A moderately long effort post. Bear with me. I hate long-winded posts.
The commissars implemented a workercentric economic system for all of its flaws. Unlike American capitalists they didn't bring in, or more precisely, lobby the government to bring in foreign labor like capitalists did to undercut workers' salaries. Communists were the government. As such immigration is in large part a function of being ruled by capitalists.
- Communism saved the American worker.
https://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/communism_saved_the_american_worker_how_soviet_competition_raised_our_living_standards/- Today the former Eastern Bloc is less woke than Western Europe with fewer immigrants. So too Russia.
- Tito's Yugoslavia was a relatively successful state having by some metrics living standards comparable to Western Europe. And that even as an Eastern European backwater.
- The East German Stasi state has probably been the least disastrous of political Germany since unification in 1871 given that Imperial Germany and the Third Reich were destroyed in war, the Weimar Republic succumbed to economic catastrophe, and the post-war West German regime and the Merkel state it was later amalgamated into was drowned in Turks, Arabs, and other garbage.
- Even North Korea is a bastion of racial purity. Not a multiracial shithole like the United States. Matteo Salvini has praised North Korea:
"North Korea has much to be admired... They have a splendid sense of community. Children play on the streets and respect their elders - things that no longer exist in Italy.”
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Bickering over definition aside... things like immigration policy were not subject to corporate pressure in Communist states. They are here - and there is just very little similarity between the economies of the Soviet Union and the United States in how they have been structured, who has called the shots, and in how they have functioned.
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But count all the dead in imperialist wars. Or US wars for that matter. Or abortion. Or the slave trade. Or on it goes. Westerners couldn't even stop killing each other for that matter. How about them world wars? All commies I guess?
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A lot died in a major conflict in China in the 19th century involving Christians. Blame Christians or something I guess. China has a lot of people anyway. More to get killed.
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He was long dead by the time any of these regimes killed people though. What's the relevance of your question really? You should be reading books about the Soviet Union or Ethiopia or something if you want relevant material for this.
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The shithole comment is also a bit simplistic. There are capitalist states with comparable living standards to the USSR getting immigrants. Communist countries were also economically backward less for being Communist than for what they were. Russia was not an advanced society before Communism. In important ways it was though with Communism.
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Let's return to what I actually said. There were in no way a comparable number of illegal immigrants to any communist country anywhere ever. Because they are shit holes.
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The point being, of course, that Romania and Albania were ALREADY shitholes BEFORE Communism.
What you actually said is absolutely no one wanted to move to these countries. Which reveals you know very little about this topic as some did. And continue to do so. China has a growing African population for starters.
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Can you point me to ANY large influx of illegal immigrants to Any communist country Anywhere at Any time?
No. You can't.
Seethe harder jew
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And dude, you don't even know how many the Communists killed. As usual your stuff is all tarded.
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McCarthy was not notably racialist though. He wasn't Theodore Bilbo. I dunno what he would think of America today. It is safe to assume he'd have some issues though.