The logic behind all those advancements and retreats follows the same logic: One at a time, so that there is always some theater going on while not doing anything too much and chaotically. They are trying to milk this distraction psyop to the fullest.
Ukraine has lost 400-700,000 people and is center stage for a potential launch of world War 3, and the massive majority of the country not only has no fucking idea what's going on, but thinks Ukraine is winning the war.
Who is being distracted and what do you feel is more important of an event that needs distraction from?
More people are watching Israel slaughter Palestinians than could remotely give one fuck about Ukraine.
according to the one-sided, biased, anything but objective and hysterical western press, the russians are crushed to such an extent that it is a miracle that any of them are left
Kind reminder that i'm from estonia and the whole butthurt belt is focusing mostly on this topic. And yes, this psyop has a bonus of white genocide. The whole distraction psyop strategy has started mostly since 2016, with trump and hillary. Then they ramped up it with covid and now ukraine. The populace has been so desensitized with "happenings" that they have to pump those all the time with even bigger drums, even if it leads to total war and maybe even ayylmao hoax.
What advancements and retreats?
One at a time, so that there is always some theater going on while not doing anything too much and chaotically. Kindly reminder to read my post.
Russtard ignores the probable 100,000 Russian soldiers dead, the billions in material lost, and oil refineries going boom. Nobody is winning the "special military operation".
Keep dreamin' faggot. Why the fuck do you give one shit if Russians are killed and money is wasted? NATO said that if the there was a push to expand NATO to include Ukraine, and Russia said that if Ukraine didn't stop killing their own people I'm the donbass, Russia would move in to protect them. They tried to expand NATO and Ukraine didn't stop killing their own people. So, Russia moved in.
This was all avoidable and the only thing the needed to happen was that NATO promised to not court Ukraine for membership as promised.
Now, 3/4 of a million dead people later, and the lines look almost exactly the same as they did 1 month after the incursion began, Ukraine will NEVER be a part of NATO, and Ukraine is no longer killing their own people in the Donbass.
How many more hundreds of billions of dollars should we send to Ukraine to continue this abject failure of an effort?
Ukraine is no longer capable of inflicting actual damage to the Russian military and is relegated to terrorist attacks and drone strikes on civilian targets. Meanwhile, they are losing tens of thousands of troops a month, the average age of their military is over 50, and the civilian population is hopelessly fucked.
Why the fuck do you give one shit if Russians are killed and money is wasted?
My position from the beginning is that this has been a pointless brother war, bad for both sides. Why are you taking the Russtard position?
This was all avoidable
Yes, it was. Putin was the one who chose to invade, causing far more death and damage between both Russians and Ukrainians than had ever occurred in the 7+ years prior to the invasion.
This is a pointless brother war that can only happen as long as the US and EU send Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons and money. It ends the moment this stops.
And Putin did not choose to invade. The Russian Parlement authorized the incursion at the request of ethnic Russians being attacked by their own government for refusing to go along with a coup by the west and in response to NATO refusing to pledge that they would cease trying to make Ukraine a member of NATO. Added to this Biden and Harris making statements on the world stage about helping Ukraine join NATO and the EU. Oh, and Zelensky, who ran on a platform of peace with Russia, starting the application process to join NATO and the EU.
Even the most fierce critics of Putin acknowledge that Ukraine joining NATO is a direct threat to Russian sovereignty and security.
The Cuban Missile Crisis under Kennedy was an act of war against Cuba. The US "chose" to commit this act of war because Russian nuclear missiles 50 miles from a major US city was a direct threat to US security, and Russian war ships in Cuban harbors were a direct threat to our national sovereignty. We couldn't tolerate such a thing. Today, we would not tolerate China or Russia building military bases in Mexico or Canada and we would take direct action against either country if they allowed such a thing.
In Ukraine, the US has over a dozen secret CIA faculties spying on Russia, interfering with Russian affairs, and maintaining biological weapons manufacturing faculties right on the Russian border. No self respecting Russian would claim that to be acceptable. Ffs, the US blew up a Russian/German pipeline (Germany is an ally) to cut Germany off from receiving cheap Russian oil and gas, and the Germans are now paying 40% higher prices for energy as a result.
The head of NATO stated very clearly that Russia asked NATO to sign a pledge to cease trying to bring Ukraine into NATO and this alone would have prevented the incursion. NATO refused.
I'm not siding with Rusdia. I'm stating the facts. Ukraine is not winning. Ukraine was never winning. Ukraine was never going to win. Ukraine will never win. No amount of money or weapons is going to change that. All the money and weapons are doing is getting people killed for no reason. At this point, now that Russia and China are closer than ever, I doubt that even NATO troops on the ground in Ukraine would turn the tide against Russia.
Putin is not causing these deaths. Putin and the Russian Parlement are acting in the interests of Russian national security and national sovereignty in the exact same way the US or any western country would. These deaths are the direct result of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons and aid being funneled into Ukraine by greedy politicians who are getting rich as fuck off the skim.
The lines that will be drawn, were drawn about 1 month after the incursion and tens of thousands of Ukrainians will die, every month, until the war supply from the US and EU stops.
That's not taking Russia's side. That's simply stating the fucking obvious.
This is a pointless brother war that can only happen as long as the US and EU send Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons and money. It ends the moment this stops.
You're ignoring that Russia chose to invade in the first place. Ukraine has a right to defend itself and handle it's own affairs. Whining that the US and EU is going to take the gift of Russia grinding itself down in a war of attrition is pointless.
And Putin did not choose to invade.
And this is where talking to the Russtard monkey ends.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 23:50:48 ago (+1/-0)*
Hey, fucking nigger, it was the Russian Parlement that authorized the action, not the dictates of Putin, who just landslided his fucking election with record public approval, and they did so for the reasons stated, which you are ignoring. Russia will not allow Ukraine to join NATO or the EU. Putin's most staunch Russian critics AGREE WITH PUTIN that Ukraine must not be allowed to join NATO. The entire fucking Russian population agree with Putin that Ukraine must never be allowed to join NATO.
Ukraine is not defending itself, you utter fucking moron, and they most certainly are NOT handing their own affairs. How fucking retarded are you? They are dying for no reason, with ZERO FUCKING CHANCE OF EVER WINNING. Ukraine has been relegated to committing TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST CIVILIANS and drone striking CIVILIAN target. They are no longer capable of inflicting any damage to the Russian military and are paying huge losses for the mere threat of attack on Russian forces. Ukrainians dying for no fucking reason will continue until the weapons supply and the grifting money train stops. This is not hard to understand.
They're dead. That's unfortunate, but think about how much money the jews and their lackeys made. Surely a few dead white guys barely tarnish that achievement.
[ + ] NoSalvation
[ - ] NoSalvation 3 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 08:05:37 ago (+3/-0)
A distraction from the fact that npcs are about to be connected to the WWW via bluetooth
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 07:28:28 ago (+2/-0)
Ukraine has lost 400-700,000 people and is center stage for a potential launch of world War 3, and the massive majority of the country not only has no fucking idea what's going on, but thinks Ukraine is winning the war.
Who is being distracted and what do you feel is more important of an event that needs distraction from?
More people are watching Israel slaughter Palestinians than could remotely give one fuck about Ukraine.
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 2 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 09:29:36 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 [op] 1 point 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 07:50:52 ago (+1/-0)
And yes, this psyop has a bonus of white genocide.
The whole distraction psyop strategy has started mostly since 2016, with trump and hillary. Then they ramped up it with covid and now ukraine. The populace has been so desensitized with "happenings" that they have to pump those all the time with even bigger drums, even if it leads to total war and maybe even ayylmao hoax.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 07:53:20 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 09:13:30 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 10:12:41 ago (+0/-0)
This was all avoidable and the only thing the needed to happen was that NATO promised to not court Ukraine for membership as promised.
Now, 3/4 of a million dead people later, and the lines look almost exactly the same as they did 1 month after the incursion began, Ukraine will NEVER be a part of NATO, and Ukraine is no longer killing their own people in the Donbass.
How many more hundreds of billions of dollars should we send to Ukraine to continue this abject failure of an effort?
Ukraine is no longer capable of inflicting actual damage to the Russian military and is relegated to terrorist attacks and drone strikes on civilian targets. Meanwhile, they are losing tens of thousands of troops a month, the average age of their military is over 50, and the civilian population is hopelessly fucked.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 12:28:24 ago (+0/-0)
My position from the beginning is that this has been a pointless brother war, bad for both sides. Why are you taking the Russtard position?
Yes, it was. Putin was the one who chose to invade, causing far more death and damage between both Russians and Ukrainians than had ever occurred in the 7+ years prior to the invasion.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 15:33:15 ago (+0/-0)*
And Putin did not choose to invade. The Russian Parlement authorized the incursion at the request of ethnic Russians being attacked by their own government for refusing to go along with a coup by the west and in response to NATO refusing to pledge that they would cease trying to make Ukraine a member of NATO. Added to this Biden and Harris making statements on the world stage about helping Ukraine join NATO and the EU. Oh, and Zelensky, who ran on a platform of peace with Russia, starting the application process to join NATO and the EU.
Even the most fierce critics of Putin acknowledge that Ukraine joining NATO is a direct threat to Russian sovereignty and security.
The Cuban Missile Crisis under Kennedy was an act of war against Cuba. The US "chose" to commit this act of war because Russian nuclear missiles 50 miles from a major US city was a direct threat to US security, and Russian war ships in Cuban harbors were a direct threat to our national sovereignty. We couldn't tolerate such a thing. Today, we would not tolerate China or Russia building military bases in Mexico or Canada and we would take direct action against either country if they allowed such a thing.
In Ukraine, the US has over a dozen secret CIA faculties spying on Russia, interfering with Russian affairs, and maintaining biological weapons manufacturing faculties right on the Russian border. No self respecting Russian would claim that to be acceptable. Ffs, the US blew up a Russian/German pipeline (Germany is an ally) to cut Germany off from receiving cheap Russian oil and gas, and the Germans are now paying 40% higher prices for energy as a result.
The head of NATO stated very clearly that Russia asked NATO to sign a pledge to cease trying to bring Ukraine into NATO and this alone would have prevented the incursion. NATO refused.
I'm not siding with Rusdia. I'm stating the facts. Ukraine is not winning. Ukraine was never winning. Ukraine was never going to win. Ukraine will never win. No amount of money or weapons is going to change that. All the money and weapons are doing is getting people killed for no reason. At this point, now that Russia and China are closer than ever, I doubt that even NATO troops on the ground in Ukraine would turn the tide against Russia.
Putin is not causing these deaths. Putin and the Russian Parlement are acting in the interests of Russian national security and national sovereignty in the exact same way the US or any western country would. These deaths are the direct result of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons and aid being funneled into Ukraine by greedy politicians who are getting rich as fuck off the skim.
The lines that will be drawn, were drawn about 1 month after the incursion and tens of thousands of Ukrainians will die, every month, until the war supply from the US and EU stops.
That's not taking Russia's side. That's simply stating the fucking obvious.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 22:07:50 ago (+0/-0)
You're ignoring that Russia chose to invade in the first place. Ukraine has a right to defend itself and handle it's own affairs. Whining that the US and EU is going to take the gift of Russia grinding itself down in a war of attrition is pointless.
And this is where talking to the Russtard monkey ends.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 weeksApr 5, 2024 23:50:48 ago (+1/-0)*
Ukraine is not defending itself, you utter fucking moron, and they most certainly are NOT handing their own affairs. How fucking retarded are you? They are dying for no reason, with ZERO FUCKING CHANCE OF EVER WINNING. Ukraine has been relegated to committing TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST CIVILIANS and drone striking CIVILIAN target. They are no longer capable of inflicting any damage to the Russian military and are paying huge losses for the mere threat of attack on Russian forces. Ukrainians dying for no fucking reason will continue until the weapons supply and the grifting money train stops. This is not hard to understand.
[ + ] Reawakened
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