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Who is the best male role model you can think of?

submitted by MaryXmas to Fatherhood 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 19:48:07 ago (+14/-0)     (Fatherhood)

I really can't think of many. Andrew Jackson? Hemingway?


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[ - ] Hoobeejoo 10 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:09:39 ago (+10/-0)

My dad. Viet Nam combat vet who hates the federal government. Taught me how to shoot, fish, and kill a man in numerous ways. A quiet, stoic badass.

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:35:59 ago (+1/-1)

mmm (no offense).

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:23:32 ago (+2/-0)

I am offended on his behalf.

[ - ] Master_Foo 8 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:36:58 ago (+8/-0)

Hadrian.

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 3 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:09:25 ago (+3/-0)

He came so close.

[ - ] Had 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:51:13 ago (+1/-0)

Yes.

[ - ] Gigglestick 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:08:18 ago (+0/-0)

Please tell me someone has that clip saved that I can watch.

[ - ] Master_Foo 3 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 03:38:43 ago (+3/-0)

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:22:43 ago (+0/-0)

You mean the animated one?

[ - ] GoatWarVet 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 22:03:15 ago (+0/-0)

The pederast, huh?

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 23:49:09 ago (+0/-0)

When you kill 500,000 jews and destroy Judea, then you can criticize.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 7 monthsSep 17, 2023 12:45:02 ago (+0/-0)

That claim has as much validity as the Greeks embracing pederasty.

Some men did follow through with it, those men were admonished then exiled for their actions.

[ - ] deleted 7 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 19:52:38 ago (+7/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:31:41 ago (+6/-2)

Why are people with massive egos good role models. They cause all the fucking problems.

[ - ] lord_nougat 5 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:37:49 ago (+5/-0)

Because we're awesome! Wait, I don't cause all the fucking problems... just some of them...

[ - ] paul_neri 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:34:37 ago (+2/-0)

7/10

[ - ] lord_nougat 5 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:37:06 ago (+5/-0)

Cool. That's a passing grade.

[ - ] GoatWarVet 1 point 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 22:05:49 ago (+1/-0)

Bah, that sort of humility doesn't suit you.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2023 02:03:02 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:05:13 ago (+1/-1)

Hitler had some good ideas amid a number of bad ones. And I don't think you'd want a guy who had lots of fun tweaking on amphetamines as a role model.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:11:00 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:21:48 ago (+1/-0)

Me too. Great for 24 hour shifts.

Horrible after effects, though.

[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:45:26 ago (+0/-0)

He took a lot of his ideas from niche

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 5 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:23:48 ago (+5/-0)

You mean Nietzsche?

[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 08:41:43 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah, that guy.

[ - ] lord_nougat 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:40:38 ago (+4/-0)

That's a pretty niche idea.

[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:27:16 ago (+0/-0)

... Nietsche?

[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:08:46 ago (+1/-1)

Someone needs a safety camp!!

[ - ] Fascinus 2 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 00:04:18 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 6 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:23:15 ago (+6/-0)

In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed Communists."

This guy seems good.

[ - ] Portmanure 5 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:42:34 ago (+5/-0)

Ward Cleaver

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:36:51 ago (+1/-0)

"Golly, Beav!"...

[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:52:17 ago (+0/-0)

Never heard of him.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:50:02 ago (+4/-0)

My grandfathers.

[ - ] bobdole9 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:43:55 ago (+4/-0)

I know it's fiction...

Hank Hill.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:26:41 ago (+2/-0)

HH brother.

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:39:52 ago (+3/-1)

14 words about propane and propane accessories.

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:13:55 ago (+1/-0)

Mmmhmm.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:10:09 ago (+0/-0)

I like this answer.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:13:57 ago (+4/-0)

Charles Ingalls

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:51:22 ago (+1/-0)*

The real one maybe. Michael Landon was a creep.

[ - ] lord_nougat 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:02:40 ago (+5/-1)

Hitler.

[ - ] Merlynn 1 point 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 04:57:04 ago (+1/-0)

No matter which man you choose as a "role model",you will quickly find all of them had problems and shortcomings. And that is the first lesson you should take away. All men are flawed. We all have our problems. None of us are perfect. So while you can't have a perfect role model,you should still pay attention to what those who went before got right and learn from their victories and their mistakes.

But if you want to be a good father,think of all the things your father taught you and pass them on to your son. And then think of all the things you'd wished you'd known as a kid and pass that knowledge on to him as well. That should be a good start.

[ - ] parrygrin 3 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:53:07 ago (+3/-0)

Mike Rowe.

[ - ] paul_neri 3 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:33:51 ago (+3/-0)

George Patton.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:25:40 ago (+0/-0)

He should have been president.

[ - ] Peleg 2 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 09:28:02 ago (+2/-0)

Richard Russell

SKY KING!

[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 00:12:34 ago (+2/-0)

Henry Cavill seems like a stand up dude, and obviously uncle mel

[ - ] parrygrin 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:54:54 ago (+2/-0)

Bruce Lee.

[ - ] parrygrin 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:52:58 ago (+2/-0)

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

[ - ] HeyJames 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:21:58 ago (+2/-0)

For me it is my father, he is a good man

[ - ] Jewpacabra 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:12:01 ago (+2/-0)

Uncle Ted

[ - ] Trope 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:39:04 ago (+2/-0)

Steve from Blue’s Clues.

He owned a house, raised a smart dog, and teleported into portraits in his spare time. Despite affording all of this, he still went back to college to further his career which I assume took place off camera.

[ - ] yesiknow 4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:46:36 ago (+4/-0)

I;d teleport back in time and kill Steve from Blue's Clues if I could.

[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:33:53 ago (+2/-0)

Andy Griffith

[ - ] Panic 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 09:39:24 ago (+0/-0)

He was a lefty. But I loved the show.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:39:07 ago (+2/-0)

Everyone has faults. I'd like to say my dad, my grandfather, my uncles or that really good cousin I have but I can't. They're all human and make mistakes the same as all of us.

We can only be the best that we can be and often that just isn't enough.

[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:37:43 ago (+0/-1)

You made my comment, arsehole! We all are flawed it's just some are less flawed than the rest of us.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:09:37 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:23:19 ago (+1/-0)

Julius Evola.

[ - ] Stonkmar 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:42:46 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] oyveyo 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:15:07 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:27:56 ago (+0/-0)

It don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!

[ - ] 2Drunk 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 11:04:04 ago (+1/-1)

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:15:53 ago (+0/-0)

No he was a terrible whore. He looked cute but so do a lot of whores.

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:08:15 ago (+0/-0)

I don't know one, I'll stick to myself

[ - ] parrygrin 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:58:24 ago (+0/-0)

Francis Marion.

[ - ] parrygrin 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:54:45 ago (+0/-0)

Alvin York.

[ - ] parrygrin 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:53:20 ago (+0/-0)

Jack Churchill.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:41:04 ago (+1/-1)

me

[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:39:36 ago (+2/-1)

I agree.

[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 04:28:02 ago (+1/-0)

Thank you Paul

I just might write a song about you

[ - ] PhantomXLII 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:40:04 ago (+0/-0)

Kurt Knispel, Erich Hartmann, Michael Wittmann, etc.

[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:47:22 ago (+0/-0)

What did these people do? Famous works?

[ - ] PhantomXLII 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:45:41 ago (+1/-0)

They killed communists and seemed pretty chill.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:42:46 ago (+0/-0)

They did the hokey pokie and some posit that they also turned themselves around.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:30:03 ago (+3/-3)

Hemingway?! Are you serious? You think he was a good dad? He was a lunatic and a drunk and a massive slut.

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 5 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:40:55 ago (+5/-0)

Curb the feminism a bit there House Female.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:38:01 ago (+1/-2)

Curb the delusions. He was a shit father.

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:11:15 ago (+2/-0)

Furniture should be seen, not heard.

[ - ] lord_nougat 4 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:29:20 ago (+4/-0)

Unless you consider really nice speakers to be furniture.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:47:55 ago (+1/-2)

Who are you kidding? you have no furniture. If I was your furniture Id kill myself.

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:53:42 ago (+1/-0)

No. If you were my furniture I'd have been doing the killing.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:00:33 ago (+1/-3)

Youve never killed anything you pathetic loser. You couldnt even put together an ikea chair, freak. Why would I be silent for you? Who are you? Nobody. You sure as hell arent in the position to tell Helena anything.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 05:41:50 ago (+0/-0)

You are the strangest combination of a little kid screaming over spilt ice cream and an old woman in a nursing home screeching at the staff over her tea being cold .

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:21:20 ago (+0/-0)

Ha, says the literal narcissist.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:52:10 ago (+0/-0)

You literally went on a "don't you know who I am???" rant yesterday. Zero self awareness.

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 06:49:11 ago (+0/-0)

Shit.

You certainly need a slap upside your silly little head, don't you?

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 11:28:23 ago (+0/-1)

Who’s going to give it to me? A tough talking keyboard warrior such as yourself? Don’t make me laugh.

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 11:51:20 ago (+0/-0)

Females are not intelligent enough to understand irony.

lol

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:30:11 ago (+0/-0)

I understand it well enough to know it didn’t happen in any of your preceding comments! Please explain irony and how you used it in this exchange? Oh you can’t. Just because Im an atypical female that can crush you in math and science doesn’t mean I cant crush you in the verbal as well you, HamsaOfDim

[ - ] HamsaOfDeath 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:30:30 ago (+0/-0)

lol

[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:48:29 ago (+1/-0)

He was a womanizer. He also had a lot of lead exposure from the shooting so he had some pieces missing.
Was he a bad father? I don't really know.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:44:07 ago (+2/-4)*

He wasnt a father at all. He lived a degenerate lifestyle hopping from one bed to the next. He spent bis entire life pleasure seeking and rubbing elbows with celebrities and intellectual kikes. I doubt he even knew his kids names let alone their birthdays. Give me one smidgen of evidence that he was a better dad than Nick Cannon!

He also had a lot of lead exposure from the shooting so he had some pieces missing.

Cope! Stop simping for a degenrate whore. He was a good writer not a good person.

You faggots will hump the leg of literally anyone with a whiff of misogyny to them like they are the second coming. Get a life.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:47:32 ago (+1/-0)

But aside from those things he was pretty a pretty cool dude who didn't afraid.

[ - ] Steelerfish 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:17:52 ago (+1/-1)

Quagmire

[ - ] Sleazy 3 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:40:41 ago (+3/-0)

hes a fucking kike

[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:45:43 ago (+3/-0)

"Giggity" sounds yiddish.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 21:42:32 ago (+0/-1)

Ted Bundy

[ - ] xmasskull -2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:20:25 ago (+1/-3)

Keith Richards.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 00:47:49 ago (+3/-0)*

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[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 16:16:38 ago (+1/-0)

Great advice.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:48:04 ago (+1/-1)

Keith Richards was a drug addled soulless devil worshipper.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:01:54 ago (+0/-1)

But Hemingway wasnt?

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 20:33:26 ago (+0/-0)

Hemingway could have worn his shoes on his head for all the relevncy of him to "Keith Richards is scum".

Don't smoke dope gets "people in Mesopotamia smoked it a thousand years ago so that's OK".

Gays shouldn't put their private business in public gets "Oscar Wilde was arrested, so gays have to put their private stuff in public"

A woman in history invented something, but all women didn't and are oppressed.

There's a method to advertising style thinking that is seen most in liberals tit for tat, isolated examples and revenge. It's collectivity that causes a self induced confusion like insanity. It's the basis of "perpetual struggle" and why communists are miserable. Feminism is that perpetual struggle, all for all or nothing that devours lives.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 08:08:49 ago (+0/-0)

Hemingway could have worn his shoes on his head for all the relevncy of him to "Keith Richards is scum".

What does this mean? Hemingway and KR were both talented artists with completely degenrate behavior.

Don't smoke dope gets "people in Mesopotamia smoked it a thousand years ago so that's OK".

Huh?

Gays shouldn't put their private business in public gets "Oscar Wilde was arrested, so gays have to put their private stuff in public"

I have no clue what point you are trying to make.

I made one which is that Hemingway is a terrible role model in the same way KR is. You can admire their art but you should never emulate their life example.

There's a method to advertising style thinking that is seen most in liberals tit for tat, isolated examples and revenge. It's collectivity that causes a self induced confusion like insanity. It's the basis of "perpetual struggle" and why communists are miserable. Feminism is that perpetual struggle, all for all or nothing that devours lives.

So youre saying that because I pointed out that Hemingway is a degenrate in the same way KR is, Im promoting an evil tit for tat revenge that is actually feminism? I really can’t tell. I hope Im misreading you. Because god damn that’s dumb.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 9 monthsJul 29, 2023 21:48:48 ago (+0/-0)

It's that collective "one is the other" non thinking taht makes women hate feminists and you're doing it.

Kieth Richards has zero connection or relevancy to Hemingway. They are two completely different people who got that way by their own roads. They weren't "one thing" jewish cult members who's behaviour can be predicted because they actually have no individuality. They weren't feminists who shaped their beliefs according to a constant litany of cliches pumped into their heads. They were individuals.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsJul 30, 2023 15:15:22 ago (+0/-0)

Kieth Richards and Hemingway are comparable. They were both entrtainers and celebrities. And like many other entertainers/celebeities, their morals are loose and they were both hedonists.

Of course they were individuals. Every person is an individual. Does that mean we can never compare two individuals?

Why would any of this be “feminist”? Im honestly baffled.

They are two completely different people who got that way by their own roads. They weren't "one thing" jewish cult members who's behaviour can be predicted because they actually have no individuality. They weren't feminists who shaped their beliefs according to a constant litany of cliches pumped into their heads

So in your mind, there are individuals —regular people like Hemingway and Kieth Richards, who think for themselves. And then there are cult members like the jews or feminists, and they have no free will and they unfairly categorize people like Hemingway and KR, who should never be compared. Am I getting this right?

I guess Im starting to see how you analyze things. I just don’t think you’re getting things right. Ive been accused of being a feminist (around here, never irl!) but never for comparing two people on a subject that has nothing to do with feminism.

I think ideology/religion is how groups coordinate their behavior. Everyone does it to some degree and in order to have societal cooperation some individualality (selfishness) must be sacrificed. People tend to be attracted to ideologies that benefit them personally, regardless of whether they make sense for the rest of society. Hemingway and KR both had/have ideologies which influenced them and appealed to their licentiousness. If everybody ran around acting like Hemingway the world would be in an aweful mess. I suppose its easy to mistake Hemingway for a completely independent thinker but he was a nihilist influenced by other nihilists. Lots of nihilist NPCs parroting nihilist ideology and ruining countries. Its a terrible philosophy.

[ - ] xmasskull -4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:56:52 ago (+0/-4)

The fellow wrote songs/music and played the guitar like no other.

A true tune-smith & an inspiration for an entire generation & then some.

It's truly to bad a skumbagg Minnelli like you has zero clue as to what music is,NOT what the niggers rap about.

Feel free to retort,you won't because you know I'm RIGHT!

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -4 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 20:53:03 ago (+0/-4)

Probably Charles Manson.

High status types that led a war for their establishment are both beyond the reach of average men and send the wrong message.

Diogenes or the Marquis de Sade are others. Even the Prophet Muhammad.

As you may notice I'm not looking to conventional cookie cutter types.

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:50:10 ago (+2/-0)

Oh because supporting bad makes you so original and sophisticated and it's so complex and sophisticated to just go 180 degrees opposite of good. Thar's why you're fundamentally stupid, like liberals are fundamentally stupid thinking kikes are smart.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 01:16:56 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 22:59:59 ago (+0/-1)

No.

It's about supporting rebels, people who thought outside the box, people that in some way challenged big bad hierarchies - the institutions that do most of the real bad in the world. You think Sade was bad? He wrote books. Government did the bad. They locked him up for writing them.

One thing to be learned from Marxists and Marxist regimes is how they put history to service of ideology. In picking the men I did it is with a view to addressing current problems, not looking to an idealized past that probably didn't even really exist.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2023 23:33:27 ago (+0/-0)

MK ultra fan

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 20:44:45 ago (+0/-0)

Fuck off you imbecile. Just because someone challenges bad people doesn't make them good. With Marxists its just a bunch of religious fundamentalist megalomaniacs who suck in the dumbest as useful idiots. As if nobody can guess the globalist corporations and governments are using marxist theology together as a two headed dog of war.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 9 monthsJul 28, 2023 22:24:19 ago (+0/-0)

You have nothing interesting to say. But then this is your usual. Just commies bad, insult, Jews bad, insult, you're a Jew. They need smarter bots.