I can't understand any of the things that he's saying because someone makes the music way too loud. You know if you're editing something like this and you get so excited about what you think is your content that you forget that other people actually have to hear it to get excited too and you just drum it up with a bunch of music to keep your heartbeat going up then it's not very effective.
There are too many question marks with Tate. As a general rule, I think we have to make an assessment whenever we find someone extremely charismatic making big public displays out of saying things that blatantly appeal to a particular 'half' of the current political divide. A brief recall of the 2016-2017 period, combined with realizing where most of those high-profile conservatives are today, should teach us the lesson that these phenomena tend not to transpire according to the stories our brains often supply for them.
I can acknowledge Tate is saying a lot of the things conservatives want to hear, but it is reminiscent (albeit targeting a totally different segment of conservatives) of Jordan Peterson's rhetoric. You say just enough without ever 'going there'. Not only that, but you promote a ruggedly (suicidally) individualist mindset, while either explicitly or implicitly deterring people from taking collective action. Seen this way, the man-o-sphere 'Tate mindset' has a certain continuity with the 'Peterson mindset', although they are both likely to critique each other at the surface level.
Some things that make Tate a question mark for me (besides his flamboyant dancing):
- His father's involvement in the intelligence community (this has been a very common feature of the various 'stars' who have arisen in western culture since the 50s).
- The extremely shady means he used for making his fortune initially (despite then going on to preach morals to everyone). Unless you are ignorant, you don't think that people 'just get into' the prostitution business. It isn't the postal service. You don't just waltz into the vice businesses without approval. They are owned and compartmentalized; you require an 'in'. If he had been independent, the second he started to encroach on more well-connected people's revenues, he would have been paid a visit and either bought out or brought within the fold.
- His overall model for the male life basically involves teaching men to become isolated wealth-seekers. Watch for men who get this kind of platform and don't promote any collective changes, other than to tell other men to do the same thing: pursue wealth and material things to be 'the best'. This has always been a ploy by the powers that be to prevent cooperative social efforts by their enemies. Think of it this way: if you accept that Tate's mindset is actually to become an independently rich lone-wolf free from the Matrix, then it doesn't make any sense to sell your secrets for success (if you are successful at this). This is the way to defuse pretty much all of the 'get wealthy' ad systems you see on YouTube. If someone has a way of being successful at something, they do more of that thing; they don't stop doing that thing for even a minute to devote time to teaching (broadcasting!) total strangers how to do that thing. Why? Because that would cannibalize their own ability to do that thing. So whenever someone comes to you with the 'secret', be wary. You don't sell secrets that stop working the moment they cease to be secrets; else, there is no secret, and you're making money by telling people a secret exists.
- I'm also highly skeptical of the absolute dominance of the gender battle on the internet. We saw this kind of man-o-sphere thing spike in popularity in the first decade of the 2000s with the pick-up community. It was a charade then, and it is now. But this total focus on he-said, she-said that's taking place online today ("no, you wahman bad, we men not bad") is, at best, a highly attractive distraction for small human brains. The world is being manipulated, and a lot of people are having their attention focused on the fucking dating scene by these shenanigans.
- If the powers that be want someone cancelled, they get cancelled. The story we are being fed in Tate's case is that, as a super-genius 5D chess-player, he established such a large online following that he couldn't be cancelled. A similar effect was noted with Peterson. But, the fact is, if you become an actual persona non grata, you don't magically become the starlet of the entire podcast and news media circuit. Whenever they portray certain people as 'warriors' who are fighting the woke establishment's persecution, while managing to get spotted on every possible platform that exists, I am highly skeptical.
So, I have the concern that Tate is just 'bread and circuses'.
I'm pretty sure there are some Jews in his paternal line, because Tate is exactly what you would expect from combining a Jew with a nigger. He is still evolving though. Even though he might not have a social concept for the greater good now, he might find one in the future and change his message accordingly. Part of that already happened with his conversion to Islam.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:15:03 ago (+1/-0)
Ah, yes. I forgot about that part. Making the Islamic system appear like a welcomed alternative to the current west's downhill slide! Your men are weak and have no foreseeable basis for establishing strength under any existing category (male, white, Christian). You'll welcome Islam as the divide between western men and women grows! Damn, I can't believe I forgot about this aspect of things.
Well, Christianity has failed us and people are taking up environmentalism as a replacement religion. Even though I don't like Islam, it seems to be immune to the social problems the west is experiencing.
At the same time, it's being weaponized. A system as clear-cut and rigorous as Islam is a safehaven for anti-intellectualism (don't mistake this as me saying Islam does not have an intellectual history; it does, an extremely strong one). It's that answers like Islam's make stalwart followers of the world's dumbest people; take the African Muslim population for example. The primitive mind responds powerfully to violence. This population is being mobilized against the west. I do not think the answer is to 'when in Rome' this one. In the end, it won't be a safe bet, even if it appears safer to start with. You can die a free man, or die a slithering coward.
Downvoated. I made it over half way through, couldn't hear what he was saying those few times he spoke, and did not see a shred of actual factual evidence that Tate was jewish. Is there any or do I have to watch the whole fucking thing to get a nugget of factual gold in the end?
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 8 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 07:02:06 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon 5 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 07:49:19 ago (+5/-0)
There is only so much faggotry I can watch.
(I shut it off early.)
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 15:52:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Hermes
[ - ] Hermes 2 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 11:28:08 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 10:52:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 7 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 06:53:00 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 4 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 11:25:48 ago (+4/-0)*
I can acknowledge Tate is saying a lot of the things conservatives want to hear, but it is reminiscent (albeit targeting a totally different segment of conservatives) of Jordan Peterson's rhetoric. You say just enough without ever 'going there'. Not only that, but you promote a ruggedly (suicidally) individualist mindset, while either explicitly or implicitly deterring people from taking collective action. Seen this way, the man-o-sphere 'Tate mindset' has a certain continuity with the 'Peterson mindset', although they are both likely to critique each other at the surface level.
Some things that make Tate a question mark for me (besides his flamboyant dancing):
- His father's involvement in the intelligence community (this has been a very common feature of the various 'stars' who have arisen in western culture since the 50s).
- The extremely shady means he used for making his fortune initially (despite then going on to preach morals to everyone). Unless you are ignorant, you don't think that people 'just get into' the prostitution business. It isn't the postal service. You don't just waltz into the vice businesses without approval. They are owned and compartmentalized; you require an 'in'. If he had been independent, the second he started to encroach on more well-connected people's revenues, he would have been paid a visit and either bought out or brought within the fold.
- His overall model for the male life basically involves teaching men to become isolated wealth-seekers. Watch for men who get this kind of platform and don't promote any collective changes, other than to tell other men to do the same thing: pursue wealth and material things to be 'the best'. This has always been a ploy by the powers that be to prevent cooperative social efforts by their enemies. Think of it this way: if you accept that Tate's mindset is actually to become an independently rich lone-wolf free from the Matrix, then it doesn't make any sense to sell your secrets for success (if you are successful at this). This is the way to defuse pretty much all of the 'get wealthy' ad systems you see on YouTube. If someone has a way of being successful at something, they do more of that thing; they don't stop doing that thing for even a minute to devote time to teaching (broadcasting!) total strangers how to do that thing. Why? Because that would cannibalize their own ability to do that thing. So whenever someone comes to you with the 'secret', be wary. You don't sell secrets that stop working the moment they cease to be secrets; else, there is no secret, and you're making money by telling people a secret exists.
- I'm also highly skeptical of the absolute dominance of the gender battle on the internet. We saw this kind of man-o-sphere thing spike in popularity in the first decade of the 2000s with the pick-up community. It was a charade then, and it is now. But this total focus on he-said, she-said that's taking place online today ("no, you wahman bad, we men not bad") is, at best, a highly attractive distraction for small human brains. The world is being manipulated, and a lot of people are having their attention focused on the fucking dating scene by these shenanigans.
- If the powers that be want someone cancelled, they get cancelled. The story we are being fed in Tate's case is that, as a super-genius 5D chess-player, he established such a large online following that he couldn't be cancelled. A similar effect was noted with Peterson. But, the fact is, if you become an actual persona non grata, you don't magically become the starlet of the entire podcast and news media circuit. Whenever they portray certain people as 'warriors' who are fighting the woke establishment's persecution, while managing to get spotted on every possible platform that exists, I am highly skeptical.
So, I have the concern that Tate is just 'bread and circuses'.
[ + ] herbert_west
[ - ] herbert_west 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:11:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:15:03 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] herbert_west
[ - ] herbert_west 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:20:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 13:37:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:58:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] zongongo
[ - ] zongongo 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:38:36 ago (+0/-0)
Maybe you think too much about Andrew Taint.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 13:32:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] cb1
[ - ] cb1 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 18:05:34 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 13:54:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica [op] 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 15:31:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NuckFiggers
[ - ] NuckFiggers 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 13:42:30 ago (+0/-0)
At best, Andrew Tate is a pimp. That's been clear from the beginning. Who the fuck follows this guy?
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 0 points 1.9 yearsJul 8, 2023 12:44:36 ago (+0/-0)
I got a little over 30 seconds in before I noped out.
You're on your own with this one.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 11:58:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2.0 yearsJul 8, 2023 09:09:11 ago (+0/-0)