Unless you’re anticipating non-conventional shooting positions (under beds, barricades, vehicles) then a laser is basically a homing beacon straight to your position. Red dots are superimposed and not projected so no downrange signature, plus, higher end models are useful for targeting under NODs which is practically impossible or tedious with irons.
An IR laser on the other hand is very useful, but you’d probably be using your pistol as a secondary weapon at that point
Red dots might be superior but the iron sights are going to be there after batteries die or addon sights break. You should spend good money on good iron sights and master them
[ - ] Battlefat [op] 1 point 3.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 18:56:20 ago (+1/-0)
There’s something fucking incredibly satisfying looking through tritium sights in the middle of the night, practical utility be damned. That said, a TLR-1 or similar is a must for a nightstand pistol
[ - ] Battlefat [op] 1 point 3.6 yearsSep 30, 2021 09:28:28 ago (+1/-0)
There is a method to light use — essentially short bursts with randomized movements — which helps to disorient and confuse while aiding in positive identification of threats when room clearing. The caveat is that this practice is only useful in an enclosed building like a home or office. If outside in the open, light discipline is priority, especially on flat or exposed terrain and should only be used in the event of a known tactical advantage.
Remaining static with the light on in either scenario is an excellent way to get dead fast
[ - ] Battlefat [op] 1 point 3.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 18:50:47 ago (+1/-0)
Several years ago at CHL quals, the crusty RO (retired LEO with 20+ yrs of instruction) was asking for scores when a guy calls out a perfect. The RO walks over, checks the target and says “…damn, so it is.”
RO later admitted during the classroom portion of the training that though some had gotten close, none had ever scored a perfect target in all his years of running range qualifications.
The guy had a co-witnessed red dot and the RO started reluctantly pushing them as a viable alternative to the class, confessing he hadn’t personally seen the utility up until that moment
Tritium is the bare minimum for aiming under NODs but they aren’t ideal (“blobs”) but some people can shoot very well after training with them extensively
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An IR laser on the other hand is very useful, but you’d probably be using your pistol as a secondary weapon at that point
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Remaining static with the light on in either scenario is an excellent way to get dead fast
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RO later admitted during the classroom portion of the training that though some had gotten close, none had ever scored a perfect target in all his years of running range qualifications.
The guy had a co-witnessed red dot and the RO started reluctantly pushing them as a viable alternative to the class, confessing he hadn’t personally seen the utility up until that moment
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