Its "dangerous", so get vaccinated says the govt. Even though these vaccines dont grant immunity We are having record numbers of late So let's open up international borders but not domestic ones.
Classic shell game at this stage, follow the ball and the cup.
I take it you ain't gunna get the jab, UD? I don't mean to brag but I got a hit of Astrazeneca the other day. Was I worried? Yeah I was a bit nervous.Am I gunna be that 1 in a million? Started to think how that poor bugger in Tas (age 40) must have been thinking. Woke up-felt fine - went for the jab and died. The fragility of life. And while on this topic as I can tell you're interested in my ravings...I reckon we die from a left-field event. We prepare for those shark teeth to rip into us but...we trip over and hit our head as we're leaving the beach.
People are being coerced into taking a provisionally released experimental medication or risk being locked out of society.
These vaccines do not grant immunity (100%), they purportedly affront a limited protection in reducing symptoms; somewhat contrary to all evidence now exhibited overseas about infection and reinfection rates.
Even at 100% vaccinations, there is still an undeniably large risk of reinfection.
There is a larger risk of further mutated strains under current modeling.
Efficacy is based on Alpha strain not Delta in trials from 2020.
Immunoglobulins (IgA, IgG, IgM) wear off after 3months with viral respiratory infections, so the jab even if it was 100% effective would be 0% after 3 months.
There are over 470 reported deaths as a direct result from one (AZ, Moderna, Pfizer) shot.
Over 47K adverse reactions, severe acute symptoms like organ failure and crippling disease, not mild rash and nausea.
People getting their vax and proving it is creating a dystopian Orwellian esq future where you do not have autonomy, freedom, or liberty.
You are enabling the government to continue to micromanage your life in every minute detail. From where you go, what you buy, who you associate with, what you can say, who you say it to, what social activities you can engage in.
bit of truth there namely the vaccine won't prevent reinfection but you probably won't die.
The Astrazeneca is apparently the better of the available vaccines and...it likes me! Looking forward to my second jab.I'm a lucky guy in the Lucky Country.
Hell, UD, when I see you with the other unvaxxed outside the restaurant peering in, hungry, resentful that you're not permitted entry, I'll save you some grub in a doggie bag!
NSW 471 died off the jab to date NSW 207 died from the virus to date, with more than one accompanying co-morbidity factor (many already having one jab counted as unvaccinated) The virus is unequivocally proven to kill less than 1% and several times less than other respiratory infections like the winter flu, it is unnecessary and unwaranted.
You shouldn't be forced to get any jab and Aussies should be sticking up for each other.
Hell, UD, when I see you with the other unvaxxed outside the restaurant peering in, hungry, resentful that you're not permitted entry, I'll save you some grub in a doggie bag!
This is the biggest problem more than the bs jab, if you are actively participating in society post vax and not boycotting companies requiring proof of vaccination, you are enabling a surveillance state and participating in the creation of apartheid.
People forced into vac, willingly vaxxed and unvaxxed in countries like Norway, Spain, Russia all bound together to stop this vax passport nonsense. They value their civil liberties more than us apparently.
I know you're scared. Hell, bro, I was scared too. But you should be scared of the Covid even more. As Astrazeneca's inventor said, one is more likely to get a blood clot from the virus than AZ. But you know, the reason I feel good about getting vaxxed is that it gives me some protection, not so much against the covid, hell a virus has gotta do what a virus has gotta do, but against the c..ts who don't wear masks such as joggers. I don't want to die because of some c..t's selfishness. In a family-friendly forum such as this I can't tell you how much I hate unmasked huffing and puffing joggers.
I'm not scared about an entirely recoverable mild respiratory infection.
I'm worried about people's compliance to authority, how our government is racing through legislation at lightning speed in the months of June, July, August that have already stripped us of many civil liberties and rights to free speech.
As Astrazeneca's inventor said, one is more likely to get a blood clot from the virus than AZ.
So the person who has the most to gain from our tax dollars from handing out an innefective product?
Blood clots are 1:50k for 65+ 1:23.5K for under 30s. Thats a bigger risk than the virus which is 99.6% recoverable for over 60+ and 99.99% recoverable for under 30s. What about the other side-effects?
but against the c..ts who don't wear masks such as joggers.
Beyond proven to the point of ad-nauseum that masks DO NOT stop viral infection. Viruses are smaller than dust particles and most clowns just wear surgical masks.
Hong Kong has some 7.5 million people in a humid tropical setting, 1/3 of the population is sick from the flu at any moment the entire year. They wear the mask out of courtesy not out of health. It doesn't work! They've been using masks there for 20-30years.
There is a greater risk of respiratory infection from being masked all day. Face masks were only designed by surgeons. Respirators by carpenters and miners.
I feel good about getting vaxxed is that it gives me some protection
Modelling out if Israel shows no discernable difference between vaxxed and un vaxxed between transmissibility and reinfection from several studies last month. They are near identical in every metric.
In fact the vaccine makes you 13x more likely to again get covid as a novel corona virus and 27x more likely to transmit it to others.
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 00:53:06 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 01:23:19 ago (+2/-0)
People are being coerced into taking a provisionally released experimental medication or risk being locked out of society.
These vaccines do not grant immunity (100%), they purportedly affront a limited protection in reducing symptoms; somewhat contrary to all evidence now exhibited overseas about infection and reinfection rates.
Even at 100% vaccinations, there is still an undeniably large risk of reinfection.
There is a larger risk of further mutated strains under current modeling.
Efficacy is based on Alpha strain not Delta in trials from 2020.
Immunoglobulins (IgA, IgG, IgM) wear off after 3months with viral respiratory infections, so the jab even if it was 100% effective would be 0% after 3 months.
There are over 470 reported deaths as a direct result from one (AZ, Moderna, Pfizer) shot.
Over 47K adverse reactions, severe acute symptoms like organ failure and crippling disease, not mild rash and nausea.
People getting their vax and proving it is creating a dystopian Orwellian esq future where you do not have autonomy, freedom, or liberty.
You are enabling the government to continue to micromanage your life in every minute detail. From where you go, what you buy, who you associate with, what you can say, who you say it to, what social activities you can engage in.
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 08:38:31 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 01:30:27 ago (+0/-1)
The Astrazeneca is apparently the better of the available vaccines and...it likes me! Looking forward to my second jab.I'm a lucky guy in the Lucky Country.
Hell, UD, when I see you with the other unvaxxed outside the restaurant peering in, hungry, resentful that you're not permitted entry, I'll save you some grub in a doggie bag!
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 3 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 01:46:19 ago (+3/-0)
NSW 207 died from the virus to date, with more than one accompanying co-morbidity factor (many already having one jab counted as unvaccinated)
The virus is unequivocally proven to kill less than 1% and several times less than other respiratory infections like the winter flu, it is unnecessary and unwaranted.
You shouldn't be forced to get any jab and Aussies should be sticking up for each other.
This is the biggest problem more than the bs jab, if you are actively participating in society post vax and not boycotting companies requiring proof of vaccination, you are enabling a surveillance state and participating in the creation of apartheid.
People forced into vac, willingly vaxxed and unvaxxed in countries like Norway, Spain, Russia all bound together to stop this vax passport nonsense. They value their civil liberties more than us apparently.
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 01:54:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug [op] 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 10, 2021 02:07:20 ago (+2/-0)
I'm not scared about an entirely recoverable mild respiratory infection.
I'm worried about people's compliance to authority, how our government is racing through legislation at lightning speed in the months of June, July, August that have already stripped us of many civil liberties and rights to free speech.
Blood clots are 1:50k for 65+ 1:23.5K for under 30s. Thats a bigger risk than the virus which is 99.6% recoverable for over 60+ and 99.99% recoverable for under 30s.
What about the other side-effects?
Beyond proven to the point of ad-nauseum that masks DO NOT stop viral infection. Viruses are smaller than dust particles and most clowns just wear surgical masks.
Hong Kong has some 7.5 million people in a humid tropical setting, 1/3 of the population is sick from the flu at any moment the entire year. They wear the mask out of courtesy not out of health. It doesn't work! They've been using masks there for 20-30years.
There is a greater risk of respiratory infection from being masked all day. Face masks were only designed by surgeons. Respirators by carpenters and miners.
Modelling out if Israel shows no discernable difference between vaxxed and un vaxxed between transmissibility and reinfection from several studies last month.
They are near identical in every metric.
In fact the vaccine makes you 13x more likely to again get covid as a novel corona virus and 27x more likely to transmit it to others.