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A Non-pozzed computer

submitted by websiteuser to Computers 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 15:48:47 ago (+8/-1)     (Computers)

Suppose I want to build a computer with as few back doors as possible, but also as "fast" as possible.

At what point did computers stop being only your own property? I want to build one from right before then.

So given no IME and no UEFI; what models can you recommend? No I'm not going to be using it for gaming because I'm a real man. 486? 586? That's about when I stopped paying attention to computer hardware.

Thanks assholes.


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[ - ] WhatColorIsYourTigerCage 5 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:04:28 ago (+6/-1)

You can get a no backdoor computer by installing coreboot or libreboot. and then using Devuan or some other systemd free OS...

I think that system76 sells them already.

[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:09:15 ago (+1/-0)

Can you actually replace your motherboards BIOS/UEFI with coreboot? Is there a tutorial on how to do this? I hate my motherboards UEFI thing. Also, it takes forever to boot.

[ - ] WhatColorIsYourTigerCage 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 28, 2022 14:27:34 ago (+0/-0)

I've only gotten it to work once, but the desktop I did it to booted to my login in 9 seconds.

There are a bunch of youtube videos of how to do it.

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:27:52 ago (+1/-0)

I agree with this guy, with pleasant enthusiasm!

[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:03:58 ago (+4/-0)

You probably want to look into RISC V.

[ - ] Version6 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:00:27 ago (+1/-0)

Possibly BeagleV for something inexpensive.

[ - ] patchCodeUnsuccessful 3 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:10:06 ago (+3/-0)

Why concern yourself with that when you can build a decent firewall and run iptables? There's no such thing as an unhackable system. Backdoors have always been theorized. 486 had it's own set of fun. So, if you want a fast machine that's clean never connect it to the web. If you want a machine that'll be raped by the web at least wear some rubber.

[ - ] Wahaha 2 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 16:07:10 ago (+2/-0)

Hardware backdoors were baked into CPUs since 2014/2015 or so.

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 19:04:47 ago (+0/-0)

LoL seriously? They been there since 1990 at least

[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 20:08:09 ago (+0/-0)

You're probably right, but only 0.01% of PCs in 1990 had a phone line connected (;

OP, air gap your PC from the web!

[ - ] RecycledElectrons 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 20:44:59 ago (+0/-0)

I've had my air-gapped PC hacked. The sound system is part of the networking stack. There are mics hidden in motherboards. The PC received a chirp from my cell phone when an attorney activated a "feature activation" and he pwned the PC.

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 23:22:19 ago (+0/-0)

Do you have more info on these hidden activated microphones?

[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 23:27:24 ago (+0/-0)

Pwned it so hard bh4j is worried!

[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 28, 2022 05:10:45 ago (+0/-0)

I mean the ones that can be utilized without physical access. Even without backdoors, once physical access is possible you are no longer safe. They could just add a hardware keylogger.

[ - ] drhitler 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 28, 2022 02:32:47 ago (+1/-0)

the real question is your data that important?

Are you designing something that will turn an entire industry upside down overnight?

[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 23:21:09 ago (+1/-0)

The thing about running a Pentium or whatever is you will be stuck with an OS that likely hasn't been updated in forever. It's possible that a modern Linux would work, but I'm not sure. An old OS will be bad because it will have numerous known security holes that never will be patched.

Probably the first post here, which I'm going to upvote, is the best you can do.

[ - ] RecycledElectrons 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 17:21:01 ago (+1/-0)

Intel Xeon-based workstation, maybe a used Dell T5810 or HP Z440. Run Kali Linux on it.

The government still has backdoors into everything. They can play beeps that make analog tape recorders from the 1980's stop working.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 18:15:07 ago (+0/-0)

Kali? Out of all OSes? God. Kali turned into shit the moment it was transformed from backtrack. Since the beginning. Maybe backtrack was shit too, i was too green to notice then.

[ - ] RecycledElectrons 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 20:39:47 ago (+0/-0)

What do you reccomend?

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 28, 2022 05:24:15 ago (+0/-0)

If you want better security for yourself, it's not about specific OS, but the configuration and setting you have installed in your linux system(arch, mint etc). Yes there is Tails and variations, but they provide security and trade off usability.
If you want offensive security, then yes, go ahead, install kali. Although i would recommend arch with aur and if you really want to go further, then there is archstrike. Although, it's more about specific tools and scripts. Kali just has packages installed by default so people can feel l33t.

[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 28, 2022 08:43:23 ago (+0/-0)

KayPro

[ - ] CPU 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 27, 2022 19:48:03 ago (+0/-0)

Purism