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[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 20:38:53 ago (+0/-0)

If you could search for it on google it probably doesn't matter.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 11, 2022 18:55:24 ago (+0/-0)

Meh, fck Gayway cumdic founder/owner Hoff and his faggot Filipino Fiance ....

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 19:22:36 ago (+1/-0)

Suggestions? Yandex?

[ - ] rectangle 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 01:47:12 ago (+1/-0)*

DDG was never 'free'. Of course we already knew that long ago... DDG was created by gabriel weinberg.

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https://www.searchenginemap.com/

check out this website and you will see who is buying their search results from who. There is really no 'private' or 'free (as in freedom)' option available.

I personally use a self hosted instance is Searx. It gives you results from all the major search engines which you can easily customize to add or remove a specific search engine. It also strips out as much personal data from your search, so your search results page isn't as personalized, all you get are the search results.

[ - ] v0atmage 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 19:30:56 ago (+2/-0)

They were always cucked but now they really have no redeeming value.

[ - ] deleted 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 19:44:37 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] GhostCow 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 21:53:10 ago (+2/-0)

Searx just gathers results from other search engines like google. It's not actually a search engine in and of it's self. DDG also used Google. There are very few search engines using their own results/algorithms/whatever. Last I checked there were only two or three and they all sucked. Worse than google even without blatant manipulation of their results.

[ - ] beece [op] 3 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 22:25:01 ago (+3/-0)*

Try this: Find a search string you want to do that may be controversial. Lets say: "How many faggots kill themselves after they get their balls chopped off". Pick something that makes sense to you.
"Did Jews in Ukraine Steal $2 billion dollars from the USA"?
"Did Hunter Biden's Laptop really call out his grifter dad, Joe?"

Anyway, you get that part. Enter them all into these search engines and rank them based on how well you think they did. For me, top to bottom, this is how they played out in whatever I put in back when. I will note that recently I was looking for a video, and metager totally failed, but Qwant came through. Maybe we all need multiple search engines. Once you have your list, please add the ones you tryed and rank them all based on how well they did. Clearly I need to re-rank, as duckduck go is fucked now.

https://metager3.de/en
https://www.qwant.com/
https://duckduckgo.com/
https://trends.gab.com/search
https://search.disconnect.me/
https://www.searchencrypt.com/
https://www.bing.com/
https://www.oscobo.com/
https://stackexchange.com/sites
https://www.nndb.com/
https://lbry.com/
https://www.metacrawler.com/
https://www.startpage.com/
https://gibiru.com/
https://search.joshwho.net/
https://swisscows.com/
https://www.google.com/
https://www.4conservative.com/
https://presearch.org/
https://resulthunter.com/

others I haven't gotten to:
https://search.brave.com/
https://yandex.com/
https://searx.me/
Added per Voat user Rectangle below, per this wonderful link: https://www.searchenginemap.com/
https://www.mojeek.com/
https://www.gigablast.com/
https://www.etools.ch/
https://www.entireweb.com/

Not entered - for me, was Torch (they want you to download software)

[ - ] account deleted by user 3 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 23:09:09 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Sheitstrom 3 points 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 03:17:04 ago (+3/-0)

Duck duck go follows the same "reliable sources" formula most search engines follow (in addition to the new policy of downgrading sites for wrongthink).

Most search engines downgrade sites they don't like (because the ceo hates a competitor, etc etc); this new policy is allegedly part of a master list all search engines are supposed to follow.

Regarding "reliable sources", if you want to see "reliable sources" in practice, look up something like "Pokemon" or some other pop-culture topic. In 2010, your results would be a list of fan-sites and message boards, geocities type sites etc. all competing with the official Pokemon sites. Big fan-sites were usually #1 or #2.

Now, thanks to "reliable sources", you'll see about 3 pages of Pokemon sites from Amazon Prime, wikipedia, the "official Pokemon site", Rolling Stone (last relevant in 1985), New York Times, Washington Post, amazon.com, ebay, etc. etc. Then after 3 or 4 pages you might see a fan site, followed by very tangential references on the "reliable sources". So they literally bury the relevant response in the middle of a sea of mainstream irrelevant crap.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 07:51:22 ago (+2/-0)

This all started because an unbiased algorithm gets gamed by scammers and competition. So google originally built infrastructure to defeat that and is now exploiting it for other purposes.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 21:56:40 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] giantprick 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 10, 2022 22:29:43 ago (+1/-0)

100% this. Is there any such open source system out there that does this now? Is there anything in the works?

[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 09:55:08 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] giantprick 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 15:21:14 ago (+2/-0)

I mean, in theory it isn't that hard to build crawlers. You just need a lot of drives

Let's assume you only store text, you probably reduce the data volume by at least 90%. I'd have to assume even a small group of intent investors could afford it.

It wouldn't be technically that hard to build. But as you say, it would be targeted heavily by the powers that be.

But can you imagine getting to search for literally identical strings again? Can you imagine filtering out all the garbage SEO?

[ - ] deleted 2 points 3.1 yearsMar 12, 2022 09:40:10 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Goatslayer 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 00:01:16 ago (+2/-2)

You need to quit reading fake news and just use Google

[ - ] uvulectomy 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 11, 2022 00:24:26 ago (+1/-0)

Obvious troll is obvious. Gas yourself, Shlomo.