It's worth mentioning that the Talmud is a commentary on the Torah. There is no Talmudic Jew who understands those books as being distinct from Torah; that goes for all other products of Rabbinical Judaism. It's all supposed to be commentary and explication of Torah.
Christianity makes a very big deal about the deposit of faith having been a kind of seminal thing, with the offices of public revelation being closed (many would say after the death of the apostle John ca. 100 A.D.).
Orthodox Judaism doesn't treat that office as closed. You have the addition of many new 'canonical' books through the centuries, including sefer Yetzirah and sefer Zohar, and other Kabbalistic works. Is Christianity older in one sense than Lurianic Kabbalism? Absolutely. Is Christianity older than Baal worship? No.
I mean Kabbalism is a hodgepodge of Hellenistic philosophy (esp. Pythagoras), eastern ideas, and a bunch of other things, and it still understands itself as demonstrating only what is esoteric in Torah.
This is the funny thing about religions sometimes, is they get to determine categories like 'old' and 'new'. When people want to fight over religion, many times you'll hear arguments to the effect of "this is old" and "that is new". If you're going to accept a bunch of Aristotelian philosophy into your religion, a millennium after Aristotle lived, then you need to find a way to make that addition old. "Oral" traditions were really helpful with this. By claiming oral tradition, you can throw just about everything you want backward in time, and then tell the people you stole it from that they actually got it from you!
"Mine goes back to Jesus!"
"Oh yeah? Well mine goes back to Moses!"
"OHHH YEAHHH? Well mine goes back to Adam!"
"OHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH? Well mine goes back to Adam Kadmon! Times infinity. Squared. And you can't talk now because you're frozen until the designated unfreezer unfreezes you. Get rekt, shitface."
I find it interesting how they still use the Christian calendar but the fucking jews try to replace AD with CE for common era. Trying to erase the Latin context. Fuck off kikes
The Romans sacked jewish temples in judea before the first christian temples or the bible was ever produced, stop being a dumb fag.
Second temple judiasm was active 500BCE, christinaity wasnt even created until around 100AD.
The only thing you proved is that original kikery continued to update even after the subterfuge loan derivative religion judaism-lite for gentiles/christcukery was established.
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Christianity makes a very big deal about the deposit of faith having been a kind of seminal thing, with the offices of public revelation being closed (many would say after the death of the apostle John ca. 100 A.D.).
Orthodox Judaism doesn't treat that office as closed. You have the addition of many new 'canonical' books through the centuries, including sefer Yetzirah and sefer Zohar, and other Kabbalistic works. Is Christianity older in one sense than Lurianic Kabbalism? Absolutely. Is Christianity older than Baal worship? No.
I mean Kabbalism is a hodgepodge of Hellenistic philosophy (esp. Pythagoras), eastern ideas, and a bunch of other things, and it still understands itself as demonstrating only what is esoteric in Torah.
This is the funny thing about religions sometimes, is they get to determine categories like 'old' and 'new'. When people want to fight over religion, many times you'll hear arguments to the effect of "this is old" and "that is new". If you're going to accept a bunch of Aristotelian philosophy into your religion, a millennium after Aristotle lived, then you need to find a way to make that addition old. "Oral" traditions were really helpful with this. By claiming oral tradition, you can throw just about everything you want backward in time, and then tell the people you stole it from that they actually got it from you!
"Mine goes back to Jesus!"
"Oh yeah? Well mine goes back to Moses!"
"OHHH YEAHHH? Well mine goes back to Adam!"
"OHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH? Well mine goes back to Adam Kadmon! Times infinity. Squared. And you can't talk now because you're frozen until the designated unfreezer unfreezes you. Get rekt, shitface."
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Second temple judiasm was active 500BCE, christinaity wasnt even created until around 100AD.
The only thing you proved is that original kikery continued to update even after the subterfuge loan derivative religion judaism-lite for gentiles/christcukery was established.
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Ashkenazi is only a rabbinical term for jews that moved to Germany and mixed with whites in the medieval ages.
Everyone in the bible is a heeb/jew/yid/kike/hebrew/Semite, stop trying to cut the mustard.
Do you know what is PROVEN? Judaism predates Christendom because Christianity uses jewish texts as a foundational piece for its own mythology.