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Basement freezer was left open for a day, is my mom's meat ok?

submitted by aldecal to whatever 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:01:14 ago (+15/-0)     (whatever)

I don't believe in that bull shit about it spoiling after 2 hours and I'm typically of the opinion that if it smells alright (which it does) and it looks alright (it does) then it's fine. My mom is the type to worry and she wants to throw away hundreds of dollars of meat just because it thawed out for a day. I know our ancestors didn't have fridges, I doubt every unpreserved piece of meat was killed within a day of being butchered, and people these days tend to be pussies who let the 1% of bad cases over rule the 99% of the time things are fine. Am I being stupid in this case


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[ - ] Stonkmar 12 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:16:11 ago (+12/-0)

Her beef curtains are still good. Buhdum tiss.

[ - ] aldecal [op] 9 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:31:39 ago (+9/-0)

I knew it would come to this.

[ - ] bobdole9 6 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:47:50 ago (+6/-0)

How is the meat packaged? Are we talking the foam trays with shrink wrap or something bigger that comes in its own thick plastic?

Also, how cold is the basement?

If you do eat it, would just ensure whatever you're preparing gets past the magic 165F...maybe more 175 to verify any funk is gone.

[ - ] Inward 5 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 16:06:01 ago (+5/-0)

It's not the living bacteria that is always the problem. The toxins they poop isn't going to cook away.

[ - ] Hobama 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 04:27:56 ago (+0/-0)

Doubtful there was enough toxin accumulation after a day

[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:51:15 ago (+2/-0)

125f heavily seasoned. You know ancestrously speaking.

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 14:41:03 ago (+1/-0)

Eh...skeptical with poultry.

[ - ] Gowithit 4 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 14:56:30 ago (+4/-0)

Its a joke. I had a neighbor when shtf had a standing freezer defrost. They cooked what they could as they went but couldnt keep up so after a few days he was making this pork butt and he cooking outside and we could see him rubbing everything under the sun on it.

I mean just dumping every thing he could on it when we asked he said it stunk really bad and it would kill the germs. And then followed up with "but look, It doesnt stink anymore! " and held it up all proudly.

haha poor guy. He'll survive the end of the world for sure.

[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 00:27:09 ago (+1/-0)

That’s literally the third world MO which is why the spoiled rotten glop is so spicy.
You would know because you are one

[ - ] aldecal [op] 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 15:15:08 ago (+1/-0)

It's a mix of both, but mostly the foam with shrink wrap. The basement is cool but not refrigerated, maybe 65 to 70 fahrenheit.

[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 04:30:49 ago (+1/-0)

Not poultry

But red meat could even be frozen again but it's going to ruin the texture

Pork if it is brined

[ - ] Gowithit 5 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:06:28 ago (+5/-0)

How defrosted did the meat get? Is it still cold?Are the ones on the bottom/back still frozen? Chest or standing?

You can cook it and then refreeze it after cooking. You can stave off a few months that way.

[ - ] aldecal [op] 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:32:53 ago (+1/-0)

Standing, totally thawed, all of it. Interesting suggestion, thanks!

[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 14:48:53 ago (+1/-0)

How cold was the food to the touch?

[ - ] aldecal [op] 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 15:15:48 ago (+1/-0)

not at all

[ - ] bobdole9 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 19:43:19 ago (+3/-0)

Not cold at all...pitch it. Not worth chancing it.

[ - ] Spaceman84 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 23:16:14 ago (+3/-0)

How certain are you that the freezer was off for less than 24 hours? The frozen food is thermal mass so even after a day it should still be cold. If you’re telling me the shit reached room temperature in an insulated box the food is spoiled. You can cook it to high temp but it won’t be good.

[ - ] Inward 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 16:04:37 ago (+1/-0)

The rule "if it smells bad, it is" is great until it isn't. If you were a nigger I would tell you to wash it all in bleach. Realistically, I would toss it.

Was it vacuum sealed?

[ - ] Hobama 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 04:29:25 ago (+0/-0)

Not a good sign. Chuck it or feed the dogs

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 4 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 14:26:50 ago (+4/-0)

always keep a frozen gallon of water in freezer

[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 16:52:57 ago (+3/-0)*

How much meat are you talking about here exactly? Get a rough idea of what it would cost to replace most of it today, and then decide.

I would be 100% certain that you cleaned out all of the blood from fully thawed meat regardless.

[ - ] TomMacdonald 4 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 19:15:44 ago (+4/-0)

hundreds of dollars

So like 10lbs

[ - ] Gowithit 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 17:09:40 ago (+3/-0)

I was wondering the same thing. Are we talking 100's like I have 10 chickens and about 6 roasts with a brisket thrown in there or is it one of these ones that still have meat from 2019 in there.

[ - ] WillisJaxson 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 14:12:20 ago (+3/-0)

I don't really understand the never refreeze thawed meat opinion. I'd be surprised if anyone hasn't bought one of those big packs of chicken breasts that are often somewhat still frozen, take it home and put it in the fridge. Cook some the next day and freeze the rest that is now completely thawed out. If you do this with chicken, how is it a risk with other meat?
edit: i get that it's been in the fridge and not the counter, but are we talking thawed or room temp meat?

[ - ] SumerBreeze 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 15:09:32 ago (+2/-0)

It will just mess with the toughness of the meat - still would be great in stews or slow cooking or even deep fry styles.

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 3 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:17:44 ago (+3/-0)

If it thawed then it shouldn't be re-frozen.

But having said that our freezer got unplugged accidentally last year and we didn't notice for a couple days. Some of the meat thawed enough to drip -- which is how we noticed the freezer wasn't working -- but I just plugged it back in and re-froze everything. We've eaten everything from that freezer since then and no one got sick. But it's a chance.

If there's any discoloration or suspicious odor then toss that meat, of course. But if everything seems okay then, well, you know what I'd do.

[ - ] aldecal [op] 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:32:14 ago (+1/-0)

It all looked fine to me, that's good to hear. Thanks!

[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 18:39:23 ago (+2/-0)

Hold it up to the ceiling. If you get the magic chirp, it's bad

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 17:56:38 ago (+2/-0)

1. Your moms meat is BTFO for sure. Pastrami curtains to the floor.

2. The meat in her freezer is fine. Freeze that shit back up and it’s all good.

3. Get your moms curtains trimmed.

[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 18:44:11 ago (+2/-0)

Get your moms curtains trimmed

they have cosmetic surgery for these situations

[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 15:07:17 ago (+2/-0)

If it is a chest freezer, and it was full, the bottom stuff is probably fine.
Give the top layer of food to the chickens.

The big problem is going to be refreezing it.
A normal freezer can't flash freeze a whole fridge load of mass fast enough.
So anything that thawed out will need to freeze again and it will be slow enough that large ice crystals will form and make everything mushy when you eat it.

[ - ] Robhere 2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 13:59:20 ago (+2/-0)

If it is a frost free freezer it will routinely get above freezing to melt the frost, that is what causes freeze burn to food.
The look and smell test will work for me.

[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 20:48:08 ago (+1/-0)

this is a possible insurance claim - I've seen it done - if she has renter's/home insurance - look into it if it's super costly because she may have a claim depending on what she tells them

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 18:03:56 ago (+1/-0)

medium rare, lotta horseradish

[ - ] NukeAmerica 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 17:59:47 ago (+2/-1)

Yes OP her meat is still good. I checked it last night.

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 17:51:06 ago (+1/-0)*

If 90+ degrees, it might be questionable. Anything less for 24 hours it is fine. Refreeze.

Example: government standard for tunafish is something like three days. I will eat it ten days later.

I eat all food way past the suggested government date. So does my one friend.

Here are a simple few but critical rules. If it looks bad, toss it. No exceptions. If it smells bad, toss it, no exceptions. If it tastes bad, toss it, no exceptions. Otherwise, chow down!

E: I have never had food poisoning.

E2: Forgot one other, if it feels bad (slimy), toss it. No exceptions.

E3: I need to add this. You know your meat sits out in the heat for a long time before the butcher gets to it, right?

You meat is fine, pussy.

[ - ] carnold03 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 11:55:11 ago (+0/-0)

Just put some of the vegetables in the freezer above the fridge and close the door to the big one. The compressor might need to be serviced soon though.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 05:38:56 ago (+0/-0)

If it's ground beef then it's more risky than unground beef.

The bacteria would be on the surface and ground beef surface is all mixed in.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 00:24:47 ago (+0/-0)

Your mom’s roast beef never looked or smelled good

[ - ] Hobama 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 31, 2023 04:32:32 ago (+0/-0)

Did it taste good though?

[ - ] TheGreatWar 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 23:56:26 ago (+0/-0)

It's fine. Feed it to the dogs if you want. They eat literal turds anyway.

[ - ] rzr97 0 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 20:02:36 ago (+0/-0)

For some reason, cooking things at high temperature kills all bacteria.

[ - ] Anus_Expander -2 points 1.5 yearsOct 30, 2023 15:32:06 ago (+0/-2)

Your mom's meat is in my pants