US military's new front line cartridge for the new M-5 (6.8x51) compared to the 5.45 and 5.8 - Upgoat

US military's new front line cartridge for the new M-5 (6.8x51) compared to the 5.45 and 5.8
submitted by Boardallday3 to Guns 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 17:41:54 ago (+9/-0) (files.catbox.moe)
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[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 3 yearsMay 7, 2022 06:00:28 ago (+0/-0)

Given this will kill just as effectively as the standard round. But I imagine this new round is going to be a fair amount heavier, so isn't this just going to decrease combat effectiveness

[ - ] spasswerk 3 points 3 yearsMay 7, 2022 00:24:13 ago (+3/-0)

SIG may choose to keep the round proprietary, preventing civilians from chambering it. I think the NWO folks would like to see a separation of military PDWs from those available to civilians.

[ + ] bites_you

[ - ] bites_you 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 10, 2022 11:51:17 ago (+0/-0)

reading about mil-spec stuff makes me think the same thing. keep citizens racing to catch up

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 23:08:14 ago (+0/-0)

Why come they don't put them in bikini's?

[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 22:25:57 ago (+1/-0)

Murika! Hell yeah!

Morons. It's a money grab but you're too stupid to see it since your "patriotism" blinds you...patriot.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 21:59:03 ago (+0/-0)

That'll makem extra gudded plus

[ - ] wonderfuldonut 1 point 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 20:26:39 ago (+1/-0)

what does it matter, what size round we will use. the commies will be to busy laughing at the green vehicles and free sex change recipients that the current Dementia in Chief wants to unleash

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 20:15:33 ago (+1/-0)

Some good comments here: https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/8402479/6-8x51-new-military-round

tenyearsgone
My thought on the matter is who cares? The latest wiz bang round isn’t going to accomplish anything the other rounds we have don’t. Wonder which retired general got this pushed through.

QMC SW/EXW
Having been in combat, having engaged the enemy with 7.62x51 and seen what it does to said enemy I see NO REASON for this especially when you consider all of the weapon platforms using the 7.62 round. It would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to switch over to a 6.8x51 with no real gain in combat effectiveness.

Just another unnecessary MIC money laundering operation.

[ + ] o0shad0o

[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 3 yearsMay 7, 2022 10:19:55 ago (+0/-0)

6.8 would be significantly lighter to carry around and would have better ballistics, at least at battle-rifle range.

[ + ] FalseRealityCheck

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3 yearsMay 7, 2022 13:36:52 ago (+0/-0)

The ballistic advantages are nominal at best and have not been battle tested. I don't think there will be any real-world ballistic advantage compared to a .308 when it comes down to a firefight. Reduced cartridge weight is beneficial especially when considering a typical LR-308 rifle is heavier than a comparable AR-15, but most of that could be offset be using the same polymer casing or steel/brass combination of the 6.8 with the .308.

Like I wrote previously, this strikes me as just another MIC money laundering operation.

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 19:42:12 ago (+1/-0)

I guess twelve states got absorbed into the bullet to make it bigger.

[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 18:54:10 ago (+0/-0)

I have an AR set up as a hunting rifle, chambered in 6.8 SPC. This is an older cartridge that appears to be a bit shorter than the 6.8x51 but I think is loaded for higher pressure and a similar velocity. A quick net search didn't come up with any direct comparisons but I'd be interested if anyone's seen any.

[ - ] RecycledElectrons 0 points 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 18:22:42 ago (+0/-0)

That's a lot of hassle compared to a K&M Arms M17 in .308 with a better cooling system.

[ + ] Spaceman84

[ - ] Spaceman84 0 points 3 yearsMay 6, 2022 18:40:41 ago (+0/-0)

The same was said about many proven battle rifles when they were new. I love .308 but this looks good too. How much ammunition you can carry is a decisive factor.

[ + ] canbot

[ - ] canbot 2 points 3 yearsMay 7, 2022 01:13:09 ago (+2/-0)

Robot dogs should carry the ammo.

[ + ] Spaceman84

[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 3 yearsMay 8, 2022 05:30:48 ago (+1/-0)

But who will carry the batteries for the robodogs?

[ + ] canbot

[ - ] canbot 1 point 3 yearsMay 9, 2022 16:36:08 ago (+1/-0)

Robotic generators on stilts.

[ + ] bites_you

[ - ] bites_you 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 10, 2022 11:52:44 ago (+0/-0)

actually that would be pretty cool. those dogs might be cool when they get to be more affordable