They talk about sending troops in. I don't think they've understand how the world has changed in the last 2 years with the Ukraine conflict. Troops now really make no difference. It's all about long and short distance automated destruction machines. If the US starts doing anything more than it's doing then I ran can start sending missiles at us things. The US might spend a lot of effort and money to land troops on the ground but what we have found with Ukraine is troops really don't make any difference. They might as well not be on the ground except to get killed. What it's really all about is automated drone systems of large and small varieties to control a certain battlefield area.
So even if Trump doesn't send troops in if he starts getting involved with that kind of stuff he might expect retaliation with that kind of stuff and you know it might even hit the Homeland in the US via smuggled devices or other things. We've got 20 to 30 million illegal people in our country from all countries all over the world and a lot of them hate us. So they could do to us what Israel claims they did to Iran which was preposition people and load drones with bombs that are plenty big enough to go out and wipe out a lot of serious things in the United States that we don't want to have happen.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:25:09 ago (+1/-0)
That's not true. Look at Ukraine. The front lines are changing as Russian troops, not mechanized killing machines, advance. Ukrainian strikes inside Russia do nothing to slow the advance by Russian troops.
Israel cannot topple Iran with airstrikes and drones. The US will be needed to go in and remove the leaders, just like in Iraq.
I don't know about that troops occupying land in ukraine. Yes the battlefield lines have moved. But that's only because up until this point the number of automated drones has been limited. They're about to be manufactured in the millions which means any country that has them and apparently Ukraine is putting a lot of effort into having them can put them on all kinds of long-range systems to deploy them locally and literally take out any number of troops that are entrenched in any area they want to using artificial intelligence to go after each individual human. So all the captured area that Russia now occupies with troops could potentially be pushed back 50 or 100 miles in one weekend with a huge deployment of drones. We really haven't seen the beginning of that technology there were right on the edge of it which is why deploying troops now is starting to be much less important.
I'm not sure that in the future we're not going to have huge swaths of land that are basically like the old minefields that no one can occupy because everybody argues about who controls them and two sides just continue to manufacture millions of drones and wipe out anybody who tries to walk into the area. And that's a crazy situation but I kind of feel like that's what's going to happen.
So all the captured area that Russia now occupies with troops could potentially be pushed back 50 or 100 miles in one weekend with a huge deployment of drones.
Will go nowhere. It takes 60 votes to get through the senate and a majority in the house. The coalition has neither, which is why it's even talked about in the pro Israel media. And even if the legislation were to pass, there are loopholes that allow Trump to act if Trump determines Iran is a threat to the US.
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:30:55 ago (+1/-0)
When Newsweek calls someone a "likely dove" and quotes them as saying
"The United States prefers a negotiated resolution. Time, however, is limited. If Iran refuses to abandon its nuclear weapons program, we must hold it accountable."
You know that they are full of shit.
Iran will not "abandon" their enrichment capabilities because it's the only thing stopping Israel from toppling the Iranian regieme. It's like saying "If Iran doesn't commit suicide, then we're gonna have to kill them." It's fuckin' stupid.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:21:33 ago (+1/-0)
So even if Trump doesn't send troops in if he starts getting involved with that kind of stuff he might expect retaliation with that kind of stuff and you know it might even hit the Homeland in the US via smuggled devices or other things. We've got 20 to 30 million illegal people in our country from all countries all over the world and a lot of them hate us. So they could do to us what Israel claims they did to Iran which was preposition people and load drones with bombs that are plenty big enough to go out and wipe out a lot of serious things in the United States that we don't want to have happen.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:25:09 ago (+1/-0)
Israel cannot topple Iran with airstrikes and drones. The US will be needed to go in and remove the leaders, just like in Iraq.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:49:51 ago (+0/-0)
I'm not sure that in the future we're not going to have huge swaths of land that are basically like the old minefields that no one can occupy because everybody argues about who controls them and two sides just continue to manufacture millions of drones and wipe out anybody who tries to walk into the area. And that's a crazy situation but I kind of feel like that's what's going to happen.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:54:42 ago (+0/-0)
Keep dreamin' and copin'.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 17:28:33 ago (+0/-0)
The writing was on the wall from the moment we saw the outcome of the war in nagorno karabakh.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 18:52:17 ago (+0/-0)
Gezunheit
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:21:32 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:23:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:14:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 14:51:44 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-national-security-council-iran-israel-2086671
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:30:55 ago (+1/-0)
You know that they are full of shit.
Iran will not "abandon" their enrichment capabilities because it's the only thing stopping Israel from toppling the Iranian regieme. It's like saying "If Iran doesn't commit suicide, then we're gonna have to kill them." It's fuckin' stupid.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 2 daysJun 17, 2025 14:50:05 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/politics/trump-israel-iran-ceasefire
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysJun 17, 2025 15:33:15 ago (+1/-0)
Yeah Goldstein and Silverberg.