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They're both true, depending on which side you're on.

It's not objective anymore, truth is a product of consensus and consensus is a purchasable commodity. Either directly or through proxies, like the media.


/v/LyingNewsMedia viewpost?postid=68387da6e924d

If you Skail at Fydiving, big Toney burp twice.


/v/VoatQuotes viewpost?postid=6837d98b25694

What's this about? I'm out of the loop.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6837513c329b0

So say there's this drug everyone needs, let's call it X.

Everyone needs it or else bad thing.

You can't really understand what X is until you take it and feel the effects. You might know that you have a problem and that people say X cures it, but you don't really know it til you take it and see what happens.

Then a bunch of sheckelgrubbers and their faggot armies start enterprises saying "come get your X here!" but instead of X they are handing out Z and the masses, having never had X yet, don't know that this ain't X, plus it kind of smooths over some of the symptoms a little bit and you're "well I guess this is what X is".

This is what people who look at obvious fake religion calling itself Christianity are doing.

They are bitching that X is garbage because they've been taking Z.

If there's a faggot or a female preacher or a rainbow flag or praying to anyone other than God Himself in Jesus name or anything you have to do to avoid hell other than trusting completely in the works and righteousness of Christ alone and not yourself or any other. That's not X, thats some form of Z.


/v/ChristianNationalism viewpost?postid=6790469354777

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/v/whatever viewpost?postid=682e9a0815437

The super not corrupt and in-on-it fbi? Or just the regular one?


/v/conspiracy viewpost?postid=682c7612a6aa3

I hate to break it to you but the jews are the ones that helped him get to argentina. he was in on it all.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67ede467c1542

He also never said to make sure your electrical wiring meets building code regulations or to floss regularly.


/v/TellTalk viewpost?postid=68121386e8481

It's not inherent it was subverted in after 1800 years of holding strong.


/v/TellTalk viewpost?postid=68121386e8481

It wasn't the first printed Bibles at all but it was a huge number of actually good bibles with a corrupt jew controlled false preachers "notes" taking up the bottom quarter of every page that the rothschild controlled oxford press mass produced and gifted to every fundamentalist bible school in the US in vast numbers that taught a bunch of bible students a bunch of zionist-friendly false doctrines that taint their understanding of scripture to this day in almost every , even fundamentalist, church in america.

And that all happened in the 1800s. So no where near the first.


/v/TellTalk viewpost?postid=68121386e8481

Modern "Christianity" as taught and practiced by 99%+ of the Churches on earth is not in agreement with the New Testament.

Biblical Christianity is not an organization, though it expects organizations to arise among it's followers, it teaches that we are our own priests and we don't need anyone but God, through faith in His Son and the guidance of his Holy Spirit, to find truth and salvation.

This limp-wristed false Christianity that teaches the one commandment of "be nice" is like a giant cult that super over-emphasizes "love they neighbor and pray for your enemies" into the WHOLE message in a super feminine way that literally emasculates it's followers. And it's so much easier to refuse to fight and blame your laziness and cowardice on a command from God, than to represent the very divisive person of Jesus of Nazareth accurately to a world that hates Him.

No, the scriptures say there is a time to hate and a time to kill, not just a time love and a time to heal. And yes the new testament agrees. With Jesus Himself not only showing an example of righteous violence but directly declaring in His own words His condemnation of people and hatred of their deeds.

Now it's true that there is a lot of tolerance taught in the Bible but it's more toward being self-sacrificing and not at all about tolerating evil like most "churches" today de facto teach. The whole first part of revelation is Jesus telling groups of believers what they're doing wrong and tolerating evil is his most prominent criticism and in one of the few rare times He actually praises something about a Church it's because of their intolerance of evil. (Rev 2:6)

So if you wonder why it keeps coming back to Jesus when you're trying to really get to the ultimate truth, but then you go look into it and all you see is fake or extremely watered down Christianity, of course it's going to look like stupid bullshit, because that's exactly what "they" set out to do, subvert it.


/v/TellTalk viewpost?postid=68121386e8481

Yeah most churches that have even the basic doctrine of the gospel right and actually spread the gospel are super brainwashed to be in love with the synagogue of satan. There's a whole backstory of how that happened that I've mentioned before on here.

Makes it really hard to find a good church because rejection of replacement theology with dispensationalism completely changes people's understanding of Christ and our position in relation to God.

For like 1800 years it was understood in virtually every religious group that called itself christian that "The True Israel" in God's eyes are those, who like the patriarch Abraham, the father of the jews, believed God and that belief was counted to him for righteousness.

It directly says so repeatedly in the text and it also says that the jews according to the flesh, meaning the blood descendants of Abraham, are are not counted as jews or the chosen or elect or the sons of Abraham (it uses several terms for the same idea of "the people of God") unless they also believe God now, which, it directly states, means believing His Son. In fact it says they are antichrist if they deny that Jesus was the messiah! These are direct statements and there are many more like them that prove it.

So now we have churches, even the ultra productive soul-winning churches that teach the true gospel of salvation by grace alone received through faith alone and not by our own works of righteousness or attempts at worthiness, who have their position in the world completely upside down because they bought into the dispensationalism that jewish publishing companies snuck into fundamentalist Bible schools.

Even the very few that have and share the true gospel AND refuse to ignore the true doctrine of replacement theology and rail against the synagogue of satan instead of worshipping it, are still run by fallible humans and you can bet that if someone is telling the truth loud enough every possible skeleton in their closet is going to get exposed to try to turn people off on them.

Case in point Steven Anderson and the NIFB churches. Doctrinally the most correct gospel-preaching churches probably left on earth but aside from all the slander and libel they endure they are also humans and we're messy creatures who have ugly things about us and "they" make that every single one of a loud public truth teller's embarrassing moments or moral failings are not just aired publicly but super hyped and dramatized so people don't listen to them.

If you want good preaching though from someone who isn't afraid to tell unpopular truths about jews, sodomites, unruly women and faggoty-ass men you're not gonna beat New IFB preachers like Steven Anderson. If you're stuck at the point where you don't think being in Christ is more important than a pure Aryan bloodline or whatever stupid shit, you won't like them cause half their pastors are hispanic but that's retarded.

And I can elaborate why, despite obvious differences in average potential and frankly innate moral tendencies, being a right-hearted christian indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God is more important than being white or european or whatever standard someone is going by, because even the worst person, if God chooses to use Him, is going to be doing more of what God wants than someone who is smarter and more empathetic by nature and is directing his efforts randomly according to his own notions of right and wrong, which only sometimes coincide entirely with God's view of things.




/v/TellTalk viewpost?postid=68121386e8481

I have, and do, most every day. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Maybe you think you found some kind of DaVinci code because "Elohim" is plural? Like what are you even talking about?

Do you assume that a being who is credited with creating time and space is limited to a state of being identical to ours?

The trinity is one of the mostly widely agreed upon doctrines in theology, even non-believing academics largely agree that the scriptures teach a single God-being that exists or, in some way we don't see in nature, is expressed in three distinct personages. Nature has no apparent examples of individual beings that exist as multiple persons so it's of course opaque but really isn't a lot going to be when you have stick figures attempting to comprehend even just the hand of the artist who drew them?

Try to picture an apple in your minds eye... easy right?

Now picture a tesseract. lol good luck.

Yeah so just cause you can't imagine a single being existing as three persons doesn't mean there are three "gods" being worshipped, Bible-believing Christians know it is beyond our ability to fully comprehend His NATURE, but we've believed His words and the testimony of men He's used as witnesses so we know his CHARACTER.

So is your argument REALLY that fundamentalist type serious bible believing christians are unwittingly actually worshipping different false God because you can't wrap your head around this infinite being defies simple labels like a man would have?

Is Adonai a different god than YHVH? Is El-Shaddai a different god than the logos? Even a very cursory understanding of the text shows that the God that walked with Peter in Gethsemane claimed to be the same God that walked with Adam in Eden.

You're probably the smartest one in your circles and used to being the one who figures things out but you're on the wrong track.

Stop your stubbornness and just trust Jesus.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6803d8926eb99

That's the most retarded take I've ever heard with zero basis in scripture or history.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6803d8926eb99

Because they aren't a "trio of jewish gods" and because it doesn't go by where you heard the truth from but whether it's actually true or not.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6803d8926eb99

People who say this kind of crap just reveal they don't know or understand much about judaism, christianity or the message of the Bible.

I'd even go so far as to say that, if you think Christianity came out of Judaism, you are utterly clueless.

God defined a religion in the first five books of the Bible (the Pentateuch aka Torah) and the Israelites as a whole basically never followed it. Virtually the entire Old Testament is a record of them literally not doing the religion He told them to. Instead they quickly formed their own religion mingling parts of what God had given through Moses with the abominable idolatry of their Canaanite neighbors and later of the cultures of their captors and occupiers, most notably the babylonians, (it is evident that the same occurred to an even greater extent under the assyrians as seen in the resultant samaritans.)

Jesus condemned their judaism in no uncertain terms, and repeatedly. People with a surface level familiarity with the text sometimes think that when Jesus said he "came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it" that implies His approval of the religion of the Jews. Quite the opposite, it was another indictment of their religion and it's inability to do perform the religion God directly gave them.

But that's just icing on the cake of all the direct statements He and major figures like John the Baptist and Paul the Apostle. made over and over, like telling them directly that their religion instead of honoring God was turning people into children of hell!

Jesus directly to their faces called them sons of Satan, not of God, and said they were not even really sons of their blood patriarch Abraham, because the sons of Abraham, in God's eyes, are those who love and trust God as Abraham did. This is super directly stated in the plain text of the new testament.

This was all common knowledge among Christians for most of two millennia until rothschilds bankrolled schofield to push darbyist dispensationalism which lead to the jewification of protestantism through basically a poison apple scam on fundamentalist Bible schools, in which the Oxford University Press "out of pure charity" began donating millions and millions of dollars worth really nice quality King James Bibles to all the actual good Bible schools, keeping them stocked year after year with free bibles where the bottom quarter of every page are Schofield's notes and explanations which are largely complete jewish subversive garbage.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6803d8926eb99

The text never directly says whether or not he actually stuck them:

John 2:15 "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables"

I imagine it like, He came at them all the righteous fury you might expect of someone who's beloved respected father was being publicly disrespected by a bunch of little shekelmeisters.

So I think He didn't have to actually strike them, just coming at them in that fury, cracking a whip and flipping over tables and they probably scattered like rats.

But again, we don't know, the text doesn't provide that level of specificity.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=6803d8926eb99

Trump is way too intertwined with and beholden to them, I think.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67fee289ece94

Did I insult your favorite painter? Well maybe I'm wrong maybe he wasn't the son of a Rothschild bastard on a mission to destroy Germany who lived well into the 1970s in Argentina after completing his task, which he completed quite well.

You know what German women love? Brown dick, and they have for at least 50 years. Yeah he did his job well.

Or did you mean Trump? Well man I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Maybe Trump isn't actually "in on it" and is just... shit man, what even is the plausible scenario where Trump isn't in on the jew world order but yet is literally doing shit to an extreme for Israel that previous presidents wouldn't have touched with a ten foot poll?

Maybe he's just scared of them and trying to care for the tree without offending the smothering vines?


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67fee289ece94

Well time will tell. It's not looking good though, some dangerous precedents being set.

Anti free speech laws because "antisemitism"?

People being sent to hellhole prisons in third party third world countries?

Commitment to help Israel complete their ethnic cleaning in Gaza?

Talk of war with Iran. Will the self-described "most pro-israel president ever" pay american lives Iran to prove his loyalty to Israel? They've been trying to get us in there since the revolution in 1979.

Yeah it's not looking good at all.








/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67fee289ece94

I couldn't agree more with both those statements.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67f6ecc185b19

As a Christian the Bible gives us an analogy of spreading truth being like planting seeds.

Often you plant seeds and you can't tell they're taking root.

Sure sometimes they sprout right up, and sometimes they never sprout at all, but a lot of times they just grow slowly, years, even decades can pass and suddenly life emerges.

People will reflexively puss back against anything that threatens to alter their internal paradigm but that doesn't necessarily mean nothing of value is being accomplished.

Don't be discouraged!


/v/TellUpgoat viewpost?postid=67fa37dcb1055

No, you were right the first time, at least for some of them, they CAN'T accept the truth. They are reprobates.



Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67f6ecc185b19

>Here's the REAL definition of insanity: "it's an inability to accept the Truth when it is presented to you, directly."

That's a really good definition and it lines up with what the Bible teaches in Romans 1:28:

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient"

This is talking about people who, because they did not give God place in their lives, He curses them to be unable to tell right from wrong and truth from lies.

He INFLICTS insanity on those who hate Him.


/v/whatever viewpost?postid=67f6ecc185b19

Hitler was allowed to escape to Argentina because he was in on the whole thing. It was his job to take Germany down.




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