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[ - ] DitchPig 3 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 07:51:14 ago (+5/-2)

Nicotine is also the single best neuroprotectant that we know of.

Smoke cigars, not cigarettes, and it's not even addictive.

[ - ] x0x7 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:52:12 ago (+5/-3)

Well that last sentence proved you are a moron.

[ - ] DitchPig 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:12:48 ago (+3/-1)

Oh no! Did I contradict a long-held belief of yours that is based on bullshit?

Poor dear.

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:40:50 ago (+1/-0)

Parrot more Government propaganda cunt.

The people behind mrna, covid, niggers, vlimate change have our best interests at heart.

Thats why they took tobacco away for so many.

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:39:21 ago (+1/-0)

Smoke a pipe. Even better.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 11 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 08:27:44 ago (+11/-0)

Fun fact: Tobacco farms were convinced by the government to use nuclear waste as a fertilizer to increase crop production. That is why many tobacco products have a detectable trace amount of uranium in it. Look it up, it's a fascinating story of greed and corruption. Before then tobacco was never considered a dangerous carcinogen

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:11:36 ago (+2/-2)

Tobacco grown without modification isn't carcinogenic. It's the burning of it that is.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:35:20 ago (+3/-1)

Why does chewing tobacco cause mouth cancer? Is it something done in the processing?

[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:13:48 ago (+1/-0)

You believe it does. Where did you did you get the belief from?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 17:04:23 ago (+2/-0)

Concurrent hypermethylation of multiple regulatory genes in chewing tobacco associated oral squamous cell carcinomas and adjacent normal tissues https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S136883750300143X

Whole genome expression profiling in chewing-tobacco-associated oral cancers: a pilot study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25663065/

Genome-wide disease association study in chewing tobacco associated oral cancers https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22503698/

I can get more. The carcinogen may not be nicotine and it may be introduced during processing but I think theres pretty solid evidence that chewing tobacco causes mouth cancer.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 03:25:21 ago (+0/-0)

Those are studies, not evidence.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 11:30:56 ago (+0/-0)

They contain evidence. Read one of them.

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:38:26 ago (+1/-0)

Nope. Wrong judeo-nigger.
Repeated damage from hot smoke is.

Same way asbestos causes cancers. Small repeated injuries to tissue.

Keep your mouth moist. No need to inhale to lungs. No need to smoke 50 in an hour. Brush ya teeth.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:23:52 ago (+0/-0)

Yoo treynah sey uh nigga gat deyt draygin brefises?!

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 5 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 08:37:59 ago (+6/-1)

Well I'm 49 smoke a shit load of cigars like 3 a day and I can still bench press 225 three sets of 10 and weight about 185 pounds.

Those numbers put me some where in the top 5 percent of the world on strength to weight ratio.

[ - ] Clubberlang 4 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:13:33 ago (+5/-1)

Do you still get hard staring at yourself in the mirror at the gym?

[ - ] JudyStroyer 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:50:56 ago (+1/-0)

He gets moist, not hard.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:24:16 ago (+1/-0)

Touche douche

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 11:45:15 ago (+1/-0)

Im concerned that you think physical strength is a good predictor of longevity. It isn’t. High BMI is a predictor of shorter lifespan and that includes more muscular low fat physiques. It is the reason women have a slightly longer lifespan on average. The extra muscle seems to come at a cost of accelerated cellular senescence. Some longevity drugs like rapamycin suppress the same horomonal signalling pathways that body builders try to activate, like mTOR. Consider lowering the BMI.

The cigars are doing damage at the cellular level. It may never catch up with you in the form of lung/oral cancer. But better safe than sorry imo. It’s not doing anything good.

I take astaxanthin which is a really strong antioxident shown to reduce cancer rates in smokers/ex-smokers ( I used to smoke a pack a day.) Stay away from vitamin A/ beta carotene supplements which may increase cancer in smokers. You dont need to eliminate it from your diet, just dont take extra.

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 11:47:31 ago (+0/-0)

How tall are you?

[ - ] Peleg 4 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 08:44:53 ago (+4/-0)

Sometime in the mid teens Rush had one show where he talked about this. Some scientists somewhere had discovered that certain strains of tobacco was curing certain cancers.
It was like the show he did on nambla. One show, then never ever speak of it again.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:14:27 ago (+0/-0)

By smoking it or chewing it.

I think there's a difference in the way you intake it to the body.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:47:03 ago (+1/-0)

Are we still talking about nambla?

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:26:32 ago (+1/-0)

🤣 gaaaaaaaay

[ - ] Peleg 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:29:42 ago (+0/-0)

It is still around.

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 16:39:40 ago (+2/-0)

I know. Neri keeps sending me registration

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 08:49:29 ago (+3/-3)

Tucker forgot to mention that nicotine is highly addictive

[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:42:30 ago (+1/-0)

Have you smoked?
I smoke my home grown tobacco?
Why am i not addicted?

Why are you a Government shill?

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:22:39 ago (+1/-1)

Correct.

Nicotine is on par, or even higher than cocaine on the spectrum of addiction. Only Fentanyl ranks higher than those two.

[ - ] Sal_180 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:57:45 ago (+2/-1)

He probably has shares in the company. Telling people nicotine is good for you is a low point

[ - ] carnold03 5 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:07:46 ago (+6/-1)

The problem with cigarettes wasn't the nicotine itself, but the build up of toxins due to the industry refusing to switch from conventional oven curing to microwave oven curing and the addition of other toxic chemicals to make them more addictive. You're better off growing your own tobacco, curing the leaves in your microwave oven, and making your own cigars and cigarettes. The tools to do it are dirt cheap now thanks to China.

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 11 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:20:46 ago (+13/-2)

Nicotine itself might not be cancerous, but the other toxic shit in tobacco most certainly is.

I've witnessed first hand the slow death via throat-lung cancer of family members and friends who smoked daily for 4-5 decades. It isn't pretty. Add to this that even after their cancer diagnoses they still struggled to quit smoking.

Anyone who claims Nicotine is NOT addictive is gaslighting the fuck out of you.

[ - ] DitchPig 4 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:36:41 ago (+4/-0)

The stuff in cigarettes is no more tobacco than the paper in a book is wood.

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 3 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:40:12 ago (+3/-0)

Exactly. They soak it in multiple chemical baths to specifically alter the tobacco prior to rolling it.

[ - ] allAheadFull 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:27:51 ago (+2/-0)

The filters are full of toxic shit too.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:53:33 ago (+0/-0)

Cigars are boss.

[ - ] 9000timesempty 3 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:47:32 ago (+3/-0)

I'm trying to quit I switched to pouches but they're just not strong enough but the cigarettes are just getting gross...

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:35:32 ago (+2/-0)

Best of luck friend!

Remember that your lungs can actually heal off some of the damage over time. It's never to late.

[ - ] 2017Fallout 1 point 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 04:32:41 ago (+1/-0)

I quit by taking the approach that rather than stopping I decided to smoke 24/7 for one month. I smoked myself sick and whilst actually drawing in the smoke thought about the poison turning my mouth and throat and lung cells carcinogenic. At the end of the month I stopped and never when back. Not Smoked for 20yrs.

[ - ] registereduser 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:30:45 ago (+0/-0)

So called 'addiction' is just a euphemism for weak minded faggot.

[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:35:57 ago (+2/-2)

1. Explain people who smoked for decades harm free. No one eats lead or arsenic harm free.

2. Why is throat and lung cancer rates still high when smoking isn't?

3. Since when do Governments bans on salt, meat, butter, guns, tobacco be done for our benefit?

4. Trust the science?

Honestly you think like a nigger.

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:34:29 ago (+1/-0)

Everyone I witnessed getting their trachea removed, and having a stoma replacing it... smoked pack(s) daily.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:34:55 ago (+1/-0)

Explain people who smoked for decades harm free. No one eats lead or arsenic harm free.

No one smokes for decades harm free. Some people do not live long enough to die of lung cancer or COPD. The variation can be due to good genes and diet or lower doses of carcinogens leading to slower progression of pathology.

People eat lead and arsenic harm free every day. Its in everything. Dosage is important. In fact we need trace amounts of arsenic to be healthy. It was added to animal feed until about 5 years ago because it increases growth in young livestock. Its not a mutagen unlike tobacco. It accelerates the growth of cancer but doesn’t cause it.

Kikes live off addictive substances like tobacco. Its a form of parasitism. Its a voluntary tax.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 17:24:45 ago (+0/-0)

Keep poisoning yourself goy, it's good for you!

[ - ] _Obrez -1 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:59:44 ago (+2/-3)

Nicotine is carcinogenic but so is crispy bacon.

Isolated nicotine inhaled via a vape is carcinogenic but the cancer rate for vaping appears to be infinitesimally smaller than smoking and that may be a result of inhaling trace amounts of carbon steel/nickel

With smoking there are additives, tar/oils, burnt carbon, heat, and shitloads of fine particulates you are inhaling. Thia is why biden banning chimp cigs was kinda smart, my dad worked at RJR he told us they had internal data showing which cigs likely killed more people and so he only let my mom smoke full flavor, he told all of us to never smoke but if we did NEVER smoke lights or menthols and never, ever smoke menthol lights(chimp cigs) menthol opens your alvioli and the lights burn much hotter meaning you are opening your lungs up to far more damage with each drag.

To be clear nicotine is a natural pesticide and anti microbial on complex life it is a poison on microscopic life it is a dagger, it is a sharp molecule and it tears cell walls this is why it is Carcinogenic, it probably does increase testosterone but you might as well just be taking hornygoat weed and keeping your hands out of your own pants and stick to energy drinks and coffee.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:30:36 ago (+0/-0)

The rest of the cig is a carcinogen. Nicotine itself isn't.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:17:21 ago (+0/-0)

Ding Ding Ding we have a weiner!

[ - ] fritz_maurentod 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:34:43 ago (+1/-0)

Don't skip leg day and do your squats for testosterone.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 12:07:39 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Fascinus 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 12:53:09 ago (+0/-0)

Ass to grass.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:38:57 ago (+1/-0)

I'm looking at research on this and what I'm seeing is when they gave nicotine to mice it lowered their testosterone level not raised it.

But what I'm also seeing is studies that show that men who are smokers have a higher testosterone level than those who dont.

So what I'm beginning to think is that high testosterone males do more risky behavior and the smoking doesn't raise their testosterone level. they already had it high and that's one of the reasons they took up the risky behavior of smoking. Because fuck it I'm a man and I can do it.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:34:06 ago (+2/-0)

There also seems to be a neuro-protective effect associated with nicotine. Perhaps there is some low dose which is optimal and does not increase risk of heart attack/stroke?

Ive also read that smoking reduces the risk of certain autoimmune diseases. NIcotine was also shown to have a protective effect in covid infections due to its affinity for the ACE-2 receptor or something like that.

I quit years ago and am glad to be rid of the habit.

[ - ] Sector2 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 12:45:02 ago (+1/-0)

I was thinking of burning a few leaves, but am finding the seeds impossible to germinate. Used to smoke actual cigarettes way back, then switched to kuda kreteks for awhile before quitting. Plain leaves without anything added might not be entirely healthy, but just being alive causes death.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 17:12:26 ago (+1/-0)

I get the impression that kuda kreteks are some sort of foreign clove cigarette? Sorry you did not have more success with germination. I smoked from 15 to 30 or thereabouts. I take astaxanthin now to ward off the lung cancer. I understand that some diabetic drugs like metformin and pioglitazone are prophylactic for lung cancer in ex-smokers.

but just being alive causes death

Its usually best to put it off to 80 or 90.

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:48:33 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, a very tasty and spicy clove cig. Was before my hot pepper infatuation, so that was probably a good thing. Maybe next spring I'll try a different variety, and maybe from a different company. Clones would be too much to hope for.

My dad went to 94 and grandpa went to 92. We'll see.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:06:57 ago (+1/-0)

Was before my hot pepper infatuation, so that was probably a good thing.

Sounds like theres a spicy story there.

Maybe next spring I'll try a different variety,

Cigarette? Or hot pepper?

3 of my GPs died before 70, I think. My dad’s dad made it to 91 if I recall. He smoked for 30 years too. Good genes I guess. Dad go make it that long too I think. Hopefully Ive got them. Id like to get my hands on some rapamycin to be safe.

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:19:09 ago (+0/-0)

Cigarette? Or hot pepper?

Tobacco seeds. Or maybe I'll lose interest by then. They're a pain in the ass so far. Part of the interest was it's an attractive plant, but I have 90 some potted plants already. Including seeds and spores, 4 of them offering way more than nicotine can.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 19:39:33 ago (+0/-0)

Tobacco seeds

Oh haha I forgot about them.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:39:45 ago (+3/-1)

Nicotine has clear benefits to the human animal.
Nonetheless it is among the most addictive chemicals I've ever encountered.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:42:41 ago (+2/-0)

Of course there is nicotine gum like nicorette so if you wanted the effects of nicotine which but I'm saying isn't that it raises testosterone but it does do things like induce a calm and focused mindset which is one of the reasons so many writers always smoke. So if you want that effect you can always do something like nicorette gum.

Of course nicotine does contract your arteries significantly which is one of the reasons that many people who use nicotine have heart attacks and strokes. If they already have a clog blood vessel and they get the massive restriction of the blood vessel associated with nicotine then that can cut off blood supply and give them a heart attack or stroke.

[ - ] GreenSaint 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:46:19 ago (+2/-2)

Nicotine is fucking gay. You wanna be the bitch of some fucking substance then yea fucking a I have a million reasons why you SHOULD use tobacco. Fucking faggots wake the fuck up. This is like saying meth makes you more alert. It does, but trust me the negatives outweigh the positives. Go ahead though put yourself through a life long pain in the ass fuck it idc

[ - ] BoozyB 5 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:51:15 ago (+5/-0)*

An interesting (and long) article that speculates that craving nicotine may be partially due to vitamin B3 deficiency, especially in teenagers. Many links to government research archives.
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2012/01/25/does_smoking_tobacco_fulfill_a_nutritional_need.htm

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 10:19:40 ago (+1/-1)

That is absolutely established for some time now. Its possible that the war on smoking was somewhat motivated by this. High T guys are difficult to control and enslave. I think maybe “smokers voice” might be due to T, to some extent.

But I dont think raising T levels is necessarily a good thing for every male. It probably reduces life expectancy by a couple years. Niggers and spics have significantly higher T than whites.

Hormesis is a term that describes beneficial response at low doses but harm at higher doses—the goldie locks zone. Everyone has met roided out gym assholes. They have too much T.

Oh don’t forget BPH. 50% of men over 50, 80% of men over 80. Testosterone is gasoline on that fire.

[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:23:54 ago (+1/-0)

Black men have higher estrogen than White men. Find out tha's what makes them violent.

THe crap they use as their template for the "kill the Whites" new age religion through media and marketing is blavatsky's theosophy drivel. Everyone has to be vegetarian because it says meat eating makes people violent. Every leftist believes that without believing it in words because it's so stupid.

What the jews of that book mean is vegetarianism provides no energy and makes people complaint and stupid.

Vegetarian women only say they don't believe in violence, and it's the opposite. They support whatever policy causes violence and have nothing against violence from non Whites. Tell them 60,000 Nigerians were killed by muslims for being Christian and watch their reaction. THey're the ones who explode and attack verbally and physically. Estrogen.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 16:50:40 ago (+2/-0)

Nope. In the whole of the animal world, all the animals with high levels of testoserone demonstrate high violence. Males have a need to be highly violent in order to eliminate other male competitors and fertilize more females. This is a strategy that works for males because males have cheap reproduction and can be highly reproductive through violence. The testosterone is the hormone that primes male brains for violence.

Animals with high estrogen—females— display lower violence by a full order of magnitude or more. Black men may have higher estrogen than white men because there is more available testosterone in blacks for conversion to estrogen by aromotase, which is produced by fat tissue. But they don’t have more estrogen than women and they aren’t violent because theyre “more like women” lol. Isn’t that what you are implying? Why would mother nature select women to be more violent then men? What evidence is there that white women, who have more estrogen, are more violent than white men? Only every prison and every war since the beginning of civilization demonstrates otherwise. Men are violent and murder far more than women and male animals are far more violent than female ones.

meat eating makes people violent.

I don’t know if meat eating makes people violent or not. I haven’t read anything on the subject. But producing meat is violent. And not coincidentally, it is usually done by men. Women are squeamish about killing because their brains are not primed in the juice of violence— testosterone.

Vegetarian women only say they don't believe in violence, and it's the opposite. They support whatever policy causes violence and have nothing against violence from non Whites.

Correlation is not causation dude. Youre doing the same thing they are when they say meat causes violence. Vegetarianism does not cause white hate or irrational leftism. Hitler was a vegetarian and so am I. Do I need to demonstrate my right wing bona fides or does my reputation precede me?

[ - ] Stonkmar 2 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 11:25:06 ago (+2/-0)

They believed smoking tobacco kept you from the black plague: https://bookscrounger.com/black-death-tobacco-addiction/

[ - ] Nosferatjew 3 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 13:07:10 ago (+3/-0)

Ok, if nicotine raises testosterone, then explain why vapers are all such faggots.

[ - ] JudyStroyer -1 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:57:24 ago (+0/-1)

Smoking to increase t is like doing heroin to last longer in bed. Yeah, it’s effective at that for sure, but there are going to be side-effects.

[ - ] DitchPig -1 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 20:04:46 ago (+0/-1)

Kvetch harder, kike.

[ - ] JudyStroyer -1 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 23:40:49 ago (+0/-1)

Hey bitchtits, was wondering how long before you were back on my nuts.

[ - ] DitchPig -1 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 09:26:10 ago (+0/-1)

Could you be more of a faggot?

Probably not, eh?

[ - ] JudyStroyer -1 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:39:25 ago (+0/-1)

It is impossible for me to be any level of faggot, including “more”, bitchtits. You are correct.

[ - ] DitchPig -1 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:39:59 ago (+0/-1)

Nice self pwn.

So clever, fag.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:41:25 ago (+0/-0)

You are adorable in your relentless pursuit of my dick.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 12:42:39 ago (+0/-0)

Homo harder, fag.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 16:34:09 ago (+0/-0)

Are ya? Thats a weird statement to make, I get that you are calling me a fag, which is fine, man. I call my best friends faggot all the time. Makes it seem like you and i are actually friends…but it’s the way you proclaim “homo harder” in the third person like that that kind of makes you sound like you might be a little retarded; and I definitely don’t hang out with retards. So now I know we can’t be friends.

[ - ] 9000timesempty 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:53:55 ago (+1/-0)

I got nicotine poisoning from two brands of over-the-counter Vapes and it caused seizures both times. Busted my head open on a client's driveway and second wrecked my car.
Both instances I was stressed and hitting them a tad much...

[ - ] Niggly_Puff 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 18:02:08 ago (+1/-0)

Vaping is much better than cigarettes but disposables are horrible for you. There is no reason to buy that made in china bullshit. Get a uwell caliburn.