Why doesn't someone just 3D print a new one of these mechanisms to verify how it works and what it does? Certainly not exactly easy, but I bet it could be done.
Papers are just structured differently. I don't mind reading a paper that takes a half hour to get through, but even a 15 minute article feels like a grind.
But touché, I'll take my licks! It's true, I was complaining too much. Kudos for your candor
They used 3d models to recreate it without actually fabricating it. Also the condition of the device had deteriorated severely. They’re not certain how it fits together.
Amazing that the word "Astrology" is not used once in the entire article, despite that being the purpose of this device as well as the conceptual driver between many of the cycles being tracked.
I saw a show about this thing on TV. They built a virtual version of it. There was an ingenious little set up that allowed it to track the moons odd motion. I’m surprised the builder didn’t etch his name on it somewhere… smart m f’er.
[ - ] Had 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:15:18 ago (+1/-1)
Much of the mechanism's design relies on wisdom from earlier Middle Eastern scientists. Astronomy in particular went through a transformation during the first millennium B.C.E. in Babylon and Uruk (both in modern-day Iraq). The Babylonians recorded the daily positions of the astronomical bodies on clay tablets, which revealed that the sun, moon and planets moved in repeating cycles—a fact that was critical for making predictions. The moon, for instance, goes through 254 cycles against the backdrop of the stars every 19 years—an example of a so-called period relation. The Antikythera mechanism's design uses several of the Babylonian period relations.
Yes, the most likely course of events is for this relatively obscure piece of information to travel thousands of miles over hundreds of years from Mesopotamia to Greece over land. Greeks definitely didn't just observe on their own and come to the same realization, except they recorded it on papyrus, which results in no surviving record.
I fucking hate archeologists. Professional bullshit artists. They take 1/1,000,000th of the total picture and draw absurd conclusions. They are the ones that saddled us with "Out of Africa" theory.
Alexander conquered Bablyon and Egypt and brought them under a single Greek system. The Hellenistic period was in part defined by the knowledge from Bablyon and Egypt becoming available to the Greeks, who had developed logic and math and systems for applying it. This produced the first real scientific revolution.
[ + ] SocksOnCats
[ - ] SocksOnCats 2 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 12:06:02 ago (+3/-1)
Why doesn't someone just 3D print a new one of these mechanisms to verify how it works and what it does? Certainly not exactly easy, but I bet it could be done.
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[ - ] The_Reunto 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 13:42:08 ago (+0/-0)
I agree. It may have been more effective as a paper instead of an article
The first step would be a 3D model, and with that soft model it could be examined with physics engines first or some other software to analyze it
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But touché, I'll take my licks! It's true, I was complaining too much. Kudos for your candor
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My 3-D rebuild, when completed, is a Roomba. Didn't understand this until I dropped it and it cleaned the floor in my laboratory.
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[ - ] Had 0 points 11 monthsMay 2, 2023 16:15:18 ago (+1/-1)
Yes, the most likely course of events is for this relatively obscure piece of information to travel thousands of miles over hundreds of years from Mesopotamia to Greece over land. Greeks definitely didn't just observe on their own and come to the same realization, except they recorded it on papyrus, which results in no surviving record.
I fucking hate archeologists. Professional bullshit artists. They take 1/1,000,000th of the total picture and draw absurd conclusions. They are the ones that saddled us with "Out of Africa" theory.
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