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[ - ] Portmanure 1 point 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:02:07 ago (+1/-0)

I like his dog, not his ideology. Like Hemingway I love his books, I don’t like him.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:12:09 ago (+0/-0)

Socialist, hobo, self-made man that endured the Klondike and extolled Anglo-Saxon supremacy. Name a better American.

[ - ] Portmanure 2 points 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:19:15 ago (+2/-0)

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett, Andrew Jackson, Ulysses Grant, I can go on…

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:24:41 ago (+1/-1)

Washington was the biggest landowner in the country with a known distaste for those of lower classes. Strictly upper class gentry. Ditto for Jefferson.

I dunno why you people worship rich fucks that despised people like you.

Grant? LOL. That's hard to fathom even in a place like this. The guy crushed the South multiple times.

Jackson is a better pick. Like London he more approximates the common white man. But we should avoid idealizing exemplars of the status quo like generals. It is the great man fallacy common on the right.

[ - ] 2girls1cup 1 point 8 hoursJun 9, 2025 15:11:01 ago (+1/-0)

Washington was also the biggest slave owner as well at the time. He probably also owned some white slaves as well, Irish indentured servants, etc.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 6 hoursJun 9, 2025 17:06:22 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, he probably did. Irishmen sometimes came here, it just tends to get glossed over as they'd usually convert to Protestantism. And the more victim oriented historiography of liberal academics doesn't emphasize white indentured servants in all the virtue signaling over slavery.

There was always significant class warfare in Virginia (Bacon's Rebellion being the most explosive example). And obviously the place was dominated by wealthy slave owners. That West Virginia even exists today has to do really with the working class freeing themselves from Washington's class in the Piedmont and Tidewater. This is largely forgotten today because conservatives lack much in the way of explicit class consciousness, and think any desire to have it is Communism, or more retarded: 'Jewish'. This is their excuse to turn off their brains.

[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 8 hoursJun 9, 2025 15:12:32 ago (+0/-0)

At that time slave owning was cool. If tik tok existed it would have been full of slave owning videos…

[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:43:58 ago (+0/-0)

He didn’t own land because he was rich, he owned land because he had an eye for such things. Same for Jefferson, they were rich because they made rich decisions and weren’t Jews.

I don’t worship any of them. I admire them.

Grant was an American badass, don’t let your political views of him diminish him, he was a fighting general. Lincoln needed him and his ilk to win the war.

Jackson was great, but pales in comparison to the rest on my list. Lewis and Clark exceed his heroics.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 8 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:57:45 ago (+0/-0)

You DO get better marks for trackers and explorers. London just better exemplifies the average worker. He's someone whose lived experiences the average man can relate to.

Grant was a drunk that lost the white vote in 1868 even with Confederates barred from voting and at least two states excluded from the union. In other words he was leading a dictatorship. Even his generalship is controversial. I think conventional Southern scholarship would hold he was a crude brawler who took over because his predecessors were even less skilled than he was. Lee had more finesse.

Washington and Jefferson: heirs of other rich fucks. Virginia was founded by toffs, Cavaliers, that were partisans of the Stuarts in the English Civil Wars.

My shortlist would include men along the lines of gunfighters, pirates, various rebels, and other non-state actors capable of challenging the state. Who we see as heroes says a lot about how we see the world. If you see establishment figures as the best on offer you're going to be essentially establishment oriented yourself. This is something Howard Zinn did demonstrate well with his notorious history book.

[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 8 hoursJun 9, 2025 15:00:41 ago (+0/-0)

I stand by what I already said, all great men. Your attempt to Jew them down has no affect on their history making achievements.

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 6 hoursJun 9, 2025 17:41:57 ago (+0/-0)

Sam Houston, Lee Harvey Oswald,SuperMan......

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 9 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:14:09 ago (+0/-0)

Should add that the founder of OE is related to David Starr Jordan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Starr_Jordan

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 8 hoursJun 9, 2025 14:47:15 ago (+0/-0)

London's novel of a socialist revolution in the United States.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1164/1164-h/1164-h.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Heel

This novel was sold by the National Alliance in their book catalogue. William Pierce called London a National Socialist before his time but in the actual timeline this novel was admired by Trotsky and was burned as red literature in Nazi Germany.