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Shocker Poll: Trump Verdict Actually Does Matter to Voters—Big-Time

submitted by Sal_180 to politics 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 09:25:27 ago (+0/-1)     (newrepublic.com)

https://newrepublic.com/article/182810/shocker-poll-trump-verdict-actually-matter-votersbig-time



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[ - ] bossman131 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 17:02:03 ago (+0/-0)

Back in 2016 many of the "polls" had Clinton 96%, and Trump 4% to win the election.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 19:32:48 ago (+0/-0)

1. "Polls" didn't have Clinton at 96%. Pundits did. Polls don't work that way.

2. Popularity polls are worthless. We do not elect presidents by popular vote, so taking a nationwide popularity vote doesn't reflect any reality in the politics of running for president.

[ - ] Peleg 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 13:45:07 ago (+0/-0)

The (((newrepublic.com))) seems an awful lot like the same old commie bullshit.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 11:05:23 ago (+2/-0)

If this were true, why are exactly NONE of the state's polling reflective of this change?

Trump is still winning in all 7 swing states, 2 by such a large margin that they aren't considered "swing states" any more, and VA a once "leans Biden" state is now within 1 percentage point?

Of course, politico is famous for pushing the russiagate hoax and the "Russian disinformation laptop hoax" and many other anti-trump stories that turned out to be total lies.

[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 13:05:18 ago (+0/-0)

So, you're saying polling is accurate?

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 14:07:00 ago (+0/-0)

As accurate as the Russia collusion hoax and the claim that Hunter budens laptop was Russian disinformation.

If it was accurate, wouldn't the state polls at real clear politics reflect a change?

[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 16:13:42 ago (+0/-0)

Simple yes or no. You claim trump is ahead in the swing states in polls. Do you believe that accurately reflects the vote if voting took place now?

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 17:44:46 ago (+0/-0)

In a free and fair election, taken today, Trump would win 312-226.

[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 18:16:38 ago (+0/-0)

So, you're saying polls are correct.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 19:30:03 ago (+0/-0)

Why are you trying to restate what I'm saying?

What's "the polls"? Each poll has a methodology. Some are better than others. That's why real clear politics exists. They break the states down, and aggragate all the major polls and average out the various polls. Are they accurate? Some more than others.

[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 20, 2024 01:41:49 ago (+0/-0)

TCP had Biden winning the swing states in 2016. So at least you're admitting Biden won the election legitimately

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 11 monthsJun 20, 2024 06:44:12 ago (+0/-0)

Biden wasn't the nominee in 2016, fool. And yes, RCP had Biden winning in 2020. They don't now. And no, I did not admit Biden won legitimately. There is clear evidence too the contrary.

You tried to restate what I said, and I called you out for it. Now, you're just pretending that I actually said what you tried to restate. You're an utter fuckin' fag.

[ - ] Sal_180 [op] 0 points 11 monthsJun 20, 2024 11:31:56 ago (+0/-0)

Apologies, I meant 2020. RCP poll is to be trusted only when it suits you?
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[ - ] Reawakened 3 points 11 monthsJun 19, 2024 10:26:16 ago (+3/-0)

We talked to Ankush Khardori, a senior writer for Politico Magazine who oversaw this poll

Yeah. No bias detected.