Your navy is falling apart. Your crews are full of degenerates and women.
All your new construction programs have failed for over twenty years now.
Graft and corruption like more billions to be spent on shitty lcs program.
Losing capabilies like a6 prowler with no means to replace it.
The failed 335 program leading to the retention of the fifty year old f18.
Building four ships per year. Less than what is being retired due to age so you navy is shrinking at a time China grows by 15 main surface vessels a year.
Americans. You have no tech advantage. You wasted your navy traditions. Your ships are aging. You have no replacements in site Your manufacturing base and engineers are a fraction of what America once had
You're fucked if you think you can beat China and Russia alliance in a war now
The Russian navy is just as much of a joke and the Chinks build garbage and have absolutely zero experience in battle. Both of them together would be an even match for the US. The US military budget does buy an advantage when it comes to hardware. Only new tactics upset the status quo. Drones, especially submersible drones, would be the game changer. The Chinks would lose their navy in a conventional engagement, but they don't want that. They expect to sucker the US into fighting in the South China Sea, which is the only way they would win decisively.
You're fucked if you think you can beat China and Russia alliance in a war now
If we were ever fighting China and Russia, we would be the bad guys. The only reasons Israel hasn't completely dominated the middle east is because of China/Russia. They're the only reason Iran has a nuclear program, etc.
And Russia may be the last diversity free homeland for anyone remotely White left on the planet.
A carrier is a moving target without a multitude of support ships whose sole purpose is to supply it and protect it. Satellite targeting systems renders those defensive ships capabilities moot. There is a reason that the navy is shrinking. Ships are very vulnerable to today's weapons. Just like war is constantly evolving, and tanks are now vulnerable, the idea of the great white fleet is dead. The Chinese are very late to the table. Comments in this thread mention Taiwan and Japan , this ship would not survive 15 minutes. The only possible purpose would be the protection of Chinese's African interests.
Staffed by people that don't know how to fight in a world of long range hypersonic missiles!!!
The uk navy have two carriers and I would not be surprised if they could take all three out with no losses. So how would the Chinese navy manage against the USA with nine carriers?
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:25:07 ago (+1/-0)
The US has 11 carriers last I checked. The Chinks will use drone swarms and they will be effective. I'm not sure why they're building any carriers except to fuck with Taiwan and Japan. Their opponents don't have hypersonic capability yet.
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:39:50 ago (+1/-0)
Eh, they've been able to operate their other shitty rafts for decades without them sinking. The US and Russia may have a worse track record in that regard. Though I suppose no one would ever hear about the Chinks losing a submarine like the Russians.
[ + ] Belrick
[ - ] Belrick 9 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:40:38 ago (+9/-0)
Your navy is falling apart. Your crews are full of degenerates and women.
All your new construction programs have failed for over twenty years now.
Graft and corruption like more billions to be spent on shitty lcs program.
Losing capabilies like a6 prowler with no means to replace it.
The failed 335 program leading to the retention of the fifty year old f18.
Building four ships per year. Less than what is being retired due to age so you navy is shrinking at a time China grows by 15 main surface vessels a year.
Americans. You have no tech advantage. You wasted your navy traditions.
Your ships are aging.
You have no replacements in site
Your manufacturing base and engineers are a fraction of what America once had
You're fucked if you think you can beat China and Russia alliance in a war now
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:45:58 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 11:20:47 ago (+0/-0)
If we were ever fighting China and Russia, we would be the bad guys. The only reasons Israel hasn't completely dominated the middle east is because of China/Russia. They're the only reason Iran has a nuclear program, etc.
And Russia may be the last diversity free homeland for anyone remotely White left on the planet.
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 11:50:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Belrick
[ - ] Belrick 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 19, 2022 02:29:31 ago (+0/-0)
Maybe surface ships are obsolete but half of china's and usn new builds are subs and the threat to subs still is surface ships
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 3 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 19:45:38 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 20:53:13 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 02:39:33 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 23:26:46 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 23:32:11 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GeneralDisarray
[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:11:47 ago (+1/-0)
Made by crap Chinese standards!!
Staffed by people that don't know how to fight in a world of long range hypersonic missiles!!!
The uk navy have two carriers and I would not be surprised if they could take all three out with no losses. So how would the Chinese navy manage against the USA with nine carriers?
They wouldn't last a day if war broke out.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:25:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] RepublicanNerd
[ - ] RepublicanNerd 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 00:21:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] pshawman
[ - ] pshawman 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 06:11:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 18, 2022 11:41:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 20:53:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:26:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:29:30 ago (+0/-0)
MSW= Main SeaWater,FYI.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 17, 2022 21:39:50 ago (+1/-0)