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I don’t know that much about freemasons. I know theyve included jews for a long time.

I think we should be cautious about inferring too much from a conversation between jews drawing from experiences in a jewish context.

Jews would be concerned about whether freemasonry is “kosher” — the guy calls it Noahide to indicate that its religiously acceptable for jews, not because he sees it as a medium to spread the jew world order.

They don’t see anything controversial about Noahide. They don’t see anything controversial about the IDF. Its just where alot of other jews have a bonding experience.

Im not saying jews in freemasonry don’t promote a harmful jew world view within those organizations. Im just saying its not as conscious a conspiracy as is believed around here.

It is all very well to blame Freemasons for the world's evils, despite some lodges do appear to have been a front for subversive activities, all it does is smokescreen the real villainy holed out in Mossad dominated Jewish enclaves world wide! Italy’s Secret Government - The P2 Lodge.


Let's get this Freemasons stuff straight, it is a giant con job .. in the United Kingdom one needed to be a Freemason to gain industrial employment, while members were obliged to buy costly apparel for lodge meetings and to pay substantial fees and "taxes". While any rank and file member who aspired to progress to the higher degrees of Freemasonry, received the negative reply courteous as per Touchstone in Shakespeare's As You Like It, that quickly turned to churlishness and drawn swords in the face of persistence.

The lodges were franchised insofar as building funds and construction schedules were financed by members contributions, on the understanding that like the Pyramids in Egypt the buildings would stand forever. Thus in 1954 my uncle took me along when he went to pay his capitation fees at the local Freemason's Lodge in Adelaide, South Australia that had been slated for foreclosure, he showed me grandfather's name ascribed on a plaque bearing the names of past office holders.

The woman present declined to accept his coin and a bulldozer demolished the structure a short time later, the plaque with grandfather's name was splintered wreckage visible among piles of shattered masonry and broken marble tiles.

Masons have been employed since the construction of the pyramids and before, they are the skilled tradesmen who travel from worksite to worksite, in the old days they were journeyman carpenters and stonemasons. Add welders, riggers, mechanical engineers and architects, then substitute power stations for cathedrals and pipelines for aqueducts, and know the tradition is alive still.

Pyramid of Cheops.

These peoples trade skills enable the transformation of drawings on paper into real time three dimensional structures of steel and stone, they were paid in Cheops' time and still are, the edifice complex that drives the egos of kings, despots and popes fuels the journeyman worker’s lifestyle. They pay to keep skilled foreign tradesmen while indigenous populations are taxed into the ground to pay for it all.

Who then become envious then hostile that their country’s wealth is being squandered, the foreign oil workers employed in today’s Niger Delta regarded that way no less than King Mausolus of Caria’s stonemasons, for those reasons the skilled imported workforce kept to itself remaining similarly defensive of its own situation.

Steps of Freemasonry.

Entry into the guilds and trades that made up mason infrastructure was highly selective and involved lengthy apprenticeships and training schedules, reflected in the orders various degrees and levels of attainment in the freemasons lodges of today. Their comeback to criticism is that they are working for wages, if the pope the king or the oil companies want the job done and if the money is right they are up to the task, all involved the masons, the king and their clients know the local workforce lacks the skills.

The journeyman lifestyle brought them into lands with differing theological values, for that reason and so that they could remain aloof from local religious politics and squabbles, the Masons developed a charter of universal acceptance under the aegis of a divine creator who demanded good and who punished misdeeds.

They were on a good wicket paid well and living in comfortable well found accommodation, the job was going ahead while strict guild rules saw to it that accidental death and injury was rare, that food and accommodation was up to scratch, and that payment was received for money earned, else by guild rules they would stop work or "go on strike," as it is called today.

Trade unions have Masonic origins, the Freemasons Lodge evolved as people from outside the traditional mason infrastructure sought to emulate their success, so they adopted the camaraderie, the strictures and the mores that they had observed established thru the morale and character building work ethic of the traveling workmen.

No gain without pain though, the populace where the cathedral, palace or mausoleum gets built get the rough end of the pineapple most of the time, the workman reasons that local politics are not his affair and the job goes on provided guild requirements are met. Lingering resentment is still felt throughout some places re this state of affairs, reflected in the hate directed at Freemasons on internet forums for instance.

Some freemasons lodges appear to have been infiltrated by antisocial elements who have conducted subversive activities, using the traditional reticence of Masonry as a cover for their illegal agenda, these people are regarded as private citizens as far as their curricular activities outside of Freemasonry is concerned. Thus criminals are regarded as criminals no matter what, the Masonic response to a fellow Mason who is a criminal or who has been charged, must be that the matter should proceed under the law with truth as punctually as is practicable.

What the hell is noahide?