submitted by paul_neri to Military 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 06:10:49 ago (+4/-4) (www.news.com.au)
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russiaukraine-conflict-ukraines-mad-max-style-buggies-used-to-destroy-russian-tanks-and-planes/news-story/8bec2c06cbdece1e5c8271c0f77e28be
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 7 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:04:07 ago (+7/-0)
Anyone who believes this is fucking retarded.
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri [op] 0 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:07:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 4 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:29:09 ago (+4/-0)
Do you think we are sanctioning Russia? Or, is it more likely, given that Russia and China have booming economies while ours is shrinking, that Russia has simply cut us off?
And, what would be the US response if Russia or China was funneling $45 Billion worth of military aid into Mexico? And given that the US is sending weapons to Ukraine, what do you expect the result will be when Russia violently responds to that act of war?
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 09:32:46 ago (+2/-0)
"Economies" as they are viewed by the west (really fucked up and convoluted economies) are not always correct. What does some country care about the cost of iron on the markets if they do not export or import the good? Your "GDP" could be super-duper low because you aren't trading, and it doesn't actually mean anything. They could be increasing production (and likely are) and none of these metrics would change at all.
I agree with you fully, i'm just clarifying some points, and reiterating that op should know not to trust anything he sees from the media.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:25:21 ago (+0/-1)
cope
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:32:36 ago (+2/-0)
For example
3200 "vehicles" in the link. The article claims over 4000. That's a 20% miss.
And that's assuming that all these photos are actually what they claim.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:34:03 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:36:03 ago (+2/-0)
And where is the documentation for the 23000 dead soldiers? Lemme guess portable incinerators, right?
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:51:32 ago (+0/-2)
It's basically all BTG formations, do the math based on the estimated vehicles losses, add in a few suicide airdrops to Hostomel and other retarded moves like urban combat in Mariupol.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:38:15 ago (+2/-0)*
Military history, SCW, OSINT, space, electric cars. NATO/EU supporter. Bellingcat and Oryx Blog contributor
Bellingcat, aka known fucking liars. You can't even trust that those are actual photos of what they claim to be. They have been caught, several times, faking photographic evidence.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 07:53:53 ago (+0/-2)*
lol as if anyone will take your word for it when you can't even research something this basic before calling it retarded
you're just throwing out accusations cause you lost the argument, that is not even a jewish name 🤣
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 08:03:55 ago (+1/-0)
They posted photographic evidence that Russia shot down that passenger jet a while back. Later shown that Ukraine shot it down by mistake.
Bellingcat posted photographic evidence that Assad gassed his own people. The UN later showed the evidence was staged.
Bellingcat is in the UK and they post pictures of shit and make bullshit claims about what the pictures are. Just like the fake holocaust photos. Bellingcat is not a reliable source of information, even if they have pics.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 08:09:36 ago (+0/-0)
Russians bragged about shooting down a plane before they realized it's the MH17 and deleted their shit, that's how I know your entire comment is garbage, all made up.
cope more
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 09:16:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 08:59:05 ago (+0/-0)
And, I noticed you didn't answer my questions. Why would Ukraine need $33b from the US alone if they were so successful? And, how is Russia able to accomplish every single one of their stated goals if the damage inflicted by Ukraine is as Bellingcat suggested?
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 23:45:58 ago (+0/-0)
they did, read the intelligence reports
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 09:04:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3 yearsMay 3, 2022 17:06:58 ago (+0/-0)
muh other side of the border doesn't change the fact Russia took credit and then changed up their story multiple times
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 2 points 3 yearsMay 2, 2022 09:32:35 ago (+2/-0)
First sentence. Bias much?