In our world, if you take a girl out to have some drinks, and you get drunk and end up sleeping together then that was what it was.
In Cosbys world, it's rape 25 years later if you don't launch her career.. all because he threatened the ((news men)) when he suggested he was going to buy CNN.
He slipped qualuudes in their coffee! Typical of a black to try to get away with that shit. He was a smart nigger but at the end of the day he was a nigger. Wake up.
I feel bad for you for having thought that was how it went down. Its a sign that you havent looked at the evidence because your mind was already made up before the evidence was presented. In testimony she stated she was given 3 small pills. (Not even what ludes look like, BTW). Definitely did not slip it in her drink and not tell her.. I read the case from front to back. You don't know what you're talking about.
Make almost every black actor comedian etc wear a dress.. Dave actually called this out on operah show and that's when they sent him to Africa and tried to kill him
Tell them how Michael Jackson had his reputation destroyed.
the dude was sleeping with kids. he admitted to that fact. are you okay with that? i 'm NOT. a 40 year old dude should NOT sleep with kids that are not his
that's why he got his own (top of keks). he paid some australian white whore to have his kids.
MJs accuser had once already falsely accused another person of doing that to her child.. that little tid bit was not admissible in court.
The woman that said Cosby drugged and raped her, if you read the transcripts, came to his house by herself, drank with him and had buyers remorse when the sex didnt launch her career. If you read first hand accounts of users of qualudes then the symptoms she describes are not consistent with the way she describes the incident . she lied and said she was conscious but body was "paralyzed" by whatever "herbals" Cosby gave her. Not even todays rufium does that.
The media counted almost 70 women that said they were raped by Cosby.. how many of those women were lying? Suppose you think 50 were probably lying. But think about it.. If 50 could lie then 70 can lie. They all disappeared when it hit the pavement except 1 woman who once knocked on Cosbys hotel room door (by herself) prior to the alleged incident. She was courting him.
There were dozens of accusers. A grown man in his 40s was having sleepovers with children because “he just really likes kids” . Okay. Real believable.
If he was straight he would have been fucking sluts. If he was gay he would have had a string of twinks sueing him for palimony, spilling the dirt on him.
He was attacted to children and thats why he spent all his time with them and built an amusement park in his yard. He could get away with it because he was a billionaire.
Cosby basically admitted to drugging women in an interview. Face it, he was an intelligent black man that could not control the chimp like urges that most black people have. He was a known womanizer and all these women tell the same creepy story, including some well known women. He was a perv and contrived an MO to “relax” his women while he jerked himself off in their limp hands. GROSS. We should just be glad he didnt chop anybody’s head off like OJ.
There were dozens of accusers. A grown man in his 40s was having sleepovers with children because “he just really likes kids” . Okay. Real believable.
He had a fucked up childhood and never matured as an adult. His adult relationships with children were his attempt to deal with his own lack of one. I think it's at least possible his intentions and conduct were pure, although obviously I'll never know for sure.
Cosby basically admitted to drugging women in an interview.
"Drugging" or "doing drugs with"? Were the women aware they were taking drugs? If so then that's certainly not upstanding behaviour, but it's not predatory either.
The reality is that hollywood is full of women who do gross things with famous men to get ahead in life. It doesn't make the men in question gentlemen, but it doesn't make the women poor innocent victims either. They didn't visit cosby's house or the playboy mansion expecting tea and cake, they went there to do drugs and have sex.
Im not some jew court. You dont need to prove to me beyond any doubt some nigger drugged women.
Oh hey OJ is really innocent, they couldnt prove it in court. Right? You think OJ is innocent?
Your "all men are rapists" feminist mentality is showing!
If that was true I wouldnt have defended Harvey Weinstein and Ron Jeremy on this forum as being innocent of rape, which they were in spite of being perverts and dirt bags.
Then I was called a jewess. Here you are calling me a man-hating feminist. But its a lazy ad hominem you thought would have a little traction if you flung it at one of the only women here.
My track record speaks for itself. I dont hate men and I dont blindly support rape, sexual harrassment, or pedophilia accusations leveled by DAs against men or women because I dont trust them at all. I believe Cosby and MJ are guilty and you disagree so you are trying to smear me instead of making a valid argument. Classy!
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:37:16 ago (+1/-0)*
What goes into calculating the probability of something like this? Is this judgement based on the fact they're black? I'm actually wondering how you're thinking about this. What did you think about Aaron Carter admitting in an interview that both (a) MJ didn't molest children and (b) the FBI contacted his family (the Carters) in order to offer them money to accuse MJ?
I don't know whether MJ was guilty or not. I do believe MJ was probably passed around and traumatized, and that it is at least possible that psychologically he remained something of a child - at least in certain regards - and was possibly trying to create a place which was actually safe for them. The point isn't whether that idea is rational; given that he wasn't taking custody of those very children, it's almost completely irrational. That's not the point. The question is about intentions, which is a difficult answer to pin down. But I don't consider it implausible that he was trying to do something good for children he believed were vulnerable to the things he'd been exposed to.
In addition to that consideration, we also know that MJ got into hot water with naming the Jew in his songwriting, which might have been just one indication in a string of behaviors that let somebody know MJ might be going off the ranch. CP and child sexual assault allegations are pretty common fodder for canceling someone, at least in the Jewish habit.
Also, what reasoning have you, in light of judging Cosby/MJ guilty, to say that Weinstein was not?
Is this judgement based on the fact they're black?
Well it doesnt help them does it? But if there werent overwhelming evidence of their guilt I wouldnt believe it. I actually dont really believe blacks have a big tendency to molest kids. (Moslims do) I just think MJ has pedophile written all over him. Every weird detail of his life points to it. Plus multiple accusers say he had sex with them
A grown ass man admits to having sleepovers and cuddling with other people’s kids in his bed, has no adult lovers at all, builds an amusement park in his yard, all his best friends are kids— and you guys are all like “How can you think he did this Helena?” Really?
, what reasoning have you, in light of judging Cosby/MJ guilty, to say that Weinstein was not?
Because no one accused Harvey Weinstein of holding them down and forcing his penis in to them —they all agreed to sex. Every single one of his accusers who he had sex with agreed to sex. He was convicted of raping a woman who never said no, led him in to her bedroom and admitted faking an orgasm when with him. Does that seem like rape? No one claimed they were physically forced. No one claimed they were impaired and he took advantage of them. They agreed to sex for jobs. Its called prostitution.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 01:07:51 ago (+1/-0)
I'm biased. That's why I approach this as an agnostic. I consider MJ a genius. I love his music. I have to be conscious of that bias. When you like someone, they can get away with murder.
That said, in any interview where he addressed this, MJ was clear to point out that he allowed children to have his bed, but he always slept on the floor. Neither is an allegation of him sleeping in the same bed as the children to be found in the court documents. This was media spin, largely because of some footage of Michael in a bed sitting with children - while their parents are also there.
A few things make me skeptical of the mainstream media story, besides what I just said. One, I tend to go with the opposite of what the media rails about, in almost all cases. It's usually beneficial, though not always. Two, as was stated already, MJ seems to have been walking off the ranch.
There is no trouble finding some accusers, especially when you are throwing around hundreds of thousands of dollars to get them, and we have evidence - from Carter - that at least one family was approached that was offered bribes to make the accusations.
We'll never actually know.
I find it likelier that Cosby was guilty. People who defend him will make the argument that he was well-connected, but that was never terribly convincing to me, i.e. that women would go out with Bill Cosby to get the 'in'. Maybe. I mean, I guess if he has names and can set up meetings, that would still be remarkably valuable for a wannabe starlet. Though, I never went any deeper researching Cosby than the surface claims. There are some data that don't line up though, namely that the girls were drugged. Well, why were they out with him? Either they are sleeping with him to get in the right room, or they aren't. If he drugged them, what were they doing out with an old man like that anyway? Methinks something like the Weinstein situation could have happened there too.
I think these lines are blurry. Very blurry. For example, if Cosby says, "I drugged women I wanted to have sex with," what does that actually look like? There is a big distinction between (a) woman you're on a date with leaves for the restroom and you spike her cocktail versus (b) you're partying with a group of wannabes - any of which will 'do' - who all would lay down for the right access; you're all partying and dropping God knows what, and you slip them Quaaludes that they swallow indiscriminately.
Whenever we are dealing with celebrities with access/fame, I think it's really hard to be sure about these things.
So do I. I think its a real fucking shame that some of the great geniuses of the world are terrible fucking people. Lewis Carroll was probably a pedohile too. The ancient greek states all accepted pederasty as normal. What can I say. Adult men dont spend all their time socializing with children and having sleep overs and cuddling with them. He admitted to cuddling with these children. He clearly was not interested in women. Or men. Healthy adult men like to fuck. Lol. The ones who are billionaires will never have a hard time finding other adults willing to fuck them for money. Where are those people? Where are the adults who fucked Michael? Why cant they find one adult person who says “I was Michael’s lover” ?
I think it's really hard to be sure about these things.
I agree. But thats why I say “probabilities”. I can only say what I think is highly likely.
The absence of any claims like that is interesting evidence for sure. Like most times, I'm not calling you wrong.
One thing I considered (maybe assumed) is the real possibility for psychological regress, or developmental retardation (not mental retardation, more like failure to pass one of Erickson's stages, or something).
It's not unlike some things we've heard about legitimate cases of women being raped, especially by familial figures/guardians. Especially if the trauma is severe and prolonged, the victim can become sexually guarded (at best) and sometimes sexually stunted. I really believe it is possible for defense mechanisms to preserve a person's mind - at least 'modules' within the mind - in states that are sometimes far behind the person's age/physical development.
There are cases of victimized women that cannot even have sex. It's not unthinkable that if intercourse with another human being is that stressful, that a person would not seek it out.
I thought that maybe Michael was such a case. Of course we can't speak to what all of his sexual habits might of looked like (masturbation or whatever), but I think it's possible that if he'd been traumatized, he may not have sought sex with adults. It might also explain his orientation toward children and attempting to preserve something he'd felt was taken from him, by attempting to realize the fictional Neverland.
If women can be sexually maligned from childhood sexual trauma, I would think that boys could be as well.
I tend to discount complicated psychological explanations because I think alot of that stuff is basically myth created by 20th cent psychoanalysts. A bad childhood makes a grown man want to seek friendships out with children? Its just contrary to my experience.
Men have much stronger libidos than women. They need to because sexual competition is much tougher for men and fussy neurotic women tend to get fucked (historically) whether they want to be or not. Many women dont want to have sex, and they find reasons for why they dont: “somebody raped me once” . Even if they believe thats why they dont want to have sex, its not necessarily the real reason. But healthy young men really want to put their penises in people in my experience. Especially black ones.
I think wanting to have sex with kids is caused by some sort of brain damage and he would have been attracted to kids no matter what his childhood was like. I dont think joe made him gay. Didnt he used to play with pet rats as a kid? Maybe he got toxoplasmosis or something weird from them that twisted his mind.
Do you think he was sexually attracted to adult women? Or men? Why did he have sleep overs with other peoples’ kids? He was 40. Why do you think he built an amusement park in his yard? How many signs do you need?
The dude was weird, no doubt. But weird does not equal a pedo. There is no doubt there was a media hit on him. I have seen way worse just walking my dog outside (a story for another day).
I trust my eyes and ears way more than I trust the media. The guy stroke me as the kind of person that would castrate a pedophile to protect a child rather than the one that would abuse one. I don't believe any of it. It was like he himself was a child.
Cosby was guilty of degeneracy, I don't believe he raped anyone and even if he did there's no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt decades later based only on accusations. He should not have been convicted.
MJ was guilty of being creepy and crazy, I'm not convinced he was guilty of anything beyond that although it's certainly possible. Given his position, the threat he presented to his former masters and their MO it's reasonable to conclude the accusations against him and his manner of death were politically motivated.
Chappelle doesnt think mj was guilty at least in his show he said it. Also that if he did those kids should be honored that michael saw them fit enough to diddle.
No black people can accept that he was guilty. They couldnt accept OJ either. All of their heros are antisocial nutjobs and they cant acknowledge that they are representative of the average black. I like chappelle and kanye as far a blacks go, but if someone gets raped and murdered in their general vicinity Im gonna suspect them. The probabilities of black men raping, murdering, stealing, etc just dwarf the probabilities of every other group on the planet doing the same.
I DONT CARE WHAT U INTERACT WITH U A CRAZY CAVE BITCH WITH 100 NAMES HERE. GO MAKE UP SOME NEW ACCOUNTS HOE DONT NOBODY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT U OR ANY OF THESE OTHER CRACKAS
Yeah my feelings and takeaways from the FULL clip is basically the same as Devon's. OP should've really posted the whole video because of how important it is to see the complete picture. It's stupid to clip out just the "based" sections because there was so much dumb garbage in the whole thing. FFS dave says he's embarrassed as a democrat and yet he pushed the "muh trump & Russian collusion" bullshit. That's funny dave, I don't recall the I an AIPAC standing for Russia, or that bibi netanyahu is the president of Russia, or that kushner is a Russian Orthodox Christian, or that some the criminals trump pardoned on his last day were handlers of KGB spies and Russian businessmen.
And yeah, they definitely trotted this nigger (who acts like he's above niggers but is still a fucking nigger) out to make a joke out of the whole thing. Just like how "epstein didn't kill himself" became a meme even though it's enraging how they just blatantly and shamelessly "disappeared" one of the most notorious and important public figures in modern history. Just make everything "problematic" a joke, that's how you get the goyim to not take things seriously anymore. Fuck dave chappelle, and fuck the kikes.
Here's a link to the full clip on bitchute for those interested: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GA8HcggyEYBU/ For the jewtube link, check the comment by blumen4alles in this thread.
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 11 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 17:59:10 ago (+12/-1)
Tell everyone how they framed Cosby and apologize for calling him a rapist.
Tell them how Michael Jackson had his reputation destroyed.
Show everyone that blacks only have first amendment rights if they are following the democratic script.
If a billionaire black man doesn't have the most basic rights then none of you do.
[ + ] zr855
[ - ] zr855 3 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:06:07 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 5 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:15:11 ago (+5/-0)
In Cosbys world, it's rape 25 years later if you don't launch her career.. all because he threatened the ((news men)) when he suggested he was going to buy CNN.
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:31:11 ago (+1/-0)
But I think the station was NBC. The station that runs snl coincidentally.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:17:48 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 00:15:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deathstalker
[ - ] Deathstalker 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:47:33 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Doglegwarrior 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 21:27:43 ago (+2/-0)
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[ + ] knightwarrior41
[ - ] knightwarrior41 -2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:41:53 ago (+0/-2)
the dude was sleeping with kids. he admitted to that fact. are you okay with that? i 'm NOT. a 40 year old dude should NOT sleep with kids that are not his
that's why he got his own (top of keks). he paid some australian white whore to have his kids.
[ + ] goatfugee12
[ - ] goatfugee12 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 07:41:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -15 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:05:39 ago (+4/-19)
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 8 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:37:01 ago (+10/-2)
In the Cosby trial testimony was done by actresses not by the accusers!!!
That's why they had to let him go on a (((technicality))) while never allowing him to defend himself.
He was the most influential black conservative in the USA and they destroyed him with slander and ignored all due process.
And we are seeing the same shit play out again to the most influential black conservative in the USA right now!!!
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -7 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:40:01 ago (+3/-10)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 10 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:51:02 ago (+10/-0)*
MJs accuser had once already falsely accused another person of doing that to her child.. that little tid bit was not admissible in court.
The woman that said Cosby drugged and raped her, if you read the transcripts, came to his house by herself, drank with him and had buyers remorse when the sex didnt launch her career. If you read first hand accounts of users of qualudes then the symptoms she describes are not consistent with the way she describes the incident . she lied and said she was conscious but body was "paralyzed" by whatever "herbals" Cosby gave her. Not even todays rufium does that.
The media counted almost 70 women that said they were raped by Cosby.. how many of those women were lying? Suppose you think 50 were probably lying. But think about it.. If 50 could lie then 70 can lie. They all disappeared when it hit the pavement except 1 woman who once knocked on Cosbys hotel room door (by herself) prior to the alleged incident. She was courting him.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 8 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:56:25 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -4 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:15:08 ago (+1/-5)
There were dozens of accusers. A grown man in his 40s was having sleepovers with children because “he just really likes kids” . Okay. Real believable.
If he was straight he would have been fucking sluts. If he was gay he would have had a string of twinks sueing him for palimony, spilling the dirt on him.
He was attacted to children and thats why he spent all his time with them and built an amusement park in his yard. He could get away with it because he was a billionaire.
Cosby basically admitted to drugging women in an interview. Face it, he was an intelligent black man that could not control the chimp like urges that most black people have. He was a known womanizer and all these women tell the same creepy story, including some well known women. He was a perv and contrived an MO to “relax” his women while he jerked himself off in their limp hands. GROSS. We should just be glad he didnt chop anybody’s head off like OJ.
[ + ] Nein
[ - ] Nein 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:42:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 00:20:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 01:00:43 ago (+1/-0)
He had a fucked up childhood and never matured as an adult. His adult relationships with children were his attempt to deal with his own lack of one. I think it's at least possible his intentions and conduct were pure, although obviously I'll never know for sure.
"Drugging" or "doing drugs with"? Were the women aware they were taking drugs? If so then that's certainly not upstanding behaviour, but it's not predatory either.
The reality is that hollywood is full of women who do gross things with famous men to get ahead in life. It doesn't make the men in question gentlemen, but it doesn't make the women poor innocent victims either. They didn't visit cosby's house or the playboy mansion expecting tea and cake, they went there to do drugs and have sex.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 15:41:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 26, 2022 18:48:55 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:19:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:28:05 ago (+0/-1)
Pretty sure that’s not according to me. Pretty sure you just pulled that out of your ass.
If a man buys me a drink and I accept, Im drugging myself
If a man brings me coffee which he put qualudes in, without my knowlege, he’s drugging me.
.....According to ME, as if you cared what I actually said, when it’s such fun to just make up ridiculous things and just attribute them to me.
Try to distinguish the difference, its really fucking subtle and nuanced.
Has a buddy ever given you a beer?
Has a buddy ever put qualudes in your coffee?
Is their a fuckng difference, weirdo?
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 6 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:29:11 ago (+6/-0)
The prosecution is supposed to prove they are guilty.
Your "all men are rapists" feminist mentality is showing!
So let me ask you, can women be rapists or pedophiles? Or are you defending half the rapists?!
Your rapist privilege is showing post wall. Check yourself!
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -4 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:47:00 ago (+1/-5)
Oh hey OJ is really innocent, they couldnt prove it in court. Right? You think OJ is innocent?
Then I was called a jewess. Here you are calling me a man-hating feminist. But its a lazy ad hominem you thought would have a little traction if you flung it at one of the only women here.
My track record speaks for itself. I dont hate men and I dont blindly support rape, sexual harrassment, or pedophilia accusations leveled by DAs against men or women because I dont trust them at all. I believe Cosby and MJ are guilty and you disagree so you are trying to smear me instead of making a valid argument. Classy!
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:37:16 ago (+1/-0)*
I don't know whether MJ was guilty or not. I do believe MJ was probably passed around and traumatized, and that it is at least possible that psychologically he remained something of a child - at least in certain regards - and was possibly trying to create a place which was actually safe for them. The point isn't whether that idea is rational; given that he wasn't taking custody of those very children, it's almost completely irrational. That's not the point. The question is about intentions, which is a difficult answer to pin down. But I don't consider it implausible that he was trying to do something good for children he believed were vulnerable to the things he'd been exposed to.
In addition to that consideration, we also know that MJ got into hot water with naming the Jew in his songwriting, which might have been just one indication in a string of behaviors that let somebody know MJ might be going off the ranch. CP and child sexual assault allegations are pretty common fodder for canceling someone, at least in the Jewish habit.
Also, what reasoning have you, in light of judging Cosby/MJ guilty, to say that Weinstein was not?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -2 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 00:07:01 ago (+0/-2)
Well it doesnt help them does it? But if there werent overwhelming evidence of their guilt I wouldnt believe it. I actually dont really believe blacks have a big tendency to molest kids. (Moslims do) I just think MJ has pedophile written all over him. Every weird detail of his life points to it. Plus multiple accusers say he had sex with them
A grown ass man admits to having sleepovers and cuddling with other people’s kids in his bed, has no adult lovers at all, builds an amusement park in his yard, all his best friends are kids— and you guys are all like “How can you think he did this Helena?” Really?
Because no one accused Harvey Weinstein of holding them down and forcing his penis in to them —they all agreed to sex. Every single one of his accusers who he had sex with agreed to sex. He was convicted of raping a woman who never said no, led him in to her bedroom and admitted faking an orgasm when with him. Does that seem like rape? No one claimed they were physically forced. No one claimed they were impaired and he took advantage of them. They agreed to sex for jobs. Its called prostitution.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 01:07:51 ago (+1/-0)
That said, in any interview where he addressed this, MJ was clear to point out that he allowed children to have his bed, but he always slept on the floor. Neither is an allegation of him sleeping in the same bed as the children to be found in the court documents. This was media spin, largely because of some footage of Michael in a bed sitting with children - while their parents are also there.
A few things make me skeptical of the mainstream media story, besides what I just said. One, I tend to go with the opposite of what the media rails about, in almost all cases. It's usually beneficial, though not always. Two, as was stated already, MJ seems to have been walking off the ranch.
There is no trouble finding some accusers, especially when you are throwing around hundreds of thousands of dollars to get them, and we have evidence - from Carter - that at least one family was approached that was offered bribes to make the accusations.
We'll never actually know.
I find it likelier that Cosby was guilty. People who defend him will make the argument that he was well-connected, but that was never terribly convincing to me, i.e. that women would go out with Bill Cosby to get the 'in'. Maybe. I mean, I guess if he has names and can set up meetings, that would still be remarkably valuable for a wannabe starlet. Though, I never went any deeper researching Cosby than the surface claims. There are some data that don't line up though, namely that the girls were drugged. Well, why were they out with him? Either they are sleeping with him to get in the right room, or they aren't. If he drugged them, what were they doing out with an old man like that anyway? Methinks something like the Weinstein situation could have happened there too.
I think these lines are blurry. Very blurry. For example, if Cosby says, "I drugged women I wanted to have sex with," what does that actually look like? There is a big distinction between (a) woman you're on a date with leaves for the restroom and you spike her cocktail versus (b) you're partying with a group of wannabes - any of which will 'do' - who all would lay down for the right access; you're all partying and dropping God knows what, and you slip them Quaaludes that they swallow indiscriminately.
Whenever we are dealing with celebrities with access/fame, I think it's really hard to be sure about these things.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 15:11:20 ago (+0/-0)
So do I. I think its a real fucking shame that some of the great geniuses of the world are terrible fucking people. Lewis Carroll was probably a pedohile too. The ancient greek states all accepted pederasty as normal. What can I say. Adult men dont spend all their time socializing with children and having sleep overs and cuddling with them. He admitted to cuddling with these children. He clearly was not interested in women. Or men. Healthy adult men like to fuck. Lol. The ones who are billionaires will never have a hard time finding other adults willing to fuck them for money. Where are those people? Where are the adults who fucked Michael? Why cant they find one adult person who says “I was Michael’s lover” ?
I agree. But thats why I say “probabilities”. I can only say what I think is highly likely.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 15, 2022 00:04:20 ago (+0/-0)
One thing I considered (maybe assumed) is the real possibility for psychological regress, or developmental retardation (not mental retardation, more like failure to pass one of Erickson's stages, or something).
It's not unlike some things we've heard about legitimate cases of women being raped, especially by familial figures/guardians. Especially if the trauma is severe and prolonged, the victim can become sexually guarded (at best) and sometimes sexually stunted. I really believe it is possible for defense mechanisms to preserve a person's mind - at least 'modules' within the mind - in states that are sometimes far behind the person's age/physical development.
There are cases of victimized women that cannot even have sex. It's not unthinkable that if intercourse with another human being is that stressful, that a person would not seek it out.
I thought that maybe Michael was such a case. Of course we can't speak to what all of his sexual habits might of looked like (masturbation or whatever), but I think it's possible that if he'd been traumatized, he may not have sought sex with adults. It might also explain his orientation toward children and attempting to preserve something he'd felt was taken from him, by attempting to realize the fictional Neverland.
If women can be sexually maligned from childhood sexual trauma, I would think that boys could be as well.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 15, 2022 00:32:11 ago (+0/-0)
Men have much stronger libidos than women. They need to because sexual competition is much tougher for men and fussy neurotic women tend to get fucked (historically) whether they want to be or not. Many women dont want to have sex, and they find reasons for why they dont: “somebody raped me once” . Even if they believe thats why they dont want to have sex, its not necessarily the real reason. But healthy young men really want to put their penises in people in my experience. Especially black ones.
I think wanting to have sex with kids is caused by some sort of brain damage and he would have been attracted to kids no matter what his childhood was like. I dont think joe made him gay. Didnt he used to play with pet rats as a kid? Maybe he got toxoplasmosis or something weird from them that twisted his mind.
[ + ] Hoobeejoo
[ - ] Hoobeejoo 3 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:28:37 ago (+3/-0)
I used to think he was guilty, but not anymore.
But I don't wanna waste our time trying to change your mind if you aren't interested.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:41:54 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] solomonpapermaster
[ - ] solomonpapermaster 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 21:46:05 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:40:18 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] solomonpapermaster
[ - ] solomonpapermaster 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 00:46:37 ago (+1/-0)*
I trust my eyes and ears way more than I trust the media. The guy stroke me as the kind of person that would castrate a pedophile to protect a child rather than the one that would abuse one. I don't believe any of it. It was like he himself was a child.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 00:55:29 ago (+2/-0)
MJ was guilty of being creepy and crazy, I'm not convinced he was guilty of anything beyond that although it's certainly possible. Given his position, the threat he presented to his former masters and their MO it's reasonable to conclude the accusations against him and his manner of death were politically motivated.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:04:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:15:51 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:38:57 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:51:28 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 1 point 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 07:33:11 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 14, 2022 14:53:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:36:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 22:47:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NukeAmerica
[ - ] NukeAmerica -1 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:15:03 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 6 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 19:26:40 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] 0rion
[ - ] 0rion 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 21:20:23 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] mainstreamsneeze
[ - ] mainstreamsneeze 4 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:37:33 ago (+4/-0)
Devon Stack take on it, audio from his telegram channel:
https://files.catbox.moe/9ujtb7.ogg
[ + ] oyy_veyy_goyy
[ - ] oyy_veyy_goyy 5 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 22:31:07 ago (+5/-0)
And yeah, they definitely trotted this nigger (who acts like he's above niggers but is still a fucking nigger) out to make a joke out of the whole thing. Just like how "epstein didn't kill himself" became a meme even though it's enraging how they just blatantly and shamelessly "disappeared" one of the most notorious and important public figures in modern history. Just make everything "problematic" a joke, that's how you get the goyim to not take things seriously anymore. Fuck dave chappelle, and fuck the kikes.
Here's a link to the full clip on bitchute for those interested: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GA8HcggyEYBU/
For the jewtube link, check the comment by blumen4alles in this thread.
[ + ] KeepPoal4fags
[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 2 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 23:31:57 ago (+2/-0)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EPKqdrobYCJ8/
[ + ] con77
[ - ] con77 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:58:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 17:54:06 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena [op] 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 18:06:31 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] voatersaredumbasses
[ - ] voatersaredumbasses 0 points 1.5 yearsNov 13, 2022 20:50:01 ago (+0/-0)