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Went to a conservative meeting this week where the topic of Israel came up. A conservative 'FJB' tears into HAMAS and HAMAS protesters calling them savages, saying Israel should wipe them off the face of the earth and angrily goes off about pro-Palestinian flags within a quarter mile of a Jewish Holocaust memorial. blah blah blah Glenn Beck propaganda.

I diplomatically try to steer him away from Israeli propaganda, stating that Israel is not the country he thinks it is. He then goes off on me telling me how HAMAS put Israeli babies in ovens. I start my asking him if he was familiar with the 40-beheaded babies lie and how that turned out. He stops for a moment, ponders it, and throughout the conversation continually returns to babies found in ovens, grenades found in toys, grenades under beds. I ask him his source and he writes down an Israel IDF commentator he follows on youtube....

He did question the official narrative of 20,000 Palestinians dead - asking where the bodies were. I did think that was an interesting point.

I also go into how the Muslim world hates the US for its support of Israel and how Israeli citizens spit on Christians that visit holy sites within Israel. His response, and I quote, "I would rather be spit on than beheaded" - implying that Jews spitting on Christians isn't that big of a deal. He also goes on to defend Israel and says Muslims hate Americans because of their holy book and that it has nothing to do with Israel. He then asks if I'm a Christian and if I believe the Bible (setting me up to quote Bible passages on the support of Israel). I cut him off and state that I'm not certain that the Jews of the Bible are the same Jews of Israel and that the Jews of Israel hate Christ (how could God support a people that spit on him? and hate him?). I wade into the Talmud and ask him if he is aware of what it says about Christ and how they claim Jesus is boiling in excrement.

Overall, the guy keeps going back to his Israeli news channel and Glenn Beck arguing for the defense of Israel. It is really a matrix-style moment in trying to present these people with an alternative point of view.