Scientists estimated a standard period or “tick” of a quasar and then observed quasars up to 12 billion light years away at an earlier era of the universe to calculate that time progressed at 1/5 the rate it does now, due to time dilation.
Detection of the cosmological time dilation of high-redshift quasars, Nature Astronomy (2023) www.nature.com/articles/s41550-023-02029-2
They neglected to mention or take into account the Webb scope casting doubt on the expansion of the universe to begin with. These people have no idea what they're talking about.
See the Virgo Cluster for images of galaxies extending as far as the eye can see, some appear to exist in a swarm around the sub cluster at the core, others are in streamers and wisps of galaxies extending outward until their images are no more than pin points.
In the 1950's when the spectra of deep field galaxies obtained by Edwin Hubble with the 100 inch telescope at California's Mount Wilson Observatory was subjected to scrutiny, it was found the absorption lines of all the common elements were shifted toward the red end of the spectrum. This is called "Redshift," the furthest ones away attested to by their small image width on the photographic plates, all had greater RS than their closer counterparts whose images subtended a greater angle.
https://i.postimg.cc/hvhFxwgk/Edge-Galaxy.jpg
When space based and adaptive optic instruments extended the visual limit further, vastly more distant edge on spiral galaxies recognized as a central bulge with two pointy bits extending about twice as far on the same axis, emerged in the same advanced stages of evolution as the Milky Way or Home Galaxy. Here RS is approaching twelve which puts the rate of recession well into the superluminal category which means faster than the speed of light, yet they are goin’ about their business the same as around here.
https://i.postimg.cc/yYjhkM9v/BL-Lac-2.jpg
Expand the image for faint blobs of light which are galaxies ever further away in every direction and see them as neurons in the brain of God, which is meant in no evangelical sense it just seems the best way to describe it. A BL Lacertae object that has no redshift and remains a pinpoint of light on even the deepest fields, is thought to be a tunnel shot of the energy beam from the active nucleus of a quasar.
https://i.postimg.cc/vBD8t6S4/M-31-Cent-A.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vZHmZjL7/abell1689-hst.jpg
That M31 the relatively nearby Andromeda Galaxy has blue shift is because it is gravitationally bound with the other galaxies in the local group, and is actually moving in closer with the Milky Way. Both galaxies will expand to become elliptical galaxies, and with nearby in the other direction NGC 5128 called Centaurus A which is presently undergoing that process, form a sub cluster typically seen at the heart of larger galaxy clusters.
Those who cackle on about the age of the universe expressed as a percentage of its present age, say Redshift indicates the universe is expanding after the explosion of a primal atom, that accordingly could only have been located right where good ol’ Earth is today, the Big Bang hypothesis. Thus viewing a distant galaxy with a redshift of eight, whereas between here and there is another galaxy with a RS of four indicating it was speeding toward the more distant place, while from the more distant galaxy our galaxy the Milky Way would similarly have a RS of eight.
https://i.postimg.cc/tCtdWgvH/Mt-Palomar.jpg
So too would the intervening galaxy viewed from the far galaxy have a RS of four indicating it was speeding toward us at a pretty good clip, it can not be speeding in both directions at once can it now.
https://i.postimg.cc/NLqKkCGD/Mule-Skinner.jpg
When confronted with that the Big Bangers start on about balloons and expanding space .. forget about balloons, Hubble was a dictator and the only person other than him who was allowed to look thru the prime focus of the two hundred inch telescope on Mt Palomar in Southern California, was a mule skinner named Milton Humason.
https://i.postimg.cc/FzD97Pd1/Hubble-and-Milt.jpg
Hubble and Milt cooked up the Expanding Universe theory between the two of them which is just so much hot air .. assume most spiral galaxies that look the same are roughly the same size, as distance reduces the linear dimension constantly so does redshift increase in proportion, thus a spiral galaxy that subtends an angle of one degree will be twice as distant as another two degrees wide.
Similarly a galaxy half of one degree wide will be twice as far as the first and four times further than the other .. blue shift is observable in the discs of rotating galaxies, thus the light from a distant galaxy will exhibit mean redshift in proportion to its linear distance. Expanding the image further, as rotation brings parts toward us they will be slightly blue shifted back toward the norm, similarly as rotation takes objects away their light will be shifted so slightly even further toward the red part of the spectrum.
https://i.postimg.cc/Qdfc8ww1/HST-SA.jpg
The Hubble Space Telescope went into orbit with an incorrectly ground primary mirror, B’s of D’s were invested in building, storing and testing the HST prior to launch and nobody had checked to see if the primary mirror was going to work, gimme a break. As well the Spherical Aberration that plagued the mission should have been fixable by moving the secondary mirror, the images attributed to HST that turn up from time to time are said to be taken by image stabilized, multi mirror, ground based telescopes.
That or someone finally got around to focusing the instrument by indeed adjusting the secondary mirror .. where did the money go, spammers will tell you about what a great asset and what a grand piece of hardware it is, it is not it is a piece of junk, who got the HST money as well and the trillion$ missing from the Pentagon revealed September 10, 2001?? The "Big Bangers" have about the same level of veracity as the "Flat Earthers" which is none.
"This illustration conceptualizes the swirling clouds identified by the James Webb Space Telescope." WebbTelescope.org.
As well it sounds like there's bs in the WST mix, like why would a multi billion dollar orbiting astronomical observatory need to rely on "conceptualized" images unless something is wrong .. which brings us to the paucity of WST images either appearing on their images website or in WST newsfeeds, it's mostly the same stuff that has been extant since week 1.
I actually took physics and learned to use the equations which prove the fundamental laws. If you understand the math, most of physics is self-evidently true. I don’t just gobble the cock of whatever science writer the new york times trots out.
Confirming this is in fact not science. Even Dingus has accepted the fact that science papers suffer from this systemic problem of not conforming to the basics of the scientific method.
Please feel free to continue shilling faux science so you can fap to the idea of space which you will never visit.
People like you are the reason the covid scam worked so well.
I scanned the article and, having no understanding of physics, I dismissed it because it gave entirely too much weight to Einsteinian "physics", which the Third Reich also dismissed as "jew physics".
"Thanks to Einstein, we know that time and space are intertwined and, since the dawn of time in the singularity of the Big Bang, the universe has been expanding," Professor Lewis said. "This expansion of space means that our observations of the early universe should appear to be much slower than time flows today.
(my emphasis)
I don't think that was ever proved, and I don't think anything about Einsteinian "physics" is falsifiable except the energy/matter conversion theory, and he stole that. Nothing in it can ever be proven true or false. Anything anyone can say about it is just tautological.
The more theoretical the physics, the less falsifiable it is. It impossible to conduct an experiment under a controlled environment, and anything derived from the observation is subject to interpretation by people using theoretical models. This isn't science, it's speculation.
I could reproduce the his experiment if I had a powerful telescope that could detect quasars at 12 billion lightyears. You calculate he average quasar period at various distances from earth and you do a linear fit. Since quasar periods are predictable you can calculate the rate of time at any distance.
Confirming this is in fact not science. Even Dingus has accepted the fact that science papers suffer from this systemic problem of not conforming to the basics of the scientific method.
Thats not what dangus is talking about. This is an experiment that is easily reproducible by other astronomers and the math should not be difficult to verify.
I didnt trust the “experts” of covid because there were hundreds of other scientists that were sharing their observations which conflicted with the CDC. I was right about the danger of the vax and the origin of covid because I was reviewing the actual science— I was reviewing studies and dismissing the one with shitty design of experiment or fishy numbers.
I know you werent a science major. I know you have low exposure to math and science. It is because of this lack of exposure that you dismiss all science as fake and gay. Science was developed by white people. Thats why your cell phone works and thats why your car works and your air conditioner. Science is not fake and gay, you dolt. You were lazy in school and thats why you can’t verify any of these things for yourself now.
When I say it's fake, I'm not exaggerating or repeating conspiracy. I'm stating an observable fact.
Have you observed with an open mind the bs claims of modern physics?
As for your retarded muh gravity claims... Bullshit no one knows what gravity is, we just have a mathematical model that does a fair representation of the OUTCOME of gravity and call it quits.
So this matters when the standard model states that the universe is shaped by gravity and when of course the universe looks NOTHING like their fake gravity math model prediction what do they do?
They fucking make up invisible undetectable non falsifiable fluffy pink unicorns adding mass we cannot refute called fucking dark matter.
Its fake. Period. Are you in a position to argue with me on this?
Its deliberately fake to deny us whites the stars.
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https://i.postimg.cc/0yGsYNtp/Virgo-Cluster.jpg
See the Virgo Cluster for images of galaxies extending as far as the eye can see, some appear to exist in a swarm around the sub cluster at the core, others are in streamers and wisps of galaxies extending outward until their images are no more than pin points.
https://i.postimg.cc/NjmLVT4S/Redshift-Mt-Wilson.jpg
In the 1950's when the spectra of deep field galaxies obtained by Edwin Hubble with the 100 inch telescope at California's Mount Wilson Observatory was subjected to scrutiny, it was found the absorption lines of all the common elements were shifted toward the red end of the spectrum. This is called "Redshift," the furthest ones away attested to by their small image width on the photographic plates, all had greater RS than their closer counterparts whose images subtended a greater angle.
https://i.postimg.cc/hvhFxwgk/Edge-Galaxy.jpg
When space based and adaptive optic instruments extended the visual limit further, vastly more distant edge on spiral galaxies recognized as a central bulge with two pointy bits extending about twice as far on the same axis, emerged in the same advanced stages of evolution as the Milky Way or Home Galaxy. Here RS is approaching twelve which puts the rate of recession well into the superluminal category which means faster than the speed of light, yet they are goin’ about their business the same as around here.
https://i.postimg.cc/yYjhkM9v/BL-Lac-2.jpg
Expand the image for faint blobs of light which are galaxies ever further away in every direction and see them as neurons in the brain of God, which is meant in no evangelical sense it just seems the best way to describe it. A BL Lacertae object that has no redshift and remains a pinpoint of light on even the deepest fields, is thought to be a tunnel shot of the energy beam from the active nucleus of a quasar.
https://i.postimg.cc/vBD8t6S4/M-31-Cent-A.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vZHmZjL7/abell1689-hst.jpg
That M31 the relatively nearby Andromeda Galaxy has blue shift is because it is gravitationally bound with the other galaxies in the local group, and is actually moving in closer with the Milky Way. Both galaxies will expand to become elliptical galaxies, and with nearby in the other direction NGC 5128 called Centaurus A which is presently undergoing that process, form a sub cluster typically seen at the heart of larger galaxy clusters.
Those who cackle on about the age of the universe expressed as a percentage of its present age, say Redshift indicates the universe is expanding after the explosion of a primal atom, that accordingly could only have been located right where good ol’ Earth is today, the Big Bang hypothesis. Thus viewing a distant galaxy with a redshift of eight, whereas between here and there is another galaxy with a RS of four indicating it was speeding toward the more distant place, while from the more distant galaxy our galaxy the Milky Way would similarly have a RS of eight.
https://i.postimg.cc/tCtdWgvH/Mt-Palomar.jpg
So too would the intervening galaxy viewed from the far galaxy have a RS of four indicating it was speeding toward us at a pretty good clip, it can not be speeding in both directions at once can it now.
https://i.postimg.cc/NLqKkCGD/Mule-Skinner.jpg
When confronted with that the Big Bangers start on about balloons and expanding space .. forget about balloons, Hubble was a dictator and the only person other than him who was allowed to look thru the prime focus of the two hundred inch telescope on Mt Palomar in Southern California, was a mule skinner named Milton Humason.
https://i.postimg.cc/FzD97Pd1/Hubble-and-Milt.jpg
Hubble and Milt cooked up the Expanding Universe theory between the two of them which is just so much hot air .. assume most spiral galaxies that look the same are roughly the same size, as distance reduces the linear dimension constantly so does redshift increase in proportion, thus a spiral galaxy that subtends an angle of one degree will be twice as distant as another two degrees wide.
Similarly a galaxy half of one degree wide will be twice as far as the first and four times further than the other .. blue shift is observable in the discs of rotating galaxies, thus the light from a distant galaxy will exhibit mean redshift in proportion to its linear distance. Expanding the image further, as rotation brings parts toward us they will be slightly blue shifted back toward the norm, similarly as rotation takes objects away their light will be shifted so slightly even further toward the red part of the spectrum.
https://i.postimg.cc/Qdfc8ww1/HST-SA.jpg
The Hubble Space Telescope went into orbit with an incorrectly ground primary mirror, B’s of D’s were invested in building, storing and testing the HST prior to launch and nobody had checked to see if the primary mirror was going to work, gimme a break. As well the Spherical Aberration that plagued the mission should have been fixable by moving the secondary mirror, the images attributed to HST that turn up from time to time are said to be taken by image stabilized, multi mirror, ground based telescopes.
That or someone finally got around to focusing the instrument by indeed adjusting the secondary mirror .. where did the money go, spammers will tell you about what a great asset and what a grand piece of hardware it is, it is not it is a piece of junk, who got the HST money as well and the trillion$ missing from the Pentagon revealed September 10, 2001?? The "Big Bangers" have about the same level of veracity as the "Flat Earthers" which is none.
"This illustration conceptualizes the swirling clouds identified by the James Webb Space Telescope." WebbTelescope.org.
As well it sounds like there's bs in the WST mix, like why would a multi billion dollar orbiting astronomical observatory need to rely on "conceptualized" images unless something is wrong .. which brings us to the paucity of WST images either appearing on their images website or in WST newsfeeds, it's mostly the same stuff that has been extant since week 1.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 11:29:44 ago (+4/-2)
Fake and gay
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[ + ] FacelessOne
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Oh wait you can't reproduce it.
Confirming this is in fact not science. Even Dingus has accepted the fact that science papers suffer from this systemic problem of not conforming to the basics of the scientific method.
Please feel free to continue shilling faux science so you can fap to the idea of space which you will never visit.
People like you are the reason the covid scam worked so well.
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
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I don't think that was ever proved, and I don't think anything about Einsteinian "physics" is falsifiable except the energy/matter conversion theory, and he stole that. Nothing in it can ever be proven true or false. Anything anyone can say about it is just tautological.
The more theoretical the physics, the less falsifiable it is. It impossible to conduct an experiment under a controlled environment, and anything derived from the observation is subject to interpretation by people using theoretical models. This isn't science, it's speculation.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 15:22:29 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 1 point 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 16:34:50 ago (+2/-1)
Thats not what dangus is talking about. This is an experiment that is easily reproducible by other astronomers and the math should not be difficult to verify.
I didnt trust the “experts” of covid because there were hundreds of other scientists that were sharing their observations which conflicted with the CDC. I was right about the danger of the vax and the origin of covid because I was reviewing the actual science— I was reviewing studies and dismissing the one with shitty design of experiment or fishy numbers.
I know you werent a science major. I know you have low exposure to math and science. It is because of this lack of exposure that you dismiss all science as fake and gay. Science was developed by white people. Thats why your cell phone works and thats why your car works and your air conditioner. Science is not fake and gay, you dolt. You were lazy in school and thats why you can’t verify any of these things for yourself now.
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 16:41:26 ago (+1/-0)
Stop sucking at the teet of appealing to authority. Then I remember you are female and have no other way of thinking besides appealing to the group.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 16:44:56 ago (+1/-1)
More likely, you are insecure that I know more about science, so you have to play the penis pass. Penis pass rejected.
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[ + ] Belfuro
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Physics is fraudulent because of the maths.
When white men rediscovered physics we used emperical models and had technology breakthroughs as a results.
100 years of maths based physics has given us nothing but denying us the stars.
Big bang is fake. Gravity is fake. Constants like speed of light and gravity are fake.
The entire standard model is fake.
I know this because the observable universe doesn't match their models
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 17:07:46 ago (+0/-0)
The standard model is inadequate but not broadly fake. You are confusing the flat-tards.
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[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 21:53:39 ago (+0/-0)
I'm stating an observable fact.
Have you observed with an open mind the bs claims of modern physics?
As for your retarded muh gravity claims... Bullshit no one knows what gravity is, we just have a mathematical model that does a fair representation of the OUTCOME of gravity and call it quits.
So this matters when the standard model states that the universe is shaped by gravity and when of course the universe looks NOTHING like their fake gravity math model prediction what do they do?
They fucking make up invisible undetectable non falsifiable fluffy pink unicorns adding mass we cannot refute called fucking dark matter.
Its fake. Period. Are you in a position to argue with me on this?
Its deliberately fake to deny us whites the stars.
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 10 monthsJul 4, 2023 15:12:12 ago (+1/-0)
Physics has been fake since you know who's subverted it in 1927.
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