As a Christian the Bible gives us an analogy of spreading truth being like planting seeds.
Often you plant seeds and you can't tell they're taking root.
Sure sometimes they sprout right up, and sometimes they never sprout at all, but a lot of times they just grow slowly, years, even decades can pass and suddenly life emerges.
People will reflexively puss back against anything that threatens to alter their internal paradigm but that doesn't necessarily mean nothing of value is being accomplished.
No, you were right the first time, at least for some of them, they CAN'T accept the truth. They are reprobates.
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
>Here's the REAL definition of insanity: "it's an inability to accept the Truth when it is presented to you, directly."
That's a really good definition and it lines up with what the Bible teaches in Romans 1:28:
"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient"
This is talking about people who, because they did not give God place in their lives, He curses them to be unable to tell right from wrong and truth from lies.
It makes it tough to find a church. I took our pastor aside, after knowing him for years. And went over the Biblical proof for replacement theology like Romans 2, like the words of Jesus and John the Baptist when they condemned them publicly and to their faces, like the two times Jesus refers to them as the synagogue of satan in Revelation.
Basically the scripture is pretty clear that... well let's see how our Lord put it...
**"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."**
We debated a bit, but he couldn't deny anything the scripture plainly says and he's pretty much not talked about Israel from the pulpit since, that I know of, and it's been a few years.
So get your list of scriptures ready, maybe add some spicy ones from (((their))) books too, and start breaking that programming!
They have and they will again, but that says nothing about whether they are also in hell/the lake of fire , other verses do say that hell is a place of fire and brimstone. For example:
Revelation 21:8
King James Version
*8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.*
>Revelation is both literally a warning of past caatvlysm on earth. And a warning of its repeat to come.
On earth.
True, but again says nothing to contradict the many places in the plain text of the scripture that talk about hell being very real and a place of fire and torment.
> The fallen angels are already here on earth with Satan.
Does someone deny this? Yet again it says nothing to indicate that hell is not a real place. Your examples have nothing to do with the topic of the reality of hell.
>For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.
Yes in the end times Satan will be cast out of heaven where he currently visits frequently in his role as "the accuser of the brethren".
>Satan rules Earth, not some post death realm.
This is also true but anyone who knows the Bible even a little bit knows that hell is never said to be ruled by satan but rather that it's a place prepared to imprison him. There is zero scripture to support the idea that satan has ever been to hell and every indication that he desperately fears the inevitable day he will be sent there.
The weird idea that satan is the ruler of hell is probably some artifact of mythology where the underworld is ruled by the god Hades(greek) or Pluto (Roman) and has no basis at all in scripture.
You gotta understand bro, it's pretty much you and cults that deny the existence of hell. Mormons, jehovah's witnesses, seventh day adventists, christian science (church of christ scientist) and many other cults all agree with you. That's a bad sign brother.
Jesus talked about hell a lot. It doesn't work how the guy you replied to seems to think but it's a very real place unless you think you know better than Jesus. Here's one example:
Revelation 14:10
King James Version
*10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:*
Hell is real, it's a place of torment and flame and it's not just "eternal separation from God" as so many "pastors" like to say. The scripture directly says it will be in the presence of the Lamb, who is Jesus, who is God.
That's not in the Bible. Suicide is a sin like any other and we all have sins on our record. The idea that God is playing some kind of game where every time you sin you have to ask for specific forgiveness or you go to hell is catholic nonsense.
Salvation from hell is not based on whether your sinned since your last confession, it's based on whether your sins are covered by the blood of Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God who died in your place.
It's an offer of forgiveness open to anyone who is willing to stop trying to earn salvation by their own righteousness and trust Christ alone and His righteousness to save them.
Romans 10:9-10
King James Version
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Cats are pretty fucking cool dudes sometimes. Like a big goofy orange cat doing stupid shit all the time is fun to have around. I had one like 30 years ago. Now I just have dogs, they're enough work and don't give you toxoplasmosis. Cats are still cool though.
Am I a pussy faggot cause I think that looks like a good idea?
People usually come out of prison worse than they went in, full of bitterness and anger that often leads to more crime.
Any chance to actually cultivate positive traits in these convicts sounds good to me, even the ones doing life without parole, cause maybe it'll make them less likely to hurt another inmate who has a chance at turning his life around someday.
Why do you argue like a jew using technicalities to sound like you're some useless kind of right but ignoring that you're the meaningful kind of wrong? When was the last time you looked over and something like this "banned" cartoon was on regular tv?
Also lots of things are banned but yet you can still get them so your premise is retarded anyway.
Go watch joe rogan so I'll understand why you have sick perverted imagery so present in your mind that you cant resist saying such foul things in front of others?
I just said I don;t think it's flat. The fact that there's even more evidence that I'm right about that says nothing at all about all the other fake shit NASA does.
1point21jiggawatts 1 point 2 months ago
As a Christian the Bible gives us an analogy of spreading truth being like planting seeds.
Often you plant seeds and you can't tell they're taking root.
Sure sometimes they sprout right up, and sometimes they never sprout at all, but a lot of times they just grow slowly, years, even decades can pass and suddenly life emerges.
People will reflexively puss back against anything that threatens to alter their internal paradigm but that doesn't necessarily mean nothing of value is being accomplished.
Don't be discouraged!
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 2 months ago
No, you were right the first time, at least for some of them, they CAN'T accept the truth. They are reprobates.
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 2 months ago
>Here's the REAL definition of insanity: "it's an inability to accept the Truth when it is presented to you, directly."
That's a really good definition and it lines up with what the Bible teaches in Romans 1:28:
"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient"
This is talking about people who, because they did not give God place in their lives, He curses them to be unable to tell right from wrong and truth from lies.
He INFLICTS insanity on those who hate Him.
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1point21jiggawatts -3 points 2 months ago*
Hitler was allowed to escape to Argentina because he was in on the whole thing. It was his job to take Germany down.
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 2 months ago
They put french fries in their "chinese food" too...
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1point21jiggawatts 5 points 3 months ago
The CIA and Mossad are kinda like conjoined twins from the getgo bro.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 3 months ago*
It makes it tough to find a church. I took our pastor aside, after knowing him for years. And went over the Biblical proof for replacement theology like Romans 2, like the words of Jesus and John the Baptist when they condemned them publicly and to their faces, like the two times Jesus refers to them as the synagogue of satan in Revelation.
Basically the scripture is pretty clear that... well let's see how our Lord put it...
**"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."**
We debated a bit, but he couldn't deny anything the scripture plainly says and he's pretty much not talked about Israel from the pulpit since, that I know of, and it's been a few years.
So get your list of scriptures ready, maybe add some spicy ones from (((their))) books too, and start breaking that programming!
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 3 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JtnUpkP0s
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 3 months ago
When you understand that Zelensky's job is to put as many white men in the meatgrinder as possible his methods make sense.
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 3 months ago
What?! Really?! It was (((them))) the whole time? Wow man thanks for letting voat know!
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1point21jiggawatts 10 points 3 months ago
Well mainly it's cause it talks like a fag and it's shit's all retarded.
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1point21jiggawatts 3 points 3 months ago
Yup been using Yandex for that very reason.
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 3 months ago
>Fire and brimstone comes to earth.
They have and they will again, but that says nothing about whether they are also in hell/the lake of fire , other verses do say that hell is a place of fire and brimstone. For example:
Revelation 21:8
King James Version
*8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.*
>Revelation is both literally a warning of past caatvlysm on earth. And a warning of its repeat to come.
On earth.
True, but again says nothing to contradict the many places in the plain text of the scripture that talk about hell being very real and a place of fire and torment.
> The fallen angels are already here on earth with Satan.
Does someone deny this? Yet again it says nothing to indicate that hell is not a real place. Your examples have nothing to do with the topic of the reality of hell.
>For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.
Yes in the end times Satan will be cast out of heaven where he currently visits frequently in his role as "the accuser of the brethren".
>Satan rules Earth, not some post death realm.
This is also true but anyone who knows the Bible even a little bit knows that hell is never said to be ruled by satan but rather that it's a place prepared to imprison him. There is zero scripture to support the idea that satan has ever been to hell and every indication that he desperately fears the inevitable day he will be sent there.
The weird idea that satan is the ruler of hell is probably some artifact of mythology where the underworld is ruled by the god Hades(greek) or Pluto (Roman) and has no basis at all in scripture.
You gotta understand bro, it's pretty much you and cults that deny the existence of hell. Mormons, jehovah's witnesses, seventh day adventists, christian science (church of christ scientist) and many other cults all agree with you. That's a bad sign brother.
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1point21jiggawatts 2 points 3 months ago
Jesus talked about hell a lot. It doesn't work how the guy you replied to seems to think but it's a very real place unless you think you know better than Jesus. Here's one example:
Revelation 14:10
King James Version
*10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:*
Hell is real, it's a place of torment and flame and it's not just "eternal separation from God" as so many "pastors" like to say. The scripture directly says it will be in the presence of the Lamb, who is Jesus, who is God.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 3 months ago
That's not in the Bible. Suicide is a sin like any other and we all have sins on our record. The idea that God is playing some kind of game where every time you sin you have to ask for specific forgiveness or you go to hell is catholic nonsense.
Salvation from hell is not based on whether your sinned since your last confession, it's based on whether your sins are covered by the blood of Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God who died in your place.
It's an offer of forgiveness open to anyone who is willing to stop trying to earn salvation by their own righteousness and trust Christ alone and His righteousness to save them.
Romans 10:9-10
King James Version
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 4 months ago
Are you really that into Trump or is just a character you're playing?
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 4 months ago
Cats are pretty fucking cool dudes sometimes. Like a big goofy orange cat doing stupid shit all the time is fun to have around. I had one like 30 years ago. Now I just have dogs, they're enough work and don't give you toxoplasmosis. Cats are still cool though.
You're probably still right though.
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1point21jiggawatts 5 points 4 months ago
I thought asians ate dogs and haitians were the ones that eat cats?
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1point21jiggawatts 23 points 4 months ago*
Am I a pussy faggot cause I think that looks like a good idea?
People usually come out of prison worse than they went in, full of bitterness and anger that often leads to more crime.
Any chance to actually cultivate positive traits in these convicts sounds good to me, even the ones doing life without parole, cause maybe it'll make them less likely to hurt another inmate who has a chance at turning his life around someday.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 5 months ago
I imagine it more like he knows what they can do to him, he's be given a healthy dose and allowed to exist again after and doesn't want to blow it.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 5 months ago
Why do you argue like a jew using technicalities to sound like you're some useless kind of right but ignoring that you're the meaningful kind of wrong? When was the last time you looked over and something like this "banned" cartoon was on regular tv?
Also lots of things are banned but yet you can still get them so your premise is retarded anyway.
This is why we can't have nice things.
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 5 months ago
Go watch joe rogan so I'll understand why you have sick perverted imagery so present in your mind that you cant resist saying such foul things in front of others?
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 5 months ago
What kind of perverted talk is this? What is wrong with your mind that it has that kind of imagery in it?
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1point21jiggawatts 0 points 5 months ago
Yeah we missed that, we caught the part where someone was saying maybe they weren't gonna keep paying money to work for free.
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1point21jiggawatts 1 point 5 months ago
I just said I don;t think it's flat. The fact that there's even more evidence that I'm right about that says nothing at all about all the other fake shit NASA does.
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