot

I don't use any bots. It's all me adapting to perceivable inspiration on the fly.

like calling "self-consistent" contradictory

- https://www.etymonline.com/word/consist
- https://www.etymonline.com/word/self

How could one be self, while standing together (con-sist) with others? Consistency isn't self expression, but hive-mind suppression of self aka like-minded behavior.

you are manually entering

Being implies in-between (life) enter (inception) and exit (death) aka manual growth during auto loss.

There isn't anything in that reply that touches on the substance of what I said

a) I draw from inspiration; you judge information. Notice your use of "isn't" aka IS NOTHING...that's fiction.

b) Being implies essence (form) within substance (flow), hence essence/esse - "to be" aka towards (inception towards death) being (life).

It spends most of its time breaking down words

From God to Christ implies a breaking down of sound into instrument. Sound separates internally; words externally join LETTERS together. Ones consent to a suggested word LETS others shape.

Others instrumentalize your consent to shape words (fiction) within sound (reality), which represents spell-craft.

looking for etymologies

a) Looking implies locking onto words while ignoring that sound moves.

b) Etymos (actual) is being corrupted by logic (fiction)...if consented to. That's why I break apart (etymo-logy) what others craft together (etymology). I simply reverse engineer spell-craft.

there's nothing in it

Aka ones de-nial (nihilo; nothing) of everything perceivable when passing judgement upon suggested.

that compels further dialogue

a) Dia (two) logue (logic/reason)...a conflict of one turning against other ones.

b) Suggested compel/compellere - "driving together" contradicts all perceivable driving each ones perception apart from one another.

The force of nature frees one from others...it doesn't compel one to others. Christen, verb - "to anoint" implies separation by unction, hence each off-spring coming into being through the birth-channel aka from all/oil into each one.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 monthMar 11, 2025 08:17:25 ago (+0/-0)

I like your style

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1 monthMar 11, 2025 09:32:41 ago (+0/-0)

One needs to resist wanting to be "alike" another. It's few who suggest many to "Like, Share, and Subscribe"...

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason -1 points 1 monthMar 9, 2025 12:07:19 ago (+0/-1)

The First Stage in the Evolution of the Soul is Self-Awareness

a) Soul/sole (one and only) can only evolve (unfold) inwards, hence that within (perception) being enabled to become aware of being separated from (perceivable).

b) Soul/sole implies energy (internal power). If energy implies first; then second implies seco (to divide) aka the division of external energy into internal powers aka evolution of beings.

The 2nd is Creating a God

a) The (the-ism) implies a 3rd party suggesting ones perception (2nd; seco; divide) to ignore all perceivable (1st).

1st (perceivable) > 2nd (perception) > 3rd (suggestion)...suggestion tempts perception to ignore perceivable.

b) Ones consent to suggested the-ism permits another (a chosen one) to further suggest creation-ism (creatio ex nihilo) in the name of (in nomine) God.

If 1st (perceivable) > 2nd (perception), then there cannot be creation out of nothing. YET...if one ignores everything perceivable for suggested creationism out of nothing, then ones ignorance/de-nial (nihilo; nothing) can be used against one.

after

If before implies forwarded (inception towards death) being (life), then suggested "after" tempts one to ignore being forwarded by origin.

Notice that after/aft represents the stern of a ship...indicating the origin its coming from.

Stern is German for "star"... https://genius.com/Moby-we-are-all-made-of-stars-lyrics