"Nineteen of the 35 countries on the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) voted for the motion, which was backed by the US, UK, France and Germany."
So backed by nuclear armed America, nuclear armed Britain, nuclear armed France, and Germany, which hosts nuclear weapons. As usual the 'rules based international order' means 'rules' that suit the US and its allies.
Really, who upvoted this thread? Anything pro-Jewish is a sure downvote here - but of all the things to upvote Israel on we get this?!
Joe, Joe. We've never seen you so emotional! The crucial point is...the nuclear nations in question have never expressed an intention of using their weapons to wipe out their neighbours!
[ - ] beece 1 point 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:21:16 ago (+1/-0)*
Paul, do a quick search on "The Samson Option" and get back to us.
Edit to add: ""We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us."[9] And he quotes then Israeli defense minister Ariel Sharon as saying: "We are much more important than (Americans) think. We can take the Middle East with us whenever we go."[10]"
[ - ] paul_neri [op] 1 point 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:25:39 ago (+1/-0)
Phew, beece, you work a man. I'm huffing and puffing but I got it (see below).Yep, you're on the money dude: "using nuclear weapons in a retaliatory strike", Disappointed Joe let the static from his emotions interfere with his usually objective analysis.
The "Samson Option" refers to a nuclear strategy of Israel, which involves using nuclear weapons in a retaliatory strike against an aggressor if Israel faces an existential threat. This strategy is sometimes described as a "last resort" scenario where Israel would launch a massive nuclear attack in response to a large-scale invasion or destruction of the country. The name "Samson Option" is derived from the Biblical figure Samson, who famously brought down a temple on himself and his enemies.
Just the possession of nuclear weapons implies the means to end states. Iran doesn't have that capability. So any threats are hypothetical as of now.
President Loudmouth, during his first term in 2017:
In his 2017 UN address, Trump insisted that "the United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea."
The US has been threatening to nuke countries since at least the Eisenhower administration.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 3 points 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:09:43 ago (+3/-0)
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-nuclear-weapons/
"Nineteen of the 35 countries on the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) voted for the motion, which was backed by the US, UK, France and Germany."
So backed by nuclear armed America, nuclear armed Britain, nuclear armed France, and Germany, which hosts nuclear weapons. As usual the 'rules based international order' means 'rules' that suit the US and its allies.
Really, who upvoted this thread? Anything pro-Jewish is a sure downvote here - but of all the things to upvote Israel on we get this?!
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri [op] 0 points 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:19:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:21:16 ago (+1/-0)*
Edit to add:
""We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us."[9] And he quotes then Israeli defense minister Ariel Sharon as saying: "We are much more important than (Americans) think. We can take the Middle East with us whenever we go."[10]"
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri [op] 1 point 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:25:39 ago (+1/-0)
The "Samson Option" refers to a nuclear strategy of Israel, which involves using nuclear weapons in a retaliatory strike against an aggressor if Israel faces an existential threat. This strategy is sometimes described as a "last resort" scenario where Israel would launch a massive nuclear attack in response to a large-scale invasion or destruction of the country. The name "Samson Option" is derived from the Biblical figure Samson, who famously brought down a temple on himself and his enemies.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:28:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 4 daysJun 12, 2025 22:37:59 ago (+0/-0)
President Loudmouth, during his first term in 2017:
In his 2017 UN address, Trump insisted that "the United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea."
The US has been threatening to nuke countries since at least the Eisenhower administration.