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What globetards treat as proof is no different to what any other religion considers as proof.

Im not claiming i can bounce a laser off a hologram you are.

I've never thought that I should do something just b/c everyone else is doing it and that extends to how and what I think. I referred to you all as ball-earthers as a distinction b/c that's a lot nicer than globe-tard.
I looked at your linked debate and have to disagree that it was a debate as you did not address GetFucked's initial concerns as follows:

"Why dont we discuss our vision and how the horizon is optical, not geometrical?

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Level = flat, horizontal.

Level is not a "zoomed in part of a sphere."

A sphere has 1 continously curved surface, no flat faces regardless of scale."

You claim that the globe earth model hasn't significantly changed since its discovery after admitting earlier that "It was considered to be mostly spherical up until about 50 years ago, but we now know it is quite lopsided, now termed 'oblate spheroid'."

Your 'zoom in to see past the horizon' comment is funny b/c there are a number of high powered camera doing just that to show that ships do not disappear over the horizon as claimed.

There's other things in the "debate" you mentioned/ linked to that are also lame, especially putting so much stock into what the joos at NASA/ Black Science Man tells you to believe.

I got into FE b/c the smartest guy I know came to me with it and I thought I would have no problem showing him why he was being retarded. Well, it turns out even if you are looking into it critically in order to disavow FE, it brings up an incredible number of problems with ball earth model. A few things I had major problems with are water level, horizon meeting the observer, vacuums require a barrier, there are many, many places we can see too far, the stars as viewed from earth and the formula for curvature is actually retarded. They have changed how far the atmosphere extends since we "went to the moon" but no one comments on how this would change a lot of math to get there. I already thought the moon landing was fake long before FE but it's just another example of lies involving the earth. This is not an exhaustive list. Many people even on this site have written more eloquently and more intelligently than me.

To clarify, I in no way claim to know the shape of the earth other than I believe we are clearly on a flat, stationary area. This is important however because think of the difference in one's world view when you think you are an insignificant speck on a rock hurtling though the vast emptiness of space vs. the idea that earth is a very special place for us.