You know what else stupid people do? Attempt to make others conform to their beliefs, or lack thereof. Stupid people think they can change someone's mind by labeling them. If you think everything that happens to you in life is pure chance, then personally I feel sorry for you. The difference between you and I is that I would not come into a post about atheism and start badmouthing and shitposting the non-believers.
[ - ] Centaurus 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 17:16:21 ago (+1/-0)
Okay, so if we are in a simulation, why do you care if I believe in a higher power? If you wish to believe the 'higher powers' are the technicians and AI (or maybe just pure AI), then so be it. Save your vitriol for the jew dick sucking Christians. I don't think many of those types hang out here. Just sayin'
If religion was about mental slavery, why would the Bible lay out, in writing, God's law that directly opposes mind slavery and then command that its followers obey God rather than man?
There's a fine to walk in the New Testament. For a chunk of Christians, it means rolling over and letting other groups walk over you by turning the other cheek.
The problem isn't in the interpretation. The problem is that they are lazy and rely on a "church" to tell them what selected verses mean.
The Bible is extremely consistent if you take the time to read the words, yourself. If you rely on others to do the reading, they can strip the context and you'd never know it.
Problem is, imo, "christcuck" seems to have two, at least, meanings and one doesn't seem too offensive to me:
"A ‘Christcuck’, is a man who has been cuckolded by the Christian religion and is weak in a way that causes others to suffer."
" 'Christcuck' (Internet slang, vulgar, derogatory) An overzealous Christian.".
I suspect users of the term on this site mean it in the second sense. My reason for saying this is that in my experience the people on this site are generally polite and well intentioned. So...maybe what we have here is simply a communication issue?
That's what I mean when I say it. The "welcome refugees", niggers and whites are equal b/c God, shekels 4 Israel, millenialist, giving money to a guy who flies around in a private jet cucks of the world.
Christianity was not a conscious plot by the jews to get back at the Romans for conquering Judea. Jews were always dispersed, since well before the Roman conquest. Its like saying you dispersed the gypsies. Jews always disperse. Its their thing. Jews always invent ideologies to manipulate and live off of non-jews. They are antagonistic to any moral regime they do not control. You quote is tantamount to saying “Water decided to be wet” .
I mean it in the first sense. Users on this site recognise how poisonous and false the holocaust narrative is, the old testament is exactly the same thing, just older. It's a bunch of jewish persecution myths and stories supposed to reaffirm their natural narcissistic belief that only they matter and other human being are chattel to be disposed of as they please.
Christianity takes a foreign racial supremacy document and places it at the center of our culture. It occupies the same place that we used to fill with stories about the greatness of our ancestors and gods. Instead of learning pride in our own culture and heritage we're learning to be in awe of jews.
That is cuckholdry.
I know there's going to be a billion comments about how "synagogue of satan" was really referring to the jews, not the "false jews," or how whites are really hebrews and crap like that, but as far as I'm concerned it's all a massive cope.
I don't say any of this to be mean, I say it because it's the truth. Christianity has been an achilles heel for europeans for centuries and the sooner we return to our native religions that our ancestors spent thousands of years adapting to our culture and perspective on the world the better.
This does not mean abandoning god. God still exists. It also doesn't mean abandoning your morals or ethics or natural law, those still exist too. Neoplatonism and other late classical philosophical movements are the bedrock european christianity was built on.
No. Whites were civilised and successful long before christianity came around. If anything the roman/christian meme held us back and caused a colossal dark age. We're still hanging on to the official ideology of the iron-age USSR and pretending it was a golden era.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:42:54 ago (+1/-0)
I don't think anybody is denying that humanity couldn't develop high civilization without Christianity. The Chaldeans had done it. Assyria. Egypt. Greece.
The actual argument is that there was no Europe at that point. Too many people at this site seem to retroproject the notion of Europe far too deeply into the past. The Greco-Roman culture and ethos is truly Greco-Egyptian. Outside of the Roman empire were disunified tribes and clusters of barbarians.
Christianity was undeniably pivotal in creating Europe as we understand it, as a whole that we could meaningfully talk about. Talk of Europe without Christianity is meaningless.
When I say "Europe" I mean the corpus of the European people, not necessarily any kind of political union. I don't think such a union should exist, political structures on that scale inevitably become corrupt and kiked.
The Roman Empire, US federal government and EU are all good examples of what we need to avoid.
Christianity was undeniably pivotal in creating Europe as we understand it, as a whole that we could meaningfully talk about. Talk of Europe without Christianity is meaningless.
Somewhat. Christianity created a concept of Christendom, which was mostly but not entirely European. For example it included the levant, ethiopia, egypt and north africa.
The concept of a European people as an ethnic group mostly came in the 19th century as a product of romantic nationalism and early anthropology/linguistics. Even then it wasn't really confirmed to be a real thing until the early 20th century.
I believe I mean the same. I'm referring to a set of nations within a unifying state of Christendom, not necessarily an economic union in the sense of the EU.
I agree with your dating in the second half of the post. My comment referenced this more vaguely, when I said that people retroproject a concept called 'Europe' into the past. I agree that this is almost certainly a product of romanticism in the late 18th and first half of the 19the centuries. We needed grand theories like 'recapitulation' in order to start tying race scientifically to land, histories and collective experiences - it's where we began to develop the early seeds of a scientific and collective ethnic phylogeny. I'm thinking now of things like 'race memory' in the literature, things picked up by Nietzsche.
I'm not arguing that every phase of Christendom was assimilable to some light-switch moment that holistically united Europe in a self-conscious way. That's poetry, if you will, but important cultural poetry, the kind that behooves us to revive it today. However, Christendom in Europe was essential to forming the relationships that would make it reasonable to view her romantically in the centuries to come; artistically, morally, theologically and intellectually, and architecturally. Hell, even militarily (see below).
On the subject of Christendom itself becoming more Eurocentric (not that this was a self-conscious movement by the peoples of Europe; rather, this is our term), Christendom did flow into multiple continents by way of Roman networks, but we cannot forget that in the course of history (marking the end of late antiquity really) we have Islam. We can't escape the Crusade's role in creating a European concept. The equation of Catholicism with the classical Roman empire stopped in the middle ages. It's not that there were not important Catholic centers that remained in the regions you mentioned, but Christendom became much more tightly bound continentally as it was pushed out by the Muslims from North Africa, Persia, the near east and most of Anatolia.
I agree that christianity was mostly a european thing in that period, but that's a coincidence, not because it has an innately european character. The moment europeans began to gain influence in the rest of the world christianity started going global again. Ultimately it's just not an ethnocentric movement, it's a globalist one.
Christianity relates to Europe in the same way that marxism relates to Russia. Marxists are happy to use Russian nationalism to their advantage to defend the meme and help spread it, but ultimately they have no real loyalty to the Russian people and they'd happily replace them or turn on them when convenient.
Similarly christianity is happy to use Europeans as human shields when a competing meme like islam threatens to take over, but ultimately the goal isn't preserving European culture, it's spreading christianity. If importing a bunch of Philipinos into a European country means more christianity then they'll do it.
The Nordic Bronze Age was the wealthiest civilization of their time. The only reason you never hear about it is because the Germanic peoples weren't bureaucratic. So, they never built a civilization around bureaucracy. Read the classic sources written about the Germanic peoples. The Germans weren't just some cave men. They had the highest quality bronze due to their trade routes.
In all honesty the enlightenment was a double edged sword. I think the romantic movement had a lot of potential, it was responsible for a resurgence in european nationalism, but the enlightenment itself probably deepened kikery on balance.
The road of Truth is always double-edged. Thus it has ever been since Adam and Eve partook of the Tree of Knowledge. One's metal is not tested unless they are in battle. One's character is not determined unless they are tempted by evil and prevail over it. This is the path to godhood.
The enlightenment destabilised institutions of power controlled mostly by europeans and allowed jewish controlled institutions (like finance and publishing) to take more power. Generally speaking, whenever a society goes through a massive reformation it's a very vulnerable time, like a crustacean moulting. Whoever is able to control the process can potentially mould society to their will before it hardens again.
The renaissance led directly into the enlightenment.
The dark ages are a myth, in reality progress stalled due to the collapse of rome, teritorial conlficta that followed and primarily trade being choked by the loss of naval supremacy in the mediteranean to muslims and the silkroad falling into Muslim hands that and reccuring plagues the "dark ages" are the period in which europe deromanized but also depaganized in pursuit of this collective purpose and faith eventually bigger nations could be formed and achieve stable economics and sustainable trade relations. Which led to international scientific development and a common set of morals across europe unified the educated.
Racial equality in Christendom is a lie, God divided and set apart the races of men Himself. He demands racial separation lest we relive the tower of babel.
That said Roman Catholicism was flawed and deeply corrupt as it inherited Rome's corruptions the orthodoxy and early protestantism were vital.
"Traitor" implies a level of conscious decisionmaking I don't think is present here. These aren't people going out of their way to adopt a foreign religion, they're just going along with what they grew up with. I don't fault them for that, conservatism has it's place, I just wish they'd be more open to being critical of it.
Which makes it even worse. They claim to follow Jesus, but have no understanding of what he is teaching. They think following arbitrary rules made up by somebody else, and being a "good person" — as defined by somebody else — ensures them a golden ticket into Heaven. Consequently, they are actually promoting evil.
...whoever has shall be given more and more, while whoever has nothing, even what he has will be taken away from him.
How lucky your eyes are to see and your ears are to hear! Because believe me, many prophets and upright people longed to see what you are seeing and never saw it, and longed to hear what you are hearing and never heard it.
You know what. I think I'm going to challenge myself. I'm going to reread the new testament and the gospel of thomas along with any other contemporary resources I can find.
I haven't seen anything so far to contradict my current position but who knows, maybe I'm missing something. Either way getting a clearer picture coudln't hurt.
I have been rereading the New Testament of late, but not in any kind of order. A certain passage may come to my mind or a particular notion. I then do more intensive research online, in a 100+ year old Bible I inherited from my maternal grandmother, and in particular using The Unvarnished New Testament by Any Gaus.
I find the Andy Gaus book of particular interest because it hasn't been jewed up like other translations. Of course, I realize "this is the work of the Devil" because it doesn't conform to most mindless christcuck's (now I'm on the list) notions of what Jesus taught.
Unbeknown to most, the oldest publicly known version of the New Testament is written in Greek. Thus if you want an 'unvarnished', or pure version of the book you need to either understand Greek or get somebody to translate. I can't read Greek and was informed that Andy Gaus is an excellent translator.
I have also been studying the Gnostic texts and concepts (The Gospel of Thomas and The Gospel of Judas are good works) because I think the main teaching of The Christ is that one has to 'come to "God"' on their own path, by their own methods, and by a genuine knowing of self. By Gnosis if you will.
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you. *First seek the Kingdom of Heaven and all things will be given to you."
Yeah, I've been interested in the gospel of thomas for a while. First I've heard about Judas.
I'm also open to the possibility that Jesus didn't exist, or at least not as described, and he was something of a literary fiction used by helenised jewish neoplatonists.
I'm also open to the possibility that Jesus didn't exist, or at least not as described...
You do have an open mind. It's fairly certain that Jesus didn't exist as we are led to believe. People are generally shocked or angered when I tell them this, but I always leave them with this idea: Whatever Jesus's message was it made people encountering it abandon everything they knew.
Whatever the message, it was so powerful that it was undermining the Roman Empire to such an extent that it became necessary for the jews, through Constantine, to codify it into a controlled religious institution now known as the Catholic Church. Moreover, all those claiming to be followers of Christ, but not conforming to the new official religion were systematically hunted down and murdered.
Imagine what you would have to experience to make you completely abandon your life as you now know it.
Imagine what you would have to experience to make you completely abandon your life as you now know it.
I don't think that's too hard to imagine. I live in a very globohomo country, I want out.
People living in the empire were experiencing similar conditions. Multiculturalism, hyperinflation, plagues, food shortages, obnoxious authoritarianism, predatory lenders, centralised compulsory blasphemy etc.
It makes complete sense for transcendental cults to start popping up under those circumstances. "Life as they knew it," didn't hold much attraction.
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:00:05 ago (+2/-1)
“root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches,” describing them as “the evil that is gnawing our vitals.” ~ Hitler
“I can’t at present give them the answer they’ve been asking for,” Hitler said. “The time will come when I’ll settle my account with them. They’ll hear from me all right.” ~ Hitler
Hitler would sort out the spiritual jews rights after he found a solution to permanently remove the genetic jews.
Christianity was foundational to Europe. The concept of Europe, expressed here at Voat in the routine videos featuring montages of beautiful architecture and art, cannot be decoupled from Christian Europe. It's funny: Notre Dame burns, and people are shouting about attacks on European Christian culture, but later on, it's 'Christianity ruined Europe!'
I wonder, where are the 1,000-yr old remnants of a high pagan civilizations other than in southern Europe and the Mediterranean? The only relevant pagan civilizations to later European culture were the Greeks and Romans, and Catholicism assimilated all that was good from these (other than being a little too light on its reliance on Plato).
The Christ concept is important to Neoplatonic Christianity. Crucial.
I think our strategy should not be to do away with Christianity, but to teach people about Judaism. The problem here, among Christians in the west, is very poor understanding of what Judaism is. A Christian need not - and should not - equate chosen people with today's so-called Jews, especially the eastern European variety.
I have yet to be given a solid argument that Christianity essentially contains worship/praise of people who could be identified with modern Jewry.
Christianity was foundational to Europe. The concept of Europe, expressed here at Voat in the routine videos featuring montages of beautiful architecture and art, cannot be decoupled from Christian Europe.
False. We were producing amazing art and architecture before christianity. I see no reason we wouldn't have continued without it.
It's funny: Notre Dame burns, and people are shouting about attacks on European Christian culture, but later on, it's 'Christianity ruined Europe!'
I can't speak for anyone else. Personally I'm sad that incredible european accomplishments are being torn down or upstaged, even if they were originally created in the service of a parasitic culture.
I wonder, where are the 1,000-yr old remnants of a high pagan civilizations other than in southern Europe and the Mediterranean? The only relevant pagan civilizations to later European culture were the Greeks and Romans, and Catholicism assimilated all that was good from these (other than being a little too light on its reliance on Plato).
That's absolutely false, have you never been to a museum? I'm kinda getting the feeling here that your history curriculum didn't cover anything outside of Greece and Rome.
The majority of prechristian buildings are located in Greece and Italy, because those were the centers of stoneworking culture in europe. That doesn't mean other european cultures weren't producing impressive buildings, it means they were doing so in wood.
There's also the question of whether the greatness of a civilisation should be measured in how big their buildings are. If so then the greatest civilisation in history is jewish globalism.
The Christ concept is important to Neoplatonic Christianity. Crucial.
What is neoplatonic christianity? Neoplatonism is already a complete philosophy without christianity, christianity is ontologically downstream.
I think our strategy should not be to do away with Christianity, but to teach people about Judaism. The problem here, among Christians in the west, is very poor understanding of what Judaism is. A Christian need not - and should not - equate chosen people with today's so-called Jews, especially the eastern European variety.
This is where we start having to do handstands to get around the cognative dissonance. What would it take for you to admit that maybe, just maybe, jews were always like this and maybe we shouldn't be taking their book as a religious authority?
Even if that is a false interpretation of the bible though, it's still an interpretation that keeps cropping up again and again, century after century, culture after culture. People read the bible and conclude "oh hey, god loves the jews, it says so in this book they wrote, we should invite them in and see if they want to join our religion."
I see no reason to believe this pattern is going to change. Even if we expel the jews from every european country they'll be back again in a few generations if we keep their book.
I have yet to be given a solid argument that Christianity essentially contains worship/praise of people who could be identified with modern Jewry.
Oh come on, the bible is full of it. The "jews aren't jews" argument is wafer thin.
False. We were producing amazing art and architecture before christianity. I see no reason we wouldn't have continued without it.
I've not seen evidence of this. Are you inferring this from the presence of this art later on? The majority of pagan art I've seen does not even date before the accepted end of classical antiquity. We're talking from the 700s onward. I've seen beautiful Viking art, for example, but again, it's all well after the ancient period had ended. In terms of literature, you don't even have the Eddur until the middle ages. This wouldn't be a problem if these people hadn't had pre-literary culture for thousands of years.
It's typically a bad sign if a population cannot, in the same amount of time as others, develop lasting architecture and writing.
The majority of prechristian buildings are located in Greece and Italy, because those were the centers of stoneworking culture in europe. That doesn't mean other european cultures weren't producing impressive buildings, it means they were doing so in wood. There's also the question of whether the greatness of a civilisation should be measured in how big their buildings are. If so then the greatest civilisation in history is jewish globalism.
I don't deny that European cultures built some beautiful wood structures, but I think your critique here is a little misplaced. I don't require having a bias toward Greco-Roman civilization to point out that most of the world's major civilizations developed stone monuments, especially of ritual centers like temples. Most of the world's advanced civilizations in antiquity transmitted something architectural through time, and that's everywhere in the world. It's also relevant that the most beautiful stone architecture of the gothic period is in the middle ages when Catholicism predominated in France and England. The earliest Gothic was cathedrals! Look at Bayeux.
And the pagans before them could not do what civilizations around the world could?
What is neoplatonic christianity? Neoplatonism is already a complete philosophy without christianity, christianity is ontologically downstream.
Neoplatonic Christianity is just a redundancy. Christianity just is Platonic. It is the consummation of that pagan religion. Your claim that it is downstream is false. Real Neoplatonic thought doesn't even begin until the 3rd century AD! Neoplatonism as a systematic metaphysics doesn't even start until well into the Christian epoch, and it doesn't even reach its zenith in Proclus until almost the sixth century!
These things were going on in parallel and influencing each other. I consider Platonic thought and Christian theology two parts of a parallel revelation. The Neoplatonists approached the study of the dialogues (and Homer and Hesiod) in the same way Aquinas and the scholastics would later approach reading the Bible. It was their religion. I believe both of these things were a form of providence: the Greek revelation was a revelation of reasoning and the Hebraic revelation in Christ was a revelation of faith. These came together to produce something truly new and truly unique, neither the same as the pagan or the Israelite systems prior to it.
Neoplatonism is arguably complete as a freestanding metaphysics. Augustine was probably the best commentator on this. His Confessions will explain it better than I possibly could.
This is where we start having to do handstands to get around the cognative dissonance. What would it take for you to admit that maybe, just maybe, jews were always like this and maybe we shouldn't be taking their book as a religious authority?
It doesn't require handstands at all. It's simple. Christians believe Jewish faith ends at Torah. First, they need to know that it extends to Talmud. After that it extends to Sefer Yetzirah. After that it extends to Sefer Bahir. Afer that it extends to Sefer Ha-Zohar. People mistakenly believe that the Jewish theology of revelation is closed after the Old Testament books of the prophets, but this is factually incorrect. They consider revelation an ongoing and open channel, and the Kabbalistic books are canonical. Rabbinic Judaism is NOT what people think the Israelite religion of the Old Testament is. They are not the same thing. They are categorically different.
That simple realization is all it will take. Today's Jews are not the 'Jews' of the OT. This can be clearly shown by someone with even moderate familiarity with Kabbalah and its history.
I've not seen evidence of this. Are you inferring this from the presence of this art later on? The majority of pagan art I've seen does not even date before the accepted end of classical antiquity. We're talking from the 700s onward. I've seen beautiful Viking art, for example, but again, it's all well after the ancient period had ended.
Norse iron age art was a development of a central european style they inherited from the celts, and ultimately from the scythians. Survive the Jive has a good video on it, although he downplays the celtic connection more than I think he should have:
I was referring more generally to architecture. Surviving spar churches in scandinavia are christian buildings, but they're clearly a continuation of a much older style of building. Similar churches and other buildings exist in russia.
Celtic oppidae were also very impressive for their time, easily comparable with any Roman town.
I don't deny that European cultures built some beautiful wood structures, but I think your critique here is a little misplaced. I don't require having a bias toward Greco-Roman civilization to point out that most of the world's major civilizations developed stone monuments, especially of ritual centers like temples. Most of the world's advanced civilizations in antiquity transmitted something architectural through time, and that's everywhere in the world. It's also relevant that the most beautiful stone architecture of the gothic period is in the middle ages when Catholicism predominated in France and England. The earliest Gothic was cathedrals! Look at Bayeux.
Your reasoning is circular. We think of those civilisations as great because their buildings survived into our period. If that's your metric then great = lived somewhere with more rocks than trees.
If you saw a carpenter crafting an ornately carved door lintel, then you saw a mason carving one, would you immediately say "the mason is better"? Of course you wouldn't. And yet that's exactly how some people approach archeology.
Neoplatonic Christianity is just a redundancy. Christianity just is Platonic. It is the consummation of that pagan religion. Your claim that it is downstream is false. Real Neoplatonic thought doesn't even begin until the 3rd century AD! Neoplatonism as a systematic metaphysics doesn't even start until well into the Christian epoch, and it doesn't even reach its zenith in Proclus until almost the sixth century!
Nope. The fact that neoplatonism rose while christianity existed but had not yet achieved monopoly does not mean that they drew from it. The relationship is entirely the other way around.
Neoplatonism is arguably complete as a freestanding metaphysics. Augustine was probably the best commentator on this. His Confessions will explain it better than I possibly could.
I am well aware that augustine ditched neoplatonism in favour of christianity. I'm also aware that he argued for tolerance of jews. He's one of the prime culprits.
It doesn't require handstands at all. It's simple. Christians believe Jewish faith ends at Torah. First, they need to know that it extends to Talmud. After that it extends to Sefer Yetzirah. After that it extends to Sefer Bahir. Afer that it extends to Sefer Ha-Zohar. People mistakenly believe that the Jewish theology of revelation is closed after the Old Testament books of the prophets, but this is factually incorrect. They consider revelation an ongoing and open channel, and the Kabbalistic books are canonical. Rabbinic Judaism is NOT what people think the Israelite religion of the Old Testament is. They are not the same thing. They are categorically different.
The old testament is full of jews doing jewey shit to everyone around them. And that's after they'd editorialised it to make themselves seem less evil. It doesn't matter if the talmud was still an oral tradition back then, the torah is almost as bad.
That foul book has no business being taught to european children.
It really isn't.
It really is. Christians have adopted a book, written by jews, which casts jews as the heroes. But that contradicts their real world knowledge that jews are villains.
Hence the cognative dissonance and all the crazy theories that jews all got replaced overnight, or they're not really jews or whites are jews etc.
Seriously, what would it take for you to admit that jews are jews?
Note the dates attached to the art featured in the video. There is a disparity I am trying to point to here. My point is not simply to trash Celtic or Norse or Viking anything, but rather to talk about a flow of development, like a vector in history. On the one hand you want to project your favored culture deep into antiquity (I consider this a pretty universal feature of human psychology, throughout history). On the other hand, the things you want to hold up as evidence for their sophistication - be it architecture or artwork or civic institutions - are all dated from the middle ages.
Forget the material resources available - these vary throughout the world - and yet on every continent we have evidence for a kind of 'phase of civilization' in which at some point in antiquity, major civilizations build megalithic structures. We don't need to specify only megalithic: we could also specify form and function considerations, like ornate architecture for entertainment at the Colosseum, or the aqueducts.
The resource availability is not the most relevant fact, for we know that peoples in northern Europe did have stone available and some structures were built with it. It has more to do with what the architecture evidences about the psychological development of the group. Each major civilization passes through this phase of attempting to establish 'heaven' on earth, expressed in practical terms as setting down an eternal home symbolized by giant stone structures. The tendency toward only building things with more fallible materials is evidence of constant movement (or at least more regular movement), which is a sign of primitivity (generally speaking).
If the northern Europeans had demonstrated this at some point in their history, I'd not be making the claim. Even if they had, and then moved away from such settlement strategies and showed some intellectual development favoring greater mobility (hell, environmental concerns if you will), then I'd not be making the claim. Instead, it's that you don't see any of those developments, and when the evidence for higher culture does pop up, it's very late. Not only that, it is relatively short-lived, and does not seem to survive the middle ages with the rise of Abrahamic domination of the world order.
As a woodworker myself, I totally appreciate the use of wood that is both functional and beautiful. I prefer wood building to stone. This is not a value statement I'm making against wood, but rather what these kinds of phases demonstrate about the people itself across the centuries.
I won't deny that Christianity felt the influence of Platonism more than it made Platonism feel its influence. However, I also think it is absurd to think that late Neoplatonism was not influenced by Christianity whatsoever. In three centuries, there is no way the Platonic tradition could not be 'touched'. You see a heavier tendency in thinkers like Proclus to use personified terms in his divine hierarchy than in the early or middle Platonists. There really can't be doubt, since this feature is not a part of Aristotelianism or Platonism or Stoicism, that it was a Christian influence. God becomes something which desires, which thinks, which wills. You need only go to the gospels, to see that this is a theological trend that came into Platonism.
On Augustine, I'm not sure what his tolerance amounts to besides not killing Jews. He seems to think their errors are the blessings of the gentiles. I'm not unaware of how this could be depicted as manipulative language.
Note the dates attached to the art featured in the video.
Yes, we have more art preserved from the christian era, just as we have more iron-age art than bronze age art and more bronze age art than neolithic art.
All of those art styles are prechristian though, and the artifacts are prior to christianity becoming mainstream in scandinavia.
On the other hand, the things you want to hold up as evidence for their sophistication - be it architecture or artwork or civic institutions - are all dated from the middle ages.
No? The celtic oppidae I mentioned date back to the bronze age (at least). Spar churches are medieval but are based on prechristian architectural styles. The fact that christians tended to replace/commandeer pagan temples isn't proof pagans couldn't build temples.
I also questioned the value of judging the "greatness" of a civilisation by the size of their buildings. As I said before that leaves us with the inevitably conclusion that atheist globalism is greater than christianity, since christians never made 200 story skyscrapers.
Forget the material resources available - these vary throughout the world - and yet on every continent we have evidence for a kind of 'phase of civilization' in which at some point in antiquity, major civilizations build megalithic structures. We don't need to specify only megalithic: we could also specify form and function considerations, like ornate architecture for entertainment at the Colosseum, or the aqueducts.
You say to forget the material resources, and yet you immediately propose "megalithic" (large stone) construction to be the metric of civilisation. As I said I reject that measure, both because the size of buildings is not a good indicator of how functional a civilisation is and because wooden and earthen buildings can be just as functional, if not as long lasting. For example, large sections of the great wall of china are rammed earth, not megaliths.
Plenty of aqueducts were constructed by prechristian romans, along with other water storage systems. The gauls and britons also had fairly advanced mines with a great deal of modern features. They were initially assumed to be Roman because of their complexity but carbon dating later proved this false. Roman roads and towns were also often built over preexisting celtic ones.
As for ornateness... what possible reason could you have to assume their buildings weren't ornate? Every other part of their material culture that survived was ornate, I find it unlikely their buildings were an exception.
The resource availability is not the most relevant fact, for we know that peoples in northern Europe did have stone available and some structures were built with it. It has more to do with what the architecture evidences about the psychological development of the group. Each major civilization passes through this phase of attempting to establish 'heaven' on earth, expressed in practical terms as setting down an eternal home symbolized by giant stone structures. The tendency toward only building things with more fallible materials is evidence of constant movement (or at least more regular movement), which is a sign of primitivity (generally speaking).
You're reading way too much into it. Southern european cultures built in stone because they didn't have as much wood available. Same reason modern american houses are typically timber framed whereas european ones are more likely to be brick or concrete. When wood is plentiful it's a cheap and versitile construction material, when it's not people have to resort to more labour intensive options. Most insulae the romans built weren't expected to be a "heaven on earth" or an "eternal home." They were built from bricks because bricks were cheaper than wood. Very very few structures were "megalithic" as you put it.
If the northern Europeans had demonstrated this at some point in their history, I'd not be making the claim. Even if they had, and then moved away from such settlement strategies and showed some intellectual development favoring greater mobility (hell, environmental concerns if you will), then I'd not be making the claim. Instead, it's that you don't see any of those developments, and when the evidence for higher culture does pop up, it's very late. Not only that, it is relatively short-lived, and does not seem to survive the middle ages with the rise of Abrahamic domination of the world order.
See above. Even today swedes are more likely to build with wood than stone, even though we live in a modern economy with plenty of concrete and bricks. There's just too much wood available to motivate a push for anything else. Same goes in the Baltic countries.
The same is not true in Ireland or Spain where the forests have been depleted. It's purely economics, there isn't any basis for drawing philosophical conclusions.
As a woodworker myself, I totally appreciate the use of wood that is both functional and beautiful. I prefer wood building to stone. This is not a value statement I'm making against wood, but rather what these kinds of phases demonstrate about the people itself across the centuries.
They demonstrate that the Italian peninsula had a larger population for a longer period of history. Even before the aryans showed up the terramare civilisation was enormous, easily as big as anything in the fertile crescent. It also doesn't help that in more arid climates it takes much longer for forests to reestablish themselves.
There's also a trend in scandinavia that woodworking techniques over time are adapted to working with smaller and smaller trees. The really enormous longships of the viking era were built with absolutely tiny trees compared to their ancestors which could be built with 4-6 strakes.
I won't deny that Christianity felt the influence of Platonism more than it made Platonism feel its influence. However, I also think it is absurd to think that late Neoplatonism was not influenced by Christianity whatsoever. In three centuries, there is no way the Platonic tradition could not be 'touched'. You see a heavier tendency in thinkers like Proclus to use personified terms in his divine hierarchy than in the early or middle Platonists. There really can't be doubt, since this feature is not a part of Aristotelianism or Platonism or Stoicism, that it was a Christian influence. God becomes something which desires, which thinks, which wills. You need only go to the gospels, to see that this is a theological trend that came into Platonism.
I'm sure it was influenced to some degree but nonetheless neoplatonism (or arguably just plain "platonism") was born without any need for christianity and would have kept developing without it. Probably with more success without the attacks it received once christians got more comfortable.
On Augustine, I'm not sure what his tolerance amounts to besides not killing Jews. He seems to think their errors are the blessings of the gentiles. I'm not unaware of how this could be depicted as manipulative language.
I don't think he was manipulative, just naive and far too tolerant.
I wouldn't say that "synagogue of satan" is a copium. It's pretty straightforward what it means. It explicitly refers as false jews as those who are not circumcised in heart (a reference to the new standard of not literal circumcision, and instead conversion), it is a direct attack on non-christian "jews". It's really not a weird interpretation manufactured as a cope-dose. The New Testament is really consistent about being against Rabinical Judaism. Really consistent.
That text is referring to hypocrites, it does not explicitly condemn jews who have not recognised jesus as the messiah.
Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and boast in God; 18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— 21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”[b]
25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
28 A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.
But ok, let's say the jews are the synagogue of satan. Why would we want white children to spend so much time, energy and emotional commitment to learning about the history of such an evil people. The average white kid can tell you more about noah then he can about Widukind or Cú Chullain. That is wrong.
To learn of their folly, which is what the Old Testament is.
What's really shocking is that they let Jews read it. But I guess they have the Talmud to tell them that when they are a piece of shit it's ok.
Also, I don't see any Synagog of Satan in there. So the bible also teaches against hypocrisy. Cool. It teaching against hypocrisy is not mutually exclusive with being very consistently against rabbinical judaism.
Also, did you know that Scandinavians were very very receptive to Christianity. They were instant zealots. If you believe Scandinavians to be among the most honest people on the planet with a high affinity for truth (I do), why were they so warm to the truth of Christianity. You say that Christianity isn't Scandinavian and so can't be the truth. But my Scandinavian ancestors would disagree.
To learn of their folly, which is what the Old Testament is.
Ok, but it's not presented as "here's this awful horrorfest of a book about some of the most evil people ever to have lived," it's presented as "here is the biblical golden age full of heroes and mighty kings." Christians aren't disgusted by the behaviour of the jews in the old testament, they find it exciting.
Also, I don't see any Synagog of Satan in there. So the bible also teaches against hypocrisy. Cool. It teaching against hypocrisy is not mutually exclusive with being very consistently against rabbinical judaism.
I quoted the text you were referring to. The bit about circumcision in the heart. It's way too vague to be considered a rejection of the jews.
Good for you, but that's not how it generally tends to work out.
I still say white children should be learning about the glories of their own culture first before being fed someone elses' even as a "how not to do it."
Christianity takes a foreign racial supremacy document and places it at the center of our culture.
But it removes the racial supremacy aspect. Christians are God’s chosen people in Christianity. I was raised christian and we were taught jews were going to hell.
and the sooner we return to our native religions that our ancestors spent thousands of years adapting to our culture and perspective on the world the better.
Ive got to point out here that the religion of the steppe herder was foreign and the IE invaders replaced the patrilineage of the native ‘I’ haplogroup of the WHGs and the ‘G’ haplogroup of the EEFs in western europe. Those are all our ancestors. Is that not an instance of foreign cucking?
Im pointing this out because you can’t go back far enough to find a religion thats not foreign in some way or a native regime that is not the legacy of foreign conquest. I feel that 2000 years is a long time to adapt Christianity to our culture and perspective. That is about how long the druid religion was native to Ireland.
We can accept christians without letting jews in the door. I think I could find plenty of achilles’ heels and ‘copes’ within IE paganism, because its just the nature of religions to be somewhat inconsistent.
Balkanization is our biggest problem. It is being exploited by actual jews. Our differing belief systems can co-exist within our common cause, because we have the same values.
There are lots of degenerates that call themselves pagans. There are lots of degenerates that call themselves atheists. Many of these people follow jewish culture. Isn’t this a double standard?
Not anywhere near enough. There is a common trend throughout history of Christians fanboying for jews because they're the heroes of the book they've adopted. This was not a thing before christianity.
Ive got to point out here that the religion of the steppe herder was foreign and the IE invaders replaced the patrilineage of the native ‘I’ haplogroup of the WHGs and the ‘G’ haplogroup of the EEFs in western europe. Those are all our ancestors. Is that not an instance of foreign cucking?
From the perspective of the natives? Yes, absolutely. Their Y chromosome lineages were almost completely wiped out by the PIEs.
Just because our ancestors conquered europe doesn't mean we should let it happen to us.
Im pointing this out because you can’t go back far enough to find a religion thats not foreign in some way or a native regime that is not the legacy of foreign conquest. I feel that 2000 years is a long time to adapt Christianity to our culture and perspective.
I agree that probably eventually would happen except that christians are addicted to their jewish books. As such the core of the religion never adapts, it always remains the same. There's no reason this has to be the case, they could call a new council of nicea and recodify the bible. I gather Hitler planned to do so. But they almost certainly won't.
That is about how long the druid religion was native to Ireland.
There's an argument that druidism is specifically native to the british isles since all the cultic centers are there and they don't seem to show up much on the continent (despite austria being ground zero for celtic culture). Even that aside though the religion of the gaels was theirs before they invaded Ireland. It might not be native to the island but it was native to the people practicing it.
We can accept christians without letting jews in the door.
History says otherwise.
I think I could find plenty of achilles’ heels and ‘copes’ within IE paganism
I can't think of anything anywhere near as bad as adopting the ethnocentric religion of one of the most dangerous and subversive tribes on the planet.
Balkanization is our biggest problem. It is being exploited by actual jews.
No, it's not. Centralisation is our biggest problem. Jews are in their element when there are centralised institutions to infiltrate.
Our differing belief systems can co-exist within our common cause, because we have the same values.
I agree, I have no problem allying with christians and I have never called for violence against them. But at the same time those structural problems still remain and we will end up fighting the same battles until they're resolved.
There are lots of degenerates that call themselves pagans. There are lots of degenerates that call themselves atheists. Many of these people follow jewish culture. Isn’t this a double standard?
No. The issue is not "some degenerates call themselves christians." I'd be willing to ignore that because we live in degenerate times, degeneracy is to be expected. The issue is that christianity specifically creates a dysfunctional cultural link between europeans and jews.
There is a common trend throughout history of Christians fanboying for jews because they're the heroes of the book they've adopted
You’re cherrypicking. Just as easy to make the case for a trend of christians not tolerating jews.
Their Y chromosome lineages were almost completely wiped out by the PIEs. Just because our ancestors conquered europe
Their. Our. The majority of our ancestry was not Yamnaya.
I agree that probably eventually would happen except that christians are addicted to their jewish books.
Roman Catholicism never focused on that shit.
I think probably the Amish are the best embodiment of white culture. They tick all my boxes. Including de-centralization. They are nothing like jews. Yet they are obsessed with a jewish book.
There's an argument that druidism is specifically native to the british isles since all the cultic centers are there and they don't seem to show up much on the continent (despite austria being ground zero for celtic culture).
The megalith religion was the creation of the EEFs or EEF/WHG hybrids. The druids were an elite decended heavily from the aryan conquerors, similar to the Brahmin elites of India. They formed elite castes of priests and warriors. They took on hot local chicks for their wives. Probably polygamously. The PIE expansion seems to mirror the Islamic expansion which was driven by polygyny (ie- the scarcity of available wives driving more conquests.) I would bet that becoming a druid was based on IE ancestry, and perhaps the elites of europe today (e.g. the Windsors) may have more heavy IE ancestry than commoners. This is still true of the Brahmins. I assume the druids simply assimilated the local holy places into their religion, similar to how christians repurposed pagan temples and muslims build on top of hindu, christian and jewish ones.
There are patterns of conquest that are seen over and over and over. If we can see past the partisanship of the latest conquests to what is truly “us”, we can stop the cycle of insanity. Its all inefficient as hell.
You’re cherrypicking. Just as easy to make the case for a trend of christians not tolerating jews.
No I'm not. Before christianity came along no europeans were hemming and hawing over whether jews should be given special rights or not, they were just another foreign tribe we were free to deal with or not as it pleased us. Christianity gives jews a unique position in europe as the original heroes of our primary cultural touchstone, there was no jewish question before christianity.
Their. Our. The majority of our ancestry was not Yamnaya.
All humans are a mix of different genetic and cultural lineages, but indo-european genetics and culture are by far the strongest signal in modern ethnic europeans.
Roman Catholicism never focused on that shit.
Are you kidding? They read a passage from the old testament every single sunday at the pulpit.
I think probably the Amish are the best embodiment of white culture. They tick all my boxes. Including de-centralization. They are nothing like jews. Yet they are obsessed with a jewish book.
I greatly admire the amish, but they're very much an exception when it comes to christianity. Just because one christian denomination has bucked the multicultural globalist trend doesn't mean christianity is naturally inclined that way.
The megalith religion was the creation of the EEFs or EEF/WHG hybrids. The druids were an elite decended heavily from the aryan conquerors, similar to the Brahmin elites of India. They formed elite castes of priests and warriors. They took on hot local chicks for their wives. Probably polygamously. The PIE expansion seems to mirror the Islamic expansion which was driven by polygyny (ie- the scarcity of available wives driving more conquests.) I would bet that becoming a druid was based on IE ancestry, and perhaps the elites of europe today (e.g. the Windsors) may have more heavy IE ancestry than commoners. This is still true of the Brahmins. I assume the druids simply assimilated the local holy places into their religion, similar to how christians repurposed pagan temples and muslims build on top of hindu, christian and jewish ones.
Aryans yes, gaels or celts, not necessarily. Like I said, celtic culture seems to have been heavily centered in central europe, whereas druidism seems to be heavily centered in the british isles. That suggests the gaels at least partially absorbed the existing aryan bell-beaker religion when they invaded.
There's also some evidence that the priesthood of the megalithic people persisted in britain and ireland for quite a few generations after the bell beaker conquest: Remains have been found of very pure blooded WHG with dark skin and blue eyes in the west of Ireland. Their joints suggested they did not participate in heavy manual labour and their genetics revealed an inbred family tree. That typically occurs in royal bloodlines where they're trying to preserve specific traits and lineages.
Either way, I'll take a pre-PIE or PIE religious heritage over a semetic one any day of the week. Jews already have way too much presence in our culture, we need to be taking as much ground from them as possible.
There are patterns of conquest that are seen over and over and over. If we can see past the partisanship of the latest conquests to what is truly “us”, we can stop the cycle of insanity. Its all inefficient as hell.
Christianity gives jews a unique position in europe as the original heroes of our primary cultural touchstone,
I expect we could argue this until the cows come home. They do have a special place in christianity as the heritage of jesus and as the betrayers of him. So I just dont see european christians as the fanboys of judaism that you do. I hardly ever heard OT sermons in my RC church. Alot of RC teachings weren’t anywhere in the bible. They developed a science of salvation that was based on logos and natural law as much as the gospels. RC was steeped in roman ritual and nobody save a few monks had any idea what was in the old or new testaments until the printing press.
but indo-european genetics and culture are by far the strongest signal in modern ethnic europeans.
https://files.catbox.moe/bbi71t.jpeg You are somewhere in that red circle. I believe the yamnaya are a mix of Caucasus hunter gatherer and Eastern Hunter gatherer. I think EHG are a mix of ANE and WHG. EEFs are a mix of Anatolians and WHG. North west europe in particular has high WHG. WHG haplogroup I is the most frequent haplogroup in scandinavia and the balkans.
I greatly admire the amish, but they're very much an exception when it comes to christianity.
The puritans. The quakers. The cathars. The calvinists/predestinationists (you have no hope in getting to heaven unless you’re scottish.) Martin Luther despised the jews. The point is, there are/were many “based” movements, even specifically anti-jewish movements, in christianity.
Aryans yes, gaels or celts, not necessarily. Like I said, celtic culture seems to have been heavily centered in central europe, whereas druidism seems to be heavily centered in the british isles. That suggests the gaels at least partially absorbed the existing aryan bell-beaker religion when they invaded.
Okay Ive been playing pretty fast and loose with my terminology. Celtic culture is associated with a yamnaya-like bell beaker/halstatt group in central europe at the end of the bronze age/ start of the iron age. These people likely spoke a proto-celtic language and it turns out they were already fairly mixed with EEF/WHG. They undergo a huge expansion period, engulfing lands from turkey to ireland and spain. I imagine the language and religious cultures are fairly consistent within that area, particularly among the “p-celts”. Multiple sources from antiquity assert there are druids in Gaul and other parts of central europe. Yes I think this was a sacrifice culture, a human sacrifice culture, and I think all the IE spin off religions were. There are common elements of human sacrifice in the myths and common IE words for sacrifice.
I am less confident about the homogeneity of this group genetically. There are multiple groups of steppe hybrids running around. Were the Celts the first people of steppe descent to hit the British Isles? I don’t really know.
But I think its likely that the druids come from the same tradition as the brahmins, and that the elite castes were more heavily descended from steppe ancestry and slowly assimilated to the point that they were indistinguishable from the commoners, at least phenotypically.
Remains have been found of very pure blooded WHG with dark skin and blue eyes in the west of Ireland.
Im very skeptical of these assertions of WHG as blue-eyed shitskins. Their model for predicting skin color is shakey, I feel. And then when you query what their prediction of Yamnaya phenotype is, they don’t think those people were light skinned/haired either. So the question is, where the fuck did all this light skin and hair come from? They don’t want to say, because then fair skinned light haired whites would form an attachment or something, and we can’t have that. So no, we all come from blue eyed niggers who magically became white 30 minutes ago. Color me dubious. But not dubh. Oh god Im corny.
What are you suggesting exactly?
Im suggesting that we all marry jews. No, psych. Lol.
I think there is a cycle in which self sufficient people evolve and then opportunists invade from somewhere else (or even may arise from the population itself) to live off them, and eventually mix with them, destroying the genetic signal for efficiency/productivity. Sometimes this happens in the form of polygynous invaders, who come for land and women and slave labor. There’s genetic evidence of this happening over and over. Polygamy causes males to become expansionist and tyrrannical, and its a totally inefficient allocation of resources. Its dysgenic imo, but we keep doing it over and over. White men are doing it to other white men, often.
If we can understand the mechanisms through which evolution works on our genetics, causing one group to exploit another, then we can avoid making certain errors and engineer a more stable society genetically. A more advanced human civilization is one that is not just made up of smarter individuals but more honest ones. We are at once independent information processors and a distributed system of information processing. That is what a society is. What is the point if you use your intelligence to deceive others? If our goal is to transcend animals and comprehend our place in the universe, its not desireable. If we are just clever animals tricking each other to win a sexual competition, then the wars and lies and tyrannies will cycle endlessly. Exploitation of other groups or individuals, either through violence or deception, is simply the sexual competition of animals. Jews deceive, niggers kill. We can perhaps control or minimize sexual competition within our own society to eliminate deception and corruption, which are just inefficiencies. The amish may worship a jew, but they have inadvertantly engineered a good population for these purposes: self sufficient, egalitarian, low in corruption.
You may be over-romanticizing the pre-christian era imo just as the christians over romanticize theirs. Some people here seem to have arrived at some moral truths through a religion founded by jews. Others here found the same truths through a path which rejected jewish influence. All I can say is I think its more complicated than either side really wants to accept.
I expect we could argue this until the cows come home. They do have a special place in christianity as the heritage of jesus and as the betrayers of him. So I just dont see european christians as the fanboys of judaism that you do.
Yes. The jews have a special place in christianity and therefore any christian nation. This is a completely unnatural state of affairs. No nation should be adopting a foreign mythology and recognising it's heirs as special. It's begging to be taken advantage of.
Even the christians who claim to hate jews (like Augustine of hippo) still argue their presence should be tolerated in christian countries, because there might be an opportunity to create more christians.
There's even a guy in this very thread (PS) arguing that the presence of jews simply isn't a problem provided we have catholicism. We can fix them all with magic words by converting them!
At this point I fucking give up. Guys like that believe their meme is right, everything else is wrong and that's all there is to it. No amount of evidence or reality slapping them in the face will change their opinion.
I hardly ever heard OT sermons in my RC church. Alot of RC teachings weren’t anywhere in the bible. They developed a science of salvation that was based on logos and natural law as much as the gospels. RC was steeped in roman ritual and nobody save a few monks had any idea what was in the old or new testaments until the printing press.
Not sermons, readings. The first reading (liturgy of the word) is usually from the old testament.
I fully recognise that christian scholars developed all kinds of interesting philosophical ideas. The problem is that they are all hitched to that one book which is given a place of prime importance.
The puritans. The quakers. The cathars. The calvinists/predestinationists (you have no hope in getting to heaven unless you’re scottish.) Martin Luther despised the jews. The point is, there are/were many “based” movements, even specifically anti-jewish movements, in christianity.
The cathars weren't christian, or at least so far from the christians that caused all the problems that it's a bit misleading to give them the same name.
As for the rest, they're still bringing the book along for the ride. Even if they don't currently have any dealings with the jews, the book still gives jews a prime place in their education. It's only a matter of time before one of them decides the jews were great and decides to bring a few of them over to visit.
Okay Ive been playing pretty fast and loose with my terminology. Celtic culture is associated with a yamnaya-like bell beaker/halstatt group in central europe at the end of the bronze age/ start of the iron age. These people likely spoke a proto-celtic language and it turns out they were already fairly mixed with EEF/WHG. They undergo a huge expansion period, engulfing lands from turkey to ireland and spain. I imagine the language and religious cultures are fairly consistent within that area, particularly among the “p-celts”. Multiple sources from antiquity assert there are druids in Gaul and other parts of central europe. Yes I think this was a sacrifice culture, a human sacrifice culture, and I think all the IE spin off religions were. There are common elements of human sacrifice in the myths and common IE words for sacrifice.
There were druids in Gaul but their cultic centers were in britain and Ireland and that's where they went to study. If druidism were an original celtic institution then why wouldn't the cultic centers be in the alps somewhere? Or bohemia? Either way it's an indo-european practice so it's not particularly important.
I won't get into human sacrifice here. It's toof ar off topic.
Im very skeptical of these assertions of WHG as blue-eyed shitskins. Their model for predicting skin color is shakey, I feel. And then when you query what their prediction of Yamnaya phenotype is, they don’t think those people were light skinned/haired either. So the question is, where the fuck did all this light skin and hair come from? They don’t want to say, because then fair skinned light haired whites would form an attachment or something, and we can’t have that. So no, we all come from blue eyed niggers who magically became white 30 minutes ago. Color me dubious. But not dubh. Oh god Im corny.
XD I love a good pun. Maith oraibh a scoláire.
Dark skin, not black skin. Either way it doesn't matter, the point is there were still bits of the megalithic religion hanging around.
If we can understand the mechanisms through which evolution works on our genetics, causing one group to exploit another, then we can avoid making certain errors and engineer a more stable society genetically. A more advanced human civilization is one that is not just made up of smarter individuals but more honest ones. We are at once independent information processors and a distributed system of information processing. That is what a society is. What is the point if you use your intelligence to deceive others? If our goal is to transcend animals and comprehend our place in the universe, its not desireable. If we are just clever animals tricking each other to win a sexual competition, then the wars and lies and tyrannies will cycle endlessly. Exploitation of other groups or individuals, either through violence or deception, is simply the sexual competition of animals. Jews deceive, niggers kill. We can perhaps control or minimize sexual competition within our own society to eliminate deception and corruption, which are just inefficiencies. The amish may worship a jew, but they have inadvertantly engineered a good population for these purposes: self sufficient, egalitarian, low in corruption.
Ok, well, the first stop in disincentivising deceptive forms of competition is cutting off the deceptive ones and anything they can use to gain a foothold.
You may be over-romanticizing the pre-christian era imo just as the christians over romanticize theirs. Some people here seem to have arrived at some moral truths through a religion founded by jews. Others here found the same truths through a path which rejected jewish influence. All I can say is I think its more complicated than either side really wants to accept.
I'm not saying the prechristian era was perfect by any means, I'm just recognising that one of the basic things they got right was telling children stories about their own people, so they grow up with an ingroup preference. Not some dangerously masochistic outgroup preference.
Some christians have rejected jewish influence but they won't reject the jewish book. So the book sticks around generation after generation until someone suceptible reads it and suddenly the jews are a problem again.
We don't have this recurring problem with any other culture because we don't have their oral history in our kids' heads.
There are lots of degenerates that call themselves pagans. There are lots of degenerates that call themselves atheists. Many of these people follow jewish culture. Isn’t this a double standard?
The way I see it it's like that scene in inception where he takes the spinning top and places it in his wife's mind safe thing. So the core of her heuristics changes and she becomes obsessed with the idea that the world isn't real and that she needs to kill herself to escape.
I've raised this point to christcucks on this very site, that they're not actually following what Jesus commands (sell all you have and give it to the poor). Their response? "It's just a metaphor, bro." LOL.
Your comment reminds me of a popular post that was on /r/atheism a few years back, where the question was equally loaded (if God told you to kill me, would you?).
The underlying mentality is the same: to hold on to base values even into fear and vanity. If Christ wants to fuck your wife or if the Father wanted you dead, it's going to happen by definition, and you can't stop it. You can either accept it and try to learn from it, or you can adopt the loser mentality and cry about how Hitler and his Vriil magicians should have triumphed or hid you in the Hollow Earth.
Christians are generally fags who try to judge others based on their cookie cutter morality from their easy mode, predictable existence. Many lack life experience that allow them to relate to me. Most do not support abortion when they do not have to deal with the results.
Christians should be forced to live among and pay for the consequences of their weak faggotry, then I wouldn't care what the fuck those losers think.
Christcuck. Pretty sure I've said it in chat and other unmentionable places that are not newvoat.
I generally don't give a shit about what people believe unless it explicitly disrupts society as a whole or is a negative influence in a community. Within those parameters, there are definitely some users here who are bonafide christcucks.
Now listen here, christcuck. I am not exactly religious, but it was always strange that Jesus, who is God's son came down to save the chosen jews (they're his favorite, remember) and they rejected him, so he just went down the list to his #2 pick. Well, what the fuck, man. Thats some jew shit.
It's not like he even chose europeans, it's a globalist religion supposed to appeal to all of humanity. The christian cult was spread extremely aggressively by the romans as a form of social control, europe just happened to be their primary sphere of influence. If the western empire had fallen before christianity became mainstream then it would be a middle eastern and north african religion.
All the Christians in my family are Christcucks, they're weak minded and pathetic in nature, they follow all Government orders void of morality, they parrot everything they're told to by the jew media and shun even their own blood for refusing to follow, they make statements such as "bombing Hiroshima was necessary to end the war".
Its not about the slur it's about the divisive kikes using it to break up our unspoken accord to fight kikes together. They are playing to the kikes very obvious divide and conquer strategy.
People who say Christcuck don't offend me they offend our union to defeat the kikes.
Who's saying we shouldn't fight the kikes? I'm not proposing to wage war on christians unless it's a defensive one, I just want more christians to wake up.
In my ideal world whites will nope out of globohomo en masse and form their own communities. Some of those will be pagan, some christian, some other, and that's fine.
The issue I see is a long term one: The same memes present in christianity which caused whites to be receptive to multiculturalism and jewish subversion in the first place will be there. Five to ten generations down the line I see us fighting the same battles.
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Nobody wants or needs your forgiveness Christcuck. Christianity has been destroyed by our jewish overlords. If you are too blind to see it, you are the worst kind of Christcuck. The religion started out strong, but it is a perversion of reality now. jews are not Israelites, they are khazars. They invaded and stole the land we lost to the muzzies via WW2, and you suck their dick and tell them thank you and let them mutilate your sons.
Wake the fuck up. If you think jews only infiltrated government, academia, and media, you are an absolute retard. Religion is the biggest and easiest control mechanism. It was the first thing they infiltrated.
"Christcuck" is a term meant to denigrate all Christians not just nuchristians who preach/support tolerance above all else.
It means that christian values have cuckolded you, robbed you of your rights by natural law.
As a christian I spit on any faggots who use this language to cajole or malign our character. It is counter productive, the non christians in our movement using it are either subversive kikes or deluded by subversive kikes into thinking a 2000 year old religion now indelibly bound to all european blood for a thousand years will suddenly give way to them and their disorganized basement posting.
Go back to the drawing board shit heads, you arent getting rid of christendom nor will you ever surmount us in numbers within similar movements. Ironically you will have to cooperate for us all to succeed in repelling the kikes and to cleanse the kiked.
If you stopped being such pouty edgy atheist boys with your fake ass dead pagan bullshit you would see christian europe built itself to greatness and conquered the world, pagan europe made endless brothers wars that kept our people so weak and isolated we couldn't resist rome, the mongols or the persians. Reality check: odin sucks the cocks of dead men for magical sustenance, Christ beats jews with whips and destroys their user schemes to their face in their own God's temple and tells them their God has sent Him because He is abandoning them.
Christ as concept and being is the most offensive thing to Jews, living proof God disowns them and revokes their chosen status.
Almost Christ's entire time on earth was spent criticizing rabbinical judaism (the pharisees and sadducees)
Some of our best equiped and most informed ancient criticisms of jews and you refuse to employ it (Christian scripture) because you don't want to share the movement with the Christians it would convince to our cause.
People who use christcuck as a blanket pejorative don't want to defeat the jews or their plans for domination they just want a hugbox for purity spiralling LARPagans to virtue signal how much they hate everything that the jews have ever come into contact with.
"Indelibly" is a very strong word, I wouldn't be so sure.
Christ as concept and being is the most offensive thing to Jews, living proof God disowns them and revokes their chosen status.
Jews are narcissists. They despise the people they manipulate and use even as they do it. Just because they consider something beneath them isn't proof it's a threat to them. Quite the contrary.
Almost Christ's entire time on earth was spent criticizing rabbinical judaism (the pharisees and sadducees)
Yes. He did has value as a reform movement within the jewish community. This makes him valuable to jews, not europeans.
Before christianity we didn't have a "jewish question." They had no special place in our world other than as a minor trading partner. There was no reason to argue for giving them special dispensation to live in our lands, practice a foreign religion or monopolise certain industries.
Christianity places their stories and mythology at the core of our culture. We're replacing our own identity with a foreign one. That is unacceptable and the only reason anyone on here does it is out of habit. If christianity were a new religion everyone on here would call it out as a jewish trick and reject it.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:54:01 ago (+1/-0)*
But what is truth? If Wuotan produced value for whites does that make it the truth? (debatable that is the case). Would we then want other people to have the truth including the Chinese, or at least correct their ignorance in not seeing Wuotan is correct because he is pro-white as you see him? Would they not then say it isn't true because it isn't pro-chinese? Wouldn't they be logical in their assessment, at least as much as yourself?
Truth is singular. I think any intellectually honest conversation would admit that even for subjects that aren't religion or race related. The idea that truth is truth because it might aid in some race war throws any hope of truth being found out the window. Sure I'd like to win a race war, but even the pretense of wanting to find truth doesn't need to be thrown out the window because of it. The nature of truth is orthogonal to our struggles. This would be like Indians unironically believing the world is carried on a turtle not even because of their hindu religion but because it came from an ethnically Indian source. You'd have to call them out of having such a thin vale over a complete disinterest in finding truth.
Truth is universal but humans aren't capable of understanding pure truth, our minds are too small. We're not gods, we're just men. So the best we can do is metaphors and similes.
Thing about metaphors is that they're culturally specific. Stories and comparisons that make sense to one group of people with a particular temperment and experience won't make sense to another. This is why any religion claiming to be global and for all humanity should be treated with suspicion.
Even when they claim to be global (like Islam) they always bear a heavy cultural imprint from their originators. Ethnocentric religions on the other hand were explicitly shaped with those cultural differences in mind. Odinism was created to help the Norse people become closer to the divine, it is their religion. The Gaelic religion was created for the Gaels, the Greek religion was created for the Helenes etc.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:31:34 ago (+1/-0)
But do you think those truths in metaphor could point to more concrete and specific truths. Odin casting his eye, Hercules being a demigod, living as a mortal, who saves his bride from death after her misstep, and must experience the realm of death himself in doing so?
Symbolism is like a finger pointing at the moon. If you focus too much on the finger you will miss all that glory that is right there for you to see.
Why did Scandinavians who had these myths take so quickly to Christianity? Maybe they saw that these truths in metaphor that they had been taught since they were kids pointed to something. The Jews also had teaching prior to Christ to help them recognize him, but because of their nature the teachings were for not. Maybe the Scandinavians having better nature were able to use their prior learning more readily.
But do you think those truths in metaphor could point to more concrete and specific truths.
Of course, otherwise what would be the point?
Symbolism is like a finger pointing at the moon. If you focus too much on the finger you will miss all that glory that is right there for you to see.
Like I said, human minds are too small to take in the entirety of reality and divinity. If were weren't then we would be god and this discussion would be pointless. Any human language claiming to be the word of the divine is a lie.
Why did Scandinavians who had these myths take so quickly to Christianity? Maybe they saw that these truths in metaphor that they had been taught since they were kids pointed to something.
That is false. They did not take to christianity quickly or without opposition. Their rulers gradually adopted christianity for political convenience and the rest of the region followed even more gradually. Kings who tried to rush the process had to back down or face being deposed.
That has been the same pattern everywhere: Christians build an army of outcasts and undersirables then parlay the power that gives them to gain control of social elites. Once they become powerbrokers they extend their influence and start stamping out opposition. Christianity didn't spread because it was some universal truth, it spread through trickery and strongarming. They had/have the exact same tactics as marxists, probably because they ultimately originate in the same ethnic group.
There was no reason to argue for giving them special dispensation to live in our lands, practice a foreign religion or monopolise certain industries.
Christians don’t realize that Christianity allowed jews to establish diaspora within our countries. Like modern day orthodox judiasm, they were able to create a thriving jewish society immune to laws Christians followed. Eventually like you said, monopolizing influential industries.
Antisemitism has always been used as a weapon for jews. We know how it is beneficial for jewish hegemony today and why they fake it whenever possible. 100’s of years ago it reinforced the idea that jews needed to be segregated and ethnocentric. Although, it repeatedly lead to their expulsion from countries many times. Years later they would eventually be let back in, specifically because of biblical text.
This Mario looking mofo was a literal ethnic yid, national Israeli and religious heeb that was only pretending to be a Christian. All to created division amongst the userbase between critical thinkers and brain dead, jew loving, christ-cucks.
He was really a Christian. I don’t think he was pretending.
You call Christians kikes all the time. I would think FKH was a confirmation of all your theories: the consummate christian, jewish in body and soul. But now you’re saying he’s not a christian because he’s too jewish. I will need clarification on this. You have me so confused now.
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:07:18 ago (+1/-0)
He was really a Christian.
Wrong!
He was ethnically a Jew He was nationally an Israeli He was religiously Jewish
You are still falling for his confidence scam.
But now you’re saying he’s not a christian because he’s too jewish.
I've always said he was a jew playing the fake christuck card, all the enamor a team of fuckwits to defend his subversions as he bought up subs. What better way to get low IQ mongos to attack white nationalists, than to pretend you are a Christian? Then users on to his machinations will be attacked by christoids for daring to piss on the jew-lite book.
You have me so confused now.
Again or still, what is the correct term to use here?
My point is this: why are you now suddenly distinguishing between christianity and judaism? Youve always equated these and called christians kikes.
He was ethnically a Jew He was nationally an Israeli He was religiously Jewish
Ill take this as a defense of christians. You seem to be strongly objecting to any conflation of jewishness and christianity. Christians are not jews. They are two totally separate things and you can’t be both. Christians are non-jews. Gotcha.
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:49:36 ago (+1/-0)
My point is this: why are you now suddenly distinguishing between christianity and judaism?
I'm getting tired of your yid games and kike defense strategy of known subversives and literal kikes on this site.
Youve always equated these and called christians kikes.
People that follow jews books think like jews, let that sink in for a second.
Ill take this as a defense of christians.
Thats a fucking idiot take.
The Bible is indefatigably and irrefutably based almost entirely on Jewish holy books by jews, starring jews. It is glaringly obvious even to a blind, retarded, beagle the origins of (((Christianity))) were and are jewish in nature.
Christians are not jews.
Spiritual Jews, not genetic jews. Why do kikes need to launch an unwinnable hot war with Europeans two millenia ago, when they can convince Whites to fight against their own race, by making them believe a heeb origin story is about White Europeans?
If we want to fight all forms of judiasm we must also think critically and objectively about what the subversive nature of all Abrahamic faiths.
So christians are spiritual jews. But I guess FKH can’t be a spiritual jew since he’s a physical one. Oh its all clear now.
Stop pretending to misunderstand my sarcasm: your arguments lack consistency. You accuse all these right wing white christians of jewishness but then you claim FKH can’t be a christian. You can’t have it both ways.
Knock yourself out trying to take my words out of conext with your little screenshots to prove Im a “spiritual jew”. Who else did that? Oh I know... FKH.
Yeah its a word game alright. I was characterizing your argument, as you well know.
But pretend that you think that was my literal argument and not sarcasm, because your primary tactic is dishonesty.
I call them as I see them. Guys like you and dangus engage in dishonest debate tactics to mischaracterize anything that your adversary says, because you are comfortable “owning” people in such ways. You constantly sow division and contribute nothing positive to the forum. Why is this? Because you are antisocial? Or because you are something else?
FKH played these games too, but at least he posted some good content.
The REEEING is strong with the users who use the pejorative term! That's funny as hell by itself, they seem so threatened by a simple list. I'd forgotten all about fightknightHERO, the Isralei jew who no longer posts after being outed. I wonder if others on this list have a hebrewic persuasion or affiliation.
Thanks for compiling and publishing it @Thereuntu, you might cross post it to funny as well.
Quite the contrary. Look how many people came out and asked to be added to the list. Christcucks are the ones reeing that they need to even make such a list.
tired of the low iq mob of christians on here who just downvote any fact they don't like, just like leftists.
christians would rather burn their own blood at the stake in the name of their jewish god than unite behind a global white revolution to take down our enemy. the seething hatred protestants have for catholics whilst praising jews and every other group is so beyond pathetic. they're nothing but race traitors. they are 100% 'mindcucked' by the jew, it's become so obvious by now and it's truly embarrassing to watch them try and squirm away from all logic and reason.
Damn right. If you practice a religion not of your peoples but of desert sandnigger savages that teach you that you are inherently flawed and need to love you're enemies, well ...
I appreciate the effort, but this really backfired and you should have seen it coming. Maybe you should have included an excerpt about how Jesus was the anti-jew and came to chew out the worst people on the planet and give them a chance at being decent people.
The Jews had subverted religion sacredly given to them by an all knowing God, and turned it into a way of yielding power over other people. And Jesus called them out on it. Any one who chooses to hate Jesus is being willfully ignorant of who he was. They attack him and his apostles based on tenuous association with the very people they spoke against. It's the exact same associative thinking that makes liberals treat capitalism, racism, whiteness as the same thing. It's anti-logic.
If you are engaging in associative thinking you are not being your smartest self. Raise yourself to the level you know you are capable of.
I have presented a list and a list by itself. People are free to do with it what they will.
That's fair. And I do believe in freedom of information almost more than I believe in freedom of speech, even though I believe in both absolutely. I do see a lot of people reee-ing from you posting it when it's just information.
I guess I read too much into the intent and that's my bad.
They are glowies and useful idiots. Probably one or two guys who owns all those accounts. They do this to fracture the user base of sites like this. Think about it, who are the majority of people going to free speech sites, Christians. They know this so they larp as neo-pagans to attack Christ. They are children of satan.
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:15:51 ago (+1/-0)
Or they are Jews themselves? Jew's top priority is their ethinic interests, but among their spiritual interests there is none greater than trying to snuff out Christianity. That's why there are anti-christian themes in music, movies, and television, all run by Jews. So then why would they not infiltrate forums and movements they have every interest in infiltrating anyway and promoting the anti-christian rhetoric?
you cucks keep telling yourselves this as a way to dismiss it and avoid listening to what is said. you know it's not true, which shows how fragile your hold is and how desperately you're clinging on. you'll let go soon enough and finally wake up. it's inevitable. a lie can't stand up to the truth.
Thereunto, did you read my other comment? Its clear you didn’t look at the context of these instances.
You should add an edit explaining that you did not check the context. I see someone saying they are going to block all these users.
I know you want the bullying to stop but you might have done it in a less divisive way. Or at least a more accurate one. If Im an anti-christcuck, what the fuck have I been fighting with Doug about for the last 6 months?
Seriuosly though, why follow the jewish religions? Its especially cringey to see the "white people are the real jews!". Why do we need to be? I get that many of you are emotionally attached to christianity. But just let it go man. Its a weak religion. If you need religion you have plenty of room to explore faith with our indo-aryan pantheons.
These are the instances of me using christcuck on this forum. In every instance I am arguing with anti-christcuck and defending Christians. I have been defending you guys. Context is important.
Insulting people as christcucks and race traitors all the time is not cordial. I told goodlord to come on over. So maybe a new christcuck for you to pick on. But if I disagree with you on christcucks you go ad hominem. Instead of civilly disagreeing, you try agressive tactics to herd me into your anti-christcuck paddock. e.g. calling me a kike. " blah blah blah christcuck" So tired of your nigger argumentation. Is this the part where you call me a christcuck?
I have seen some christians calling pagans and atheists names as well. We can express our differences without harrassment. Conservative whites must unite. Its incredibly demoralizing to receive hate from within our own group for holding conservative values. We came to this place by different paths. We agree on so much. Lets focus on that.
We celebrated Hitler’s B-day 2 days ago. He would not want this sort of division.
Right. As soon as I saw your name on the list I realized he compiled this via search and that it would not segregate people using it as a pejorative versus people simply referring to the term in argument.
Have I not called you diversity loving faggots christcucks recently enough? Stop forgiving jews for their sins. Stop practicing ritualized cannibalism where you eat your savior's flesh and drink his blood. Stop participating in jewish sin transferral magic or you'll end up cosmically and spiritually blamed for the dystopian nightmare world they created for you. Read the stories of dreamcoat Joseph and Moses and ask yourself which part of that story we're in. The jews created christcuckery to destroy ancestral Aryan spirituality.
Helheim is no lake of fire. It is where all your Germanic ancestors believed they were going when they died for thousands of years before christcucks such as yourself got jewed into disavowing their ancestral afterlife.
Think about how jewy that is. The jews didn't just create their own afterlife myth and push it on others - they also took existing afterlife myths and made them into pejoratives. They named their bad afterlife Hell after the goddess Hel in order to make the beliefs of your ancestors seem bad. They couldn't just have their own religion, they had to subvert and destroy every other religion.
What an amazing post, I cannot give you enough praise.
Christianity literally headhunted pagan religious sites to erect Christian temples to replace them with and even added in pagan naturalis such as water symbolism to better attract adherants to the new jew based faith.
When have I used that word? I probably used it sometime in the past, but I generally object to its use.
Even where I use it, I almost never use it to refer to Christians as a whole, as there are many Christians that I respect, and a lot more among the most common alternative religious statuses who I despise.
Worship your dead kike a little harder christcuck. If you weren't a kike and a loser you'd see the value in worshipping the gods of your white forefathers.
[ - ] random 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:34:20 ago (+0/-0)
(((Christ)))cuck is too mild. (((Vulture food))) worshipper is better.
"Oy vey! Yes vorship one of us as if he vas a god, not as a dirty criminal going against Europe and Rome! MUH HOLOCAUST ROME KILLED 45 TRILLION! Stupid goyim."
Words don't have any power you don't give them. This word represents the people who call themselves Christians but are destroying the west (christian) through their embracing of communism.
Don't have some Israeli penis to suck on? The jews are god's chosen people and one should turn the other cheek while mohammed and tyron rape your wife and children. That's what you teach and support, right?
[ - ] sguevar 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:38:01 ago (+3/-2)
Looking to create a list in order for those that believe in God to go ahead and brigade? Apply persecution tactics because they do not believe in God and blaspheme against Jesus?
We are not here to persecute anybody. We are here to share testimony of God's Word and how it served our lives.
If they want to blaspheme against Christ and mock His followers, that is between them and God. We have no business doing this.
Persecution tactics? What nonsense. They are the ones persecuting you liberal minded fool. The devil blasphemes God and you come to their defense. That's evil. The lie is that Christianity is some weak limp wristed religion. That's not Christianity. That's heretical garbage. It was only until around the 60s that the enemies of Christ had thoroughly subverted the Church from their decades of infiltration and now you have all these so called Christians who are passive to everything and what good has that done? Entire Christian nations are no longer Christian. Did Christ not condemn the jews? Did Christ not whip the jews when he found them making a mockery of his House?
"He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, is fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but the good to do wrong." St. John Chrysostom
“But, when necessity compels, not those only who are invested with power of rule are bound to safeguard the integrity of faith, but, as St. Thomas maintains: ‘Each one is under obligation to show forth his faith, either to instruct and encourage others of the faithful, or to repel the attacks of unbelievers.’” Pope Leo XIII
"Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X
"The greatest obstacle in the apostolate of the Church is the timidity or rather the cowardice of the faithful." -Pope St. Pius X
"Liberal Catholics are the worst enemies of the Church" -Blessed Piux IX
ROLF using catholics as reference already shows how much false doctrine you follow... the RCC is the whore of the revelations. Begone you false prophet.
Where did I express agreement with their tactics? What I clearly expressed with my position was the fact that we are not to use their tactics against them. You do not use the same tools the synagogue of Satan and their stooges use to persecute.
You stated before that you simply created a list and that was it. What was the purpose of creating this list if not looking to persecute their beliefs - as wrong as it may be? You look to get support from people that believe in God or in the case of catholics - that say they believe in God, but really not, they believe in their church - a church of perdition (A topic for another time).
The purpose of creating a list is to brigade, plain and simple. You are being purposely dishonest when saying you had no ulterior motive.
Regarding the fact that the blasphemers of Jesus Christ persecute my Brethren in Christ is not under discussion. It is foretold in the Word of God, we were told this to NOT GET OFFENDED. Might want to read a bit more on that. Additionally we were told to rejoice in persecution and tribulation because that proves that we are in fact right in our cause with the Lord.
Do you disagree with the concept that the pejorative "Christcuck" is used to persecute?
I do not agree with it if you need me to be more blunt about it. I obviously know that is in fact another way to attack my Brethren in Christ but we are not here to start a persecution on this site and certainly you will not help the cause of Christ by playing the same tactics as they do.
Regarding the quotations he provided from false prophets that were brought by the whore of the Revelations, I make heed of no false prophets nor false doctrines for they DO NOT preach what Christ preached. They preach what their so-called church thought them to preach and they will meet their judgement with God alone.
I am not going to put judgement on them because I have no power in doing so, for I also have sinned as we all have, but I will rebuke them and move on. Do you really think I am going to spend time in searching for those that believe the foul doctrine of catholicism that hunted and persecuted Believers in Jesus Christ because they knew that we were not to trust in the church as an institution but as a way of life?
your fellow christians on here already target downvote as one mob even without the list. they've got issues.. imagine the mentality of this guy actually going out of his way to make this list. he's got over half the active posters on this site on it too lol.
[ - ] taoV 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 13:59:12 ago (+1/-0)
My comment was meant to point out that exact issue, so I'm glad the point came across. Fwiw I'm not generally hostile to Christians, despite disagreements.
the scofield bible is an "update" if you wanna split hairs.
OTOH the KJV was the target of the Nov. 5 Gunpowder Plot, which would have annihilated the KJV translation of the bible. Pretty significant event in history that is conveniently glossed over.
The fact that you're apparently not Christian is a bit sus tbh. so STFU.
He means the fact that god had to keep sending new prophets whose teachings contradicted the old prophets is sus. If it was one true faith, should just need one prophet and that's it.
Hebrew or Israelite is what jews were called back during that time, just as they were called habiru, which is probably where the word hebrew comes from, even further back in time than that. Just as the Hyksos in Egypt are known as the proto-Israelites who came to Egypt from Salem (Jerusalem) and then after getting kicked out from Egypt, they returned to Salem. However all these terms were used to describe what we know as JEWS today.
Yahweh is the jew god of the Old Testament, Jesus claimed that Yahweh was his father and claimed that he was from the seed of David. Jesus went to the temple or the nearest synagogue every shabbat and he preached in the temple and in the synagogues. That's why he was also called a Rabbi. All of his disciples were jewish and they went to the Temple court daily even after Jesus death meaning that they still remained as jews despite being a disciple of Jesus for 3 years, what does that tell us about Jesus and his teachings? Jesus NEVER preached to gentiles with the intent of recruiting them. In fact, Jesus looked down upon non-jews and considered them as dogs and would only acknowledge them if the non-jews acknowledged themselves as dogs and Jesus as their master (see Matthew 15: 21-28). Christianity in the very beginning was a religion for jews by jews and Jesus made that clear as he himself said that he came only for the lost sheep of Israel.
And this verse from JOHN 4:22
''You Samaritans worship what you do not know. We worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews.''
Christianity was later modified by Paul to make it more appealing to Gentiles.
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Faggots.
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[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 14 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:54:11 ago (+20/-6)
You earn the title of Christcuck when you ignore the bible and follow the self destructive horseshit that the kikes preach.
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[ - ] rage 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:32:29 ago (+1/-1)
Religion is for low IQ. Hate reality all you like.
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[ - ] Centaurus 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:42:20 ago (+3/-0)
You know what else stupid people do? Attempt to make others conform to their beliefs, or lack thereof. Stupid people think they can change someone's mind by labeling them. If you think everything that happens to you in life is pure chance, then personally I feel sorry for you. The difference between you and I is that I would not come into a post about atheism and start badmouthing and shitposting the non-believers.
p.s. i like your username.
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Is the Bible playing 20D Chess, faggot?
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[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:52:29 ago (+1/-0)
You mean those that are deceived by jews and are too lazy to read what's actually written?
The Bible discusses these people.
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The Bible is extremely consistent if you take the time to read the words, yourself. If you rely on others to do the reading, they can strip the context and you'd never know it.
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[ - ] paul_neri 9 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 03:42:25 ago (+11/-2)
"A ‘Christcuck’, is a man who has been cuckolded by the Christian religion and is weak in a way that causes others to suffer."
" 'Christcuck' (Internet slang, vulgar, derogatory) An overzealous Christian.".
I suspect users of the term on this site mean it in the second sense. My reason for saying this is that in my experience the people on this site are generally polite and well intentioned. So...maybe what we have here is simply a communication issue?
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Marx was without a doubt one of the biggest assholes to ever live
Just because he said "religion is the opiate of the masses" doesnt make it untrue
Some of the most religious people are the biggest niggers
Youre quite mentally weak and/or poorly raised if you need an imaginary cult to tell you the difference between right and wrong
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[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 11 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:42:53 ago (+12/-1)
Christianity takes a foreign racial supremacy document and places it at the center of our culture. It occupies the same place that we used to fill with stories about the greatness of our ancestors and gods. Instead of learning pride in our own culture and heritage we're learning to be in awe of jews.
That is cuckholdry.
I know there's going to be a billion comments about how "synagogue of satan" was really referring to the jews, not the "false jews," or how whites are really hebrews and crap like that, but as far as I'm concerned it's all a massive cope.
I don't say any of this to be mean, I say it because it's the truth. Christianity has been an achilles heel for europeans for centuries and the sooner we return to our native religions that our ancestors spent thousands of years adapting to our culture and perspective on the world the better.
This does not mean abandoning god. God still exists. It also doesn't mean abandoning your morals or ethics or natural law, those still exist too. Neoplatonism and other late classical philosophical movements are the bedrock european christianity was built on.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:55:22 ago (+5/-2)
^ This.
Christcucks are spiritual traitors to a white ethnostate.
[ + ] _Obrez
[ - ] _Obrez 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:14:47 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:31:36 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:42:54 ago (+1/-0)
The actual argument is that there was no Europe at that point. Too many people at this site seem to retroproject the notion of Europe far too deeply into the past. The Greco-Roman culture and ethos is truly Greco-Egyptian. Outside of the Roman empire were disunified tribes and clusters of barbarians.
Christianity was undeniably pivotal in creating Europe as we understand it, as a whole that we could meaningfully talk about. Talk of Europe without Christianity is meaningless.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:49:30 ago (+1/-0)
The Roman Empire, US federal government and EU are all good examples of what we need to avoid.
Somewhat. Christianity created a concept of Christendom, which was mostly but not entirely European. For example it included the levant, ethiopia, egypt and north africa.
The concept of a European people as an ethnic group mostly came in the 19th century as a product of romantic nationalism and early anthropology/linguistics. Even then it wasn't really confirmed to be a real thing until the early 20th century.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:51:26 ago (+0/-0)*
I agree with your dating in the second half of the post. My comment referenced this more vaguely, when I said that people retroproject a concept called 'Europe' into the past. I agree that this is almost certainly a product of romanticism in the late 18th and first half of the 19the centuries. We needed grand theories like 'recapitulation' in order to start tying race scientifically to land, histories and collective experiences - it's where we began to develop the early seeds of a scientific and collective ethnic phylogeny. I'm thinking now of things like 'race memory' in the literature, things picked up by Nietzsche.
I'm not arguing that every phase of Christendom was assimilable to some light-switch moment that holistically united Europe in a self-conscious way. That's poetry, if you will, but important cultural poetry, the kind that behooves us to revive it today. However, Christendom in Europe was essential to forming the relationships that would make it reasonable to view her romantically in the centuries to come; artistically, morally, theologically and intellectually, and architecturally. Hell, even militarily (see below).
On the subject of Christendom itself becoming more Eurocentric (not that this was a self-conscious movement by the peoples of Europe; rather, this is our term), Christendom did flow into multiple continents by way of Roman networks, but we cannot forget that in the course of history (marking the end of late antiquity really) we have Islam. We can't escape the Crusade's role in creating a European concept. The equation of Catholicism with the classical Roman empire stopped in the middle ages. It's not that there were not important Catholic centers that remained in the regions you mentioned, but Christendom became much more tightly bound continentally as it was pushed out by the Muslims from North Africa, Persia, the near east and most of Anatolia.
Islam helped also to create 'Christian Europe'.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:59:06 ago (+0/-0)
Christianity relates to Europe in the same way that marxism relates to Russia. Marxists are happy to use Russian nationalism to their advantage to defend the meme and help spread it, but ultimately they have no real loyalty to the Russian people and they'd happily replace them or turn on them when convenient.
Similarly christianity is happy to use Europeans as human shields when a competing meme like islam threatens to take over, but ultimately the goal isn't preserving European culture, it's spreading christianity. If importing a bunch of Philipinos into a European country means more christianity then they'll do it.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:32:30 ago (+0/-0)
Read the classic sources written about the Germanic peoples. The Germans weren't just some cave men. They had the highest quality bronze due to their trade routes.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:38:56 ago (+1/-1)
Exactly; the Enlightenment came when people started rejecting the degenerate machinations of The Roman Catholic Church.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:45:18 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
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[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:54:10 ago (+0/-0)
True.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:17:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] QuasiVoat
[ - ] QuasiVoat 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:39:19 ago (+0/-0)
How so?
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:08:43 ago (+1/-0)
Try refreshing the tab, opening the thread in a new tab or a new window. I oftentimes have the same problem and one of these solutions works.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:53:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] _Obrez
[ - ] _Obrez 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 04:58:41 ago (+0/-0)
The dark ages are a myth, in reality progress stalled due to the collapse of rome, teritorial conlficta that followed and primarily trade being choked by the loss of naval supremacy in the mediteranean to muslims and the silkroad falling into Muslim hands that and reccuring plagues the "dark ages" are the period in which europe deromanized but also depaganized in pursuit of this collective purpose and faith eventually bigger nations could be formed and achieve stable economics and sustainable trade relations. Which led to international scientific development and a common set of morals across europe unified the educated.
Racial equality in Christendom is a lie, God divided and set apart the races of men Himself. He demands racial separation lest we relive the tower of babel.
That said Roman Catholicism was flawed and deeply corrupt as it inherited Rome's corruptions the orthodoxy and early protestantism were vital.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:30:11 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:46:43 ago (+1/-1)*
...whoever has shall be given more and more, while whoever has nothing, even what he has will be taken away from him.
How lucky your eyes are to see and your ears are to hear! Because believe me, many prophets and upright people longed to see what you are seeing and never saw it, and longed to hear what you are hearing and never heard it.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:52:37 ago (+2/-1)
I haven't seen anything so far to contradict my current position but who knows, maybe I'm missing something. Either way getting a clearer picture coudln't hurt.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:16:42 ago (+1/-0)
I find the Andy Gaus book of particular interest because it hasn't been jewed up like other translations. Of course, I realize "this is the work of the Devil" because it doesn't conform to most mindless christcuck's (now I'm on the list) notions of what Jesus taught.
Unbeknown to most, the oldest publicly known version of the New Testament is written in Greek. Thus if you want an 'unvarnished', or pure version of the book you need to either understand Greek or get somebody to translate. I can't read Greek and was informed that Andy Gaus is an excellent translator.
I have also been studying the Gnostic texts and concepts (The Gospel of Thomas and The Gospel of Judas are good works) because I think the main teaching of The Christ is that one has to 'come to "God"' on their own path, by their own methods, and by a genuine knowing of self. By Gnosis if you will.
The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.
*First seek the Kingdom of Heaven and all things will be given to you."
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:22:42 ago (+0/-0)
I'm also open to the possibility that Jesus didn't exist, or at least not as described, and he was something of a literary fiction used by helenised jewish neoplatonists.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:54:22 ago (+0/-0)
https://files.catbox.moe/cp8yh2.pdf
You do have an open mind. It's fairly certain that Jesus didn't exist as we are led to believe. People are generally shocked or angered when I tell them this, but I always leave them with this idea: Whatever Jesus's message was it made people encountering it abandon everything they knew.
Whatever the message, it was so powerful that it was undermining the Roman Empire to such an extent that it became necessary for the jews, through Constantine, to codify it into a controlled religious institution now known as the Catholic Church. Moreover, all those claiming to be followers of Christ, but not conforming to the new official religion were systematically hunted down and murdered.
Imagine what you would have to experience to make you completely abandon your life as you now know it.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:04:15 ago (+0/-0)
I don't think that's too hard to imagine. I live in a very globohomo country, I want out.
People living in the empire were experiencing similar conditions. Multiculturalism, hyperinflation, plagues, food shortages, obnoxious authoritarianism, predatory lenders, centralised compulsory blasphemy etc.
It makes complete sense for transcendental cults to start popping up under those circumstances. "Life as they knew it," didn't hold much attraction.
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[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:00:05 ago (+2/-1)
“I can’t at present give them the answer they’ve been asking for,” Hitler said. “The time will come when I’ll settle my account with them. They’ll hear from me all right.” ~ Hitler
Hitler would sort out the spiritual jews rights after he found a solution to permanently remove the genetic jews.
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[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:36:10 ago (+4/-1)
I wonder, where are the 1,000-yr old remnants of a high pagan civilizations other than in southern Europe and the Mediterranean? The only relevant pagan civilizations to later European culture were the Greeks and Romans, and Catholicism assimilated all that was good from these (other than being a little too light on its reliance on Plato).
The Christ concept is important to Neoplatonic Christianity. Crucial.
I think our strategy should not be to do away with Christianity, but to teach people about Judaism. The problem here, among Christians in the west, is very poor understanding of what Judaism is. A Christian need not - and should not - equate chosen people with today's so-called Jews, especially the eastern European variety.
I have yet to be given a solid argument that Christianity essentially contains worship/praise of people who could be identified with modern Jewry.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:46:20 ago (+2/-1)
False. We were producing amazing art and architecture before christianity. I see no reason we wouldn't have continued without it.
I can't speak for anyone else. Personally I'm sad that incredible european accomplishments are being torn down or upstaged, even if they were originally created in the service of a parasitic culture.
That's absolutely false, have you never been to a museum? I'm kinda getting the feeling here that your history curriculum didn't cover anything outside of Greece and Rome.
The majority of prechristian buildings are located in Greece and Italy, because those were the centers of stoneworking culture in europe. That doesn't mean other european cultures weren't producing impressive buildings, it means they were doing so in wood.
There's also the question of whether the greatness of a civilisation should be measured in how big their buildings are. If so then the greatest civilisation in history is jewish globalism.
What is neoplatonic christianity? Neoplatonism is already a complete philosophy without christianity, christianity is ontologically downstream.
This is where we start having to do handstands to get around the cognative dissonance. What would it take for you to admit that maybe, just maybe, jews were always like this and maybe we shouldn't be taking their book as a religious authority?
Even if that is a false interpretation of the bible though, it's still an interpretation that keeps cropping up again and again, century after century, culture after culture. People read the bible and conclude "oh hey, god loves the jews, it says so in this book they wrote, we should invite them in and see if they want to join our religion."
I see no reason to believe this pattern is going to change. Even if we expel the jews from every european country they'll be back again in a few generations if we keep their book.
Oh come on, the bible is full of it. The "jews aren't jews" argument is wafer thin.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 22:13:28 ago (+1/-1)
I've not seen evidence of this. Are you inferring this from the presence of this art later on? The majority of pagan art I've seen does not even date before the accepted end of classical antiquity. We're talking from the 700s onward. I've seen beautiful Viking art, for example, but again, it's all well after the ancient period had ended. In terms of literature, you don't even have the Eddur until the middle ages. This wouldn't be a problem if these people hadn't had pre-literary culture for thousands of years.
It's typically a bad sign if a population cannot, in the same amount of time as others, develop lasting architecture and writing.
I don't deny that European cultures built some beautiful wood structures, but I think your critique here is a little misplaced. I don't require having a bias toward Greco-Roman civilization to point out that most of the world's major civilizations developed stone monuments, especially of ritual centers like temples. Most of the world's advanced civilizations in antiquity transmitted something architectural through time, and that's everywhere in the world. It's also relevant that the most beautiful stone architecture of the gothic period is in the middle ages when Catholicism predominated in France and England. The earliest Gothic was cathedrals! Look at Bayeux.
And the pagans before them could not do what civilizations around the world could?
Neoplatonic Christianity is just a redundancy. Christianity just is Platonic. It is the consummation of that pagan religion. Your claim that it is downstream is false. Real Neoplatonic thought doesn't even begin until the 3rd century AD! Neoplatonism as a systematic metaphysics doesn't even start until well into the Christian epoch, and it doesn't even reach its zenith in Proclus until almost the sixth century!
These things were going on in parallel and influencing each other. I consider Platonic thought and Christian theology two parts of a parallel revelation. The Neoplatonists approached the study of the dialogues (and Homer and Hesiod) in the same way Aquinas and the scholastics would later approach reading the Bible. It was their religion. I believe both of these things were a form of providence: the Greek revelation was a revelation of reasoning and the Hebraic revelation in Christ was a revelation of faith. These came together to produce something truly new and truly unique, neither the same as the pagan or the Israelite systems prior to it.
Neoplatonism is arguably complete as a freestanding metaphysics. Augustine was probably the best commentator on this. His Confessions will explain it better than I possibly could.
It doesn't require handstands at all. It's simple. Christians believe Jewish faith ends at Torah. First, they need to know that it extends to Talmud. After that it extends to Sefer Yetzirah. After that it extends to Sefer Bahir. Afer that it extends to Sefer Ha-Zohar. People mistakenly believe that the Jewish theology of revelation is closed after the Old Testament books of the prophets, but this is factually incorrect. They consider revelation an ongoing and open channel, and the Kabbalistic books are canonical. Rabbinic Judaism is NOT what people think the Israelite religion of the Old Testament is. They are not the same thing. They are categorically different.
That simple realization is all it will take. Today's Jews are not the 'Jews' of the OT. This can be clearly shown by someone with even moderate familiarity with Kabbalah and its history.
It really isn't.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 23:46:13 ago (+1/-1)
Norse iron age art was a development of a central european style they inherited from the celts, and ultimately from the scythians. Survive the Jive has a good video on it, although he downplays the celtic connection more than I think he should have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmN4iiVKfa4
Either way the style is prechristian.
I was referring more generally to architecture. Surviving spar churches in scandinavia are christian buildings, but they're clearly a continuation of a much older style of building. Similar churches and other buildings exist in russia.
Celtic oppidae were also very impressive for their time, easily comparable with any Roman town.
Your reasoning is circular. We think of those civilisations as great because their buildings survived into our period. If that's your metric then great = lived somewhere with more rocks than trees.
If you saw a carpenter crafting an ornately carved door lintel, then you saw a mason carving one, would you immediately say "the mason is better"? Of course you wouldn't. And yet that's exactly how some people approach archeology.
Nope. The fact that neoplatonism rose while christianity existed but had not yet achieved monopoly does not mean that they drew from it. The relationship is entirely the other way around.
I am well aware that augustine ditched neoplatonism in favour of christianity. I'm also aware that he argued for tolerance of jews. He's one of the prime culprits.
The old testament is full of jews doing jewey shit to everyone around them. And that's after they'd editorialised it to make themselves seem less evil. It doesn't matter if the talmud was still an oral tradition back then, the torah is almost as bad.
That foul book has no business being taught to european children.
It really is. Christians have adopted a book, written by jews, which casts jews as the heroes. But that contradicts their real world knowledge that jews are villains.
Hence the cognative dissonance and all the crazy theories that jews all got replaced overnight, or they're not really jews or whites are jews etc.
Seriously, what would it take for you to admit that jews are jews?
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[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 08:19:36 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:29:32 ago (+0/-0)
Forget the material resources available - these vary throughout the world - and yet on every continent we have evidence for a kind of 'phase of civilization' in which at some point in antiquity, major civilizations build megalithic structures. We don't need to specify only megalithic: we could also specify form and function considerations, like ornate architecture for entertainment at the Colosseum, or the aqueducts.
The resource availability is not the most relevant fact, for we know that peoples in northern Europe did have stone available and some structures were built with it. It has more to do with what the architecture evidences about the psychological development of the group. Each major civilization passes through this phase of attempting to establish 'heaven' on earth, expressed in practical terms as setting down an eternal home symbolized by giant stone structures. The tendency toward only building things with more fallible materials is evidence of constant movement (or at least more regular movement), which is a sign of primitivity (generally speaking).
If the northern Europeans had demonstrated this at some point in their history, I'd not be making the claim. Even if they had, and then moved away from such settlement strategies and showed some intellectual development favoring greater mobility (hell, environmental concerns if you will), then I'd not be making the claim. Instead, it's that you don't see any of those developments, and when the evidence for higher culture does pop up, it's very late. Not only that, it is relatively short-lived, and does not seem to survive the middle ages with the rise of Abrahamic domination of the world order.
As a woodworker myself, I totally appreciate the use of wood that is both functional and beautiful. I prefer wood building to stone. This is not a value statement I'm making against wood, but rather what these kinds of phases demonstrate about the people itself across the centuries.
I won't deny that Christianity felt the influence of Platonism more than it made Platonism feel its influence. However, I also think it is absurd to think that late Neoplatonism was not influenced by Christianity whatsoever. In three centuries, there is no way the Platonic tradition could not be 'touched'. You see a heavier tendency in thinkers like Proclus to use personified terms in his divine hierarchy than in the early or middle Platonists. There really can't be doubt, since this feature is not a part of Aristotelianism or Platonism or Stoicism, that it was a Christian influence. God becomes something which desires, which thinks, which wills. You need only go to the gospels, to see that this is a theological trend that came into Platonism.
On Augustine, I'm not sure what his tolerance amounts to besides not killing Jews. He seems to think their errors are the blessings of the gentiles. I'm not unaware of how this could be depicted as manipulative language.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:48:38 ago (+0/-0)
Yes, we have more art preserved from the christian era, just as we have more iron-age art than bronze age art and more bronze age art than neolithic art.
All of those art styles are prechristian though, and the artifacts are prior to christianity becoming mainstream in scandinavia.
No? The celtic oppidae I mentioned date back to the bronze age (at least). Spar churches are medieval but are based on prechristian architectural styles. The fact that christians tended to replace/commandeer pagan temples isn't proof pagans couldn't build temples.
I also questioned the value of judging the "greatness" of a civilisation by the size of their buildings. As I said before that leaves us with the inevitably conclusion that atheist globalism is greater than christianity, since christians never made 200 story skyscrapers.
You say to forget the material resources, and yet you immediately propose "megalithic" (large stone) construction to be the metric of civilisation. As I said I reject that measure, both because the size of buildings is not a good indicator of how functional a civilisation is and because wooden and earthen buildings can be just as functional, if not as long lasting. For example, large sections of the great wall of china are rammed earth, not megaliths.
Plenty of aqueducts were constructed by prechristian romans, along with other water storage systems. The gauls and britons also had fairly advanced mines with a great deal of modern features. They were initially assumed to be Roman because of their complexity but carbon dating later proved this false. Roman roads and towns were also often built over preexisting celtic ones.
As for ornateness... what possible reason could you have to assume their buildings weren't ornate? Every other part of their material culture that survived was ornate, I find it unlikely their buildings were an exception.
You're reading way too much into it. Southern european cultures built in stone because they didn't have as much wood available. Same reason modern american houses are typically timber framed whereas european ones are more likely to be brick or concrete. When wood is plentiful it's a cheap and versitile construction material, when it's not people have to resort to more labour intensive options. Most insulae the romans built weren't expected to be a "heaven on earth" or an "eternal home." They were built from bricks because bricks were cheaper than wood. Very very few structures were "megalithic" as you put it.
See above. Even today swedes are more likely to build with wood than stone, even though we live in a modern economy with plenty of concrete and bricks. There's just too much wood available to motivate a push for anything else. Same goes in the Baltic countries.
The same is not true in Ireland or Spain where the forests have been depleted. It's purely economics, there isn't any basis for drawing philosophical conclusions.
They demonstrate that the Italian peninsula had a larger population for a longer period of history. Even before the aryans showed up the terramare civilisation was enormous, easily as big as anything in the fertile crescent. It also doesn't help that in more arid climates it takes much longer for forests to reestablish themselves.
There's also a trend in scandinavia that woodworking techniques over time are adapted to working with smaller and smaller trees. The really enormous longships of the viking era were built with absolutely tiny trees compared to their ancestors which could be built with 4-6 strakes.
I'm sure it was influenced to some degree but nonetheless neoplatonism (or arguably just plain "platonism") was born without any need for christianity and would have kept developing without it. Probably with more success without the attacks it received once christians got more comfortable.
I don't think he was manipulative, just naive and far too tolerant.
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[ - ] x0x7 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:09:14 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:16:07 ago (+1/-1)
But ok, let's say the jews are the synagogue of satan. Why would we want white children to spend so much time, energy and emotional commitment to learning about the history of such an evil people. The average white kid can tell you more about noah then he can about Widukind or Cú Chullain. That is wrong.
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[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:27:44 ago (+1/-1)*
What's really shocking is that they let Jews read it. But I guess they have the Talmud to tell them that when they are a piece of shit it's ok.
Also, I don't see any Synagog of Satan in there. So the bible also teaches against hypocrisy. Cool. It teaching against hypocrisy is not mutually exclusive with being very consistently against rabbinical judaism.
Also, did you know that Scandinavians were very very receptive to Christianity. They were instant zealots. If you believe Scandinavians to be among the most honest people on the planet with a high affinity for truth (I do), why were they so warm to the truth of Christianity. You say that Christianity isn't Scandinavian and so can't be the truth. But my Scandinavian ancestors would disagree.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:37:28 ago (+2/-1)
Ok, but it's not presented as "here's this awful horrorfest of a book about some of the most evil people ever to have lived," it's presented as "here is the biblical golden age full of heroes and mighty kings." Christians aren't disgusted by the behaviour of the jews in the old testament, they find it exciting.
I quoted the text you were referring to. The bit about circumcision in the heart. It's way too vague to be considered a rejection of the jews.
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[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:40:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:44:14 ago (+1/-0)
I still say white children should be learning about the glories of their own culture first before being fed someone elses' even as a "how not to do it."
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:53:33 ago (+2/-1)
But it removes the racial supremacy aspect. Christians are God’s chosen people in Christianity. I was raised christian and we were taught jews were going to hell.
Ive got to point out here that the religion of the steppe herder was foreign and the IE invaders replaced the patrilineage of the native ‘I’ haplogroup of the WHGs and the ‘G’ haplogroup of the EEFs in western europe. Those are all our ancestors. Is that not an instance of foreign cucking?
Im pointing this out because you can’t go back far enough to find a religion thats not foreign in some way or a native regime that is not the legacy of foreign conquest. I feel that 2000 years is a long time to adapt Christianity to our culture and perspective. That is about how long the druid religion was native to Ireland.
We can accept christians without letting jews in the door. I think I could find plenty of achilles’ heels and ‘copes’ within IE paganism, because its just the nature of religions to be somewhat inconsistent.
Balkanization is our biggest problem. It is being exploited by actual jews. Our differing belief systems can co-exist within our common cause, because we have the same values.
There are lots of degenerates that call themselves pagans. There are lots of degenerates that call themselves atheists. Many of these people follow jewish culture. Isn’t this a double standard?
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:13:39 ago (+3/-1)
Not anywhere near enough. There is a common trend throughout history of Christians fanboying for jews because they're the heroes of the book they've adopted. This was not a thing before christianity.
From the perspective of the natives? Yes, absolutely. Their Y chromosome lineages were almost completely wiped out by the PIEs.
Just because our ancestors conquered europe doesn't mean we should let it happen to us.
I agree that probably eventually would happen except that christians are addicted to their jewish books. As such the core of the religion never adapts, it always remains the same. There's no reason this has to be the case, they could call a new council of nicea and recodify the bible. I gather Hitler planned to do so. But they almost certainly won't.
There's an argument that druidism is specifically native to the british isles since all the cultic centers are there and they don't seem to show up much on the continent (despite austria being ground zero for celtic culture). Even that aside though the religion of the gaels was theirs before they invaded Ireland. It might not be native to the island but it was native to the people practicing it.
History says otherwise.
I can't think of anything anywhere near as bad as adopting the ethnocentric religion of one of the most dangerous and subversive tribes on the planet.
No, it's not. Centralisation is our biggest problem. Jews are in their element when there are centralised institutions to infiltrate.
I agree, I have no problem allying with christians and I have never called for violence against them. But at the same time those structural problems still remain and we will end up fighting the same battles until they're resolved.
No. The issue is not "some degenerates call themselves christians." I'd be willing to ignore that because we live in degenerate times, degeneracy is to be expected. The issue is that christianity specifically creates a dysfunctional cultural link between europeans and jews.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:35:19 ago (+2/-1)
You’re cherrypicking. Just as easy to make the case for a trend of christians not tolerating jews.
Their. Our. The majority of our ancestry was not Yamnaya.
Roman Catholicism never focused on that shit.
I think probably the Amish are the best embodiment of white culture. They tick all my boxes. Including de-centralization. They are nothing like jews. Yet they are obsessed with a jewish book.
The megalith religion was the creation of the EEFs or EEF/WHG hybrids. The druids were an elite decended heavily from the aryan conquerors, similar to the Brahmin elites of India. They formed elite castes of priests and warriors. They took on hot local chicks for their wives. Probably polygamously. The PIE expansion seems to mirror the Islamic expansion which was driven by polygyny (ie- the scarcity of available wives driving more conquests.) I would bet that becoming a druid was based on IE ancestry, and perhaps the elites of europe today (e.g. the Windsors) may have more heavy IE ancestry than commoners. This is still true of the Brahmins. I assume the druids simply assimilated the local holy places into their religion, similar to how christians repurposed pagan temples and muslims build on top of hindu, christian and jewish ones.
There are patterns of conquest that are seen over and over and over. If we can see past the partisanship of the latest conquests to what is truly “us”, we can stop the cycle of insanity. Its all inefficient as hell.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:28:54 ago (+1/-1)
No I'm not. Before christianity came along no europeans were hemming and hawing over whether jews should be given special rights or not, they were just another foreign tribe we were free to deal with or not as it pleased us. Christianity gives jews a unique position in europe as the original heroes of our primary cultural touchstone, there was no jewish question before christianity.
All humans are a mix of different genetic and cultural lineages, but indo-european genetics and culture are by far the strongest signal in modern ethnic europeans.
Are you kidding? They read a passage from the old testament every single sunday at the pulpit.
I greatly admire the amish, but they're very much an exception when it comes to christianity. Just because one christian denomination has bucked the multicultural globalist trend doesn't mean christianity is naturally inclined that way.
Aryans yes, gaels or celts, not necessarily. Like I said, celtic culture seems to have been heavily centered in central europe, whereas druidism seems to be heavily centered in the british isles. That suggests the gaels at least partially absorbed the existing aryan bell-beaker religion when they invaded.
There's also some evidence that the priesthood of the megalithic people persisted in britain and ireland for quite a few generations after the bell beaker conquest: Remains have been found of very pure blooded WHG with dark skin and blue eyes in the west of Ireland. Their joints suggested they did not participate in heavy manual labour and their genetics revealed an inbred family tree. That typically occurs in royal bloodlines where they're trying to preserve specific traits and lineages.
Either way, I'll take a pre-PIE or PIE religious heritage over a semetic one any day of the week. Jews already have way too much presence in our culture, we need to be taking as much ground from them as possible.
What are you suggesting exactly?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 18:54:14 ago (+0/-0)*
I expect we could argue this until the cows come home. They do have a special place in christianity as the heritage of jesus and as the betrayers of him. So I just dont see european christians as the fanboys of judaism that you do. I hardly ever heard OT sermons in my RC church. Alot of RC teachings weren’t anywhere in the bible. They developed a science of salvation that was based on logos and natural law as much as the gospels. RC was steeped in roman ritual and nobody save a few monks had any idea what was in the old or new testaments until the printing press.
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You are somewhere in that red circle. I believe the yamnaya are a mix of Caucasus hunter gatherer and Eastern Hunter gatherer. I think EHG are a mix of ANE and WHG. EEFs are a mix of Anatolians and WHG. North west europe in particular has high WHG. WHG haplogroup I is the most frequent haplogroup in scandinavia and the balkans.
The puritans. The quakers. The cathars. The calvinists/predestinationists (you have no hope in getting to heaven unless you’re scottish.) Martin Luther despised the jews. The point is, there are/were many “based” movements, even specifically anti-jewish movements, in christianity.
Okay Ive been playing pretty fast and loose with my terminology. Celtic culture is associated with a yamnaya-like bell beaker/halstatt group in central europe at the end of the bronze age/ start of the iron age. These people likely spoke a proto-celtic language and it turns out they were already fairly mixed with EEF/WHG. They undergo a huge expansion period, engulfing lands from turkey to ireland and spain. I imagine the language and religious cultures are fairly consistent within that area, particularly among the “p-celts”. Multiple sources from antiquity assert there are druids in Gaul and other parts of central europe. Yes I think this was a sacrifice culture, a human sacrifice culture, and I think all the IE spin off religions were. There are common elements of human sacrifice in the myths and common IE words for sacrifice.
I am less confident about the homogeneity of this group genetically. There are multiple groups of steppe hybrids running around. Were the Celts the first people of steppe descent to hit the British Isles? I don’t really know.
But I think its likely that the druids come from the same tradition as the brahmins, and that the elite castes were more heavily descended from steppe ancestry and slowly assimilated to the point that they were indistinguishable from the commoners, at least phenotypically.
Im very skeptical of these assertions of WHG as blue-eyed shitskins. Their model for predicting skin color is shakey, I feel. And then when you query what their prediction of Yamnaya phenotype is, they don’t think those people were light skinned/haired either. So the question is, where the fuck did all this light skin and hair come from? They don’t want to say, because then fair skinned light haired whites would form an attachment or something, and we can’t have that. So no, we all come from blue eyed niggers who magically became white 30 minutes ago. Color me dubious. But not dubh. Oh god Im corny.
Im suggesting that we all marry jews. No, psych. Lol.
I think there is a cycle in which self sufficient people evolve and then opportunists invade from somewhere else (or even may arise from the population itself) to live off them, and eventually mix with them, destroying the genetic signal for efficiency/productivity. Sometimes this happens in the form of polygynous invaders, who come for land and women and slave labor. There’s genetic evidence of this happening over and over. Polygamy causes males to become expansionist and tyrrannical, and its a totally inefficient allocation of resources. Its dysgenic imo, but we keep doing it over and over. White men are doing it to other white men, often.
If we can understand the mechanisms through which evolution works on our genetics, causing one group to exploit another, then we can avoid making certain errors and engineer a more stable society genetically. A more advanced human civilization is one that is not just made up of smarter individuals but more honest ones. We are at once independent information processors and a distributed system of information processing. That is what a society is. What is the point if you use your intelligence to deceive others? If our goal is to transcend animals and comprehend our place in the universe, its not desireable. If we are just clever animals tricking each other to win a sexual competition, then the wars and lies and tyrannies will cycle endlessly. Exploitation of other groups or individuals, either through violence or deception, is simply the sexual competition of animals. Jews deceive, niggers kill. We can perhaps control or minimize sexual competition within our own society to eliminate deception and corruption, which are just inefficiencies. The amish may worship a jew, but they have inadvertantly engineered a good population for these purposes: self sufficient, egalitarian, low in corruption.
You may be over-romanticizing the pre-christian era imo just as the christians over romanticize theirs. Some people here seem to have arrived at some moral truths through a religion founded by jews. Others here found the same truths through a path which rejected jewish influence. All I can say is I think its more complicated than either side really wants to accept.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 00:46:37 ago (+0/-0)
Yes. The jews have a special place in christianity and therefore any christian nation. This is a completely unnatural state of affairs. No nation should be adopting a foreign mythology and recognising it's heirs as special. It's begging to be taken advantage of.
Even the christians who claim to hate jews (like Augustine of hippo) still argue their presence should be tolerated in christian countries, because there might be an opportunity to create more christians.
There's even a guy in this very thread (PS) arguing that the presence of jews simply isn't a problem provided we have catholicism. We can fix them all with magic words by converting them!
At this point I fucking give up. Guys like that believe their meme is right, everything else is wrong and that's all there is to it. No amount of evidence or reality slapping them in the face will change their opinion.
Not sermons, readings. The first reading (liturgy of the word) is usually from the old testament.
I fully recognise that christian scholars developed all kinds of interesting philosophical ideas. The problem is that they are all hitched to that one book which is given a place of prime importance.
The cathars weren't christian, or at least so far from the christians that caused all the problems that it's a bit misleading to give them the same name.
As for the rest, they're still bringing the book along for the ride. Even if they don't currently have any dealings with the jews, the book still gives jews a prime place in their education. It's only a matter of time before one of them decides the jews were great and decides to bring a few of them over to visit.
There were druids in Gaul but their cultic centers were in britain and Ireland and that's where they went to study. If druidism were an original celtic institution then why wouldn't the cultic centers be in the alps somewhere? Or bohemia? Either way it's an indo-european practice so it's not particularly important.
I won't get into human sacrifice here. It's toof ar off topic.
XD I love a good pun. Maith oraibh a scoláire.
Dark skin, not black skin. Either way it doesn't matter, the point is there were still bits of the megalithic religion hanging around.
Ok, well, the first stop in disincentivising deceptive forms of competition is cutting off the deceptive ones and anything they can use to gain a foothold.
I'm not saying the prechristian era was perfect by any means, I'm just recognising that one of the basic things they got right was telling children stories about their own people, so they grow up with an ingroup preference. Not some dangerously masochistic outgroup preference.
Some christians have rejected jewish influence but they won't reject the jewish book. So the book sticks around generation after generation until someone suceptible reads it and suddenly the jews are a problem again.
We don't have this recurring problem with any other culture because we don't have their oral history in our kids' heads.
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[ + ] Trumpman1488
[ - ] Trumpman1488 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:02:49 ago (+1/-0)
Right you are, Postwall!
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[ - ] QuasiVoat -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:31:02 ago (+0/-1)
That's really interesting; i'd never thought about it like that,but it's exactly true.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:48:17 ago (+1/-1)
We've done that except with jews.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 7 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:20:14 ago (+14/-7)
All Christains must do what Jesus commands them to do. Thus, they are all Cucks in Christ.
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[ - ] Partofthepsyop 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:11:43 ago (+1/-1)
The underlying mentality is the same: to hold on to base values even into fear and vanity. If Christ wants to fuck your wife or if the Father wanted you dead, it's going to happen by definition, and you can't stop it. You can either accept it and try to learn from it, or you can adopt the loser mentality and cry about how Hitler and his Vriil magicians should have triumphed or hid you in the Hollow Earth.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:18:59 ago (+0/-0)
Man, you packed a punch with that statement.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:18:21 ago (+0/-0)
Never trust a Christ-Cuck.
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[ + ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot
[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot -2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:12:08 ago (+0/-2)
Christians should be forced to live among and pay for the consequences of their weak faggotry, then I wouldn't care what the fuck those losers think.
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[ - ] MuricaPersonified -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:40:50 ago (+0/-1)
I generally don't give a shit about what people believe unless it explicitly disrupts society as a whole or is a negative influence in a community. Within those parameters, there are definitely some users here who are bonafide christcucks.
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[ - ] con77 6 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:00:37 ago (+6/-0)
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[ - ] Broc_Liath -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:28:55 ago (+0/-1)
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[ - ] NedsHead 5 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:16:12 ago (+9/-4)
Ergo- Christcuck
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[ - ] Reawakened 5 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 02:37:52 ago (+9/-4)
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[ + ] _Obrez
[ - ] _Obrez 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:19:34 ago (+3/-0)
People who say Christcuck don't offend me they offend our union to defeat the kikes.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:34:55 ago (+1/-1)
In my ideal world whites will nope out of globohomo en masse and form their own communities. Some of those will be pagan, some christian, some other, and that's fine.
The issue I see is a long term one: The same memes present in christianity which caused whites to be receptive to multiculturalism and jewish subversion in the first place will be there. Five to ten generations down the line I see us fighting the same battles.
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[ - ] shitface9000 5 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:43:46 ago (+8/-3)
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[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:39:24 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:43:58 ago (+3/-3)
Wake the fuck up. If you think jews only infiltrated government, academia, and media, you are an absolute retard. Religion is the biggest and easiest control mechanism. It was the first thing they infiltrated.
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[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:39:52 ago (+2/-3)
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[ + ] _Obrez
[ - ] _Obrez 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:09:27 ago (+4/-1)
It means that christian values have cuckolded you, robbed you of your rights by natural law.
As a christian I spit on any faggots who use this language to cajole or malign our character. It is counter productive, the non christians in our movement using it are either subversive kikes or deluded by subversive kikes into thinking a 2000 year old religion now indelibly bound to all european blood for a thousand years will suddenly give way to them and their disorganized basement posting.
Go back to the drawing board shit heads, you arent getting rid of christendom nor will you ever surmount us in numbers within similar movements. Ironically you will have to cooperate for us all to succeed in repelling the kikes and to cleanse the kiked.
If you stopped being such pouty edgy atheist boys with your fake ass dead pagan bullshit you would see christian europe built itself to greatness and conquered the world, pagan europe made endless brothers wars that kept our people so weak and isolated we couldn't resist rome, the mongols or the persians. Reality check: odin sucks the cocks of dead men for magical sustenance, Christ beats jews with whips and destroys their user schemes to their face in their own God's temple and tells them their God has sent Him because He is abandoning them.
Christ as concept and being is the most offensive thing to Jews, living proof God disowns them and revokes their chosen status.
Almost Christ's entire time on earth was spent criticizing rabbinical judaism (the pharisees and sadducees)
Some of our best equiped and most informed ancient criticisms of jews and you refuse to employ it (Christian scripture) because you don't want to share the movement with the Christians it would convince to our cause.
People who use christcuck as a blanket pejorative don't want to defeat the jews or their plans for domination they just want a hugbox for purity spiralling LARPagans to virtue signal how much they hate everything that the jews have ever come into contact with.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:26:10 ago (+2/-1)
Jews are narcissists. They despise the people they manipulate and use even as they do it. Just because they consider something beneath them isn't proof it's a threat to them. Quite the contrary.
Yes. He did has value as a reform movement within the jewish community. This makes him valuable to jews, not europeans.
Before christianity we didn't have a "jewish question." They had no special place in our world other than as a minor trading partner. There was no reason to argue for giving them special dispensation to live in our lands, practice a foreign religion or monopolise certain industries.
Christianity places their stories and mythology at the core of our culture. We're replacing our own identity with a foreign one. That is unacceptable and the only reason anyone on here does it is out of habit. If christianity were a new religion everyone on here would call it out as a jewish trick and reject it.
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[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:54:01 ago (+1/-0)*
Truth is singular. I think any intellectually honest conversation would admit that even for subjects that aren't religion or race related. The idea that truth is truth because it might aid in some race war throws any hope of truth being found out the window. Sure I'd like to win a race war, but even the pretense of wanting to find truth doesn't need to be thrown out the window because of it. The nature of truth is orthogonal to our struggles. This would be like Indians unironically believing the world is carried on a turtle not even because of their hindu religion but because it came from an ethnically Indian source. You'd have to call them out of having such a thin vale over a complete disinterest in finding truth.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:01:19 ago (+0/-1)
Thing about metaphors is that they're culturally specific. Stories and comparisons that make sense to one group of people with a particular temperment and experience won't make sense to another. This is why any religion claiming to be global and for all humanity should be treated with suspicion.
Even when they claim to be global (like Islam) they always bear a heavy cultural imprint from their originators. Ethnocentric religions on the other hand were explicitly shaped with those cultural differences in mind. Odinism was created to help the Norse people become closer to the divine, it is their religion. The Gaelic religion was created for the Gaels, the Greek religion was created for the Helenes etc.
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[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:31:34 ago (+1/-0)
Symbolism is like a finger pointing at the moon. If you focus too much on the finger you will miss all that glory that is right there for you to see.
Why did Scandinavians who had these myths take so quickly to Christianity? Maybe they saw that these truths in metaphor that they had been taught since they were kids pointed to something. The Jews also had teaching prior to Christ to help them recognize him, but because of their nature the teachings were for not. Maybe the Scandinavians having better nature were able to use their prior learning more readily.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:51:52 ago (+0/-1)
Of course, otherwise what would be the point?
Like I said, human minds are too small to take in the entirety of reality and divinity. If were weren't then we would be god and this discussion would be pointless. Any human language claiming to be the word of the divine is a lie.
That is false. They did not take to christianity quickly or without opposition. Their rulers gradually adopted christianity for political convenience and the rest of the region followed even more gradually. Kings who tried to rush the process had to back down or face being deposed.
That has been the same pattern everywhere: Christians build an army of outcasts and undersirables then parlay the power that gives them to gain control of social elites. Once they become powerbrokers they extend their influence and start stamping out opposition. Christianity didn't spread because it was some universal truth, it spread through trickery and strongarming. They had/have the exact same tactics as marxists, probably because they ultimately originate in the same ethnic group.
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[ - ] NationalSocialism 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:56:02 ago (+1/-1)
Christians don’t realize that Christianity allowed jews to establish diaspora within our countries. Like modern day orthodox judiasm, they were able to create a thriving jewish society immune to laws Christians followed. Eventually like you said, monopolizing influential industries.
Antisemitism has always been used as a weapon for jews. We know how it is beneficial for jewish hegemony today and why they fake it whenever possible. 100’s of years ago it reinforced the idea that jews needed to be segregated and ethnocentric. Although, it repeatedly lead to their expulsion from countries many times. Years later they would eventually be let back in, specifically because of biblical text.
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[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:03:50 ago (+3/-0)
This Mario looking mofo was a literal ethnic yid, national Israeli and religious heeb that was only pretending to be a Christian. All to created division amongst the userbase between critical thinkers and brain dead, jew loving, christ-cucks.
Take this kike off this based list.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:01:16 ago (+0/-0)
You call Christians kikes all the time. I would think FKH was a confirmation of all your theories: the consummate christian, jewish in body and soul. But now you’re saying he’s not a christian because he’s too jewish. I will need clarification on this. You have me so confused now.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:07:18 ago (+1/-0)
Wrong!
He was ethnically a Jew
He was nationally an Israeli
He was religiously Jewish
You are still falling for his confidence scam.
I've always said he was a jew playing the fake christuck card, all the enamor a team of fuckwits to defend his subversions as he bought up subs. What better way to get low IQ mongos to attack white nationalists, than to pretend you are a Christian?
Then users on to his machinations will be attacked by christoids for daring to piss on the jew-lite book.
Again or still, what is the correct term to use here?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:34:56 ago (+0/-0)
Ill take this as a defense of christians. You seem to be strongly objecting to any conflation of jewishness and christianity. Christians are not jews. They are two totally separate things and you can’t be both. Christians are non-jews. Gotcha.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:49:36 ago (+1/-0)
I'm getting tired of your yid games and kike defense strategy of known subversives and literal kikes on this site.
People that follow jews books think like jews, let that sink in for a second.
Thats a fucking idiot take.
The Bible is indefatigably and irrefutably based almost entirely on Jewish holy books by jews, starring jews. It is glaringly obvious even to a blind, retarded, beagle the origins of (((Christianity))) were and are jewish in nature.
Spiritual Jews, not genetic jews. Why do kikes need to launch an unwinnable hot war with Europeans two millenia ago, when they can convince Whites to fight against their own race, by making them believe a heeb origin story is about White Europeans?
If we want to fight all forms of judiasm we must also think critically and objectively about what the subversive nature of all Abrahamic faiths.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:55:12 ago (+0/-0)
Stop pretending to misunderstand my sarcasm: your arguments lack consistency. You accuse all these right wing white christians of jewishness but then you claim FKH can’t be a christian. You can’t have it both ways.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:57:39 ago (+0/-0)
Hahaha defending this literal exposed yid 100% of the time, thanks for the screencap.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:02:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:08:44 ago (+0/-0)
Talk about word games.
He is not even active here anymore and still has you convinced he was a Christian because he said so.
LOL, are you a child? Why are you so gullible?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:49:54 ago (+0/-0)
But pretend that you think that was my literal argument and not sarcasm, because your primary tactic is dishonesty.
I call them as I see them. Guys like you and dangus engage in dishonest debate tactics to mischaracterize anything that your adversary says, because you are comfortable “owning” people in such ways. You constantly sow division and contribute nothing positive to the forum. Why is this? Because you are antisocial? Or because you are something else?
FKH played these games too, but at least he posted some good content.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:36:52 ago (+9/-5)
Also, we need a list of people who use the pejorative "nigger" and "faggot".
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:28:23 ago (+2/-3)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:44:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:39:00 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:02:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:44:28 ago (+5/-2)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:02:57 ago (+5/-2)
Thanks for compiling and publishing it @Thereuntu, you might cross post it to funny as well.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:38:47 ago (+4/-0)
Quite the contrary. Look how many people came out and asked to be added to the list. Christcucks are the ones reeing that they need to even make such a list.
[ + ] dwb3
[ - ] dwb3 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:29:10 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] QuasiVoat
[ - ] QuasiVoat 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:33:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:47:46 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Trumpman1488
[ - ] Trumpman1488 -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:24:42 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] goatfugee12
[ - ] goatfugee12 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:25:10 ago (+7/-4)
[ + ] dwb3
[ - ] dwb3 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:14:41 ago (+7/-4)
add one moar
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:05:12 ago (+6/-3)
tired of the low iq mob of christians on here who just downvote any fact they don't like, just like leftists.
christians would rather burn their own blood at the stake in the name of their jewish god than unite behind a global white revolution to take down our enemy. the seething hatred protestants have for catholics whilst praising jews and every other group is so beyond pathetic. they're nothing but race traitors. they are 100% 'mindcucked' by the jew, it's become so obvious by now and it's truly embarrassing to watch them try and squirm away from all logic and reason.
[ + ] Scrimmmy
[ - ] Scrimmmy 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:42:23 ago (+6/-3)
[ + ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior
[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 04:51:39 ago (+6/-3)
Christcuck.
[ + ] QuasiVoat
[ - ] QuasiVoat 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:43:50 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:29:45 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] QuasiVoat
[ - ] QuasiVoat 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:31:44 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] NeonGreen
[ - ] NeonGreen 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:15:23 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:00:36 ago (+2/-0)*
The Jews had subverted religion sacredly given to them by an all knowing God, and turned it into a way of yielding power over other people. And Jesus called them out on it. Any one who chooses to hate Jesus is being willfully ignorant of who he was. They attack him and his apostles based on tenuous association with the very people they spoke against. It's the exact same associative thinking that makes liberals treat capitalism, racism, whiteness as the same thing. It's anti-logic.
If you are engaging in associative thinking you are not being your smartest self. Raise yourself to the level you know you are capable of.
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:26:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:33:44 ago (+0/-0)
That's fair. And I do believe in freedom of information almost more than I believe in freedom of speech, even though I believe in both absolutely. I do see a lot of people reee-ing from you posting it when it's just information.
I guess I read too much into the intent and that's my bad.
[ + ] Barfcock19
[ - ] Barfcock19 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:44:38 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Thyhorrorcosmic103
[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:20:18 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] TrannyHunter
[ - ] TrannyHunter 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:05:27 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:00:00 ago (+2/-0)
You fucking subversive jew.
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:45:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:07:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:27:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] solomonpapermaster
[ - ] solomonpapermaster 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:44:24 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:10:30 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:45:17 ago (+7/-5)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:15:51 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 20:34:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:07:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:03:08 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:59:43 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] fritz_maurentod
[ - ] fritz_maurentod 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:50:06 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:44:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:57:20 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:50:09 ago (+1/-0)
You should add an edit explaining that you did not check the context. I see someone saying they are going to block all these users.
I know you want the bullying to stop but you might have done it in a less divisive way. Or at least a more accurate one. If Im an anti-christcuck, what the fuck have I been fighting with Doug about for the last 6 months?
[ + ] Boyakasha
[ - ] Boyakasha 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:37:51 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 17:36:39 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Hermes
[ - ] Hermes 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:08:33 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:13:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] totes_magotes
[ - ] totes_magotes 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:10:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:50:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Llewkcor
[ - ] Llewkcor 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:37:31 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] KyleIsThisTall
[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 13:02:57 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] KingLeopold2
[ - ] KingLeopold2 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:08:05 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot
[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:05:23 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:13:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ButtToucha9000
[ - ] ButtToucha9000 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:05:08 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:01:15 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:12:16 ago (+2/-1)
I told goodlord to come on over. So maybe a new christcuck for you to pick on.
But if I disagree with you on christcucks you go ad hominem. Instead of civilly disagreeing, you try agressive tactics to herd me into your anti-christcuck paddock. e.g. calling me a kike.
" blah blah blah christcuck" So tired of your nigger argumentation.
Is this the part where you call me a christcuck?
I have seen some christians calling pagans and atheists names as well. We can express our differences without harrassment. Conservative whites must unite. Its incredibly demoralizing to receive hate from within our own group for holding conservative values. We came to this place by different paths. We agree on so much. Lets focus on that.
We celebrated Hitler’s B-day 2 days ago. He would not want this sort of division.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:47:20 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] ThisGuy
[ - ] ThisGuy 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:54:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:52:35 ago (+2/-1)
Also rename it the critical thinkers list.
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:37:58 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 10:13:30 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:35:36 ago (+4/-3)
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:37:45 ago (+7/-6)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:46:11 ago (+5/-1)
Think about how jewy that is. The jews didn't just create their own afterlife myth and push it on others - they also took existing afterlife myths and made them into pejoratives. They named their bad afterlife Hell after the goddess Hel in order to make the beliefs of your ancestors seem bad. They couldn't just have their own religion, they had to subvert and destroy every other religion.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:01:44 ago (+3/-1)
Christianity literally headhunted pagan religious sites to erect Christian temples to replace them with and even added in pagan naturalis such as water symbolism to better attract adherants to the new jew based faith.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:52:34 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:56:22 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:36:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:08:28 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:53:05 ago (+2/-2)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 02:54:26 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ]deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:51:29 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:41:05 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:34:39 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:19:38 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:42:52 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:36:59 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] RomanSalute
[ - ] RomanSalute 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 00:56:50 ago (+8/-7)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:52:56 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] diggernicks
[ - ] diggernicks 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 21:42:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 19:06:58 ago (+0/-0)
Even where I use it, I almost never use it to refer to Christians as a whole, as there are many Christians that I respect, and a lot more among the most common alternative religious statuses who I despise.
[ + ] meffmouff
[ - ] meffmouff 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:03:47 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:45:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] random
[ - ] random 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:34:20 ago (+0/-0)
"Oy vey! Yes vorship one of us as if he vas a god, not as a dirty criminal going against Europe and Rome! MUH HOLOCAUST ROME KILLED 45 TRILLION! Stupid goyim."
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:09:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Roy_Batty
[ - ] Roy_Batty 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:10:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:18:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:09:39 ago (+0/-0)
Christ Cuck
[ + ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot
[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:05:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] MasterSuppressionTechnique
[ - ] MasterSuppressionTechnique 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:59:55 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] GoldenAgeWhen
[ - ] GoldenAgeWhen 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:39:51 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:46:56 ago (+3/-3)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:31:14 ago (+5/-5)
I do not support creating lists for brigading users because of their beliefs.
This is supposed to be a freedom of speech site.
Doing this type of action contradicts the essence of the site and is hypocritical to say the least.
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:55:18 ago (+5/-1)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:38:01 ago (+3/-2)
Apply persecution tactics because they do not believe in God and blaspheme against Jesus?
We are not here to persecute anybody. We are here to share testimony of God's Word and how it served our lives.
If they want to blaspheme against Christ and mock His followers, that is between them and God. We have no business doing this.
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:00:16 ago (+1/-0)
"He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, is fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but the good to do wrong." St. John Chrysostom
“But, when necessity compels, not those only who are invested with power of rule are bound to safeguard the integrity of faith, but, as St. Thomas maintains: ‘Each one is under obligation to show forth his faith, either to instruct and encourage others of the faithful, or to repel the attacks of unbelievers.’”
Pope Leo XIII
"Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X
"The greatest obstacle in the apostolate of the Church is the timidity or rather the cowardice of the faithful."
-Pope St. Pius X
"Liberal Catholics are the worst enemies of the Church"
-Blessed Piux IX
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar -1 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:17:01 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:07:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 14:29:24 ago (+0/-0)*
You stated before that you simply created a list and that was it. What was the purpose of creating this list if not looking to persecute their beliefs - as wrong as it may be? You look to get support from people that believe in God or in the case of catholics - that say they believe in God, but really not, they believe in their church - a church of perdition (A topic for another time).
The purpose of creating a list is to brigade, plain and simple. You are being purposely dishonest when saying you had no ulterior motive.
Regarding the fact that the blasphemers of Jesus Christ persecute my Brethren in Christ is not under discussion. It is foretold in the Word of God, we were told this to NOT GET OFFENDED. Might want to read a bit more on that. Additionally we were told to rejoice in persecution and tribulation because that proves that we are in fact right in our cause with the Lord.
I do not agree with it if you need me to be more blunt about it. I obviously know that is in fact another way to attack my Brethren in Christ but we are not here to start a persecution on this site and certainly you will not help the cause of Christ by playing the same tactics as they do.
Regarding the quotations he provided from false prophets that were brought by the whore of the Revelations, I make heed of no false prophets nor false doctrines for they DO NOT preach what Christ preached. They preach what their so-called church thought them to preach and they will meet their judgement with God alone.
I am not going to put judgement on them because I have no power in doing so, for I also have sinned as we all have, but I will rebuke them and move on. Do you really think I am going to spend time in searching for those that believe the foul doctrine of catholicism that hunted and persecuted Believers in Jesus Christ because they knew that we were not to trust in the church as an institution but as a way of life?
Are you really that naive?
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 15:16:13 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 21:20:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 15:43:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:06:31 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:24:08 ago (+0/-0)
But should we act as you do? No, using the same divisive tools of the synagogue of satan is falling in the game of the spirit of the enemy...
Doing this just shows spiritual weakness because if you are of the Spirit, you rebuke and move on. Not persecute.
And if we all promote freedom of speech, then we take the good and the bad with it and face it, not censor it or brigade it.
I will always oppose behaving like the synagogue and their stooges...
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:05:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar -1 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 11:15:23 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 21:25:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:33:54 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 12:58:31 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:17:56 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] sguevar
[ - ] sguevar 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:49:38 ago (+0/-0)
Indeed.
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:53:47 ago (+1/-2)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 -1 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 19:36:39 ago (+0/-1)
You worship the god of the jews.
[ + ] DonaldJTrump
[ - ] DonaldJTrump -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:08:50 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:10:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] taoV
[ - ] taoV -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:10:06 ago (+1/-2)
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[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 12:25:03 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] taoV
[ - ] taoV 1 point 2 yearsApr 23, 2022 13:59:12 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:33:14 ago (+3/-4)
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 03:56:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:00:50 ago (+4/-3)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 13:11:28 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism -2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:26:55 ago (+6/-8)
https://files.catbox.moe/ikg7ey.jpeg
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:42:09 ago (+7/-5)
[ + ] Monica
[ - ] Monica 6 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:42:10 ago (+8/-2)
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:46:49 ago (+4/-3)
the scofield bible is an "update" if you wanna split hairs.
OTOH the KJV was the target of the Nov. 5 Gunpowder Plot, which would have annihilated the KJV translation of the bible. Pretty significant event in history that is conveniently glossed over.
The fact that you're apparently not Christian is a bit sus tbh. so STFU.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 2 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:44:03 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 08:43:09 ago (+3/-2)
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[ - ] systemisseasilymanipulated 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 09:34:41 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:50:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] QuasiVoat
[ - ] QuasiVoat 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 14:35:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user [op] -3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:49:09 ago (+0/-3)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 11:39:42 ago (+0/-3)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:07:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 21:40:30 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 21:28:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 -1 points 2 yearsApr 26, 2022 19:38:48 ago (+0/-1)
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[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 -4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 01:40:16 ago (+3/-7)
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 02:24:15 ago (+8/-5)
That's some jewish schizophrenia if I've ever seen it. Anyways, go ahead and try faggot.
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 -4 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 05:42:27 ago (+1/-5)
[ + ] didyouknow
[ - ] didyouknow 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 06:26:32 ago (+6/-3)
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[ + ] didyouknow
[ - ] didyouknow -1 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 16:52:13 ago (+1/-2)*
Yahweh is the jew god of the Old Testament, Jesus claimed that Yahweh was his father and claimed that he was from the seed of David. Jesus went to the temple or the nearest synagogue every shabbat and he preached in the temple and in the synagogues. That's why he was also called a Rabbi. All of his disciples were jewish and they went to the Temple court daily even after Jesus death meaning that they still remained as jews despite being a disciple of Jesus for 3 years, what does that tell us about Jesus and his teachings? Jesus NEVER preached to gentiles with the intent of recruiting them. In fact, Jesus looked down upon non-jews and considered them as dogs and would only acknowledge them if the non-jews acknowledged themselves as dogs and Jesus as their master (see Matthew 15: 21-28). Christianity in the very beginning was a religion for jews by jews and Jesus made that clear as he himself said that he came only for the lost sheep of Israel.
And this verse from JOHN 4:22
''You Samaritans worship what you do not know. We worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews.''
Christianity was later modified by Paul to make it more appealing to Gentiles.
[ + ] account deleted by user
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[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 3 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 07:42:39 ago (+5/-2)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 22, 2022 10:42:31 ago (+0/-0)