I already know my son’s dad was an idiot (yes, he’s a good dad and very much so in his life, we were just VERY different people, as you’ll understand) but this one takes the cake. He is a painfully retarded virtue signaler and should be a politician, to be quite honest (he has that kind of vibe—painfully fake and formal). I pulled up to get my son today for Easter Sunday (his weekend, my year for the holiday) and see a very large Ukrainian flag flying from his garage 🤦🏻♀️ When my son got in the car I politely asked him if his stepmom was Ukrainian. He seriously took my son to a BLM March in the summer of 2020, and I lost my shit. He got him vaccinated without asking me (and my son wanted it). Bottom line, goats—he keeps doing terrible, fucked up things to my son. Period. What should I do? My kid is a teenager and loves his dad so much. It sucks, because this is the time in his life he needs his dad the most, and his dad is an NPC. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Break his programming, get him to start questioning things by using hypocrisy.
If he thinks abortion is good, tell him one of your racist co-workers loves abortion because blacks, browns and liberals are the only ones who get abortions. Tell him you hope he isn't a racist like your co-worker. Then when he REEEE's about not being racist, get him to explain why he likes abortion knowing that almost exclusively black, brown and liberals are the only ones getting abortions.
Ask him his thoughts on immigration, then say that the same racist co-worker loves immigration because it fucks over 3rd world countries because US immigration steals the best and brightest from the 3rd world. Then show him this video that your racist co-worker kept talking about, https://youtu.be/l6tSqGCfoCI
Regarding Ukraine, explain as well that your racist co-worker completely supports Ukraine because of their active support of National Socialism. Tell him you argued with your co-worker and started learning more about WW2 to counter his racist arguments. My personal path to enlightenment started by watching unbiased documentaries about WW2, the more I learned, the more I began to question things. Get quotes from Mein Kompf and point out how wrong Hitler was wrong when he said things like America would turn into a shithole the less white it got or any of the other predictions Hitler had that ALL came true.
Knowledge is the jews greatest fear. The jews see themselves as gods among men and the jews only rule is not to eat from the tree of knowledge or you will suffer eternal damnation. Literally their first lesson for the goyim in the bible is ignorance is bliss, you will own nothing and be happy.
While possible, it's unlikely everyone you know got saline. However, keep in mind that every body is different and every body will respond differently to the injection. Some people will naturally have less of a deleterious reaction than others, while some can minimize whatever negative reaction they might have if they do things to boost their immune systems. The injections are basically AIDS. The intention of the injection is to destroy the recipient's immune system, so it only makes sense to do whatever possible to boost one's immune system.
Regardless, the best you can do is prepare yourself mentally for the worst. Too many people avoid this and it only leads to greater than necessary pain and suffering. Moreover, we have entered a time of great chaos which will result in a dramatic increase in the amount of pain and suffering on this planet. Because of this it is best to build up your resiliency in order to deal with the challenges ahead.
I personally think it’s a retarded take to think that every person who gets the shot is going to drop dead. I think with all the real research out there, most people who get a terrible reaction do so within 2-3 months of the shot. I’ve also heard your immune system is fucked, right? He hasn’t been ANY different from usual. He’s gotten sick at his usual times from allergies/lung congestion and hasn’t recovered any differently from before. He’s an athlete and has had a physical since. He’s fine. Like I said, I have given him chaga and L-glutathione supplements as well and told his dad he is not getting any more injections. Maybe he’ll end up infertile or something, but I’m so tired of people pearl clutching like a) everyone is going to die and b) they have the absolute answer about these dumb vaccines. Stop acting like a fucking reverse virtue signaler. It’s the exact same behavior. How many people have YOU been around who are vaccinated? Aren’t they supposed to be “shedders”?
Truth hurts. Its a sign you're a liberal who cant handle the truth over understanding logic. Ill take friends who give me the honest truth over seething faggots.
She said it herself. Her son is doomed. Sadly I've got to agree.
There are people willing to fight for their families and their people. And then there are black pilled little bitches that make excuses for why they aren’t doing anything and try to drag everyone along with them. Who is dwb? Just another demoralizer and troublemaker. Dime a dozen around here. People shit on you in real life so you come here and try to shit on dingbat — discouraging her efforts to help her son. Fuck you shut the fuck up.
Just out of curiosity; are you a women PostWallHelena? This is not to insult you; but you seem to be coming from a female perspective that "men" do not have. We do not coddle, we do not forgive, we do not look on the bright side; that is emotional thinking and that is what you are doing. Again; no offense. Just making conversation.
Im the demoralizing trouble maker yet youre seething at me and making shit up and telling people to shut up, attempting to silence people. Im not discouraging her from helping her son. I simply agreed with the fact that I believe the vaccine alone is going to ruin his life, among countless others. Im not going to stoop to your level and be offensive, I hope you have a good night.
Friendly reminder that just because shes a woman does not mean she deserves special treatment. I try to treat mostly everyone the same, even the disabled.
I can't speak to this particular circumstance, but I can speak to how you disarm virtue signalers in general. It's up to you exactly how you say this, but you need to get two things across.
1. Everyone knows what they're doing and sees through the façade. They know you're pandering and you don't actually give a shit about ukraine/blm/thosepoorrapefugees/thinkofthechildren/whateverthecurrentthingis. 2. They think less of you for pandering. While they might applaud you to your face for repeating the approved narrative. Behind your back everyone knows your pandering, and you're just a shill for whatever NPC programming you've been given. They, correctly, see you as a weak, spineless, drone who goes along to get along. No one will respect you, no one will trust you, no one will ever expect anything of you, or for you to stand up for yourself or others.
Yes, you're "gaslighting" him, but it's for his own good. Never let on that anyone ever believes any of this bullshit. Be totally adamant that openly or secretly everyone sees through virtue signaling.
A side aspect to this is that you need to teach your son that, for a man, respect is everything. If you woman doesn't respect you, she's got one foot out the door. If your coworkers don't respect you, you'll never get a promotion. If your friends dont respect you, you'll be a laughing stock and the butt of their jokes. For a man nothing in this world matters more than respect.
Lefties hate the term virtue signaling so much. They know they're fake and being found out brings back the insecurity they paved over with those fake virtues.
forget your son's dad, don't attack him or worry about his influence. encourage your son to become his own man so that no one can influence him. correct him if he isn't acting like one. men don't mindlessly follow.
my mother was always the one to tell me short honest corrections that normies would probably convey as 'mean' but i respected her way more for doing so than my father who was always too much of a coward to say anything, especially when that should be his job as a man to do so.
The trouble here, if your son is with his father every other weekend, is that because he spends the majority of his time with you (as the parent with primary custody), the lion's share of his naturally rebellious psychology (normal for this developmental stage) will take you as the 'other' he is defining himself against.
My parents were also divorced, but this was prior to the point in time where every part of our lives was politicized. I barely knew what my father's politics were. I saw him every other weekend. I love him, but I also had a firm grip on the fact he was not a good father (in the sense of fulfilling the proper role).
When I was 16, it didn't matter. I wasn't thinking about good parents or bad parents; I was focused on myself. My dad was an alcoholic and a smoker. He played in a band. I started doing those things. Don't get the impression I 'burned out'. I had two distinct male forces in my life. My step-father-figure was the opposite kind of person. I wound up becoming the kid with a 4.0 GPA, on the football team, who drank on the weekends and who got a few MIPs his senior year while picking up a cigarette habit that would remain with him to this day.
It was a strange mixture, where the rebellious side found expression on the weekends in the off-season, more or less.
My point is that nothing rational is likely to stop your son from subconsciously 'targeting' his father, if he spends the majority of his time with you. I knew my father was no good as a parent. It didn't matter. I was emulating anything that wasn't my mother because she became the figure which defined my rebellion.
It just so happens to be that a divorced set of parents perfects this dichotomy, since the 'othered' parent is now the opposite of the custodial parent and naturally draws the rebellious teen in that direction.
There is very little you can do about this. He needs the rebellion in order to not be an NPC. But his father is an NPC.
The best advice that I could give you would be to talk to him openly about these things. Tell him what an NPC is, what you mean by it. Why his father behaves like what you're calling an NPC, why you think this is not a good alternative for your son, and why this worries you. Feature some concerns that might be relevant to a kid that age: mention how being an NPC is not actually attractive to most women, and you are worried his dad's habits could impact his future relationships or something.
There's no easy way to go about this. If your son talks to his father about your talks, you'll probably wind up in a confrontation.
It may be easiest to just take every chance you have to positively state your values - with tact - acknowledging that this is the best you can do. Let your maturing boy learn for himself. I find one mistake a lot of parents make is to try to avoid being the parent a child rebels against by becoming too buddy-buddy with the kid. He'll have more respect for you when it is all over if you don't compromise in that way, or pander. Talk about what bothers you, what you think is right. Have longform conversations with him, if and when he is tolerating it. Accept it when he rejects you, or your statement, or your viewpoint (etc.) and don't act as if it phases you at all. Be a parent a child cannot change, which is what a parent needs to be.
Parents are the rocks a child beats himself against. I know from my own experience that as I got older, I gained so much more respect for my mother. When adulthood hits, you finally see your parents through the eyes of an adult.
Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, CHIRO. You are one of my favorite users here and I always look to your comments as sage pieces of wisdom. This makes a lot of sense to me, what you’re saying.
His dad and I do a 60/40, with me having him 60% of the time. I have him more during the school year and dad more so in the summer. By the end of the summer, he’s like, “Mom, I CAN’T WAIT to come back.” The thing is, Dad doesn’t have bad intentions even though he’s an idiot. He’s kinda like Clark Griswold. Always trying to have the perfect outward appearance and perfect family, with less of the humor. He’s not an outright shitlib. He’s only doing this bullshit because of what others think about him.
I agree with you—I’m going to have to have some straightforward conversations with my son. I also have to risk him rebelling against me. The truth is more important at this point than me coddling this fucked up belief system that he’s being ingrained into. Thank you for the good words; I appreciate you.
It's very sweet of you to say all of that. I appreciate you as well, especially bringing things like this to the forum and discussing them honestly.
Best of luck with your son. Things will work out. If you notice changes in the future, update us.
For what it's worth, you do have a leg up as a woman when speaking to your son. I remember a few points from when I was younger where my mother made critical comments about my appearance or my choices. Now, I mean 'critical' in a concerned sense, not just meanness. For example, I can think of times she told me my haircut made me look stupid. Of course I didn't admit it affected me, but I did go change my haircut in short order after she talked to me about it. Did I say, "Mom, thanks for the advice!" Hell no.
But if your mother comes to you earnestly and says, "Yeah, girls aren't going to like that at all", a boy that age isn't deaf to that kind of language. You might think it's petty. To some degree it is - but we're better off using the sexual facts of life to our advantage. I think it's effective, if it's used with some discretion. Just a rhetorical tool in the belt.
I stopped and started for years. Finally devised a plan that worked. What I decided to do was smoke 24/7 for 1 month. Literally smoke myself sick. The deal was I had to mindfully smoke each one concentrating on the harm it was doing to my mouth throat lungs. The smell on my skin. I smoked rollies so it was also the yellow stains. After that month I stopped and literally became a nonsmoker. It was 5yrs ago. Now whenever I think I could just have one (most of mates smoke) I just remember the sick feeling. Worked for me where nothing else did.
I never started smoking, but my general advice for quitting bad habits is to cut them out slowly. Don't go cold turkey, pick small reasonable goals and stick to them until they're second nature. Build the small goals over time until you've reached your target.
A good example might be limiting yourself to one hour a day where you're allowed to smoke, or "only after meals". Having something to look forward to can help you stay abstinant in the short term.
Another tactic might be to limit total cigarettes in a week, so if you're really stressed you can have one or two extra, but you can't go overboard because you'll have less on the remaining days.
Have you tried the pouches? Nicotine salt, not tobacoo. If you cannot quit; use something safer. If you can and want to quit, still; use something safer until you quit.
I will look into these. I was only aware of the tobacco pouches. Thank you.
I've used the gum with some success, but the trouble with cigarettes is the entire ritual itself. The nicotine is part of it, but I really enjoy the act of smoking, even the harshness of smoke hitting my lungs.
[ - ] MrPancake 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 18:58:25 ago (+1/-0)
I don't want to shill; but I used to smoke over a pack a day. I only have a few in the morning with coffee now (ritual thing). https://www.onnicotine.com/
This reads a lot like one a them reddit shit that gets posted here. But if true, you fucked up by choosing the wrong man. Or rather your father fucked up by letting you choose a man lol weakling. Now it’s too late, you cannot influence your son now. You will only make him hate you and create a distance between you and him. Your best bet is to hope your son falls into the right kind of group. Only other teens can influence a teen with an npc weak father
Interesting you didn’t ree like Helena would have. You may very well be a better woman for having learned from your mistakes. You should try to have your son hang out with his good friend and his chad dad. That’s a small glimmer of hope there, he may start emulating him as a strong Male figurehead.
You have to learn from your mistakes and you have to admit that you made them. Your traumas are your gifts in this life. It’s all about your recovery and trying to better yourself. Luckily my son is like another son at his bff’s house. They are a very based family and am so thankful that’s a big part of my son’s world. I wasn’t able to give him all of that, which I deeply regret, but there are some amazing families that give my son the experience I would have wanted to give him myself while he’s here with me.
Just another avenue for hope btw: If you can convince your son to settle down and have grandchildren then you can always take an active role in their education and try to make sure your descendents have some chance.
The natural aim of any teenage boy is to rebel against the influence of his mother. The teenage years are the symbolic second exit from the womb. Essentially every teenage boy wants to psychologically distance himself from his mother as much as possible. So you want to raise a Goat? When he reees for Ukraine you reee for Ukraine twice as hard. When he goes to a BLM rally you suck nigger cock and tell him you’re doing your part to end white supremacy. When he gets vaxxed you get double boosted then say how you wish you could get more. Pretty soon the kid is going to shave himself a Hitler stache and be goose stepping down the street in broad daylight. Yes your sacrifice will be extreme but it is a mother’s duty to do anything she can to not raise a faggot.
Lots of good advice here. My only suggestion would be to keep your redpills gentle and use the socratic method where possible. Don't directly attack his beliefs, just introduce points that shine a light on inconsistancies and ask questions that can only be answered with contradictions.
For example, asking questions about why the flu disappeared during the lockdowns, but covid didn't, or bringing up previous lawsuits against pfizer.
Small steps . Start with suggesting that he should question whatever narrative is being pushed by the MSM / Government coalition , and make up his own mind.
Subtleness is key Best of luck , hope you can get him to at least honestly question things .
Odds are good that in the course of the indoctrination, your son’s father has used dismissal as a tool. This is usually when it comes to something like (I’m speaking generally here), say, Hitler’s speeches or actual crime stats, that sort of thing.
When you’re an NPC, the most powerful effect you subject yourself to are blinders. They flip on whenever something causes a cognitive dissonance, but the deeper you invest yourself, the more often and willingly you’ll flip them on yourself.
Your kid’s dad, for example, has no counter for a place like Voat or the contents of the talmud or the full life story of MLK or any other host of subjects. All he can do is ad hominem — “they’re racist/sexist/evil, don’t give them any attention.” With no convenient “gotcha” line to rely on, all he can do is command dismissal.
So establish a pattern with your son, something like this:
“What did your dad tell you about [topic]?” “He told me [topic] is good/bad.” “Oh. Did he tell you what [topic] is?” “No.” “I wonder why he doesn’t want you to know what [topic] is.”
“What did your dad tell you about [person]?” “He told me that [person] is good/bad.” “Oh. Did he tell you what [person] said/did/believed?” “No.” “Huh. I wonder why he doesn’t want you to know what [person] said/did/believed.”
To your son, his dad is a cool source of information and truth, because it’s easy to put on such airs when you’re operating with a deceptive framework to begin with. Your goal, therefore, is to expose this framework, which will show your son that he is either not as knowledgeable as he seems or is deliberately concealing information from him.
And of course, make it clear that you will never do this to him.
I have told my son numerous times and backed it up that I will always tell him the truth no matter what. He has definitely caught his dad in lies (dad is a consultant btw, and lies and bullshits all day for a living) so it’s little things like that that give me internal ease because I know I’m developing a good base of trust with him. I do have faith that someday he will see through dad’s bullshit. I think “poking holes” is a great technique and I have to keep at it. I have done it before but end up feeling like a bitch. I gotta get over it.
Show him the differences between left liberal girls (fat ugly tattoo piercing) and conservative girls. You don't even need to tell him anything, just show him in a natural way, find examples IRL, find an excuse to talk about one, later an excuse to talk about the other... He will put 2+2 together... And choose the correct one.. After that, you talk about what those beautiful right leaning girls like and dislike. They are feminine but not feminist. They want a respectable man. Provider. They hate soy weak men. They hate activists of blm or Ukraine. Etc. With that I believe he will start striving to the correct side. If you find IRL examples is even better. When/if his father get what you are doing he might try to brainwash your son saying women love soy / sentiment men. But as long as you keep showing examples.. You will win... Find a group of pretty right leaning girls and where they have lunch. Schedule some lunch with your boy on the table beside. He will hear what they say directly and not from you or his father. Wish you luck. Hope it helps.
Did you think to ask him WHY his loyalty was to another PLANET? Uranus is probably the GREATEST threat we face. tell your wife, she SUCKS insect balls, for taking advantage of your fuck cells (IN YOU). We KNOW how to DEAL with her type.
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:09:09 ago (+1/-0)
Not going to lie that's hilarious. And that is how I talk to my kid. My daughter gets irritated at me sometimes when I yell at the phone so when she defends all this sjw shit I tell her omg just tell me now if youre a lesbian... She says no I'm not I tell her to quit sounding like one.shes 17 she just wants to argue if I ignore her she'll get more attitude. she'll get over it.
You are. The only way you can get through is to trick him into using his mind. What I mean by that is you have to trick him into running his critical thinking app. (Your son is an NPC so it's best to think in term of a computer system.)
I'll give you an example: Ask your son if there should be equality in airline pilots? Most likely he will respond with 'yes'. Next, ask him a series of questions like, 'Does this mean there should be an equal number of women versus men? Black men versus White men? Black women versus White women?' You get the idea. Most likely his programming will cause him to respond in the affirmative to all questions.
Now tell him there are certain standards and qualifications that a person must meet in order to be a certified pilot and that certain people will not meet these standards & qualifications. Add that statistics show that certain groups like black males are less likely to meet these standards and qualifications versus White males. Ask him if he thinks that is racist or sexist? Most likely he will answer in the affirmative.
Now present him with a scenario. He is on a flight from Sydney to Los Angeles. The aircraft develops a serious problem requiring one of the engines to be shut down mid-flight. (This is a two-engine aircraft, BTW.) Now ask him this: Would he rather have an aircrew that was diverse — despite not being able to meet the standards and qualifications — or would he want the best aircrew available on that flight despite the fact that they most likely would be White and male?
He may come up with some bullshit NPC answer depending on how far gone he is, but if you keep giving him real-world scenarios to ponder you might be able to get him to run his critical thinking app more often and change his NPC programming. His father, in all likelihood, is too far gone to help so you shouldn't concern yourself with trying to get through to him. Somebody has to die in The Culling™ — better him than you.
First of all, CALM DOWN. You can't control everything your son gets exposed to, so accept that.
Be the alternative voice your son needs. He'll remember later in life your point of view (just don't force it on him). When the time comes where he becomes disillusioned with the programming, he'll need to know there's another way of looking at things.
I would simply focus on providing a positive, alternative message for him. Let him make up his own mind, accept what you cannot change, and change the things you can.
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:16:56 ago (+1/-0)
Since I haven’t had to time to thoughtfully respond to everyone, I wanted to take the time to say thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart. The comment section shows exactly why this place has become my home. I knew you all would provide me with some great advice, but this truly was some next level shit. Even Dial gave me some heartfelt advice! It’s challenging being a woman who was once brainwashed to have these views. It’s a daily struggle grappling with the reality that I just did what the jews wanted me to for so long. All I can do is try to better myself everyday and not fall for the same jewish tricks, and you all help me keep that base and reinforce my beliefs. Thank you, sincerely.
[ - ] beece 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:33:34 ago (+1/-0)*
Just love your son unconditionally and do your best. That's 90% of what you can do and the most important thing. If he respects you he'll ask your thoughts on things. Be honest in answering and if you feel that it might hurt him or your relationship don't answer and tell him why. BTW, as someone who lost their dad at an early age and was raised by a mom only, at least he has a dad. Think of all the positive things his dad had that at one time attracted you. Must be some good in the man that the son is emulating him. My neighbor is a NPC douchbag that I argue with, but he's not a "bad person" for all that.
[ - ] letsgetit 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:26:07 ago (+1/-0)
I suggest subtle hints and facts here and there. And not shit that you get from Fox News. If you push too hard he will just go further away from you. The goal is to put doubt in his mind about his npc narrative
Ideally you could tell your ex, you strongly oppose some of what he did and he'd find a middle ground. Otherwise you're left with telling your son that he needs to think independently.
Some books can show the treachery and how masses are manipulated.
[ - ] oldblo 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:11:22 ago (+1/-0)
Its good your son loves his dad even if he is retarded. Not much you can legally do other than offer a counter view. You cant and likely shouldnt forcibly mold your son to be how you want. You can only encourage them to put forth the effort one should in deciding how they want to be through a well thought out way devoid of bias. Unless its pure retardation one should be able to argue effectively for and against a thing before deciding. Not many people these days are able to live up to that. They just go "I want to be a good person." and proceed to do whatever evil claims to be good.
If possible dont leave your son alone with the father.
Seems a little late to be able to just force opinions of a kid if they're a teenager. Best you can do is take it from where they're at, and do cooler things with them than the other parent is doing! More intelligent and inspiring things too, but not necessarily all at the same time.
No seriously I don’t know. Just keep pointing out the lies. He gets hundreds of messages a day from the internet, music, his dad, his school, his friends which propagate the lies. What do these messages say?: be like this to be accepted, look like this, think like this. I just figure you’ve got to counter it with a hundred more messages saying: this is a lie, this is how they work, this is the truth. The programming is so powerful. And the kids understand its a choice between acceptance and rejection. They know no one will like them if they think like you. Just keep dropping the truth bombs and remember that lots of people recover from libtardation as adults and go on to live normal lives.
[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:01:00 ago (+1/-0)
I didn't submit to blood rape and I'm not flying a Ukrainian flag, even though I'm Ukrainian. If you consider me retarded what do you consider your son?
My son is a misguided dude who loves his dad. That doesn’t mean I’m going to write him off or get rid of him. You’re not retarded, your suggestion is retarded.
Isn’t it crazy? We never saw eye to eye and once Cohen-19 hit, I was not at all surprised to see him take the route he did and me the exact opposite. It’s par for the course of our lives.
Its too late, you failed your son. Have another if you can, this time with a decent man. Your ex being a terrible person is your fault because you choose to spread your legs for him. He could have just been another terrible person with no relations to you or your family.
Lol. Thanks for the video—too funny. The only glimmering hope I have is after I asked if his stepmom was Ukrainian, he laughed and said, “No, dad just picked it up a couple days ago,” and rolled his eyes while he sighed. I think he knows internally that his dad is an idiot. I feel bad for him.
Your son is comfortable expressing his slight embarrassment for his father to you. He has respect for you and I think you will be fine. In an ever increasing anti-White America, your son will naturally become more right leaning and he has you to run things off of. I’m assuming you gave your anti-vax opinion, but he still chose to get it because of friends/dad and the relentless propaganda.
I would speak to your ex privately and remind him that we are raising our son. Tell him you are uncomfortable with some of the things he is doing. Were you a progressive, punk girl the entire time dating him? Does he know your views now? Is his current wife/gf a leftist too?
The most troubling thing is the father of your child brought your son to a BLM rally! Not only was that dangerous and irresponsible, but so cucked.
Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate it. I know my son respects me deeply, which is why I have a hard time responding to things like this.
This world has gone politically mad. I was definitely always a punk, but back in the days when his dad and I were dating, I honestly didn’t have political views—I always thought everyone was full of shit. I was more “tolerant” back then and therefore brainwashed. I liked all the slacker comedies like ‘Clerks’. I lived in the city and never minded living around other races and gay people. I was always internally racist against blacks, though lol.
I never understood anything regarding the JQ till July 2020. Eeeeek!
His wife is a total NPC. Here’s the weird thing—they’re not total shitlibs, they’re virtue signalers who believe what the tv tells them. They behave more like a conservative family. Family dinner every night, church on Sunday, my son is helping on the weekends with home projects and stuff, she stayed home with the kids (5 & 4) till last year.
He definitely doesn’t know how “extreme” my beliefs are, but thinks that I’ve changed from left to right leaning. Woah, what he doesn’t know!
I always thought everyone was full of shit. I was more “tolerant” back then and therefore brainwashed. I liked all the slacker comedies like ‘Clerks’. I lived in the city and never minded living around other races and gay people. I was always internally racist against blacks, though
I had a similar experience growing up, although I became JQ aware around 2015. I’m also a recovering heroin/pain killer addict (over 10 years clean), which helped shape my racial awareness.
I think we are from the same area. I sometimes get gas and a late night sandwich at a chain with a goose mascot.
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 20:19:39 ago (+1/-0)
That’s amazing. 10 years—congratulations! I’m sure getting clean and having a clear head put a lot of perspective on everything. Did the JQ just hit you out of nowhere or did someone Jpill you?
I think I know where you’re from but I’m not from that neck of the woods. I’m northwest of you. But if you are where I think you’re from, I really like that city (as far as cities go, of course).
P.S., been listening to Poison the Well—they’re great; thanks for the recommendation! ‘Letter Thing’ is killer 🤙🏼
Did the JQ just hit you out of nowhere or did someone Jpill you?
Illegal and legal Latino immigration was my first observable red pill. I saw the gentrification of bordering poorer White towns turn in to mestizo villages, within a short span of only a couple years. Signs, phone services, tv stations, sections in the book store were all beginning to cater to spanish speakers. I saw pictures from the Mexican border of unskilled mestizos waving their flags, demanding to be allowed in to America. The now famous “Diversity is our strength” platitude was being pushed in my high school. We even held a “culture” day of appreciation for non white people. It consisted of ethnic exclusively nonwhite dances (black drill, middle eastern, asian and Latino), despite my school being 95% White. Slavery and the holocaust were the lion’s share of history lessons. We also went on a few class field trips to holocaust museums. I remember being ashamed of existing as a person of German descent.
I was a 2 sport athlete in high school and worked for a retail brand as my first job. I remember the hiring questions being hypothetical racist scenarios that I never witnessed in my life.
Example: What would you do if you noticed a black coworker being picked on because of the color of his skin?
I found that really odd… I also modeled for this company and years later they got in trouble for not having enough “people of color” models LOL. I also struggled to find any scholarships for college and saw that every race was represented except native, White people. My first roommate in college was half black and he went to college for free. I had a higher SAT score and better grades. I ended up getting a partial academic scholarship, which meant I still had to pay 15k a semester. We were also forced to take a class in feminism, black history or some other degenerate course I’m forgetting at the moment. I ended up partying a lot and doing hard drugs, eventually dropping out of college. After the 2014, 2015 BLM riots when cops killed a criminal black person, I started noticing patterns. I couldn’t understand why the media justified black people burning down cities over someone dying for his actions. Reddit at the time was less moderated and was j-pilled over there. Down the rabbit hill I went and clownworld was becoming impossible to ignore.
I now get internally, emotional when seeing young, White children. I saw a 4-5 year old blonde-haired, White boy the other day using a toy lawnmower pretending he’s mowing his lawn. It kills me knowing he doesn’t have a chance in today’s anti-White world.
I really like that city (as far as cities go, of course).
On a lighter note, I do as well! I enjoy the good food and loved the nightlife there in my early 20’s.
thanks for the recommendation!
Awesome to hear! Early 2000’s emo/post-hardcore music holds a special place in my heart.
Whites got so screwed by the (((education system,))) but I feel particularly bad for white men. That had to feel like a punch in the gut in college—finding out everything you did about your roommate going to school for free. No wonder why you turned to partying, too.
I’m also lol about the company you worked for, and yes, they were probably the first company that got shit on for not being (((diverse))) enough. There were so many beautiful white people in their catalog. I used to wait for that catalog to come in my late teens to check out the dudes. They used to make really well-made clothes, too. Great quality. I still have a sweater from its earliest days and it held up PERFECTLY.
It’s been a slow descent into this mess, but it really started accelerated once Trumpenstein got into office. The one thing he did was make “fake news” a household name. That was a good thing. But fuck him.
I just miss the old days where I didn’t give a shit about world events and the world didn’t feel as divided. I just can’t believe how staged, fake, and gay everything is.
Somehow, I believe our knowledge is going to be very useful sooner rather than later.
The one thing he did was make “fake news” a household name.
I completely agree and this was the best thing about his presidency.
I just miss the old days where I didn’t give a shit about world events and the world didn’t feel as divided.
At least we got to experience pre-clownworld. I still remember using pay phones to get picked up at the movie theater when I was a teenager, writing notes in class to lovers, sneaking out in the middle of the night to hang out with friends and going to concerts/beach/parks etc. The extent of my social media was leaving a permanent away message on AIM, like an answering machine. Todays world is to purposely limit human interaction.
Somehow, I believe our knowledge is going to be very useful sooner rather than later.
Honey, find an African-American man. They are strong, physically and mentally, and he will give your impressionable son the male role model that he so desperately needs.
You should pray to the Lord and forgive your son's father. Be a living example of a good Christian women so that your son might choose a woman similar to yourself. Otherwise, you're gonna have half black grandkids.
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 27 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:39:47 ago (+27/-0)
If he thinks abortion is good, tell him one of your racist co-workers loves abortion because blacks, browns and liberals are the only ones who get abortions. Tell him you hope he isn't a racist like your co-worker. Then when he REEEE's about not being racist, get him to explain why he likes abortion knowing that almost exclusively black, brown and liberals are the only ones getting abortions.
Ask him his thoughts on immigration, then say that the same racist co-worker loves immigration because it fucks over 3rd world countries because US immigration steals the best and brightest from the 3rd world. Then show him this video that your racist co-worker kept talking about, https://youtu.be/l6tSqGCfoCI
Regarding Ukraine, explain as well that your racist co-worker completely supports Ukraine because of their active support of National Socialism. Tell him you argued with your co-worker and started learning more about WW2 to counter his racist arguments. My personal path to enlightenment started by watching unbiased documentaries about WW2, the more I learned, the more I began to question things. Get quotes from Mein Kompf and point out how wrong Hitler was wrong when he said things like America would turn into a shithole the less white it got or any of the other predictions Hitler had that ALL came true.
Knowledge is the jews greatest fear. The jews see themselves as gods among men and the jews only rule is not to eat from the tree of knowledge or you will suffer eternal damnation. Literally their first lesson for the goyim in the bible is ignorance is bliss, you will own nothing and be happy.
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:13:46 ago (+5/-0)
Thats not a good way to be and there are repercussions for being found out.
[ + ] Swej_Ehtsag
[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:39:36 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:11:55 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] 1Icemonkey 23 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:26:53 ago (+25/-2)
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[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:07:07 ago (+2/-1)
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[ - ] HeyJames 11 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:08:02 ago (+13/-2)
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[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:34:53 ago (+6/-0)
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[ - ] Gowithit 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 13:00:05 ago (+4/-0)
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[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 3 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 13:14:05 ago (+3/-0)
Regardless, the best you can do is prepare yourself mentally for the worst. Too many people avoid this and it only leads to greater than necessary pain and suffering. Moreover, we have entered a time of great chaos which will result in a dramatic increase in the amount of pain and suffering on this planet. Because of this it is best to build up your resiliency in order to deal with the challenges ahead.
Good luck.
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[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 16:55:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:44:44 ago (+1/-7)
[ + ] dwb3
[ - ] dwb3 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:35:37 ago (+7/-1)*
She said it herself. Her son is doomed. Sadly I've got to agree.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:03:32 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] MrPancake 3 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:07:54 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] dwb3
[ - ] dwb3 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:20:55 ago (+2/-0)
Friendly reminder that just because shes a woman does not mean she deserves special treatment. I try to treat mostly everyone the same, even the disabled.
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[ + ] ibepokey
[ - ] ibepokey 17 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:06:11 ago (+17/-0)
hopefully you are already following this advice. it will poison your child against you. let them see for themselves, or not.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:11:45 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] ForgottenMemes
[ - ] ForgottenMemes 10 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:43:40 ago (+10/-0)
1. Everyone knows what they're doing and sees through the façade. They know you're pandering and you don't actually give a shit about ukraine/blm/thosepoorrapefugees/thinkofthechildren/whateverthecurrentthingis.
2. They think less of you for pandering. While they might applaud you to your face for repeating the approved narrative. Behind your back everyone knows your pandering, and you're just a shill for whatever NPC programming you've been given. They, correctly, see you as a weak, spineless, drone who goes along to get along. No one will respect you, no one will trust you, no one will ever expect anything of you, or for you to stand up for yourself or others.
Yes, you're "gaslighting" him, but it's for his own good. Never let on that anyone ever believes any of this bullshit. Be totally adamant that openly or secretly everyone sees through virtue signaling.
A side aspect to this is that you need to teach your son that, for a man, respect is everything. If you woman doesn't respect you, she's got one foot out the door. If your coworkers don't respect you, you'll never get a promotion. If your friends dont respect you, you'll be a laughing stock and the butt of their jokes. For a man nothing in this world matters more than respect.
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:21:48 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:59:37 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:43:30 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 10 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:24:18 ago (+10/-0)
my mother was always the one to tell me short honest corrections that normies would probably convey as 'mean' but i respected her way more for doing so than my father who was always too much of a coward to say anything, especially when that should be his job as a man to do so.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:32:15 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 9 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:18:57 ago (+9/-0)*
The trouble here, if your son is with his father every other weekend, is that because he spends the majority of his time with you (as the parent with primary custody), the lion's share of his naturally rebellious psychology (normal for this developmental stage) will take you as the 'other' he is defining himself against.
My parents were also divorced, but this was prior to the point in time where every part of our lives was politicized. I barely knew what my father's politics were. I saw him every other weekend. I love him, but I also had a firm grip on the fact he was not a good father (in the sense of fulfilling the proper role).
When I was 16, it didn't matter. I wasn't thinking about good parents or bad parents; I was focused on myself. My dad was an alcoholic and a smoker. He played in a band. I started doing those things. Don't get the impression I 'burned out'. I had two distinct male forces in my life. My step-father-figure was the opposite kind of person. I wound up becoming the kid with a 4.0 GPA, on the football team, who drank on the weekends and who got a few MIPs his senior year while picking up a cigarette habit that would remain with him to this day.
It was a strange mixture, where the rebellious side found expression on the weekends in the off-season, more or less.
My point is that nothing rational is likely to stop your son from subconsciously 'targeting' his father, if he spends the majority of his time with you. I knew my father was no good as a parent. It didn't matter. I was emulating anything that wasn't my mother because she became the figure which defined my rebellion.
It just so happens to be that a divorced set of parents perfects this dichotomy, since the 'othered' parent is now the opposite of the custodial parent and naturally draws the rebellious teen in that direction.
There is very little you can do about this. He needs the rebellion in order to not be an NPC. But his father is an NPC.
The best advice that I could give you would be to talk to him openly about these things. Tell him what an NPC is, what you mean by it. Why his father behaves like what you're calling an NPC, why you think this is not a good alternative for your son, and why this worries you. Feature some concerns that might be relevant to a kid that age: mention how being an NPC is not actually attractive to most women, and you are worried his dad's habits could impact his future relationships or something.
There's no easy way to go about this. If your son talks to his father about your talks, you'll probably wind up in a confrontation.
It may be easiest to just take every chance you have to positively state your values - with tact - acknowledging that this is the best you can do. Let your maturing boy learn for himself. I find one mistake a lot of parents make is to try to avoid being the parent a child rebels against by becoming too buddy-buddy with the kid. He'll have more respect for you when it is all over if you don't compromise in that way, or pander. Talk about what bothers you, what you think is right. Have longform conversations with him, if and when he is tolerating it. Accept it when he rejects you, or your statement, or your viewpoint (etc.) and don't act as if it phases you at all. Be a parent a child cannot change, which is what a parent needs to be.
Parents are the rocks a child beats himself against. I know from my own experience that as I got older, I gained so much more respect for my mother. When adulthood hits, you finally see your parents through the eyes of an adult.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:09:11 ago (+5/-0)
His dad and I do a 60/40, with me having him 60% of the time. I have him more during the school year and dad more so in the summer. By the end of the summer, he’s like, “Mom, I CAN’T WAIT to come back.” The thing is, Dad doesn’t have bad intentions even though he’s an idiot. He’s kinda like Clark Griswold. Always trying to have the perfect outward appearance and perfect family, with less of the humor. He’s not an outright shitlib. He’s only doing this bullshit because of what others think about him.
I agree with you—I’m going to have to have some straightforward conversations with my son. I also have to risk him rebelling against me. The truth is more important at this point than me coddling this fucked up belief system that he’s being ingrained into. Thank you for the good words; I appreciate you.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:09:32 ago (+2/-0)
Best of luck with your son. Things will work out. If you notice changes in the future, update us.
For what it's worth, you do have a leg up as a woman when speaking to your son. I remember a few points from when I was younger where my mother made critical comments about my appearance or my choices. Now, I mean 'critical' in a concerned sense, not just meanness. For example, I can think of times she told me my haircut made me look stupid. Of course I didn't admit it affected me, but I did go change my haircut in short order after she talked to me about it. Did I say, "Mom, thanks for the advice!" Hell no.
But if your mother comes to you earnestly and says, "Yeah, girls aren't going to like that at all", a boy that age isn't deaf to that kind of language. You might think it's petty. To some degree it is - but we're better off using the sexual facts of life to our advantage. I think it's effective, if it's used with some discretion. Just a rhetorical tool in the belt.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 07:11:48 ago (+4/-0)
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:52:35 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:09:55 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:28:13 ago (+0/-0)
I'm now in my early 30s, and I've definitely sensed the loss of my idiotic resilience to self-harm from yesteryear.
[ + ] 2017Fallout
[ - ] 2017Fallout 3 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 03:54:26 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:14:24 ago (+1/-0)
A good example might be limiting yourself to one hour a day where you're allowed to smoke, or "only after meals". Having something to look forward to can help you stay abstinant in the short term.
Another tactic might be to limit total cigarettes in a week, so if you're really stressed you can have one or two extra, but you can't go overboard because you'll have less on the remaining days.
Good luck!
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:50:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:38:43 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] MrPancake 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:11:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 18:40:23 ago (+0/-0)
I've used the gum with some success, but the trouble with cigarettes is the entire ritual itself. The nicotine is part of it, but I really enjoy the act of smoking, even the harshness of smoke hitting my lungs.
It's positively retarded.
[ + ] MrPancake
[ - ] MrPancake 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 18:58:25 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 22:24:56 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 2.0 yearsMay 11, 2022 20:52:13 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Terraeri1 0 points 2 yearsApr 20, 2022 23:50:06 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:15:16 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:31:26 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] White_Pride_Cis
[ - ] White_Pride_Cis 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:57:50 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:40:52 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:11:21 ago (+6/-1)
But if true, you fucked up by choosing the wrong man. Or rather your father fucked up by letting you choose a man lol weakling.
Now it’s too late, you cannot influence your son now. You will only make him hate you and create a distance between you and him.
Your best bet is to hope your son falls into the right kind of group. Only other teens can influence a teen with an npc weak father
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 6 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:17:25 ago (+6/-0)
I am thankful my son has a great group of friends. Nice kids. His best friend has a dad who is a total jew hating Chad, which is great.
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:50:25 ago (+4/-0)
You should try to have your son hang out with his good friend and his chad dad. That’s a small glimmer of hope there, he may start emulating him as a strong Male figurehead.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:07:32 ago (+4/-0)
Luckily my son is like another son at his bff’s house. They are a very based family and am so thankful that’s a big part of my son’s world. I wasn’t able to give him all of that, which I deeply regret, but there are some amazing families that give my son the experience I would have wanted to give him myself while he’s here with me.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:41:02 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] bosunmoon 5 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:32:38 ago (+6/-1)
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[ - ] dingbat [op] 9 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:35:45 ago (+9/-0)
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[ - ] Centaurus 5 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:48:59 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] Prairie 3 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 06:13:49 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:20:18 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] bosunmoon -2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:47:29 ago (+1/-3)
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[ - ] dulcima 10 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:03:07 ago (+10/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 5 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:21:00 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] ToNigIsToNog
[ - ] ToNigIsToNog 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 18:41:51 ago (+2/-0)
show him nigger behavior
play guess the race
show him how foolish they appear
show him how rape apes behave irrespective to your bent knee foot kissing bullshit
he'll get it
[ + ] NedsHead
[ - ] NedsHead 3 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 04:01:44 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:44:21 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:59:21 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] AtomicForeskin 3 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:41:16 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:19:39 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:22:22 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] MrPancake 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 17:18:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BoraxTheFungarian
[ - ] BoraxTheFungarian 3 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:41:20 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 07:20:02 ago (+2/-0)
For example, asking questions about why the flu disappeared during the lockdowns, but covid didn't, or bringing up previous lawsuits against pfizer.
[ + ] Nozyedys
[ - ] Nozyedys 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 06:59:55 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] SirNiggsalot
[ - ] SirNiggsalot 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 20:47:31 ago (+1/-0)
Start with suggesting that he should question whatever narrative is being pushed by the MSM / Government coalition , and make up his own mind.
Subtleness is key
Best of luck , hope you can get him to at least honestly question things .
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[ - ] deleted 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 05:33:34 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:23:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Splooge
[ - ] Splooge 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 04:19:55 ago (+2/-0)
When you’re an NPC, the most powerful effect you subject yourself to are blinders. They flip on whenever something causes a cognitive dissonance, but the deeper you invest yourself, the more often and willingly you’ll flip them on yourself.
Your kid’s dad, for example, has no counter for a place like Voat or the contents of the talmud or the full life story of MLK or any other host of subjects. All he can do is ad hominem — “they’re racist/sexist/evil, don’t give them any attention.” With no convenient “gotcha” line to rely on, all he can do is command dismissal.
So establish a pattern with your son, something like this:
“What did your dad tell you about [topic]?”
“He told me [topic] is good/bad.”
“Oh. Did he tell you what [topic] is?”
“No.”
“I wonder why he doesn’t want you to know what [topic] is.”
“What did your dad tell you about [person]?”
“He told me that [person] is good/bad.”
“Oh. Did he tell you what [person] said/did/believed?”
“No.”
“Huh. I wonder why he doesn’t want you to know what [person] said/did/believed.”
To your son, his dad is a cool source of information and truth, because it’s easy to put on such airs when you’re operating with a deceptive framework to begin with. Your goal, therefore, is to expose this framework, which will show your son that he is either not as knowledgeable as he seems or is deliberately concealing information from him.
And of course, make it clear that you will never do this to him.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:06:40 ago (+0/-0)
He has definitely caught his dad in lies (dad is a consultant btw, and lies and bullshits all day for a living) so it’s little things like that that give me internal ease because I know I’m developing a good base of trust with him. I do have faith that someday he will see through dad’s bullshit. I think “poking holes” is a great technique and I have to keep at it. I have done it before but end up feeling like a bitch. I gotta get over it.
[ + ] Murdock
[ - ] Murdock 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:49:29 ago (+2/-0)
You don't even need to tell him anything, just show him in a natural way, find examples IRL, find an excuse to talk about one, later an excuse to talk about the other...
He will put 2+2 together... And choose the correct one..
After that, you talk about what those beautiful right leaning girls like and dislike. They are feminine but not feminist. They want a respectable man. Provider. They hate soy weak men. They hate activists of blm or Ukraine. Etc.
With that I believe he will start striving to the correct side.
If you find IRL examples is even better.
When/if his father get what you are doing he might try to brainwash your son saying women love soy / sentiment men. But as long as you keep showing examples.. You will win...
Find a group of pretty right leaning girls and where they have lunch. Schedule some lunch with your boy on the table beside. He will hear what they say directly and not from you or his father.
Wish you luck.
Hope it helps.
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:43:36 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:41:18 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:57:49 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DanielR
[ - ] DanielR 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:37:03 ago (+3/-1)
Take the kid and move, make it impossible for him to get shared custody. It is your sons life.
[ + ] KyleIsThisTall
[ - ] KyleIsThisTall 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 14:11:01 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:09:09 ago (+1/-0)
My daughter gets irritated at me sometimes when I yell at the phone so when she defends all this sjw shit I tell her omg just tell me now if youre a lesbian... She says no I'm not I tell her to quit sounding like one.shes 17 she just wants to argue if I ignore her she'll get more attitude. she'll get over it.
[ + ] deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 16:09:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] RecycledElectrons
[ - ] RecycledElectrons 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:09:15 ago (+3/-1)
Explain that you disagree with dad on things, and ask dad to make predictions.
Be ready to make a few predictions. Know that if these do not clearly happen, you will lose.
Point out dad's illogic.
[ + ] fritz_maurentod
[ - ] fritz_maurentod 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 13:29:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 12:16:01 ago (+1/-0)
You are. The only way you can get through is to trick him into using his mind. What I mean by that is you have to trick him into running his critical thinking app. (Your son is an NPC so it's best to think in term of a computer system.)
I'll give you an example: Ask your son if there should be equality in airline pilots? Most likely he will respond with 'yes'. Next, ask him a series of questions like, 'Does this mean there should be an equal number of women versus men? Black men versus White men? Black women versus White women?' You get the idea. Most likely his programming will cause him to respond in the affirmative to all questions.
Now tell him there are certain standards and qualifications that a person must meet in order to be a certified pilot and that certain people will not meet these standards & qualifications. Add that statistics show that certain groups like black males are less likely to meet these standards and qualifications versus White males. Ask him if he thinks that is racist or sexist? Most likely he will answer in the affirmative.
Now present him with a scenario. He is on a flight from Sydney to Los Angeles. The aircraft develops a serious problem requiring one of the engines to be shut down mid-flight. (This is a two-engine aircraft, BTW.) Now ask him this: Would he rather have an aircrew that was diverse — despite not being able to meet the standards and qualifications — or would he want the best aircrew available on that flight despite the fact that they most likely would be White and male?
He may come up with some bullshit NPC answer depending on how far gone he is, but if you keep giving him real-world scenarios to ponder you might be able to get him to run his critical thinking app more often and change his NPC programming. His father, in all likelihood, is too far gone to help so you shouldn't concern yourself with trying to get through to him. Somebody has to die in The Culling™ — better him than you.
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:23:44 ago (+1/-0)
Be the alternative voice your son needs. He'll remember later in life your point of view (just don't force it on him). When the time comes where he becomes disillusioned with the programming, he'll need to know there's another way of looking at things.
I would simply focus on providing a positive, alternative message for him. Let him make up his own mind, accept what you cannot change, and change the things you can.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:16:56 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Boardallday3
[ - ] Boardallday3 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:40:39 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:33:34 ago (+1/-0)*
Good luck!
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:00:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] letsgetit
[ - ] letsgetit 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:26:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 07:29:40 ago (+0/-0)
Next time, don't fuck faggots.
[ + ] gat
[ - ] gat 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 06:19:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:47:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:30:10 ago (+1/-0)
For what its worth I feel for you.
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:05:06 ago (+1/-0)*
Younger teen
The Mysterious Benedict Society - then explain the NPC idea.
Older kid.
The Prince
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
Ideally you could tell your ex, you strongly oppose some of what he did and he'd find a middle ground. Otherwise you're left with telling your son that he needs to think independently.
Some books can show the treachery and how masses are manipulated.
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:11:22 ago (+1/-0)
Not much you can legally do other than offer a counter view.
You cant and likely shouldnt forcibly mold your son to be how you want. You can only encourage them to put forth the effort one should in deciding how they want to be through a well thought out way devoid of bias.
Unless its pure retardation one should be able to argue effectively for and against a thing before deciding.
Not many people these days are able to live up to that. They just go "I want to be a good person." and proceed to do whatever evil claims to be good.
If possible dont leave your son alone with the father.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:19:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:21:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CoronaHoax
[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:21:03 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:03:05 ago (+3/-2)
No seriously I don’t know. Just keep pointing out the lies. He gets hundreds of messages a day from the internet, music, his dad, his school, his friends which propagate the lies. What do these messages say?: be like this to be accepted, look like this, think like this. I just figure you’ve got to counter it with a hundred more messages saying: this is a lie, this is how they work, this is the truth. The programming is so powerful. And the kids understand its a choice between acceptance and rejection. They know no one will like them if they think like you. Just keep dropping the truth bombs and remember that lots of people recover from libtardation as adults and go on to live normal lives.
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 00:00:40 ago (+2/-1)
2. But here's a long and poorly thought out opinion anyway
Lol. Every time.
[ + ] Ragnar
[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:21:02 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:26:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:01:41 ago (+1/-0)
He also has a pile of RAT tests in his room and tests himself regularly.
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[ - ] 1Icemonkey 1 point 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:21:21 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:42:31 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:38:39 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Kozel 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 11:01:00 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] giantprick
[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:40:05 ago (+0/-0)
Either way you shouldn't be making decisions based on the circumstances
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 09:54:48 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] quidgybo 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 08:07:26 ago (+1/-1)
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[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:24:40 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Belrick
[ - ] Belrick 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 03:04:00 ago (+1/-0)
How do you reconcile that with anything other than hatred?
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 10:26:27 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Bornoffireandice 0 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:42:06 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 7 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 22:27:56 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:33:03 ago (+4/-0)
I would speak to your ex privately and remind him that we are raising our son. Tell him you are uncomfortable with some of the things he is doing. Were you a progressive, punk girl the entire time dating him? Does he know your views now? Is his current wife/gf a leftist too?
The most troubling thing is the father of your child brought your son to a BLM rally! Not only was that dangerous and irresponsible, but so cucked.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 3 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:55:44 ago (+3/-0)
This world has gone politically mad. I was definitely always a punk, but back in the days when his dad and I were dating, I honestly didn’t have political views—I always thought everyone was full of shit. I was more “tolerant” back then and therefore brainwashed. I liked all the slacker comedies like ‘Clerks’. I lived in the city and never minded living around other races and gay people. I was always internally racist against blacks, though lol.
I never understood anything regarding the JQ till July 2020. Eeeeek!
His wife is a total NPC. Here’s the weird thing—they’re not total shitlibs, they’re virtue signalers who believe what the tv tells them. They behave more like a conservative family. Family dinner every night, church on Sunday, my son is helping on the weekends with home projects and stuff, she stayed home with the kids (5 & 4) till last year.
He definitely doesn’t know how “extreme” my beliefs are, but thinks that I’ve changed from left to right leaning. Woah, what he doesn’t know!
…..that BLM rally???? Man, was I PIIIIIIISSED.
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 4 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 02:34:09 ago (+4/-0)
I had a similar experience growing up, although I became JQ aware around 2015. I’m also a recovering heroin/pain killer addict (over 10 years clean), which helped shape my racial awareness.
I think we are from the same area. I sometimes get gas and a late night sandwich at a chain with a goose mascot.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 1 point 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 20:19:39 ago (+1/-0)
I think I know where you’re from but I’m not from that neck of the woods. I’m northwest of you. But if you are where I think you’re from, I really like that city (as far as cities go, of course).
P.S., been listening to Poison the Well—they’re great; thanks for the recommendation! ‘Letter Thing’ is killer 🤙🏼
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 04:31:58 ago (+0/-0)
Illegal and legal Latino immigration was my first observable red pill. I saw the gentrification of bordering poorer White towns turn in to mestizo villages, within a short span of only a couple years. Signs, phone services, tv stations, sections in the book store were all beginning to cater to spanish speakers. I saw pictures from the Mexican border of unskilled mestizos waving their flags, demanding to be allowed in to America. The now famous “Diversity is our strength” platitude was being pushed in my high school. We even held a “culture” day of appreciation for non white people. It consisted of ethnic exclusively nonwhite dances (black drill, middle eastern, asian and Latino), despite my school being 95% White. Slavery and the holocaust were the lion’s share of history lessons. We also went on a few class field trips to holocaust museums. I remember being ashamed of existing as a person of German descent.
I was a 2 sport athlete in high school and worked for a retail brand as my first job. I remember the hiring questions being hypothetical racist scenarios that I never witnessed in my life.
Example: What would you do if you noticed a black coworker being picked on because of the color of his skin?
I found that really odd… I also modeled for this company and years later they got in trouble for not having enough “people of color” models LOL. I also struggled to find any scholarships for college and saw that every race was represented except native, White people. My first roommate in college was half black and he went to college for free. I had a higher SAT score and better grades. I ended up getting a partial academic scholarship, which meant I still had to pay 15k a semester. We were also forced to take a class in feminism, black history or some other degenerate course I’m forgetting at the moment. I ended up partying a lot and doing hard drugs, eventually dropping out of college. After the 2014, 2015 BLM riots when cops killed a criminal black person, I started noticing patterns. I couldn’t understand why the media justified black people burning down cities over someone dying for his actions. Reddit at the time was less moderated and was j-pilled over there. Down the rabbit hill I went and clownworld was becoming impossible to ignore.
I now get internally, emotional when seeing young, White children. I saw a 4-5 year old blonde-haired, White boy the other day using a toy lawnmower pretending he’s mowing his lawn. It kills me knowing he doesn’t have a chance in today’s anti-White world.
On a lighter note, I do as well! I enjoy the good food and loved the nightlife there in my early 20’s.
Awesome to hear! Early 2000’s emo/post-hardcore music holds a special place in my heart.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 16:44:40 ago (+0/-0)
I’m also lol about the company you worked for, and yes, they were probably the first company that got shit on for not being (((diverse))) enough. There were so many beautiful white people in their catalog. I used to wait for that catalog to come in my late teens to check out the dudes. They used to make really well-made clothes, too. Great quality. I still have a sweater from its earliest days and it held up PERFECTLY.
It’s been a slow descent into this mess, but it really started accelerated once Trumpenstein got into office. The one thing he did was make “fake news” a household name. That was a good thing. But fuck him.
I just miss the old days where I didn’t give a shit about world events and the world didn’t feel as divided. I just can’t believe how staged, fake, and gay everything is.
Somehow, I believe our knowledge is going to be very useful sooner rather than later.
\o
[ + ] NationalSocialism
[ - ] NationalSocialism 0 points 2 yearsApr 19, 2022 17:43:51 ago (+0/-0)
I completely agree and this was the best thing about his presidency.
At least we got to experience pre-clownworld. I still remember using pay phones to get picked up at the movie theater when I was a teenager, writing notes in class to lovers, sneaking out in the middle of the night to hang out with friends and going to concerts/beach/parks etc. The extent of my social media was leaving a permanent away message on AIM, like an answering machine. Todays world is to purposely limit human interaction.
Yes, as corny as it sounds… knowledge is power!
o/
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 2 points 2 yearsApr 17, 2022 23:45:46 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat [op] 2 points 2 yearsApr 18, 2022 01:28:18 ago (+2/-0)
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