> i remember he "predicted" a bunch of stuff years ago
Regular people are not beyond making good assessments of the future, but it helps when the person making a prediction is an insider. For the rest of us on the outside, it takes a lot of effort to work out the details of whats narrative, and whats truth.
U.s funded, israeli manufactured (companies owned by them through american proxies), british pushed, developed in china.
> Pearl Harbor
U.s. pushed for, and knew, carried out by Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki tacitly allowed by the emperor because the condition of surrender without morale-devestating attacks would have lead to the deposing of the emperial family (and likely death), and continued fighting (and death) of Japanese.
> Gulf of Tonkin
Done by the u.s.
> MLK
Soviet and israeli, with british help.
> Mandalay Bay shooting
U.s. intelligence, botched raid on saudi royals.
> JFK assassination
Too many enemies to list, anyone could have done it.
Good to keep findings in say a file for each, in a cabinet, in say, a storage unit, the same way intelligence agencies keep their assessments of events, or the way institutions of a regime make reports that orient a government on various facts and determinations, i.e. "institutional truth".
Because without "muh paperwork", what we consider truth is reduced to opinion, and opinion is too easily changeable with circumstance and propaganda.
> I'm guessing it's a government professional. We'll never know the truth.
Yup. I disagree on never knowing the truth though.
The truth movement got its very first start during the JFK assassination, went mainstream after 9/11, and has only gone to ground, embedded, grown, and hardened ever since.
Every secret the u.s. has kept sooner or later will come out, because all throughout history men have been willing to go to any end to know reality from fiction.
"Is it because of the holocaust you (Israel) should be allowed to have nuclear weapons?"
I think thats a fair question, that only someone who was arrogant would refuse to answer.
Any nation and their representative that was being intellectually honest, would be willing to answer such a question.
The fact that they weren't actually says TWO things:
1. israel does have a nuclear program
2. the holocaust is an excuse for such, and they know as much.
As far as excuses go, no sovereign nation needs any for what it decides to do internally. Each nation is free, or should be, to follow whatever policies its ruling regime sees best for their own interests.
On the otherhand, when you agree to an interview, *and then* refuse to deal honestly, thats on you.
And I'll explain why he didn't want to:
It's a have-your-cake-and-eat it moment.
Answering honestly presuposes a fairness doctrine, that if israel were allowed to have weapons, why shouldn't any other nation?
And second, to avoid that, the only out here is "yes, because the holocaust", which doesn't work because 1. it was more than half a century ago and its a distant abstraction now, not merely to new generations, but even to most living politicians and world leaders.
And 2. a card used too many times is a card overplayed and easily exhausted when most parties today, individually, have no culpability in the holocaust, feel like they owe nothing in any given negotiation because of this very lack of culpability, and are tired of heavy-handed negotiations and one-sided policies that end in the inexplicable and obviously absurd reason of "because the holocaust, thats why."
Like what does the fucking holocaust have to do with a yearly mega-ton turnip tarrif trade agreement between Indonesia and Israel? Absolutely fucking nothing to Indonesia.
And yet I guarantee you, at some time or another, there have been dozens or more likely several hundred agreements and negotiations and policy disputes between organizations and nations involved with israel, and when the chips were down, the final card was "agree with us because the holocaust."
They've tuned it out. And it becomes easier, year on year, for people to shut that down, at least in internal discussions, and say "look, every nation and group of people has experienced hard times. It doesn't give you or permit special privileges status due to victimhood."
And privately I'm sure theres been a lot of discussion in negotiations that amounts to "can you believe these people? And how many fucking Israelis on wallstreet and in london FINANCED hitler?"
It's like some kids dog dying, and two years later, dad's like "your dog died timmy, its time to fucking get over it, and mow the damn lawn instead of using it as an excuse to get out of chores."
Fundementally if Israel doesn't want to lose further legitimacy, it must grow into maturity, and do the hardwork of appearing respectable on the world stage, and dealing with its allies, let alone opposition, plainly.
"we have a nuclear program to protect ourselves. And obviously it is against our national interests that opposition nation's have their own, nations which have also expressed hostility to western nations like america and britain"
would have been a far more honest, and respectable answer, befitting a mature nation and its spokeperson, than shutting the conversation down like a teenager afraid to answer simple and direct questions.
Irrespective of what other people's opinions on Israel are, talking simple pragmatics, if Israel is going to last it has to grow up, and engage in discourse that makes sense.
You know who engaged in ultimatums, total war, and arrogance? Ghangis Khan. He was famous. He was a badass. He is remembered now, centuries out. Ghangis Khan died. His empire disintegrated, and was changed and absorbed beyond all recognition, as well as much of his culture.
Because while being the biggest badass on the block is cool an all, its teenage shit, and eventually beyond force, you have to project legitimacy if you don't want opponents to team up against you when they grow tired of the bravado.
Nations are young because they often don't last, like stars that flare up and burn out quickly from how hot they burn. And in the process of nation building, it is like old men in professions where men die young: They build quiet confidence, that inspires respect. They don't need to shut down interactions, because they have the answers, and strength to back it up.
This spokesman projects none of those qualities, and ill-serves his host nation because of it.
> In her first term, Hortman was an outspoken advocate for the Northstar Commuter Rail line, which runs through her district. She also supported a new stadium for the Minnesota Twins. She was an advocate for environmental issues and the effort to bring the 2020 Summer Olympics to Minnesota. She was pro-choice,[5] supported gun control policies,[6] and opposed voter identification initiatives.[7] In 2008, Hortman managed the DFL floor operation during a successful attempt to override then-Governor Tim Pawlenty's veto of a gas tax increase.[8] While chair of the Energy Policy Committee, she was the chief author of the state's solar energy standard and community solar laws.[9][10] Hortman served as minority leader from 2017 to 2019[2][11] and as speaker from 2019 to 2025. In April 2017, Hortman drew attention when she criticized several Republican representatives for playing a card game in the retiring room off the house chamber during discussions on a public safety budget bill. Specifically, she called attention to the fact that the game was occurring while two Democratic women from ethnic minorities were delivering personal speeches. Hortman continue to back her statement, while some Republicans called for her to resign.[12]
> i'm not surprised anymore after reading and seen so many abuses from 2020 and earlier. one thing i know i will not be injecting myself with any vaccine now or in the future.
They'll put it into the meat, some meats they already have. They are working on genetically engineering it into vegetables.
So you'll grow your own meat and veggies. They'll tax or regulate you. If they can't, they'll raise your property taxes. If you get politicians in office to stop it (fat chance), those politicians will be threatened by 'randoms', blackmailed, bribed, or their family members will be, or their businesses will be destroyed, etc, until they're replaced with other leaders who also say the right things, but who are controlled and will be tasked to actively fail to keep their policy promises, managed into failure to stop the government and industry's agendas.
They'll start social movements that will see neurotic randoms come out of the woodwork, people with slogans like "meat is murder", "and only antivaxxers grow gardens", or "gardens are bad for the environment".
You'll see town and county regulations on this slowly. The same lunatics will commit random "anonymous calls" to get you debanked, your business shutdown (or mobbed), they'll show up to your business wearing trump hats, or dressed as conservatives, or pretending to be christians, looking to strike up conversations to ascertain where you stand, and take anything you say out of context in order to post it online to their private chat groups in discord or bluesky, whereupon others you've never met will then engage in these same tactics. Your tires will end up slashed. Random broken windows. Your gas tank will end up with sugar or liquid metal in it. They'll spread rumors about you but you won't know, it will just be people distancing themselves. Your name will be shared by radicals in these same chat groups who also have jobs or work as third party contractors at intelligence agencies such as the NSA. Like zersetzung, your life, business, and everything you hold dear will slowly be dissolved by 'random' 'unfortunate circumstances'.
All of this will happen slowly, sometimes quickly on particular years, depending on public mood. The manufactured riots of regime supporters 'antifascists' (or some flavor) will be allowed to get out of control, enough to push compliance with the agenda a little further, while the prosecutions and efforts to stop these, will often come too little and too late. The police and intelligence efforts will be made to look like something is being done, where they will throw us a bone while throwing a few of their own under the bus. Meanwhile counterprotests and counter civil movements will be met with breakup operations, just an ever so slightly (or severely) stronger response from police, infiltration, attacks from regime supporters who are readily and provably connected to the regime (which the regime will simply deny). One party will push this, while the other party intentionally waffles in ever longer calls of 'investigations' (that go nowhere), 'strongly wordeed letters' (that are ignored), news articles in controlled walled-gardens (which main-stream platforms will push non-regime supporters into), the titles of which will be 'bam!', 'happening!', 'so and so grilled xyz villain of the day!', 'bombshell dropped!' to convince you maybe you are winning, while nothing meaningful but low-level players are inconvenienced, while the agenda continues.
You will slowly be convinced nothing can be done, and no political solutions are viable, while paradoxically paralyzed by the strung-out news feed drip of just enough hope to make you complacent.
The media will likewise, including the 'alt' news personalities and podcasts, divert the public narrative and discourse into meaningless minutae, arguments over the high hill, and questions that never lead to solutions, but instead encourage you to atomize, follow false hope, and false manufactured leaders, each who, if they get too big, will take a fall, or betray their supporters. The mainstream media in turn will continue to demonize one side, while propagandizing the middle, controlling what is and is not acceptable discourse, helping to promote the very manufactured leadership that will betray you, by using their very demonization to promote, in your mind, the 'bonafides' of the leadership they have elected *for* you.
You will conveniently never see discussion of regulating the media, nor reversing pharmaceutical spending on ads (which is largely what is being used to fund all this), nor reversing intelligence agency's input to the media, nor reversing the smith-mundt modernization act. If you do, all it will ever be is talk, talk, talk. If anything is done, it will fail in committee, or be so watered-down that five, ten, twenty other solutions and organizations for this propaganda will be pushed through as a result.
Eventually if enough people refuse, the military or private contractors with the DOD, will simply spray the populace with the 'vaccine'.
I know this because all of this can and has happened at various smaller scales.
These people are the enemy, and will never stop trying to destroy and kill you, your family, and everyone else who disagrees with their monomaniacal desire to control us.
There are no political solutions to these subhuman pests.
They must be routed thoroughly and completely out of power, and driven straight into gulags, along with anyone who has ever known them, worked with them, associated with them, funded them, or sympathized with them. And this must be done without mercy, human empathy, or an ounce of respect for their rights or dignity. Not a single individual, down to the man or women, involved at any level, even passing acceptance of these things, can be allowed to continue as american or western citizens.
They are not human, and not deserving of dignified treatment. They are a cancer that should be cut out at the root, and the least radical option is putting all of them in work camps, forever, until even the very memory of them is forgotten.
There are no political solutions.
We are in a war against an illegitimate, criminal occupation of our government. And every record, every communication, every covert policy, ever 'top secret' and 'compartmentalized' operation must be exposed publicly, completely, unredacted, brought to light fully so the people of the u.s., britain, france, germany, canada, and every other western nation, can see what has been done in their name, what IS being done in their names, too them, with their money.
And then the cards will be on the table, and all bets will be off.
I will remind you of what a shitstorm the revelation of cointelpro was, and how that went on for *decades* with not a peep from congress.
Your government, your stock market, your corporations, your finance, your news corporations, NGOs, and intelligence agencies. All of them are your enemy, and the people that run it, know fully what they are doing, and either go along with it, or believe in these policies, and they will never stop trying to control you and your family and your fellow citizens, to take everything you have, even your right to say no to a vaccine, or if you refuse, they'll never stop trying to destroy you.
> You really think after the millions of shitskins that have been let in the past 20 years, none of them are radicalized to hate America by Islam? LMFAO
I didn't say there aren't islamic extremists in the u.s.
I specifically wrote that iran doesn't control a meaningful number of iranian cells specifically.
> If Iran really wanted to do some damage they would activate their terror cells on US soil
Iran does not have terror cells in the u.s. in any meaningful or effective measure, which is why you have not seen attacks by them.
A number of other nations do: the chinese, the ukrainians, the israelis, the british, the french, the germans, the south africans, the venezuelans, the mexicans, the sauds, and a raft of others.
Let me explain how international blackmail works: Every nation knows every other nation's dirty laundry. The term of art is "ties that bind."
By knowing these things it changes their political calculus, even when silo'd strategies aren't communicated between partner nations, they each understand where their red lines and intelligence 'borders' are, in terms of what will trigger one country or another going completely off script. So they work around each other, mindful of what is and is not tacitly permitted.
If it ever suited u.s. interests, conglomerate corporate-intelligence junta interests, you could and would see them come right out and say israel did 9/11, irrespective of if every one of the decision makers were jewish.
It's a covert affiliation marker, not a guarantor of absolute fealty. Thats how psychopaths operate.
And all the institutional sub-regime's and silos filter for those lacking human empathy, all the ways at the top, and on through to the very bottom tiers of power and influence.
> so far Trump and Netynahoo haven't replied...so who "doesn't" want peace now?
A significant coalition of factions in the u.s. want nothing to do with a war against iran. Some related to oil interests, some related to pro-islamic factions, some because they see the follow-on war with russia as unwinnable.
Likewise in israel, some factions have concluded it is suicide.
I suspect the suicidal messianic faction will win out and strike iran anyway, with or without manufacturing an attack on a western nation to justify a war against iran.
> Iran has no reason to strike the US or Israel without provocation.
It doesn't matter if Iran strikes first with or without provocation. They immediately give israel a cause for war, and the u.s. will get dragged into it. The u.s. regime has factions, some of them want a war, some of them don't.
None of them want the follow-on war with russia.
> If anything happens where it's alleged to be Iran, it will be a false flag.
If Iran doesn't attack first, yes, there is likely to be some sort of false attack blamed on them or allies of theirs.
The critical difference is those false-flag attacks leave breadcrumbs, that can, like threads, be pulled on to force the u.s. to back off sooner or later down the line. Sort of like how 9/11 was used as leverage against israel and saudi arabia in some backchannel agreements.
> what about antifa, those white useful Soro's idiots,
Antifa are a boogieman invented by the universities and the regime.
Much like the boogaloo boys, the kkk, and dozens of other front-groups run by the domestic intelligence apparatus.
> Well at least they made all of 157 arrests yesterday, at that break neck speed they nab a whopping 155,760 in the remainder of trumpstein's term.
Trump is hindenburg. Just enough hope while things go to shit, to soften us up ahead of 'the real deal'.
My pet theory is the intelligence junta that runs the u.s. wants to go the post-weimer route for a variety of reasons.
One to subvert the dollar so we can renounce the debt. Once the debt is out of the way, and the country has moved through, and then out of decades of demoralization, they put in another candidate vis-a-vis the actualization of the business plot, and then ramp up the (currently) incipient reindustrialization. Once remoralization is in high gear, the u.s. preps for and goes to ww3 with commiserate depopulation of the excess/unneeded population.
This pulls double-time because the hyper-form of hybrid war, carried out by foreign intelligence here (with the tacit support of the u.s. domestic regime) using dissatisfied citizen-proxies, creates the perfect excuse to pivot from finance-based economies to mass centralization to cope with growing population (which will be slowed, but not stopped), in much the same way china's form of government is more efficient (and brutal) for managing billions of people, unlike our current form of covert private-public partnership masquerading as a 'democratic republic'.
In that regard, they'll re-export a lot of problem demographics, but it will be nowhere near the numbers anyone wants.
The imports are here as warm bodies to lower wages, and boost raw birthrates ahead of a planned world war, because while winners are likely already decided, china *also* has excess dissatisfied population, and a military that wants its wars. And no side can really be seen to definitively win outright, without elimination population and wracking up enormous debt that makes it easier to control them.
The long term strategy is to delegitimize the very idea and system of regions-as-nations or independent geopolitical entities. This was always a contingency plan if mutually-reinforcing tightly-interlocking economic policies couldn't force a gradual series of mergers, but someone(s) at some time decided the current pace was too slow so they went with the war model instead.
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> i remember he "predicted" a bunch of stuff years ago
Regular people are not beyond making good assessments of the future, but it helps when the person making a prediction is an insider. For the rest of us on the outside, it takes a lot of effort to work out the details of whats narrative, and whats truth.
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> Covid?
U.s funded, israeli manufactured (companies owned by them through american proxies), british pushed, developed in china.
> Pearl Harbor
U.s. pushed for, and knew, carried out by Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki tacitly allowed by the emperor because the condition of surrender without morale-devestating attacks would have lead to the deposing of the emperial family (and likely death), and continued fighting (and death) of Japanese.
> Gulf of Tonkin
Done by the u.s.
> MLK
Soviet and israeli, with british help.
> Mandalay Bay shooting
U.s. intelligence, botched raid on saudi royals.
> JFK assassination
Too many enemies to list, anyone could have done it.
Good to keep findings in say a file for each, in a cabinet, in say, a storage unit, the same way intelligence agencies keep their assessments of events, or the way institutions of a regime make reports that orient a government on various facts and determinations, i.e. "institutional truth".
Because without "muh paperwork", what we consider truth is reduced to opinion, and opinion is too easily changeable with circumstance and propaganda.
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prototype 0 points 2 hours ago
The soft version of what I wrote is "take everything and everyone with a grain of salt, and hold em at arms length at all times."
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prototype 1 point 3 hours ago
> I'm guessing it's a government professional. We'll never know the truth.
Yup. I disagree on never knowing the truth though.
The truth movement got its very first start during the JFK assassination, went mainstream after 9/11, and has only gone to ground, embedded, grown, and hardened ever since.
Every secret the u.s. has kept sooner or later will come out, because all throughout history men have been willing to go to any end to know reality from fiction.
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prototype 2 points 3 hours ago
> can't be sure of anything
We can make reasonable, and informative guesses though.
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> The guy who keyed the car was correctly identified.
I seriously doubt it. The evidence says otherwise.
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"Is it because of the holocaust you (Israel) should be allowed to have nuclear weapons?"
I think thats a fair question, that only someone who was arrogant would refuse to answer.
Any nation and their representative that was being intellectually honest, would be willing to answer such a question.
The fact that they weren't actually says TWO things:
1. israel does have a nuclear program
2. the holocaust is an excuse for such, and they know as much.
As far as excuses go, no sovereign nation needs any for what it decides to do internally. Each nation is free, or should be, to follow whatever policies its ruling regime sees best for their own interests.
On the otherhand, when you agree to an interview, *and then* refuse to deal honestly, thats on you.
And I'll explain why he didn't want to:
It's a have-your-cake-and-eat it moment.
Answering honestly presuposes a fairness doctrine, that if israel were allowed to have weapons, why shouldn't any other nation?
And second, to avoid that, the only out here is "yes, because the holocaust", which doesn't work because 1. it was more than half a century ago and its a distant abstraction now, not merely to new generations, but even to most living politicians and world leaders.
And 2. a card used too many times is a card overplayed and easily exhausted when most parties today, individually, have no culpability in the holocaust, feel like they owe nothing in any given negotiation because of this very lack of culpability, and are tired of heavy-handed negotiations and one-sided policies that end in the inexplicable and obviously absurd reason of "because the holocaust, thats why."
Like what does the fucking holocaust have to do with a yearly mega-ton turnip tarrif trade agreement between Indonesia and Israel? Absolutely fucking nothing to Indonesia.
And yet I guarantee you, at some time or another, there have been dozens or more likely several hundred agreements and negotiations and policy disputes between organizations and nations involved with israel, and when the chips were down, the final card was "agree with us because the holocaust."
They've tuned it out. And it becomes easier, year on year, for people to shut that down, at least in internal discussions, and say "look, every nation and group of people has experienced hard times. It doesn't give you or permit special privileges status due to victimhood."
And privately I'm sure theres been a lot of discussion in negotiations that amounts to "can you believe these people? And how many fucking Israelis on wallstreet and in london FINANCED hitler?"
It's like some kids dog dying, and two years later, dad's like "your dog died timmy, its time to fucking get over it, and mow the damn lawn instead of using it as an excuse to get out of chores."
Fundementally if Israel doesn't want to lose further legitimacy, it must grow into maturity, and do the hardwork of appearing respectable on the world stage, and dealing with its allies, let alone opposition, plainly.
"we have a nuclear program to protect ourselves. And obviously it is against our national interests that opposition nation's have their own, nations which have also expressed hostility to western nations like america and britain"
would have been a far more honest, and respectable answer, befitting a mature nation and its spokeperson, than shutting the conversation down like a teenager afraid to answer simple and direct questions.
Irrespective of what other people's opinions on Israel are, talking simple pragmatics, if Israel is going to last it has to grow up, and engage in discourse that makes sense.
You know who engaged in ultimatums, total war, and arrogance? Ghangis Khan. He was famous. He was a badass. He is remembered now, centuries out. Ghangis Khan died. His empire disintegrated, and was changed and absorbed beyond all recognition, as well as much of his culture.
Because while being the biggest badass on the block is cool an all, its teenage shit, and eventually beyond force, you have to project legitimacy if you don't want opponents to team up against you when they grow tired of the bravado.
Nations are young because they often don't last, like stars that flare up and burn out quickly from how hot they burn. And in the process of nation building, it is like old men in professions where men die young: They build quiet confidence, that inspires respect. They don't need to shut down interactions, because they have the answers, and strength to back it up.
This spokesman projects none of those qualities, and ill-serves his host nation because of it.
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prototype 1 point 5 hours ago
Stare contra omne malum.
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prototype 6 points 6 hours ago
Wikipedia on hortman:
> In her first term, Hortman was an outspoken advocate for the Northstar Commuter Rail line, which runs through her district. She also supported a new stadium for the Minnesota Twins. She was an advocate for environmental issues and the effort to bring the 2020 Summer Olympics to Minnesota. She was pro-choice,[5] supported gun control policies,[6] and opposed voter identification initiatives.[7] In 2008, Hortman managed the DFL floor operation during a successful attempt to override then-Governor Tim Pawlenty's veto of a gas tax increase.[8] While chair of the Energy Policy Committee, she was the chief author of the state's solar energy standard and community solar laws.[9][10] Hortman served as minority leader from 2017 to 2019[2][11] and as speaker from 2019 to 2025. In April 2017, Hortman drew attention when she criticized several Republican representatives for playing a card game in the retiring room off the house chamber during discussions on a public safety budget bill. Specifically, she called attention to the fact that the game was occurring while two Democratic women from ethnic minorities were delivering personal speeches. Hortman continue to back her statement, while some Republicans called for her to resign.[12]
I was right. Nothing of value was lost.
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prototype 1 point 6 hours ago
https://archive.is/Sp20u
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prototype 2 points 6 hours ago
> Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., called the victims close friends.......
Is it too early to write "and nothing of value was lost"?
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> i'm not surprised anymore after reading and seen so many abuses from 2020 and earlier. one thing i know i will not be injecting myself with any vaccine now or in the future.
They'll put it into the meat, some meats they already have. They are working on genetically engineering it into vegetables.
So you'll grow your own meat and veggies. They'll tax or regulate you. If they can't, they'll raise your property taxes. If you get politicians in office to stop it (fat chance), those politicians will be threatened by 'randoms', blackmailed, bribed, or their family members will be, or their businesses will be destroyed, etc, until they're replaced with other leaders who also say the right things, but who are controlled and will be tasked to actively fail to keep their policy promises, managed into failure to stop the government and industry's agendas.
They'll start social movements that will see neurotic randoms come out of the woodwork, people with slogans like "meat is murder", "and only antivaxxers grow gardens", or "gardens are bad for the environment".
You'll see town and county regulations on this slowly. The same lunatics will commit random "anonymous calls" to get you debanked, your business shutdown (or mobbed), they'll show up to your business wearing trump hats, or dressed as conservatives, or pretending to be christians, looking to strike up conversations to ascertain where you stand, and take anything you say out of context in order to post it online to their private chat groups in discord or bluesky, whereupon others you've never met will then engage in these same tactics. Your tires will end up slashed. Random broken windows. Your gas tank will end up with sugar or liquid metal in it. They'll spread rumors about you but you won't know, it will just be people distancing themselves. Your name will be shared by radicals in these same chat groups who also have jobs or work as third party contractors at intelligence agencies such as the NSA. Like zersetzung, your life, business, and everything you hold dear will slowly be dissolved by 'random' 'unfortunate circumstances'.
All of this will happen slowly, sometimes quickly on particular years, depending on public mood. The manufactured riots of regime supporters 'antifascists' (or some flavor) will be allowed to get out of control, enough to push compliance with the agenda a little further, while the prosecutions and efforts to stop these, will often come too little and too late. The police and intelligence efforts will be made to look like something is being done, where they will throw us a bone while throwing a few of their own under the bus. Meanwhile counterprotests and counter civil movements will be met with breakup operations, just an ever so slightly (or severely) stronger response from police, infiltration, attacks from regime supporters who are readily and provably connected to the regime (which the regime will simply deny). One party will push this, while the other party intentionally waffles in ever longer calls of 'investigations' (that go nowhere), 'strongly wordeed letters' (that are ignored), news articles in controlled walled-gardens (which main-stream platforms will push non-regime supporters into), the titles of which will be 'bam!', 'happening!', 'so and so grilled xyz villain of the day!', 'bombshell dropped!' to convince you maybe you are winning, while nothing meaningful but low-level players are inconvenienced, while the agenda continues.
You will slowly be convinced nothing can be done, and no political solutions are viable, while paradoxically paralyzed by the strung-out news feed drip of just enough hope to make you complacent.
The media will likewise, including the 'alt' news personalities and podcasts, divert the public narrative and discourse into meaningless minutae, arguments over the high hill, and questions that never lead to solutions, but instead encourage you to atomize, follow false hope, and false manufactured leaders, each who, if they get too big, will take a fall, or betray their supporters. The mainstream media in turn will continue to demonize one side, while propagandizing the middle, controlling what is and is not acceptable discourse, helping to promote the very manufactured leadership that will betray you, by using their very demonization to promote, in your mind, the 'bonafides' of the leadership they have elected *for* you.
You will conveniently never see discussion of regulating the media, nor reversing pharmaceutical spending on ads (which is largely what is being used to fund all this), nor reversing intelligence agency's input to the media, nor reversing the smith-mundt modernization act. If you do, all it will ever be is talk, talk, talk. If anything is done, it will fail in committee, or be so watered-down that five, ten, twenty other solutions and organizations for this propaganda will be pushed through as a result.
Eventually if enough people refuse, the military or private contractors with the DOD, will simply spray the populace with the 'vaccine'.
I know this because all of this can and has happened at various smaller scales.
These people are the enemy, and will never stop trying to destroy and kill you, your family, and everyone else who disagrees with their monomaniacal desire to control us.
There are no political solutions to these subhuman pests.
They must be routed thoroughly and completely out of power, and driven straight into gulags, along with anyone who has ever known them, worked with them, associated with them, funded them, or sympathized with them. And this must be done without mercy, human empathy, or an ounce of respect for their rights or dignity. Not a single individual, down to the man or women, involved at any level, even passing acceptance of these things, can be allowed to continue as american or western citizens.
They are not human, and not deserving of dignified treatment. They are a cancer that should be cut out at the root, and the least radical option is putting all of them in work camps, forever, until even the very memory of them is forgotten.
There are no political solutions.
We are in a war against an illegitimate, criminal occupation of our government. And every record, every communication, every covert policy, ever 'top secret' and 'compartmentalized' operation must be exposed publicly, completely, unredacted, brought to light fully so the people of the u.s., britain, france, germany, canada, and every other western nation, can see what has been done in their name, what IS being done in their names, too them, with their money.
And then the cards will be on the table, and all bets will be off.
I will remind you of what a shitstorm the revelation of cointelpro was, and how that went on for *decades* with not a peep from congress.
Your government, your stock market, your corporations, your finance, your news corporations, NGOs, and intelligence agencies. All of them are your enemy, and the people that run it, know fully what they are doing, and either go along with it, or believe in these policies, and they will never stop trying to control you and your family and your fellow citizens, to take everything you have, even your right to say no to a vaccine, or if you refuse, they'll never stop trying to destroy you.
Your government is the enemy.
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prototype 0 points 21 hours ago
> It is an effective emotional priming tool to get us to react in a controlled way to the stimuli our rulers present to us.
Very keen observation.
I'm pretty cool headed at the moment though. Don't think it much matters which way it goes. I'm not at all attached to the outcome.
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prototype 2 points 21 hours ago
> Your predictions, always interesting, are not always accurate.
Let us hope.
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prototype 0 points 1 day ago
> You really think after the millions of shitskins that have been let in the past 20 years, none of them are radicalized to hate America by Islam? LMFAO
I didn't say there aren't islamic extremists in the u.s.
I specifically wrote that iran doesn't control a meaningful number of iranian cells specifically.
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prototype 0 points 1 day ago*
> If Iran really wanted to do some damage they would activate their terror cells on US soil
Iran does not have terror cells in the u.s. in any meaningful or effective measure, which is why you have not seen attacks by them.
A number of other nations do: the chinese, the ukrainians, the israelis, the british, the french, the germans, the south africans, the venezuelans, the mexicans, the sauds, and a raft of others.
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prototype 0 points 2 days ago
> 9/11 was used against Israel?
Yes, I am saying it was used against them.
Let me explain how international blackmail works: Every nation knows every other nation's dirty laundry. The term of art is "ties that bind."
By knowing these things it changes their political calculus, even when silo'd strategies aren't communicated between partner nations, they each understand where their red lines and intelligence 'borders' are, in terms of what will trigger one country or another going completely off script. So they work around each other, mindful of what is and is not tacitly permitted.
If it ever suited u.s. interests, conglomerate corporate-intelligence junta interests, you could and would see them come right out and say israel did 9/11, irrespective of if every one of the decision makers were jewish.
It's a covert affiliation marker, not a guarantor of absolute fealty. Thats how psychopaths operate.
And all the institutional sub-regime's and silos filter for those lacking human empathy, all the ways at the top, and on through to the very bottom tiers of power and influence.
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prototype 0 points 2 days ago*
> so far Trump and Netynahoo haven't replied...so who "doesn't" want peace now?
A significant coalition of factions in the u.s. want nothing to do with a war against iran. Some related to oil interests, some related to pro-islamic factions, some because they see the follow-on war with russia as unwinnable.
Likewise in israel, some factions have concluded it is suicide.
I suspect the suicidal messianic faction will win out and strike iran anyway, with or without manufacturing an attack on a western nation to justify a war against iran.
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prototype 0 points 2 days ago*
> Iran has no reason to strike the US or Israel without provocation.
It doesn't matter if Iran strikes first with or without provocation. They immediately give israel a cause for war, and the u.s. will get dragged into it. The u.s. regime has factions, some of them want a war, some of them don't.
None of them want the follow-on war with russia.
> If anything happens where it's alleged to be Iran, it will be a false flag.
If Iran doesn't attack first, yes, there is likely to be some sort of false attack blamed on them or allies of theirs.
The critical difference is those false-flag attacks leave breadcrumbs, that can, like threads, be pulled on to force the u.s. to back off sooner or later down the line. Sort of like how 9/11 was used as leverage against israel and saudi arabia in some backchannel agreements.
Good post.
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prototype 0 points 2 days ago
> The modern word for England is Lloegr in welsh. I recognized it as an earlier version.
You are more well-read than I thought.
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prototype 0 points 3 days ago*
I have no clue who Loegriaus is. Fill me in.
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prototype 0 points 3 days ago*
> what about antifa, those white useful Soro's idiots,
Antifa are a boogieman invented by the universities and the regime.
Much like the boogaloo boys, the kkk, and dozens of other front-groups run by the domestic intelligence apparatus.
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prototype 1 point 3 days ago
> If you attempt to clean up your neighborhood on your own, the zogbots kick down your door.
Thats because they are (unwitting) meat-clubs in the hands of the enemy.
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prototype 0 points 3 days ago*
What people ought to be doing is running spoiler candidates.
Will they? No. Because most people are stupid.
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prototype 0 points 5 days ago
> Well at least they made all of 157 arrests yesterday, at that break neck speed they nab a whopping 155,760 in the remainder of trumpstein's term.
Trump is hindenburg. Just enough hope while things go to shit, to soften us up ahead of 'the real deal'.
My pet theory is the intelligence junta that runs the u.s. wants to go the post-weimer route for a variety of reasons.
One to subvert the dollar so we can renounce the debt. Once the debt is out of the way, and the country has moved through, and then out of decades of demoralization, they put in another candidate vis-a-vis the actualization of the business plot, and then ramp up the (currently) incipient reindustrialization. Once remoralization is in high gear, the u.s. preps for and goes to ww3 with commiserate depopulation of the excess/unneeded population.
This pulls double-time because the hyper-form of hybrid war, carried out by foreign intelligence here (with the tacit support of the u.s. domestic regime) using dissatisfied citizen-proxies, creates the perfect excuse to pivot from finance-based economies to mass centralization to cope with growing population (which will be slowed, but not stopped), in much the same way china's form of government is more efficient (and brutal) for managing billions of people, unlike our current form of covert private-public partnership masquerading as a 'democratic republic'.
In that regard, they'll re-export a lot of problem demographics, but it will be nowhere near the numbers anyone wants.
The imports are here as warm bodies to lower wages, and boost raw birthrates ahead of a planned world war, because while winners are likely already decided, china *also* has excess dissatisfied population, and a military that wants its wars. And no side can really be seen to definitively win outright, without elimination population and wracking up enormous debt that makes it easier to control them.
The long term strategy is to delegitimize the very idea and system of regions-as-nations or independent geopolitical entities. This was always a contingency plan if mutually-reinforcing tightly-interlocking economic policies couldn't force a gradual series of mergers, but someone(s) at some time decided the current pace was too slow so they went with the war model instead.
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