…but is trusting random people, or worse misinformed familiars, in real life, really any better?
What is the standard for trust in the modern era?
On occasion I speak at length to people in real life and often they describe the experience as “perspective changing,” but since have no real platform from which to speak other than personal experience, why should they trust anything I have to say? I speak in platitudes and can be rude or brusque, which is to say I am no better than they in delivery, but despite this commonality, why is it that my perspective remains mostly the same while theirs alters in some more meaningful way? I’ve never thought to ask…
Many here have influenced my way of thinking, I admit, and am thankful for it, but it is not without a healthy amount of skepticism have I progressed forward in my own parallel journey — what quality is it then that makes one individual more trustworthy than another, even without direct objective proof?
You could be speaking blatant lies, it doesn’t matter as long as you have the charisma and confidence to woo the listener. I used to think that everyone thought about things and questioned everything presented in a way like I did. Always asking where the other theories are and if I could read them. I was socially ostracized in school for it so I just thought to myself and developed my inner world to allow for me to detach my feelings from situations to use different perspectives to find truth in a story. It’s gotten me in trouble, and I’ve broken my own moral code because of it in my past. I’m glad to learn that I’m not as unique as I originally lamented. Many people do think as I do, and the people who don’t are basically to be led around by a metaphorical leash, as much as I loathe to say that. If I look at humans objectively, every race has its leaders and it’s followers. I think it’s a lifestyle choice made subconsciously by most and it’s unfair of any of us to demand another changes. My solution is to simply lead them on a path of healing, but not forcing them to take it.
You could be speaking blatant lies, it doesn’t matter as long as you have the charisma and confidence to woo the listener.
Truth is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak…what good is trust if it is based in or on objective lies?
I asked the question because many individuals it is certain to me now don’t question the source from which they’ve derived their information, just merely that they trust it is true.
What better then to deliver an objective truth in an authoritative and charismatic way. Lately, much of what has been promoted as truth are objective falsehoods delivered under the auspices of fear.
Now is time I believe to counter these falsehoods with truth, confidently and objectively delivered in a comforting tone.
[ - ] Battlefat [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 19:53:22 ago (+1/-0)
I agree that to trust is to compromise agency but trust is the basis for forming basic relationships. To constantly have ones trust betrayed by authority, family or strangers is no way to form or become engaged in a community (or society, when writ large).
Lately, for me personally, meaningless small talk has given way for opportunity to participate in more engaged and difficult conversations, which was something I demanded well in advance of recent current events — I am an exhausting person, yes, but everyone knows where I stand. And most (but not all) default to trusting the information they derive from me, despite me knowing they are blindly trusting my (limited) authority.
It’s curious you say that — it is lately said that I can be quite “comforting,” but the same can be said of many famous serial killers (and perhaps too of those not yet caught), but a great many truths are to be found in discomforting things.
Whether coated in honey or vinegar the base of shit at the bottom is still shit, but the honey for its qualities makes the better fly trap
[ - ] Mr7Slug 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 16:32:41 ago (+1/-0)
I always have stats and percentages and historical precedents to back up my viewpoints, i also preach the good word to my degenerate associates as you do, and i sway them, while they have never swayed me. Because they do not have facts and history on their side. We tend to come from a position of knowledge and history proven wisdom with logic and reasoning, while those we find ourselves proselytizing to only ever come with uncontrolled emotions, misinformation, misunderstanding, and historical inaccuracies.
What i trust when i hear from others is what i can confirm and find supporting evidence for. Trust nothing without being able to check for yourself. Ever.
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[ - ] Battlefat [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 2, 2021 18:22:23 ago (+0/-0)
Truth is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak…what good is trust if it is based in or on objective lies?
I asked the question because many individuals it is certain to me now don’t question the source from which they’ve derived their information, just merely that they trust it is true.
What better then to deliver an objective truth in an authoritative and charismatic way. Lately, much of what has been promoted as truth are objective falsehoods delivered under the auspices of fear.
Now is time I believe to counter these falsehoods with truth, confidently and objectively delivered in a comforting tone.
It is time to pull our people from the cave
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[ - ] Battlefat [op] 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 19:53:22 ago (+1/-0)
Lately, for me personally, meaningless small talk has given way for opportunity to participate in more engaged and difficult conversations, which was something I demanded well in advance of recent current events — I am an exhausting person, yes, but everyone knows where I stand. And most (but not all) default to trusting the information they derive from me, despite me knowing they are blindly trusting my (limited) authority.
Why?
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Whether coated in honey or vinegar the base of shit at the bottom is still shit, but the honey for its qualities makes the better fly trap
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[ - ] Mr7Slug 1 point 2.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 16:32:41 ago (+1/-0)
What i trust when i hear from others is what i can confirm and find supporting evidence for. Trust nothing without being able to check for yourself. Ever.
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[ - ] Battlefat [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 29, 2021 16:37:21 ago (+0/-0)
Then it is implied that from personal effort comes trust — those who would trust blindly do so at their own peril