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Foo Might Be Somewhat Right ... ugh

submitted by GrayDragon to AllPhilosophy 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 15:48:43 ago (+4/-0)     (AllPhilosophy)

@master_foo 's argument is that it is not good versus evil, but that it is order versus chaos (Michael Moorecock awesome shit-tier).

I grew up in my formative years as a strict lower-case libertarian. Things were kinds of orderly. But I guess I rebel (like that fag movie). Now chaos reigns supreme, I've notice I am now striving for order as a Fascist, perhaps Nazi.

I guess I am always rebelling, even against "rebelling."

Just some woeful thoughts. Your turn! Any insights?


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[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 5 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:03:52 ago (+5/-0)

A goat is rebellious by nature, but self preserving. It will rebel against being led, and yet will return to its barn at night without failure.

For those whose nature aligns with the goat, you will find them rebelling against the status quo, when the status quo has become self destruction, but will align with it when it is self preserving.

The current status quo is rebellion against survival, you are rebelling against that rebellion as it is suicidal, and are pursuing a status quo that is explicitly self preserving.

master_foo 's argument is that it is not good versus evil, but that it is order versus chaos
Define evil, and you'll see that what you are rebelling against this chaos because it is evil.

[ - ] Love240 6 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:47:49 ago (+6/-0)

Precisely.

Foo is a mason (fed/kike/same-thing at this point), he uses red herrings, straw men and all manner of narrative, whatever is useful to construct false dichotomies in order to sew 'doubt' and 'division', and to foster a semblance of 'agreement' in moral wrongs so that you can be unequally yoked with him and he can pull you into his swamp of bad intentions and malformed arguments.

He is a classic Marxist, versed in the long list of traditional deceptions of his (((people))). His goal is to undermine, usurp and subvert, to irritate, to enrage and to demoralize.

There is an objective right and wrong. Those who wish to violate this are those who would try to convince you otherwise.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 23:12:16 ago (+0/-0)

I'm willing to forsake the Jew-God and declare my allegiance to the White-Race.

How about you?

[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:53:01 ago (+3/-0)*

Rebellion as a young person is separating your identity from that of your parents.

Such as a two year old says No.

It's part of growing.

However

While you should become an individual; like a tree, cutting off your roots just makes you fall over.

Diverting growth into an abomination is evil.

Evil people, the perverted, aim to trick youth on their path to independence, into a mental auto-immunity.

They aim manipulate your reputation, that of you which others control. They do so with false peers, imaginary friends. In media.

To the evil, you're just a prop; a consumable temporary thing of no value.

Free will is necessary to achieve your fullest potential. Tyranny reduces you and your kin; lessens you. Notice how devil is un-lived. Lived reversed. That which reduces a person, makes them grow poorly, is in essence evil.

Creativity comes from disorder, disorder is not bad; however meaningless disorder can be, as it saps one's energy, it becomes life-draining.

Evil is that which is life damaging.

Order which stifles is bad, Chaos which drains is negative.

Order which is good may provide efficiencies and protect life. Chaos which is good may provide creativity or novelty.

Evil includes pointless life damaging chaos, includes the filthy, diseased and disgusting, the rapacious - and best describes the parasite class.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 1 point 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:10:02 ago (+1/-0)

Order and chaos are much like light and dark in that you need both. You require both for anything to have meaning. Embrace chaos as much as you strive for order, both are integral to the existence everything.

A world of pure order would suck total balls.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 23:11:16 ago (+0/-0)*

I think you are misinterpreting what "order" and "chaos" is. It's not on the same axis of values as "libertarianism" and "authoritarianism".

It's easy to fall into the error of equating "order" with "good" and "chaos" with "evil". They aren't comparable. Again, different axis of values.

"order" and "chaos" is it's own distinct axis of value and really shouldn't be compared with "good" and "evil" or "libertarianism" and "authoritarianism"

The problem is, Slaves are stuck on the "good vs evil" axis and they can't get off of it, because they are NPCs. So, every conversation conflates the issues to the point where there can't be a conversation about it, because the NPC can't understand it.

See: @Love240's soy response. He can't even have a conversation about order and chaos. He's stuck in his NPC "good vs evil" dichotomy.

Look around at everything you can see. The coffee mug on your desk is "orderly" because it's in a higher energy state. There are fewer configurations that can be defined as a "coffee mug" than there are configurations that can be considered "clay".
Likewise, there are more configurations of "Broken Coffee Mug" than there are of "Coffee Mug".

"Entropy" is the ratio of "total possible states : total desired states".

We need the coffee mug configuration more than the "clay" configuration though, so we expend energy to decrease the entropy of the "clay" to make it into a configuration of "coffee mug". We call this "coffee mug" higher energy state "order" and we call the lower energy state of "clay" chaos.

At no point are either of these states "good" or "evil" its just that one state is useful enough to us that we are willing to expend energy to make the lower energy state with high entropy into a higher energy state with low entropy.

And this is the basis of Pagan European Virtues. Something is "virtuous" in as much as it is fulfilling it's imperative as the thing it is.

So, a coffee mug is virtuous in as it can hold coffee. A coffee mug is in a state of vice if it has a hole in it.

A virtuous cat sleeps on your lap and catches mice.

A virtuous boot stomps baby jews.

In EVERY CASE, a virtuous thing must be in a high order / low entropy state in order to perform the function of virtue.

You strive for order because a virtuous person is able to direct chaotic energy states into orderly energy states. Chaos is the feed stock and Order is the product.

And that's the most rebellious thing you can do because you are attempting to defy the nature of Entropy itself.

Heil Odin! o/

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 17:19:17 ago (+0/-0)

i thought it was white vs. everything else ?

[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 18:45:29 ago (+0/-0)

It's actually jews vs everything else they just sic us on each other.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 17:13:11 ago (+0/-0)

It's not good vs evil, or order vs chaos, but them vs us.

These people see themselves as good and us as evil, they use the public perception of us as evil to turn the masses against our ideas.
What they want is good for them and what we want is good for us, one side's good is the evil of the other.

These people are firmly aligned at the top with order and at the bottom with chaos, which is a directed chaos tat the top seeks to make a new order out of. If we were honest with ourselves, we want the exact same thing, and we do the exact same thing.

You are all so caught up with your heads in your asses that you are pretty hopeless, you live in the abstract ideal world, you should be facing the practi8cal reality of the situation in concrete terms.

It's a tale as old as time, one groups vs the other, locked in an evolutionary struggle, one must perish so that the other may prosper.

Jews vs Gentiles is no different from Neanderthals vs Cro-Magnons.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 17:28:28 ago (+1/-0)

Disagree

By their own words, they think they're better than God. Whether or not you're an atheist; consider a God who could create the universe and all in it. That would be pretty amazing.

Is their a person who can do that?

They think right now, that they are better than that. They said so. Can you imagine how insane you'd have to be to sincerely believe that?

Also they aim to just kill off a bunch of people. - what do you want to do today.... Don't know how about mass murder

We on the other hand want free will for people.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 17:42:54 ago (+0/-0)

You only support freedom right up until it crosses a line you think shouldn't be crossed, the enemy is the same.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 19:09:09 ago (+0/-0)*

One's rights end where others begin.

They are however applying wide scale top down unaccounted application of their will.


Who else did this...
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=64515dea51651

Rockefeller created feminism too; for their personal gain; by fucking over everyone else.