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Why is @PeterPanWannabe allowed to Manipulate Site Functions and not be banned?

submitted by cyclops1771 to AskUpgoat 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 19:12:31 ago (+25/-1)     (AskUpgoat)

Why does @System @Cynabuns allow a user to intentionally Manipulate site functions, as is against the Site rules (#4)?

This user banned me (and others) from his personal subverse and then intentionally @mentioned us from that sub while libeling us so that we could not respond.

This is blatant Site function manipulation, not to mention harassment.

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=61084336a2065



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[ - ] system 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 19:52:25 ago (+4/-3)

This user banned me (and others)

How is that manipulation?

from his personal subverse

It's his subverse.

and then intentionally @mentioned us from that sub while libeling us so that we could not respond.

Sounds like SBBH.

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 6 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 21:00:40 ago (+7/-1)

Are you tired of this gay drama? Because I am, these autistic retards did this for years on Voat, just spamming the front page with fake gay e-drama. As if anyone gives a shit what these stupid little highschool cliques are doing in their private chats.

[ - ] cyclops1771 [op] 5 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 21:45:49 ago (+5/-0)

It's because this fag pinged me after banning me from his little sub. I asked what he meant by "disinfo." I didn;t start any shit with anybody. I've Dv'd 109 times since day 1, and I dare say that most of those were itsgettingcloser.

[ - ] ruck_feddit 6 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:10:16 ago (+6/-0)

109 times

[ - ] cyclops1771 [op] 4 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:17:10 ago (+4/-0)*

kek. Someone got the joke.

[ - ] cyclops1771 [op] 6 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 21:41:55 ago (+7/-1)

How is that manipulation?

Setting up a sub that I cannot post to, and then making blatant lies against me, pinging and mentioning me? He is specifically using the site functionality - banning and then pinging me so I can't respond to manipulate it.

It's his subverse.

Then stop him from pinging people that he bans.

Sounds like SBBH.

Yep. and I've banned gabara way more times than you have. Speaking of, you sitewide banned them, but you won;t sitewide ban this guy for doing exactly what you said they wee doing? And now he's spamming the system? You kicked of shitsinhoneypots for doing what he is doing.

[ - ] system 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:00:45 ago (+4/-1)

Yep. and I've banned gabara way more times than you have. Speaking of, you sitewide banned them, but you won;t sitewide ban this guy for doing exactly what you said they wee doing? And now he's spamming the system? You kicked of shitsinhoneypots for doing what he is doing.

It's amazing to me how this stuff just gets made up. Gabara was banned for using multiple accounts to vote multiple times on the same content. I've found him doing this before and gave him a warning. So when I saw he was doing it again, there was no question to ban him. This has nothing to do with shitsinhoneypots unless he is Gabara. I am willing to give back Gabara his account if he will simply follow the rules and not manipulate votes like a jew.

[ - ] cyclops1771 [op] 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:19:13 ago (+2/-0)

No, I am saying that I have banned gabara from subs that I have owned on voat.co multiple times. Every time I would let him back in, eventually, he'd muck everything up when he got bored. So, ban again.

Do you have a banned user list like voat.co did?

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 14:41:12 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] incellivision 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:56:57 ago (+3/-2)

It's amazing to me how this stuff just gets made up. Gabara was banned for using multiple accounts to vote multiple times on the same content. I've found him doing this before and gave him a warning.

Which Dial is doing now and you're dismissing because it's in his own subverse just like gabara.

[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:21:21 ago (+2/-0)

Which Dial is doing now and you're dismissing because it's in his own subverse just like gabara.

Where is the evidence of that? The only reason I looked into voting in Gabara's case is because he or another SBBH posted like 10 porn pics, upvoted them all equally, and successfully countered any downvotes received. It was obviously manipulation to anyone who saw the threads. You were involved. As well as Gabara, where there was evidence he was using multiple accounts to vote. And given that I gave him a warning for this previously, I banned him. These thread's votes were so obviously manipulated, that I believe you guys wanted it to be obvious, to cause drama or whatever the reason is you guys do what you do.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:39:10 ago (+1/-1)

But you just said it was okay for Dial to do all of that because he was posting to his own subverse. Cynabuns kept disabling subverses they were posting to so they stated posting to all. And half the accounts you claim were upvoting the porn posts had earlier been disabled by @cynabuns so they were clearly not involved.

You know what I think. You and cynabuns didn't talk and you accidentally manufactured a tempest in a teapot and now you're paying for over reacting to a problem YOU created.

[ - ] Cynabuns 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:49:44 ago (+0/-0)

I do not have the ability to disable subverses.

Once an account is banned or disabled, it cannot vote.

Also, dial received a temp ban for spamming v/all.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:53:23 ago (+1/-1)

LIAR! You removed their subverses from the feed, disabling them.

[ - ] Cynabuns 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:55:38 ago (+0/-0)

Only @system has that ability.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:59:41 ago (+1/-1)

LIAR! Do you think lying helps your case? v/randomnumbers ring a bell? Uh huh. They were just doing there thing like they always did on real Voat, and you shut them down because you're a fool.
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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 5, 2021 21:03:26 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 6, 2021 02:22:11 ago (+2/-0)

I have to use multiple account and always said I have because sbbh goons will kill my account as soon as they can

At least here they cannot kill your account. Negative accounts are limited to posting every 5 minutes and cannot post links, but can post them in as a discussion post. Less harsh than voat.co 10 posts a day I believe. So why not stick to 1 account? If you believe you are being excessively downvoted send me a PM and I would look into it.

i was blocking people for a little bit to find out who was spammin anon due to thing. but really got board of it and gave up

Thanks for the reminder to fix this.

Either way just chill out man. SBBH apparently has, for now at least. Making threats and demands isn't a good way to get what you want me with. I built this place for us all, you, me, sbbh, the average voater, everyone. I've tried hard to keep that cohesion. Was I successful? Sort of I believe. I am not perfect, you are not perfect, no one is. We should all appreciate the commonalities we have between us as goats and stop in-fighting over petty nonsense. Why not pick fights on reddit? It's way more fun.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 8, 2021 10:44:50 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] system 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 02:15:48 ago (+1/-0)

no they havent, you are friends with them all...

No I am not. I never got close enough to anyone on voat.co to consider them a friend. I stayed out of the drama and was relatively unknown. I liked it this way.

dont try even once to wool over my eyes, you wouldnt do shit to help my account. one perfect example JM, even my orginal dialsghost account.

You never reached out to me.

you are bias

I try not to be, but my bias has worked in your favor more than you realize.

why would gabaras account still be around? he has posted and SPAMMED far greater worse things than JM has ever done. Why has his account never been dv'd to shit. they run alts thru boxes and tor and vpn, gabara has screen shots of him using tor

His account is still banned.

Just admit it, i can run through your old account and find every comment i need to refute you

Go ahead.

but yeah I'll chill and let goons post memed bullshit typ of that hack Fuentes

Thank you. Acting like how you were isn't how you get my attention. Sending me a PM is the best way.

also I know YOU manipulate or cyna buns votes +20 button, FUCKING dont say it dont happen, 0 post okay...refresh then +20 multiple times a day.

This is false. This is how trending threads work. They are initially popular, and that popularity makes them more popular. Post good content and you will see how it works.

DO NOT twist my fucking intent around... 95% of the shit about is straight fucking false

Your whole post is false. I've always been anti-SBBH. You can look at my post history on searchvoat.

We could have been good allies. I had and have high respect for anyone who is anti-sbbh. It's a shame you decided to be nasty from the beginning instead of forge a friendship based on that.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 20:33:55 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 21:11:46 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] goatmeetupsanon 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:03:03 ago (+3/-2)*

Either run this place like Voat, or change the name.

P.S. You're the one making shit up.

[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:23:26 ago (+2/-0)

What have I made up?

[ - ] goatmeetupsanon -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:54:03 ago (+1/-2)

You know what you made up. Fuck you.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 11:42:55 ago (+1/-1)

Either run this place like Voat, or change the name.

Seconded.

[ - ] heygeorge 4 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:06:33 ago (+4/-0)

Enh, cyclops has always been a bit dramatic.

1. Dial did earn himself the vote manipulator badge (and a locked account) on original Voat.

2. It does seem a double standard to let dial spam up all/new just because he is doing it a little differently than honeypots did. Which I think merited not only a ban but also removal of the content?

That is all. Thank you for the pen.

[ - ] cyclops1771 [op] 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:21:33 ago (+3/-0)

I get a gander up when people fuck with me, true. I don't have alts to fall back on, so it means more, I suppose.

[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:16:16 ago (+3/-1)

Ok, I know what he's referring to now with shitsinhoneypots, that was not my doing but the ban was warranted. There is a clear difference between posting about something you're passionate too often, and filling up pages of the site with random crap. The difference is intent.

[ - ] heygeorge 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:14:55 ago (+3/-1)

I can’t imagine dial’s intent being for the good of the site, if that’s what you’re implying. Shits is also passionate, and for that matter Gabs. I think they believe their content is good.

I can say objectively that both of them contributed far more useful and funny original content both here and at the old home than dial. Although that is setting the bar rather low.

[ - ] system 4 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 23:48:23 ago (+4/-0)

I can say objectively that both of them contributed far more useful and funny original content both here and at the old home than dial. Although that is setting the bar rather low.

Maybe so. But they broke the site's rules and that's what it boils down to. If I found Dial or anyone else breaking the rules I have to enforce them or they're useless. Sure I am not perfect and can be biased but I try not to be. Which is why I warned Gabara the first time. I was never a fan of his, but I do not target users, regardless of how I feel about them. And I don't actively go looking for people to ban. Both Gabara and Shitsinhoneypots brought their bans on themselves.


[ - ] recon_johnny 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 01:42:30 ago (+2/-0)

I can respect this.

I completely dislike the continual spam bullshit that hits the feed, but part of Free Speech is just that. Seeing shit we don't like.

I have, however, seen a trend over the past month or two; from decent, interactive and intelligent posts, to the nonsense we have.

It's not hard to see that eventually you'll lose those that came back here for a reason. Because we all get tired of the nonsense at some point. And then you're left with only the doxxing post drama. And Voat will be dead.

Am offering no solution, I'm appreciative of what the gems we do have. If nothing comes of it, so be it.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 06:43:11 ago (+1/-0)

There is a difference between someone saying something you dont like and someone abusing the system and the community. There should be repercussions for bad behavior.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 14:49:32 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] heygeorge 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 07:16:43 ago (+0/-0)

I don’t disagree with gabara, if that’s indeed what happened. With honepots I’m not even 100% sure what happened because the content is gone?

[ - ] system 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 07:34:39 ago (+1/-0)

With honepots I’m not even 100% sure what happened because the content is gone?

He was mad about gabara. He spammed 100+ posts, covering multiple pages which would have taken forever to properly delete, so it was removed through sql. That being said, looking over my PMs he was originally supposed to be suspended. It is a new feature which he found a way to post through via the "last replied" link so he was banned instead. With that being said, I believe in 2nd chances/warnings, so I will unban him and consider it his suspension/warning.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:40:31 ago (+0/-0)

It wasn't 100 posts. You LIAR!

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:43:22 ago (+0/-0)

@heygeorge he is fucking lying. I only made a dozen posts before I saw banned. I did nothing that was against the rule on Voat. I have NO FUCKING CLUE what this "last replied" link is? Can he prove any of this BULLSHIT?

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:43:23 ago (+0/-0)

@heygeorge he is fucking lying. I only made a dozen posts before I saw banned. I did nothing that was against the rule on Voat. I have NO FUCKING CLUE what this "last replied" link is? Can he prove any of this BULLSHIT?

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:38:47 ago (+0/-0)

@system is still mad at SBBH from his realProtectVoat days. He has to go stock shelves now. https://preview.goatpen.co/pictrs/image/rsiydAMs6z.png

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:29:24 ago (+0/-0)

So then why is Dial still here but gabara was kicked off? You treat people unevenly.

[ - ] heygeorge 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 21:52:43 ago (+0/-0)

I am not perfect and can be biased but I try not to be.

It seems like this has quickly gone out the window. Fucking autists

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 06:36:11 ago (+2/-0)

Posting several dozen threads all with zero content is spam. None of those threads contain even a single sentence to explain. Just a pointing finger.

Grow a spine and protect the site you've created you woman.

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 08:19:03 ago (+1/-0)

This is why I clog up chat and make it unusable whenever these users are on. They think "it's just spam bro what's the big deal" until suddenly the website becomes literally unusable for them because their inbox is flooded with unreadable garbage. This needs to be addressed now or Voat will die. Putt and the old Voat lost half it's user base and shut down because of this crap.

[ - ] Cynabuns 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 5, 2021 12:20:11 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 0 points 2 days ago (+1/-1)

This is why I clog up chat and make it unusable whenever these users are on. They think "it's just spam bro what's the big deal" until suddenly the website becomes literally unusable for them because their inbox is flooded with unreadable garbage. This needs to be addressed now or Voat will die. Putt and the old Voat lost half it's user base and shut down because of this crap.
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Good to know.

[ - ] account deleted by user -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 21:08:06 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] heygeorge 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 22:15:03 ago (+1/-0)

A fake what? See you next time you log into this Alt

[ - ] incellivision 3 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:54:41 ago (+5/-2)

So then why was Gabara banned for doing the same thing in his own subverse?

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:26:36 ago (+0/-0)

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. Enjoy your summer project!

[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:28:21 ago (+2/-0)

Go to goatpen already.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:30:08 ago (+0/-0)

Stop calling this place Voat already.

[ - ] system 2 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:31:22 ago (+2/-0)

Aww your little faggot SBBH circle jerk cant do shit here, Boofucking hoo you pathetic little piece of shit.

[ - ] incellivision -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:32:14 ago (+0/-1)

Such vile language from 19 year old working on their summer project.

[ - ] account deleted by user -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 9, 2021 22:43:51 ago (+0/-1)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 19:16:21 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] PuttitoutIsGone 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 06:50:42 ago (+0/-0)

He's just that retarded kid that collect the shopping carts in the parking lot.

[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 22:53:47 ago (+3/-3)

#FreeGabara

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 14:49:49 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] incellivision 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 15:50:38 ago (+0/-0)

You do realize I have my own website with Blackjack and Hookers, right?

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:17:16 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] incellivision -1 points 2.8 yearsAug 3, 2021 16:25:18 ago (+0/-1)

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 2, 2021 19:41:47 ago (+2/-2)

The one eyed monster has a few points