So now that my final appeal has been denied, my options are "get the shot, request separation, or refuse and be forced out."
If I request early separation, there's no guarantee they'll accept it, although many have been successful. If the do accept it, it'll at least be an honorable discharge.
If I refuse, or if they deny my early separation, I'd get paperwork a couple times until they try kicking me out with a general discharge. Since I've been in over six years, I'm entitled to a separation board. This may buy me a couple months, but in the board, I'll be pleading why I don't deserve a general discharge; and if I'm really lucky, I'd get to plea why I should stay in.
Yeah, I know the military serves the jew, but I was trying to get my retirement shekel.
Oh I have. I've been updating everyone's bullshit training wherever possible, like pre-season brief for all the motorcycle guys, and laser safety for all my coworkers.
You want me to update something? Let me just log in real quick. What about those fuel cans that were expired? Don't worry about them. Also, I totally cleaned my rifle, and here's a new (totally not photoshopped) copy of my flightline drivers license.
Oh, btw, I have pain in my shoulder, knee, wrist, lower back, and head. I have tinnitus, and I think I'm loosing my hearing. Also, I need a test for sleep apnea.
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On a side note, I had one guy claim he couldn't get a boner when he separated, and there was nothing they could do prove him wrong.
Gotcha. So basically you get a single day off because of fire ants?
In my current position, I'm hardly working to begin with. They're expecting me to be leaving, so there's already backups and alternates on all my programs. My leadership is on my side and I mostly have free rein over my workday, so long as I meet some bare minimum standards.
Have you tried a well written Notice of Liability? They were always going to turn down your "accommodation" because that's still you asking them for permission. Write a well written Notice of Liability, that you tell them that unless they can prove the safety of the vax (they can't) you will hold them liable for any damages you suffer as a result of it. In the same letter demand their liability insurance policy number and provider information because you'll likely be needing that, as explained in your Notice of Liability.
unless they can prove the safety of the vax (they can't)
They can claim the safety of the vax, point to nothing and tell you to eat shit when you ask for verification, and then 40 years later, well after you died, admit to maybe a mistake.
You're wrong. If you're in court you can ask them to prove it...then they have to, if they can't, you have a lot you can do legally. They can "claim" all they want...it up to you to ask the court to force them to prove it, which they can't.
Your mindset, your controlled mind, is why there's a breakdown in law. If the majority of people were like me instead of mind controlled like you there wouldn't be a break down in law. You don't understand this as well as I do, but when you're talking about the law you have to think of logistics first. As in, they can't arrest all of us. The effectiveness of a law depends on the masses minds believing it can be enforced. That's why you, and people like you, are the reason these asinine laws are even effective at all. You're literally the problem dumbass. Congrats...
True. I talked with the JAG officer (military lawyer) today and asked him specifically about these lawsuits. Specifically, can he still represent me at my discharge board (if that's the route I choose) if I join these lawsuits.
Short answer, yes. However, if I higher a civilian lawyer to represent me at my discharge board, he can no longer help, but joining civil lawsuits have no effect on his representation on internal matters.
The board should be told that, as the injections are not FDA approved, forcing you to get one is an unlawful order, which you are duty-bound to refuse.
"But the shot IS approved!" they'll counter. Bullshit. The FDA approval was for Pfizer's Comirnaty shot, which has never been made available. The only one they have available is BioNTech, which is not approved.
"They're the same thing!" they'll try to say. If they're the same thing, then why are they legally distinct, with one being approved and one not? Why is only the unapproved one available?
If the Pfizer shot was truly approved and available, that would have immediately ended the EUA for every other shot, as the stipulation is that "no approved alternative is available."
"Then you'll get Moderna, which IS approved!" they'll try to corner you with. If Moderna is approved, why have J&J and Astra-Zenica not had their EUA's revoked? Again, the EUA requires that there be "no approved alternative available." If Comirnaty has never been made available, and J&J/AZ have not had their EUA revoked, then logically Moderna can't actually be approved, or if it is, then the specific formulation is, again, not available.
As funny as it is, there's a couple jews and muslims that's part of my massive text group that have been denied as well. Even Chaplains have been denied.
Perhaps, but only if they're willing to play ball. One of the reasons I want to stay in is so they can't purge all of us.
During covid, they had me working the quarantine hotel for the pilots. I'd tell them don't get locked out, and there's a pizza hut just down the street attached to a gas station. Things are far more effective if you have like minded people on the inside.
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 04:20:11 ago (+1/-0)
If you go to the separation board, and it looks like there's no way to win - Remember this - People are lazy sacks of shit who are always looking for the easy way out.
Make it clear that giving you an honorable discharge with full pay and the full pension that you would have received if you were not discharged is the easy way out. If they give you that, you'll stop fighting. And this will not come back at them (not back at the Air Force) but back at them as individuals.
For the rest of their careers the Air Force will need someone to blame for every vaccine injury, miscarriage, blood clot, heart attack, death. It's all going to fall on them as individuals. The rest of their careers are going to be hell. Someone will have to take the blame.
But.... full pay, full pension as if you were never discharged, along with an honorable discharge - And they'll never hear for you again.
They want to fight you on this? Well, you've fought this much for this long, you'll keep going. The only difference is that after your discharge, you'll have nothing to lose. Or they can give you everything you ask for, and you'll walk off into the sunset and they never see you again.
What will they choose? They'll choose the easy way out. The one where they as individuals don't have to deal with it.
They're scared. The vaccine injuries, heart attacks, miscarriages, deaths - It's never going to end. - Give them a way out.
Hey man, i know military fags catch a lot of hate around these circles, but i think we need good people inside. Of course you cant do much individually, but every cunt counts. Infiltration is how the kabalists created their power, and it should be used against them in turn. Carry on bro.
Any exemption is a cop-out, especially a jew based religion.
Just tell your employer no.
It was very easy for me to say, I lost my job and was nearly homeless, but at least im not a dickless, low T, soy faggot.
If more people stood up and weren't all yes men clamoring for favour from daddy government, and their slime ball boss being a wage slave 24/7, then maybe we would have a better country. But alas most people around me are spineless, mulato, queers and coalburners these days so it's too much to ask I guess.
Guy was called up in front of the commander for DUI while he was on leave.
Was found passed out drunk and high off meth in his car under a bridge in LA somewhere.
During the course of the commander basically telling the guy his punishment he jumps on the commanders desk flips him the California hello turns around and moons the guy.
Fuckin legend. They marched the guy right off the base said don't come back. Still don't know what happened to the guy after that.
[ - ] Had 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:10:57 ago (+0/-0)
Rebut the LOR. There's a colonel from Alaska that wrote a great rebuttal. They won't care, but it will redpill your chain of command. They will start a UIF on you and force you out in a year. Fuck em.
It's not about fighting for the jews at this point. It's about making sure they don't jew him out of the shekels they owe him because they claimed he was "insubordinate" for not participating in a medical experiment.
Doesn't seem like he has any desire to stay in, but wants to make sure they don't get to kike out of what they owe him.
If biden never made it to office, I'd be willing to stay until my 20 year mark, but not a day past that.
When I learned about the jew several years ago, I decided to remain in for the 20 years. Although we were "fighting" jewish wars, there wasn't exactly a lot of death and chaos on our side, only waste of supplies.
Should it remained at this level of jewishness, it would have been tolerable, but I'm not going to sacrifice my on body and morals for medical experiments.
Now, even if I was able to remain in, I don't know how long it'd be before they pushed their tricks again, forcing me into another battle. My level of confidence in lasting another 10 years without job-threatening difficulties isn't high.
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 11 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:03:14 ago (+11/-0)*
It's better to be homeless then take the clot shot.
If Republicans get in office there may be a better deal down the road, including for the Jan 6th political prisoners.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:35:18 ago (+3/-1)
lol, the law doesn’t exist and hasn’t for 120 years.
And be hanged for insubordination before it ever gets dismissed by a judge (which it will be). He needs to get the fuck out of the ZOG golem military.
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 6 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 16:51:52 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 3 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:02:13 ago (+3/-0)
You want me to update something? Let me just log in real quick. What about those fuel cans that were expired? Don't worry about them. Also, I totally cleaned my rifle, and here's a new (totally not photoshopped) copy of my flightline drivers license.
Oh, btw, I have pain in my shoulder, knee, wrist, lower back, and head. I have tinnitus, and I think I'm loosing my hearing. Also, I need a test for sleep apnea.
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On a side note, I had one guy claim he couldn't get a boner when he separated, and there was nothing they could do prove him wrong.
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:05:45 ago (+0/-0)
If you get attacked by fire ants, they have to send you to the hospital for Benadryl.
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:11:00 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Lordbananafist
[ - ] Lordbananafist 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:15:11 ago (+2/-0)
The ants are our little friends
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:22:52 ago (+1/-0)
In my current position, I'm hardly working to begin with. They're expecting me to be leaving, so there's already backups and alternates on all my programs. My leadership is on my side and I mostly have free rein over my workday, so long as I meet some bare minimum standards.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 18:30:01 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 4 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:32:19 ago (+5/-1)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:47:25 ago (+2/-0)
They can claim the safety of the vax, point to nothing and tell you to eat shit when you ask for verification, and then 40 years later, well after you died, admit to maybe a mistake.
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:59:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 01:12:45 ago (+1/-0)
2. You still believe in the law. lol
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 05:50:04 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] eongoat
[ - ] eongoat 4 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:09:50 ago (+4/-0)
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=628ec0a8c4042
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:11:45 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] eongoat
[ - ] eongoat 4 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:12:48 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:17:48 ago (+1/-0)
Short answer, yes. However, if I higher a civilian lawyer to represent me at my discharge board, he can no longer help, but joining civil lawsuits have no effect on his representation on internal matters.
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 00:41:02 ago (+2/-0)
But you signed away your constitutional rights. Steal a Brrrrrrrt and give us a show.
[ + ] Fourteeneightyeight
[ - ] Fourteeneightyeight 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:36:06 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] WhiteGoat
[ - ] WhiteGoat 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 08:45:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 19:53:58 ago (+2/-0)*
"But the shot IS approved!" they'll counter. Bullshit. The FDA approval was for Pfizer's Comirnaty shot, which has never been made available. The only one they have available is BioNTech, which is not approved.
"They're the same thing!" they'll try to say. If they're the same thing, then why are they legally distinct, with one being approved and one not? Why is only the unapproved one available?
If the Pfizer shot was truly approved and available, that would have immediately ended the EUA for every other shot, as the stipulation is that "no approved alternative is available."
"Then you'll get Moderna, which IS approved!" they'll try to corner you with. If Moderna is approved, why have J&J and Astra-Zenica not had their EUA's revoked? Again, the EUA requires that there be "no approved alternative available." If Comirnaty has never been made available, and J&J/AZ have not had their EUA revoked, then logically Moderna can't actually be approved, or if it is, then the specific formulation is, again, not available.
Also, have a look at this - https://www.westernjournal.com/us-officer-risked-refusing-pentagon-vaccine-order-navy-board-unanimously-confirmed-right-thing/
Different branch, but could try to use it as precedent.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:32:22 ago (+0/-0)
This was never about health and never will be.
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 18:32:25 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Rob3122
[ - ] Rob3122 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:01:39 ago (+2/-0)
Problem solved
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:09:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Rob3122
[ - ] Rob3122 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:32:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:43:50 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:38:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 23:26:42 ago (+0/-0)
It doesnt really look like it sounds.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 05:19:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:00:55 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:08:43 ago (+2/-0)
During covid, they had me working the quarantine hotel for the pilots. I'd tell them don't get locked out, and there's a pizza hut just down the street attached to a gas station. Things are far more effective if you have like minded people on the inside.
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:26:51 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 16:43:19 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 04:20:11 ago (+1/-0)
Make it clear that giving you an honorable discharge with full pay and the full pension that you would have received if you were not discharged is the easy way out. If they give you that, you'll stop fighting. And this will not come back at them (not back at the Air Force) but back at them as individuals.
For the rest of their careers the Air Force will need someone to blame for every vaccine injury, miscarriage, blood clot, heart attack, death. It's all going to fall on them as individuals. The rest of their careers are going to be hell. Someone will have to take the blame.
But.... full pay, full pension as if you were never discharged, along with an honorable discharge - And they'll never hear for you again.
They want to fight you on this? Well, you've fought this much for this long, you'll keep going. The only difference is that after your discharge, you'll have nothing to lose. Or they can give you everything you ask for, and you'll walk off into the sunset and they never see you again.
What will they choose? They'll choose the easy way out. The one where they as individuals don't have to deal with it.
They're scared. The vaccine injuries, heart attacks, miscarriages, deaths - It's never going to end. - Give them a way out.
[ + ] KeepPoal4fags
[ - ] KeepPoal4fags 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 01:21:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 01:05:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 00:56:24 ago (+1/-0)
Under no circumstances get the shot. You will be disabled the rest of your life at the minimum, which will be about 1-3 years.
[ + ] Native
[ - ] Native 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 00:27:37 ago (+1/-0)
Then Ignore it.
Force them to let you go. They are trying to force you to quit without the paperwork. Force them to do the paperwork
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 00:23:00 ago (+1/-0)
Good, the religious exemption is breaking the shield wall and cowardice.
[ + ] Cunt
[ - ] Cunt 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 08:10:10 ago (+0/-0)
Easy for you to say since I'm pretty sure Jugears didn't give you the option.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 14:21:53 ago (+0/-0)
Just tell your employer no.
It was very easy for me to say, I lost my job and was nearly homeless, but at least im not a dickless, low T, soy faggot.
If more people stood up and weren't all yes men clamoring for favour from daddy government, and their slime ball boss being a wage slave 24/7, then maybe we would have a better country. But alas most people around me are spineless, mulato, queers and coalburners these days so it's too much to ask I guess.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 19:21:14 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 19:03:37 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] gaybeeye
[ - ] gaybeeye 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 19:40:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 18:10:28 ago (+1/-0)
Or be a man and force them to force you out.
As a fellow former Chair Force member I can tell you it's not worth it to fight those stupid niggers.
Fool them or cut your loses and go into business for yourself.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:36:55 ago (+0/-0)
Witnessed this in real time.
Guy was called up in front of the commander for DUI while he was on leave.
Was found passed out drunk and high off meth in his car under a bridge in LA somewhere.
During the course of the commander basically telling the guy his punishment he jumps on the commanders desk flips him the California hello turns around and moons the guy.
Fuckin legend. They marched the guy right off the base said don't come back. Still don't know what happened to the guy after that.
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 17:06:19 ago (+1/-0)
(1) Past evaluations.
(2) Are you recommended for Reenlistment.
I wish you the best of luck!
[ + ] BitterVeteran
[ - ] BitterVeteran 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 10:35:53 ago (+0/-0)
It's rigged. How can you not know this?
[ + ] Cunt
[ - ] Cunt 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 08:22:58 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 05:17:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ScheduledSuicide
[ - ] ScheduledSuicide 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 27, 2022 01:26:38 ago (+0/-0)
This is tyranny.
And, consider this: You ain't getting the retirement shekel EITHER way.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:27:01 ago (+0/-0)
That should give you sometime before all the medical malfeasance cases start to expose the jew lie.
Then get a federal job and do reserves.
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:10:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:52:55 ago (+0/-0)
Helping people kill the enemy will be the new mad max reality
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:19:51 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.fortheclaimofthelife.com/
If you don't understand it fully, join the club.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:00:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 19:39:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] uvulectomy
[ - ] uvulectomy 3 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 20:08:42 ago (+3/-0)
Doesn't seem like he has any desire to stay in, but wants to make sure they don't get to kike out of what they owe him.
[ + ] MayhemInChief
[ - ] MayhemInChief [op] 2 points 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 21:27:29 ago (+2/-0)
When I learned about the jew several years ago, I decided to remain in for the 20 years. Although we were "fighting" jewish wars, there wasn't exactly a lot of death and chaos on our side, only waste of supplies.
Should it remained at this level of jewishness, it would have been tolerable, but I'm not going to sacrifice my on body and morals for medical experiments.
Now, even if I was able to remain in, I don't know how long it'd be before they pushed their tricks again, forcing me into another battle. My level of confidence in lasting another 10 years without job-threatening difficulties isn't high.
[ + ] Clubberlang
[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 2.0 yearsMay 26, 2022 22:41:56 ago (+1/-0)