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Genetic study shows modern Italians did not found Rome, and that Jews and Arabs invaded Rome until the Germanic conquering

submitted by BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod to History 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 07:14:03 ago (+40/-1)     (History)

https://survivethejive.blogspot.com/2019/11/ancient-roman-dna.html

Europeans found the Roman Republic. After Augustus, European genetics seem to massively disappear (in Italy only) in place of Arabs (probably whitish like Assad, not brown) and Jews, feeding off the success. The europeans clearly move north where there's less subhumans. This eventually engenders the crisis of the third century when Roman emperors moved their capital north to northern italy then france (and even before officially changing the capital they had ceased living in Rome for a while). So even the capital had to move to the whiter areas where it was nicer cause the subhumans were ruining Rome and southern italy, exact same phenomenon as today where our capitals are becoming overrun. Of course no historian will admit this basic reason and will try to concoct anything else.

With the crisis of the third century ruining the success of the empire, around 300, the arab vultures fuck off completely. After this there's some recovery. The jews remain until the empire collapses, then run away. Unfortunately, whilst the Germans conquer the place (then lose it, then reconquer), they only rule and don't replace the now dominant commoners of mediterranean stock, probably cause of christian monogamy.


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[ - ] Broc_Liath 7 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 08:41:35 ago (+7/-0)

"Modern Italians" is a broad brush. I'd fully believe sicilians bore little relation since they were semetic even in Roman republican times, but the etruscans and tyroleans are still predominantly celtic, germanic and italic. Unsurprisingly tuscany and tyrol are some of the most economically productive parts of italy and have been angling for independence for a long time.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 9 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 09:04:27 ago (+9/-0)

Genetically, Sicilians are extremely removed from the rest of Italy.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 10:23:01 ago (+1/-1)

I’m of Sicilian decent and have blue eyes, light brown hair and fair skin.

[ - ] _Obrez 4 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:17:00 ago (+4/-0)

Genetic ties to carthage maybe.

Modern science probably gets hung up on carthage being white/semitic/african. Carthage was a colony of Phoenicia. That solves semitic origins, but it's quite likely they relied on european genetics by a certain point in its final generations brown diversity probably fucked carthage, and then they likely had most of their population flee to italy after its destruction, sicily was previously carthaginian land.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:27:47 ago (+1/-0)

Obviously it depends on the individual. There were also greeks and italians settling sicily.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:10:44 ago (+0/-0)

I knew a family of Sicilians like this. Very blond with light eyes. I assume its from Viking/Norman conquests. Isn’t there a blond side of the island?

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:28:23 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah the region where the capital(Palermo) is has lighter features.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 08:07:00 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:47:30 ago (+0/-0)

I wouldn’t say extremely.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 08:07:24 ago (+1/-0)

They’re in the jew subspecies bubble, rather than the white subspecies bubble.

https://i.postimg.cc/mLXxzzT4/PCA-Caucasoid.png

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 09:43:29 ago (+1/-0)

How do you make a jew? Do you take and Italian from Rome and sprinkle in a bit of palestinian? Because that person would also be in the “jewish bubble”. Yet you won’t get an editor for the NY Times that way. Jews and specifically AJs had a unique selection process for “jewish skills” in the last few thousand years that sicilians did not undergo.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 2 yearsApr 27, 2022 00:38:41 ago (+0/-0)

Yet you won’t get an editor for the NY Times that way.

I like this characterization.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 08:37:03 ago (+0/-0)

I rather be called a nigger than a jew. I guess to really know for sure I would have to do a dna test, but I am a little skeptical of the mainstream ones. Anyone know of a legit dna test I can take?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 09:32:04 ago (+1/-0)

You shouldn’t take those DNA tests. The government accesses that DNA to track people and their relatives.

Sicilians are an intermediate population between southern europeans and middle easterners. So are jews, maltese, and cypriots. They occupy the same area on the PCA plot because they have similar admixture of ancient races like WHG, EEF, CHG, Natufian, ANE. But its important to understand that that did not occur because sicilians and jews had a recent common ancestor.

Jews underwent a unique selection process living as itinerant bureaucrats, merchants and bankers among various populations in the ME, caucasus and europe. They were selected for traits that sicilians were never selected for.

Sicilians may have a reputation for violence and corruption. That is probably because of recent moorish invasions or maybe earlier ME incursions. Muslims are polygamists and polygamy selects for traits like violence and corruption. But Sicilians are not the same as jews otherwise we would be talking about sicilian bankers, or. Joe biden’s sicilian cabinet members. Jews, particularly ashkhenazi / sephardi jews are a new race. What is different about them cannot be seen on this chart, although it is genetic. Ya fuckin dago.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 1 point 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 10:23:55 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah I’ve always felt that way about those dna tests too, very fugazi. This is what I thought of when reading the end of your comment. Lol
https://files.catbox.moe/o8omn5.jpeg
And
https://files.catbox.moe/hepdx0.png

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:52:01 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:44:38 ago (+1/-1)*

Im not sure I would use semitic, but I would say they have a genetic component that is consistent with the levant/fertile crescent.
From this pic you can see that sicily is halfway between levant populations and southern europe, and clusters close to several jewish sub-populations, cypriots and maltese. I think this is because the have similar admixtures of much older populations and not because cypriots, sicilians and jews all had a recent common ancestor. But it appears that there was some migration to sicily from the middle east, perhaps from the period of phoenecian/carthaginian expansion (i.e. Semitic):

https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Wang-2018-Caucasus-admixture.jpg

This is an earlier post garrett made about north and south italians being distinct
https://www.talk.lol/viewpost?postid=625520439f719

[ - ] boekanier 5 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 09:46:13 ago (+5/-0)

history is being violated, always, everywhere.

[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 18:19:22 ago (+2/-0)

Change the Future - change the Past ...

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 4 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 08:02:09 ago (+4/-0)*

The Vikings conquered Sicily and southern Italy after the moors. And doesn’t surprise me jews always subvert, they are doing it currently with America and Europe. Import those niggers, diversity is our strength?

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 4 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 08:06:37 ago (+4/-0)

what's your point lad? goths conquered italy (but didn't displace the locals too much). Justinian (mediterraneans) reconquered. Lombards conquered. Moors had a brief spell in southern italy, but the genetic detail shown for that period is a large time span from 700 to 1800, so their brief escapade doesn't even show up.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 08:07:56 ago (+1/-0)

Sorry edited my original post.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:14:13 ago (+1/-0)

goths conquered italy (but didn't displace the locals too much).
Lessons learned: More raping next time.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:44:06 ago (+0/-0)

More raping next time.

That's not the proper way to displace. A more effective method is genocide.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:04:26 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah I agree. But what about in-vitro embryo implantation? Huh? Cmon.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:53:00 ago (+0/-0)

You're saying we should take a White embryo from a White womb and implant it into a subhuman?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:06:16 ago (+0/-0)

Not a transplant, but an implant.
And define subhuman. Like a Sicilian might be okay.
Im not saying we should. Just something to kick around.

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:29:53 ago (+0/-0)

Sicilians are not ok

Catholics need gassing

Niggers need to be eliminated before they can ever exist

[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:38:03 ago (+0/-0)

We could remove the native inhabitants to some other land we don't care about, and rape them once they're off the land. It'll improve the stock without being an issue for us.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:49:24 ago (+0/-0)

Why so rapy; you got some nigger in ya?

[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:50:44 ago (+0/-0)

I'm pretty sure niggers love being raped, jews too. I just want to help them live their best life.

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:54:02 ago (+1/-0)

Maybe the best life for them is one that never happens or is terminated prematurely.

[ - ] I_am_baal 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:54:34 ago (+0/-0)

perhaps indeed

[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 2 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:42:19 ago (+2/-0)

we wuz pissa makkas and sheet

[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:00:06 ago (+1/-1)

Sicilians were spawned by niggers

Catholics are enemies of the world

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:05:58 ago (+2/-0)

* RACE TRAITOR ALERT RACE TRAITOR ALERT RACE TRAITOR ALERT*

this poster above has previously admitted he hates catholics more than jews. he is a race traitor.

[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:14:49 ago (+0/-1)

If you are anti abortion you are a nigger lover

Nigger lovers like the above poster are enemies of america

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:31:45 ago (+1/-0)

i'm not anti abortion, race traitor.

[ - ] diggernicks -1 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 16:44:36 ago (+1/-2)

I fucked your mother

[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:42:38 ago (+0/-0)

So if the history of the White people is creating a seemingly Utopian society and then letting it degenerate to shit, what has to change to prevent this from ever occurring in the future?

I mean, should I vote harder; become a more subservient christian; keep hoping for the Rapture; what?

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 3 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:48:44 ago (+3/-0)

a racial doctrine like Hitler attempted

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 24, 2022 00:54:31 ago (+0/-0)

Short answer eugenics. But its not enough to just breed for blond hair and blue eyes. Its not enough to breed for high IQ. There are certain traits like honesty and high productivity that europeans, particularly northern europeans, have in higher quantities. If we can understand the selection process which favored those traits we can replicate it and increase these traits.
Basically we want to breed for high in-group cooperativity and reduce in-group competition. We can do this through enforced monogamy and limiting wealth disparity within the group (i.e. No billionaires). We also have to improve efficiency and this comes easily enough through toughening the morals. Strict morals (as long as they are egalitarian don’t favor elites) lead to economic efficiency and prevent corruption. Corruption is basically a genetic condition. People are born to be honest or opportunistic, and poor enforcement of morals lets opportunistic individuals thrive. For instance we made jews tolerable when we allowed them to practice usury.
TLDR eugenics. You have to understand the evolutionary mechanisms that promote opportunistic individuals in a society and avoid them to keep your genetic population honest. Especially important is policing your elites. They can become as destructive and criminal as any common street killer— worse.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 09:23:50 ago (+4/-4)

To think I used to make just these exact same posts not a few months ago and got blasted with negative downvotes, even showing etymological proof, historical proof, genetic proof, but christcucks are gonna christcuck against all available facts.

Southern Italians are Yids.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:47:32 ago (+1/-1)

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[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 24, 2022 00:13:58 ago (+1/-0)

Its not a random website, its multiple sources that corroborate each other that have been vetted.

The change in genetic makeup makes all the difference. If a White race gets mudflooded and becomes 30-50% nigger, they are no longer white.

Eat a black dick like your ancestors did.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:12:00 ago (+0/-0)

middle eastern = yid

No.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 24, 2022 00:10:35 ago (+1/-0)

A yid/kike/heeb/semite.

It has been proven that southern Italians have a high admixture of M.E. genetics.

Are you right about anything these days?

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] -3 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 09:45:57 ago (+3/-6)

I have forced the Christcucks on here to submit, as they so crave to do. They fear me. Hell is an abstract concept, but being owned by me is very real.

Fortunately for them, white nationalist non-believers are willing to accept christians, so long as they accept racial realities, whereas christian movements don't welcome us so much. We are the benevolent ones and the needed leaders of a larger movement encompassing the whole white race. If the movement is led by christians, it will always be too restrictive and fail. They have to accept this.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:46:56 ago (+0/-0)

Oh gimme a break.

[ - ] account deleted by user -2 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:43:48 ago (+0/-2)

account deleted by user

[ - ] oppressed -3 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:33:08 ago (+2/-5)

no non-christians are willing to accept you. the whole world rejects white nationalism. plus you're heading to the lake of fire all because of "muh naziism"

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 13:45:41 ago (+2/-0)

the lake of fire LOL. imagine being this low iq

[ - ] deleted -3 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:43:00 ago (+0/-3)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:12:22 ago (+0/-1)

https://web.stanford.edu/group/pritchardlab/publications/Antonio19.pdf

^Here is the actual study if anyone want to look at it. Nice post. I was not sure when this ME influx happened to Italy but now I know, imperial Rome. When you get successful, opportunists want to invade and live off your success.

The earliest settlers are western hunter gatherers, followed by “anatolians” in the neolithic and copper age, and then a distinct shift toward people of steppe ancestry during the iron age.

Im guessing Rome gets a little whiter in the middle ages because of christian immigration from europe.